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05:24 rockysynergy 
05:25 rockysynergy Sorry for the wrong request,
05:25 rockysynergy I mean for another chat room:-(
06:28 Awillys morning
09:13 JaXtreme hello
09:13 rockysynergy Hello.
09:53 dokma_ hi all of you guys
09:53 dokma_ and girls if any
09:55 swemark ow did you know?
09:55 swemark how*
10:51 Horttcore|de_DE lo
10:51 Horttcore|de_DE what is the best shop system for typo3 ?
10:51 Horttcore|de_DE i just found tt_products
10:54 Horttcore|de_DE hell typo3 sux :-/
10:56 just2b so dont use it
10:57 just2b and dont expect too many answers with starting flames;)
11:01 Horttcore|de_DE na one of my client really want to have it, even when he got no clue about it.
11:02 Horttcore|de_DE I think Typo3 got some really good features but overall its just a very very old cms :-/
11:02 just2b really 2 very? it gets rewritten just right now with really cool features and techniques
11:03 Horttcore|de_DE The Backend is a nightmare tbh
11:03 Horttcore|de_DE the template engine is worse
11:03 Horttcore|de_DE :-(
11:03 just2b really depends
11:04 Horttcore|de_DE yea got no problem if some likes it, but I would never ever use it again :-(
11:04 Horttcore|de_DE I just looking for a feature list of a typo3 shop
11:04 just2b yeah we got it
11:04 just2b use commerce or tt_products
11:04 Horttcore|de_DE commerce = os commerce fork?
11:04 just2b there are also other shops listet at typo3.org/extensions
11:04 just2b no
11:06 Horttcore|de_DE thx
11:06 Horttcore|de_DE will have a look at it
11:06 Horttcore|de_DE I'm trying to convience him to buy JTL Shop System
11:06 Horttcore|de_DE a really good one
11:20 maholtz_ hi
11:43 N33D is there an option to place an image in tt_news where you want? with a marker or something? i want to place an image between text, en is it possible to set the position of an image in tt_news with an extension or something?
11:49 just2b why not place the img inside the rte?
11:50 N33D in a news record?
11:50 just2b yes
11:51 N33D i dont see that option in a news record..?
11:51 just2b you use the rte, there is an img button
11:51 N33D what about scaling and "click and enlarge" ?
11:51 just2b not possible then
11:52 N33D hmm.. is there not another way, do you know the ext: RGMEDIAIMAGE
11:53 N33D then you can add video's to tt_news records, and you can specify where you want to place that video with ###NEWS_VIDEO_1### , ###NEWS_VIDEO_2### etc
11:53 N33D but i cant find it anywhere for images
11:55 just2b yeah i know that ext,it is mine
11:55 just2b you need an ext for that, correct
11:56 just2b you know the ext rgnewsimg? check out the samples
11:56 N33D iam gonna check it now!
11:57 N33D but it is your ext that rgmediaimage? it's wonderfull!
11:57 just2b thx, i am working on very cool new features!
11:57 just2b and dont forget to rate the exrt
11:58 N33D i will ... and what about rgmedialinks? it's yours too?
11:58 just2b all starting with rg or my name as author are mine
11:58 just2b all listet on my website too ^^
12:02 N33D i try'd rgmedialinks, it's cool! but when iam trying to load an video, for example youtube, sometimes i must try 3 or 4 times before the video works.., i searched on the web, but could not find that problem
12:03 just2b strange
12:04 N33D i try'd to load videos of gametrailers.com but i guess that isn't possible eh?
12:05 N33D rgnewsimg is very handy!
12:05 just2b can they be embedded?
12:06 just2b should be possible
12:06 just2b the url is e.g. http://trailers.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/5148/t_bournec_train_gp_gt_h264.mov
12:06 just2b but dont know if allowed ^^
12:07 N33D did you fin<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" id="gtembed" width="480" height="392"> <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="movie" value="">http://www.gametrailers.com/remote_wrap.php?mid=21657"/> <param name="quality" value="high" /> <embed src="htt
12:07 N33D that url is under each video
12:07 just2b ok i guess it is allowed.. take the real url
12:07 just2b as i said
12:08 N33D did you fund that url in the source?
12:08 just2b yes
12:09 N33D iam going to try now :)
12:12 N33D is it a must to add rel"mediabox" ?
12:12 just2b to open it in lightbox, sure
12:13 just2b wanna see cool new feature of rgmediaimages
12:13 N33D i just add:
12:13 N33D <p><a title="Opens external link in new window" class="external-link-new-window" href="http://trailers.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/5148/t_bournec_train_gp_gt_h264.mov" rtekeep="1">Gametrailers mov</a></p>
12:14 N33D new cool feature? allways :D
12:15 just2b http://www.rggooglemap.com/tmp/rgmwizard2.gif
12:15 N33D it doesn't work.. :( http://www.socomcommunity.nl/Movies.34.0.html ( click "Gametrailers Movie" )
12:16 just2b there is protoitype included and mootools is not
12:16 just2b also not rgmeidialinks
12:16 N33D that's like crazy :D nice feature!
12:17 N33D rgmedialink = includes in my root page, but mootools?
12:18 just2b the js it not loaded
12:19 N33D i've included: perfectlightbox, rgmedialinks, rgmediaimages ( video/mp3/media en images )
12:20 N33D maybe it is in conflict or something?
12:20 just2b configure perfectlightbox to work with mootools
12:21 N33D i did now, ( only set the javascript libary ) that's ok right?
12:24 just2b work with t3mootools, include the 2 files yourself
12:27 N33D and then it must work?
12:27 just2b should
12:29 N33D should i edit some config in t3mootools for your extensions?
12:32 N33D sorry i mean, which 2 files do i have to include ?
12:32 N33D javascript or something?
12:34 just2b TS
12:34 just2b configure t3mootools to check all mootools exrt
12:36 N33D yes i did, but when iam checking them, and click on "check" en then on "use" iam going back to the "home screen" of t3mootools and when iam going back to the t3mootools ext, they are unchecked is that normal?
12:38 just2b check them, set it to merge & use, and at bottom create the lib
12:39 N33D ok i did
12:40 N33D and now add the code that is on piont: 1.3 Configuration?
12:40 N33D if (t3lib_extMgm::isLoaded('t3mootools')) {
12:40 N33D require_once(t3lib_extMgm::extPath('t3mootools').'class.tx_t3mootools.php');
12:40 N33D }
12:40 N33D etc
12:43 N33D sorry, but dont know where and WHAT i must include ( what you just said )
12:43 N33D have the t3mootools manual in front of me but i get stuck at 1.3
12:44 N33D 1.3 is for your own ext i see..
12:44 N33D so i miss something else..
12:47 N33D am i so stupid or is there something i don;t see?
12:47 just2b dont need the phgp code
12:48 N33D this is what i did:
12:51 N33D install t3mootools -> to the panel of t3mootools -> Dropdownmenu -> process and analize t3 mootools.txt in exts -> check "perfectlightbox and media links in a lightbox" -> check -> merge and use -> then i was going to "create custom mootools" -> then i clicked -> create custom mootools libary -> then i got an popup with some info
12:52 N33D did i something wrong?
12:52 N33D having lunch now.. brb
13:00 tf hi @all. im trying something like this http://phpfi.com/312388 . but it doesnt work. someone has an idea how to give the div the width from the generated last image?
13:03 Denyerek Yo
13:03 Denyerek Anyone here used jQuery and/or MooTools ?
13:05 maholtz_ @tf: what do you want to do? create an empty image via gifbuilder?
13:09 tf maholtz: i only want the width from the empty image.
13:10 v1ncne7 test
13:13 Denjerek OMG this connection is appalling
13:14 tf maholtz_: its a menu with textlinks. when the user goes over a menuitem, the text get the css style font-weight:bold; and the problem is, that the other menuitems move to the right. because the font is becomes bigger. i thought that i could make a div around the menuitems width have a the width "width_from_title" + 10px for example. so that the other items don't move to the right when u go...
13:14 tf ...over the items. i hope u unsterstand my problem :-)
13:15 tf the image get the width from the title text
13:17 Deneyrec can anyone tell me how to effectivly search the bug repo
13:17 Deneyrec I for the life of me can't seem to do it
13:18 Ruudi greetings
13:18 N33D just2b: ?
13:19 Ruudi anyone knows what should I enable in typo 4.2 to allow BE search find things for non admin users?
13:19 Ruudi there are search forms but no content found on any word, works well for admin user
13:20 N33D dunno.. srry
13:31 just2b N33D include in TS the js of rgmedialinks
13:31 N33D where can i find it?
13:31 N33D the javascript?
13:31 just2b rtm
13:32 N33D ok i'll check
13:33 N33D only this one?
13:33 N33D page.includeJS.file1 = EXT:rgmedialinks/res/mootools.js
13:33 N33D page.includeJS.file2 = EXT:rgmedialinks/res/mediabox.js
13:33 N33D page.includeCSS.file1 = EXT:rgmedialinks/res/mediabox.css
13:33 just2b yes
13:33 tf can i get the length of a menuitem in textmenu?
13:36 just2b with a stdtWrap userfunc I guess so
13:40 N33D yeah, thanks man! i works!! check the link if you like to
13:40 N33D http://www.socomcommunity.nl/Movies.34.0.html
13:40 N33D and the movie from that site works too :D
13:40 N33D is that an HD movie that you gave me? "_" ( that link )
13:42 N33D ya it is.. wonderfull :)
13:44 N33D btw, just curious.. i don't know the typo3 scene yet, i know it's open srouce but you are making extenstion right? for fun, hobby or job ? like i said, just curious :)
13:48 Jigal Hi all, long time no see!
13:49 Jigal Does anybody know when and why the simlink t3lib/gfx -> typo3/gfx was removed from the installation?
13:51 just2b n33d, the most or out of fun, so if you wanna donate, i am happy.. but i am also doing it in a job
13:51 just2b jigal, this was becaushe the dir moved IMO with 4.0
13:53 kreegee the login picture in 4.2final is kinda disturbing >_>
13:54 N33D haha
13:54 just2b N33D ?
13:54 just2b kreegee i use better ones ;9
13:54 kreegee prefered the canoo guy
13:54 just2b i prefer mines http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/chloginskin.html > especially the right one
13:55 Jigal just2b: typo3/gfx still exists...
13:55 just2b hm maybe t3lib was moved.. damn it i dont know ;)
13:55 kreegee just2b: hehe
13:56 N33D ye.. it's clear now, and you made a bunch of great extensions!
13:56 N33D you're BE logins are cool :)
13:57 just2b thx ;)
14:00 JaXtreme especially the right one
14:01 just2b dont know why everbody says that ^^
14:01 just2b just the girls in my company have been kind of shocked...^^
14:05 N33D haha lol
14:05 backAgain just2b...in your latest version of the rggooglmaps it looks like the selection of markers behaves strange, can that be ? deselecting all cats shows just every marker...so that is: all categories rather than none...is that the desired behaviour ?
14:06 just2b i still got some troubles with it, still should work but isnt that easiuer as in previous versions
14:06 maholtz_ @tf:is there no way to solve that issue via css?
14:06 backAgain well, at least here it isnt working..i get this behaviour
14:08 backAgain i was also playing with the selected/available category stuff in your BEflexform to see if this is changing something, but it is not
14:16 just2b N33D it looks quite cool ^^
14:16 N33D the video?
14:17 just2b yeah
14:17 just2b also rated the ext in ter?`
14:17 just2b yeah thx ;)
14:17 N33D iam very happy with it..! i rated rgmediaimages today, but now i will rate this one too!
14:18 just2b as you know it is the easiest thing you can do for a dev ;)
14:20 N33D ok, good to know.. i rated it :)
14:20 N33D btw, have you ever used tx_comments?
14:21 just2b no
14:21 N33D mm ok :)
14:24 N33D i asked my question in the mailinglist, but no response after 24hours, ( i havn't asked thing before, so i don't know when an answer mostly is given? couple of days or something?
14:29 Jigal just2b: A bit slow, but anyway: can't see why the girls are shocked by that login skin. I only show fabric and plain skin; suitable for all ages I would think.
14:32 just2b hehe lol yeah
14:35 Jigal just2b: my boss liked rgformvalidator btw. Haven't had the time to see if it could be used with every form type we use, but it would nice to have a consistent way of displaying error messages with forms (e.g. compare mailform, fe_user_register, chc_forum, etc.)
14:35 just2b jigal yeah this should be possible
14:35 just2b as long as you can set classes to the fields
14:36 Jigal rgformvalidator is client side validation, isn't it?
14:36 just2b yes
14:37 just2b but IMO it is enough because an email like (obscured mail address) will go through server side too..
14:37 just2b but you can still use serverside too...
14:37 Jigal well, it would reduce the number of server side errors dramatically and it can be set up to display nice explanations of the fields.
14:38 just2b yep
14:38 Jigal e-mail validation is almost always very crummy.
14:38 just2b and the rest is the same.. what do you do with the birthday 11-11-1970...
14:39 just2b will go through server and client side
14:39 just2b and nobody can surf today without js
14:39 Jigal some even don't accept valid addresses: (obscured mail address) is sometimes rejected, as is (obscured mail address)
14:40 just2b yeah you need to begin validating somehwere ;)
14:40 Jigal for birthdays you can use a popup calendar
14:44 Jigal hmm.. it seems that v.4.x does not include t3lib/gfx anymore. I wonder why...
14:44 kreegee does it matter?
14:44 kreegee hm
14:44 kreegee i have a fce problem, i can't only map the name-attribute
14:44 kreegee tv replaces the href
14:44 kreegee and forgets all other attributes in the template
14:45 Jigal yes, I have to use an extension that uses system images, but has the t3lib/gfx path hardcoded in it. Don't want to modify the extension code if I can avoid it...
14:46 kreegee ok
14:46 Jigal sorry, still don't know tv :-(
14:46 just2b neither me ;))
14:46 snoy can anyone help me with the rgsmothgallery extension?
14:46 Jigal LOL
14:48 snoy i included it on two pages but they didnt work :-(
14:49 void snoy: clear caches, check rights, include static templates, read manual, open eyes =) did you do all that? =)
14:50 snoy void - check rights ?
14:50 Denyerek So sorry about the disconnect/reconnects here guys
14:50 Denyerek The connection in this office is shocking.
14:50 void snoy: hm.. maybe not in your case
14:51 void hi Denyere[ck]{1}
14:51 snoy i did everything. i only get the black loading screen..
14:51 kreegee restarted with the wizard, fixed now..
14:51 kreegee .must have fucked up the TO xml
14:52 void snoy: check rights on typo3temp folder..
14:53 void snoy: also, do you have any js-errors?
14:53 snoy void: i check it one moment
14:55 snoy void: no errors...http://dms-arts.com/content/index.php?id=53
14:58 void snoy: don't know. maybe you did not setup gallery properly... sorry, never used that extension
14:59 snoy void: no problem...
15:18 kreegee somebody using jquery_thickbox here?
15:18 kreegee the versioning is really strange
15:18 kreegee i wonder how and if the ext updater can handle that
15:21 GeorgesAbitbol hi all
15:21 GeorgesAbitbol How could I access base url -- given in typoscript -- in one of my extension ?
15:23 void GeorgesAbitbol: $GLOBALS['TSFE']->template->config['config.]['baseURL']
15:23 void try that
15:23 GeorgesAbitbol voice: thx void. I'll try
15:54 Deneyrec Run out of names
16:05 N33D a company wants to have a random quote on their site. how do i make random content ? i just searched for extensions but could'nt find my wishes..
16:10 timdeluxe N33D: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/jm_quote/0.2.0/ ?
16:12 N33D allready try'd? because Beta.. don't wanna mess up my DB ;)
16:12 dokma N33D: backup? dev server?
16:14 N33D ya, local here. we have just a new system, so don't know yet how this system works. and our systemmanager is in a conversation "_"
16:17 maholtz_ @N33D: afaik it should with CONTENT and SQL RAND - if you are familiar with typoscript you will need no extension
16:19 mac3 you could call a php userfunc from within ts which returns a random quote
16:19 mac3 but dont ask me how
16:19 N33D iam familair with the TS that i've seen and edit some, but i just started ( 3 months ago with typo3 ) but i think my knowlodge is growing very well ;)
16:19 mac3 i would prefer the way of writing an extension
16:20 selim hi, my typo3 can't find the ImageMagick files any idea why that could be in my php.ini the safe_mode_exec_dir is correct directing to the /usr/bin/ where the files are and the files are owned by the apache user but still typo can't find anything
16:26 tPl0ch anybody worked with wa_printlinkpage?
16:39 timdeluxe selim: what about openbasedir?
16:40 Phlogi that damn AMENU of tt_news drives me crazy, it just does not work!
16:41 dokma Phlogi: how's that?
16:41 Phlogi dokma: hey dokma!
16:41 Phlogi you really need to help me :D
16:41 dokma hey :)
16:41 dokma hehe
16:41 dokma no prob
16:41 Phlogi You can select archive categorys there... i.e. months :)
16:41 dokma I just need to go buy macaroni for lunch
16:41 Denyerek Did you use the special DOKMA searchlight?
16:41 dokma will be back very soon
16:41 Denyerek And shine it on the clouds in the appropriate manner?
16:42 Phlogi its working here on the main part: http://jungwacht.jublawil.ch/jw/index.php?id=131
16:42 dokma will be back in 10 mins
16:42 Phlogi BUT if I insert the same plugin with same settings in left content it does not work!
16:47 selim timdeluxe: thank you for your answer, I've solved the problem, but strangely I had to change the owner of the ImageMagick binaries for that, does typo3 need write access to that file (I can't imagine that)
16:47 Denyerek it does not.
16:47 Denyerek but depending on your server config, the files geenrated by imagick might be owned by the imagick owner, rather than the owner of the program that called the imagick binary
16:48 Denyerek so if your imagick binary didn't have write perms to the target folder, you could have run into trouble,]
16:48 Denyerek (Sorry to cut in at the end there with a random explaination!)
16:48 selim Denyerek: but why did it work only after changing the owner, it was owned by root and had the permission 755
16:49 Denyerek no idea.
16:49 Denyerek Just throwin it out there.
16:49 Denyerek ;)
16:49 N33D timdeluxe: did you try'd JM QUOTE? whem i create a Quotation record, it will nog be showed
16:51 N33D mm never mind, Starting piont did not work, it must be written with the constant editor
16:52 Phlogi ah damn found it out :D
16:56 dokma here I am
16:56 dokma Phlogi: what was it?
16:56 maholtz__ @N33D: why do you not use TypoScript?
16:56 Phlogi datetimeDaysToArchive was set to 0.... but that worked before, long time without problems...
16:57 Phlogi Actually I want to have every news item in the archive
16:57 Phlogi but hey now latest does not work any longer...
16:57 N33D @maholtz, dunno? is that possible?
16:57 dokma where is latest
16:57 dokma lower part is latest?
16:58 Phlogi ok that was a template problem
16:59 maholtz__ select.orderBy = rand()
17:02 dokma hehehe
17:02 dokma it usually gets resolved when you sleep it over
17:02 Phlogi ok this is my next problem: http://pastebin.ca/997164 I want to mak that tslib_pibase Object to fetch a language in an extension, without extending the whole class. But as soon as I do loadLL I get a weird error:
17:02 Phlogi #
17:02 Phlogi TYPO3 Fatal Error: Extension key "" was NOT loaded! (t3lib_extMgm::extPath)
17:02 dokma I had the strangest issue with my clock on my Debian
17:02 Phlogi dokma: thats true :)
17:02 dokma lost like 5 hours trying to fix it
17:02 Phlogi I lost like 3h on that tt_news crap
17:02 dokma and it was resolved by a simple dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
17:03 Phlogi but hey the new backend is faster so... you can save some time
17:03 dokma hehe
17:03 Phlogi and using minefield saves you again some time because its so much faster here
17:03 dokma I still haven't made the switch
17:03 Phlogi but anyone has an idea about my problem?
17:03 dokma duh, sounds pretty stupid
17:04 dokma empty ext key
17:04 dokma that's on 4.2.0 ?
17:15 N33D that was it for this week, it's weeeekend, see ya next week. happy weekend everybody :)
17:30 snoy Iam new to Templavoila. I try to admit my be-users the possibility to update content and an image (one image per page). The content element works, but how must i configure the Editing Type (Image field) ?
17:36 snoy I choose the Editing Type "Image field", but in the backend i can't add an image. What did i forget ?
17:42 ommya Hello all
17:43 ommya Is it possible to give link in local language?
17:44 tPl0ch http://phpfi.com/312452
17:45 tPl0ch The comment in this example holds my question, so if anybody had some to look over it, it would be great
17:45 tPl0ch + time
17:47 voidus_ ommya: what do you mean?
17:47 voidus_ tPl0ch: yes..
17:47 ommya I want to replace a marker using different languages the text which I want to replace has link in it
17:49 tPl0ch voidus_: but somehow the link is not inserted
17:50 voidus_ ommya: if you set config.linkVars, the correct links should be generated automatically
17:51 ommya link I want to keep is common but the text other than link should get replaced
17:52 ommya by language file
17:53 ommya I wanted to do this without using two markers with a single marker otherwise I think it was easy
17:56 tPl0ch voidus_: do I have to get the field first via select?
18:10 snoy Iam new to Templavoila. I try to admit my be-users the possibility to update content and an image (one image per page). The content element works, but how must i configure the Editing Type (Image field) ?
18:10 snoy can anyone give me a small tip ?
22:31 titii Hi there...
22:31 titii void, ries, anybody.. good evening
22:32 titii Hey in a BE in edit page properties I set page as Advanced. there are the Keywords and Description of a page. But I can't see it on a FE.. Hmmm What should be wrong? Thank you
22:33 ries hey titii I never used FE editing
22:33 titii ries FE editing?
22:34 void titii: if you want to see them in meta tags, you need to write some TS
22:35 ries titii: are you not talking about that?
22:35 titii void nice, can you help me, what TS? Or some page? I am googling but I can't find that
22:36 titii ries hmmm I dont think so ries my friend :) I am talking about META tags the keywords and description :)
22:36 ries you didn't say META :D
22:36 ries I agree with void....
22:37 titii ries ooh sorry... I agree also, but I am looking for that, but I cant find that... hmmm, where it is?
22:38 ries titii: I think google has some entries...
22:38 ries I don't have a sample at hand
22:38 titii ouuu shit... what about void, where are you?
22:40 void titii: read tsref, PAGE->META section, or use metatags extension
22:41 titii void ok but it is funny it is in a BE as default, but it didnt work instantly.
22:42 void titii: yeah.. but that's usual for typo3
22:43 titii void anything :)
22:44 titii ok I found it. nice
22:50 Denyerec blah
22:50 Denyerec Vegas2 just crashed
22:50 Denyerec I suppose it was a blessing, I was just about to get nailled.
23:10 ckoehler traded in vegas 2 for cod4
23:10 ckoehler :)
23:10 ckoehler v2 was fun, but i like cod4 better
23:11 ckoehler more detailed environments, mp is more fun
23:11 ckoehler v2 had PEC which was awesome, and you got exp everywhere
23:11 Denyerec PEC ?
23:11 ckoehler persistent something character
23:11 Denyerec Oh, yah.
23:11 ckoehler use one char in sp, mp, etc
23:12 ckoehler ps3 or 360?
23:12 Denyerec It's fun. Bit simplistic, but what can you expect from a console game.
23:12 Denyerec PC.
23:12 Denyerec Can't stand console FPs games.
23:12 Denyerec They all reek of shit.
23:12 ckoehler it's actually quite fun
23:12 ckoehler i used to agree
23:12 ckoehler but not anymore
23:12 Denyerec More fun on a PC, I can guarantee it.
23:12 ckoehler it's a lot of fun
23:12 ckoehler yeah maybe
23:12 ckoehler but i can't afford getting a new pc every year
23:12 Denyerec don't get me wrong, if the Xbox had mouse&keyboard, I'd own one.
23:12 ckoehler i think you can get it for ps3
23:12 ckoehler bluetooth
23:12 Denyerec but I refuse to play FPS with a gamepad.
23:13 Denyerec PS3 == Expensive Griddle.
23:13 ckoehler haha
23:13 ckoehler and the best console + bluray player
23:13 Denyerec And as my PC is more than grunty enough to match, then no need.
23:13 ckoehler definitely more reliable than 360
23:13 Denyerec I think nitroglycerin is more reliable than a 360
23:13 Denyerec "Ohh look, it melted..."
23:13 Denyerec Mate of mine is on his 3rd.
23:14 ckoehler yeah :)
23:14 ckoehler unfortunate
23:15 ckoehler and ps3 is getting there
23:15 ckoehler they are getting better with online games
23:15 ckoehler and games are starting to look good
23:15 Denyerec Aye, it's one hell of a learning curve.
23:15 ckoehler though that's the devs' fault mostly
23:15 Denyerec I know a guy who works on PS3 titles.
23:15 Denyerec He is not.... very enthusiastic about it.
23:15 Denyerec The majority of his cussing goes toward the bluray driev, which is just insanely slow.
23:15 ckoehler probably because it'
23:15 ckoehler it's different
23:16 ckoehler :)
23:16 Denyerec Yeah there's a big tooling problem also.
23:16 Denyerec Great if you're a physicist.
23:16 Denyerec Not so great if you're a game programmer.
23:16 ckoehler don't know :) people do it, so it's possible
23:17 Denyerec FPS and RTS games should be banned from consoles :)
23:17 ckoehler i wish there were rts games
23:17 Denyerec You know the xbox has no mouse support?
23:17 ckoehler more rts games
23:17 Denyerec even tho its controllers are usb
23:17 ckoehler yeah it's a pain
23:18 Denyerec there's physically no support for it. Utterly insane,
23:18 ckoehler i think you may can use those for ps3
23:18 ckoehler but not sure
23:18 Denyerec Yes you can
23:18 Denyerec there's a keyboard too
23:18 ckoehler thought so
23:18 ckoehler was really looking forward to starcraft 2
23:18 ckoehler will see if my next mac will be able to handle it
23:19 Denyerec 8800GTS 640 here.
23:19 Denyerec handles any console port easily
23:19 Denyerec chugged a bit with Crysis in higher resolutions, but was ok at 1440x900
23:20 Denyerec The graphics and environmental effects in that game were simply incredible.
23:20 Denyerec Still not running on an XBox IIRC.
23:21 ckoehler yeah it looks nice
23:21 ckoehler farcry2 looks pretty nice too
23:21 ckoehler and heading for ps3
23:21 Denyerec FC2 has the advantage of being a non-generic engine.
23:22 Denyerec I think it's going to stomp Crysis in more ways than one.
23:22 Denyerec As Crysis was really more about the engine, however... they were slightly too far ahead of their time
23:22 ckoehler that's what i heard
23:22 ckoehler crysis was more a tech demo than a game
23:22 ckoehler not saying it's not fun
23:22 ckoehler but the focus was clearly not on gameplay and story
23:22 Denyerec The gameplay was OK, but the story was bull
23:23 Denyerec The jungle sections were fabulous
23:23 Denyerec then it went shitty with the aliens. Again. Just like Farcry... and they promised not to pull the crap twice too!
23:23 ckoehler :) we'll see about farcry 2
23:24 ckoehler was a nice interview on threespeech
23:24 ckoehler with the devs
23:51 brain-xy hello all :)

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