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01:04 Denyerec ries, void ?
01:04 Denyerec did you see Axel's post to the 5.0 mailling list?
01:04 Denyerec about his performance increase?
01:05 void Denyerec: hm..? where?
01:05 Denyerec 5.0 core mailling list
01:05 Denyerec I can pastecode if you lie
01:05 Denyerec like
01:05 void i mean, give the time
01:05 Denyerec http://www.paste2.org/p/23683
01:06 Denyerec easier for you to read it
01:07 void read
01:07 void can you give a time when that mail was sent?
01:08 void Denyerec:
01:10 Denyerec Uhm
01:10 Denyerec 24 April 2008 12:22:06
01:13 void i see no such message...
01:17 Denyerec Maybe my timestam is wrong
01:17 Denyerec [TYPO3-team-core-v5] hugh performance lack through massive file inclusion (500%)
01:20 dokma guys anyone got idea what's the purpose of doc/wizard_form.* files ??
01:20 void Denyerec: ah, core... was not subscribed on that ML
01:20 void dokma: no, not really
01:21 dokma ok, will try to find out if anything refers to them
01:22 dokma kickstarter is referring to them a lot
01:22 dokma seems like I can safely delete them
01:22 dokma I'll rename for start
01:24 dokma any of you guys ever needed an extension to clone live TYPO3 installations ?
01:24 Denyerec it's not usually too tricky
01:24 void dokma: I always delete that files without any damage
01:24 Denyerec but a single-file single-click redeployment feature would be nice
01:25 Denyerec be useful for backups too
01:25 dokma I just wrote a small ext to do that
01:25 dokma it does some transformations too
01:25 dokma such as editing localconf.php
01:25 dokma to setup the database
01:25 dokma does a lot of sanity checks aswell
01:25 dokma such as not allowing to set 2 sites with same database
01:26 dokma that one took a day of my work recently
01:26 dokma void: tx for the wizard_form.* info
01:26 dokma trying to clean up the ext
01:51 ries Denyerec: Nope, didn't see that post
01:58 mac3 hi
01:58 mac3 is there a good tutorial about backend module programming?
02:28 PaulPalimm first of all ... hallo to all the people here ... i am not sure if this is the right place to ask for help but i hope so ... if anyone feels like wanting to answer please do :o) i got a problem with typo3 and fe editing ... i activated the admin panel and it appeared and there i also activated the display edit symbols option but they don't show up ... so ... no small pencils next to my text entries ... what may be the problem?
03:06 PaulPalimm first of all ... hallo to all the people here ... i am not sure if this is the right place to ask for help but i hope so ... if anyone feels like wanting to answer please do :o) i got a problem with typo3 and fe editing ... i activated the admin panel and it appeared and there i also activated the display edit symbols option but they don't show up ... so ... no small pencils next to my text entries ... what may be the problem?
03:56 ries hey PaulPalimm come back in about 4-6 hours, then europe is online
04:24 chefan PaulPalimm: did you log out of the backend?
08:13 koomi moin
09:07 JaXtreme hi
09:09 FloLeBlanc hi all
09:12 N33D hi
09:13 FloLeBlanc oh.. mm_forum 0.1.6 is released *happy*
09:13 N33D really? much new features?
09:15 FloLeBlanc many fixes
09:16 Awillys morning
09:16 N33D morning
09:17 FloLeBlanc hi
09:19 N33D FloLeBlanc: i've made many changes on icons and structure ( deleted the tables in many templates and made divs of it. ) is that gone if i update mm_forum?
09:19 nolis_OSX_2 Hi guys anybody knows a german channel für Typo3 ?
09:19 FloLeBlanc nolis: you can check out the board at typo3.net
09:20 FloLeBlanc n33d: if they are in your fileadmin/template folder (offered since 0.1.5) they should remain untouched (apart from the icons, you'll have to retemplate them)
09:20 nolis_OSX_2 thanks, I'm trying hard but I'm nut sucsessfull there
09:20 nolis_OSX_2 does anyone have expirience with timtab ?
09:20 N33D ok, so i must backup my icons. and oke, my template is in fileadmin/ext/mm_forum/tmpl
09:21 FloLeBlanc n33d: that *should* work, backup the whole extension dir too to make sure would be good I guess
09:21 FloLeBlanc and n33d: you'll really have to REDO the icons I fear :)
09:22 N33D upload them again you mean?
09:22 FloLeBlanc (check out the changes list, they are now built via TS, I didn't install 0.1.6 myself yet but I guess it generates the icons out of parts now. (f.e: hot topic + closed icon = hot topic closed)
09:22 N33D or are they renamed?
09:22 FloLeBlanc the whole process of building them is new.. there is an option to use "the old way" from what I could learn from typo3.net, but I didn't have the time to try any of this yet
09:26 N33D but i kept the standard names of the icons.. so i hope they did so ;)
09:44 nolis_OSX_2 I have timtab running but no content it shows me just the ###POSTS_LIST### can anyone help me out
09:44 N33D hmm srry no experience with timtab
09:46 nolis_OSX_2 or maybe there is a other extension für blogs... ?
09:46 N33D not that i know....
09:48 Fanty morning
09:48 Fanty Anyway to easily get templavoila to remove all HTML comments from templates?
09:49 FloLeBlanc nolis: sorry no idea what timetab even is :)
09:50 nolis_OSX_2 timtab is a blog extension für typo3
10:04 N33D somebody has the extension "comments" installed?
10:08 PaulPalimm first of all ... hallo to all the people here ... i am not sure if this is the right place to ask for help but i hope so ... if anyone feels like wanting to answer please do :o) i got a problem with typo3 and fe editing ... i activated the admin panel and it appeared and there i also activated the display edit symbols option but they don't show up ... so ... no small pencils next to my text entries ... what may be the problem?
10:09 N33D never worked with FE editting.. srry
10:09 PaulPalimm np thx anyway
10:29 FloLeBlanc paul: try to use the "view" icon on the left and see if the pencil is available there
10:29 FloLeBlanc (when logged in the backend)
10:43 FloLeBlanc hi dokma, hi koomi
10:47 dokma hello there :)
10:48 N33D anybody experience with the ext: comments ?
10:48 N33D i have a problem with simulate static documents -> comments -> tt_news ( singleview )
10:49 FloLeBlanc to whom it may concern: I just updated to mm_forum 0.1.6 and apart from the images (new generation , have to check that), the template and formatting, threads, pn's are all still intact and present. (got the latest tar.gz from SVN and overwrote the mm_forum extension dir)
10:50 N33D ok, so nothing to worry when updating.. except for the images
10:50 FloLeBlanc n33d: seems so, will start converting the icons now :)
10:51 N33D you just overwriting your DIR? and how to updating the database then?
10:54 FloLeBlanc klick on "extensions" - "mm_forum" - "make updates"
10:55 JaXtreme is there another way to implement own conditions than this way? http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_ts/4.1.0/view/1/4/#id3527051
10:55 N33D oh, just like that way
10:57 koomi hey FloLeBlanc
10:58 swemark Anyone have experience with lighttpd + typo3?
11:12 dokma hey Phlogster
11:29 swemark Ok stupid question. where do i find css_styled_content?
11:29 swemark its not showing up in template
11:30 N33D not in your root template?
11:31 swemark exactly
11:31 swemark its not showing up
11:31 N33D that's weird..
11:31 swemark indeed
11:31 N33D what source?
11:31 swemark tried reinstalling templavoila
11:31 swemark 4.2.0
11:31 FloLeBlanc did you check the extension list if it is installed?
11:31 swemark its isnt
11:31 swemark -s
11:32 FloLeBlanc how should it show up in the template then?
11:32 swemark how am i supposed to install it?
11:32 N33D install it then, search in extensions for: css_styled_content
11:32 swemark thats the thing, it isnt in the repositoryu
11:32 swemark atleast not mine
11:32 N33D oh ic
11:33 JaXtreme i guess its a system extension
11:33 FloLeBlanc did you mark "display shy extensions" ?
11:33 FloLeBlanc hmm just checked - should be visible anyway
11:34 N33D i can't find it too
11:34 FloLeBlanc but you are correct I also can't find it in the rep.. perhaps it became obsolete or integrated?
11:35 swemark FloLeBlanc: yeah i marked it
11:35 N33D try to find the t3x file?
11:35 swemark i was thinking integrated in templavoila
11:38 swemark i have the t3x altough i figured if i had problem with it then it'd be worse for a beginner
11:39 tPl0ch Hello, if I want to use the search with the crawler extension, where do I have to put the crawler configuration dataset?
11:52 pulponair is there a way to disable all rte processing on a certain "richtext" field? via tsconfig or something?
12:16 PaulPalimm using the view function in the backend, there's no pencil symbol as well
12:16 PaulPalimm and it's weird that the admin panel is shown between the headline and the text of the first entry
12:16 PaulPalimm instead of at the end of page
12:17 PaulPalimm i got no clue where to search for the error
12:17 PaulPalimm any further idea floleblanc? anyone else? would be great ...
12:32 PaulPalimm first of all ... hallo to all the people here ... i am not sure if this is the right place to ask for help but i hope so ... if anyone feels like wanting to answer please do :o) i got a problem with typo3 and fe editing ... i activated the admin panel and it appeared and there i also activated the display edit symbols option but they don't show up ... so ... no small pencils next to my text entries ... what may be the problem?
12:33 nolis_OSX_2 does anyone have expirience with timtab ?
12:36 FloLeBlanc paul: sorry had lunch :), hmm did you check the template analyzer if you have any TS errors?
12:37 FloLeBlanc hmm now that I check - I haven't got any edit pencils either, but to be honest I never bothered to be editing in the FE :)
12:38 FloLeBlanc paul => http://typo3.org/documentation/tips-tricks/frontend-editing/ did you check out this link yet?
12:38 FloLeBlanc also check the warnings hint at the bottom of the page
12:41 FloLeBlanc hmm does anyone comprehend how the buttons in mm_forum 0.1.6 now work? I'm puzzled :)
12:42 FloLeBlanc it seems to me that they always implement new ways to display the buttons without ever removing the old ways
12:44 PaulPalimm thanks for your help flo, i will check out the page you mentioned
12:44 PaulPalimm oh yes, i checked it out already, but there they just talk about a well running system ;)
12:47 FloLeBlanc and you are sure you checked "display edit icons" in the admin panel checkbox? :)
12:49 Denyerec http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/04/Macbook%20Ballmer%20GI.jpg
12:49 FloLeBlanc denyerec: well there is windows for mac isn't there? :)
12:49 Denyerec Hehe
12:50 Denyerec Though you'd have to be insane to use it
12:50 PaulPalimm i am :)
12:50 PaulPalimm i don't know how many times i checked and unchecked it :)
12:50 PaulPalimm guess i should go out for a sun bath :-/
12:51 FloLeBlanc paul: hehe
12:51 FloLeBlanc paul: sorry then I'm out of ideas atm
12:51 nublaii on tt_news, when you configure the plugin to NOT show news based on a category selection, the query it performs is and AND... any way of changing that to an OR with TS?
12:51 PaulPalimm n
12:51 PaulPalimm p
12:52 FloLeBlanc nublaii: yes, just use the other option in the pulldown menu (OR) :)
12:53 FloLeBlanc (that's not with TS though)
12:53 FloLeBlanc I'm pretty sure you can overwrite the category mode via TS though
12:54 nublaii :( seems like I'm using an old version of tt_news... I don't see that option...
12:54 FloLeBlanc I use version 2.4.0 currently
12:55 FloLeBlanc (if that is of help)
12:55 nublaii checking...
12:55 nublaii 2.2.24 darn it...
12:55 FloLeBlanc wel if you didn't do custom code hacking an update should be no problem :)
12:56 nublaii I have to upgrade the whole site to a 4.* version, but since I didn't actually coded this one I need to make sure there is no custom code ;)
12:56 nublaii well... you just read my mind there ,)
12:56 nublaii I inherited the site actually
12:56 nublaii so... big pain ;)
12:56 FloLeBlanc hehe
12:56 FloLeBlanc you can do it! *chants for nublaii*
12:57 nublaii hehehe... there's something missing on 4.2 that I really like about 'old' versions
12:57 nublaii the icon menubar on top
12:58 nublaii I can't see it anywhere on 4.2...
13:02 FloLeBlanc the icon menubar is an own extension typo3 dev tools I think
13:03 FloLeBlanc hmm no I have textlinks
13:03 FloLeBlanc don't konw which one you mean then :)
13:04 nublaii on personal user setup
13:04 nublaii navigation mode: Icons in top frame
13:28 martijn can anyone help me with a question about the smarty extension?
13:32 martijn is it only possible to use smarty in combination with self made plugins, or can you use smarty directly in typoscript and assign values to the fields?
13:55 martijn and i can't seem to add "Smarty Demo" to a page after installing the extension
14:02 andi_ hi there! i'm looking for a hint.. i want to display a section index on a page (using TV) so i just added a new element on the page, set it to "menu/sitemap" and chose "section index". nothing more. i have 3 more elements on the page (same column) - all with headlines (text elements) - but none of the is shown in the section index - it's just empty.. i have no idea what i'm doing wrong. is there something special to set to get this
14:02 andi_ section index working?
14:06 martijn guess no one used smarty in typo3...
14:22 jananne I got a quite strange problem. I'm using the PNGFix extension for the website: http://www.l-orex.nl/. But when i'm looking at it from IE my 'search button images' disappears. And when i'm looking at it with FF my 'line images' beneath the menu items disappear.
15:02 PaulPalimm hello everybody,
15:02 PaulPalimm thanks for your help already in advance! i got a typo3 managed website
15:02 PaulPalimm based on frames and i want to use fe editing. i activated the admin
15:02 PaulPalimm panel by adding the following typoscript code to the setup section of
15:02 PaulPalimm the root template:
15:02 PaulPalimm sas_cont.config.admPanel = 1
15:02 PaulPalimm sas_cont.config.admPanel {
15:02 PaulPalimm enable.edit = 1
15:02 PaulPalimm module.edit.forceNoPopup = 0
15:02 PaulPalimm module.edit.forceDisplayFieldIcons = 1
15:02 PaulPalimm module.edit.displayIcons = 0
15:03 PaulPalimm module.edit.forceDisplayIcons = 1
15:03 PaulPalimm hide = 1
15:03 PaulPalimm }
15:03 PaulPalimm sas_cont is the content frame of the framework. the admin panel appears
15:03 PaulPalimm as it should (even though it's not shown at the end of the page but
15:03 PaulPalimm between the headline and the text block of the first entry) but the
15:03 PaulPalimm small pencils, the editing symbols, don't appear. the backend user is
15:03 PaulPalimm logged in and as (s)he's the admin should have editing rights already.
15:03 PaulPalimm display edit icons option is checked in the admin panel.
15:03 PaulPalimm i really have no clue what might be the problem. as i said, it's weird
15:03 PaulPalimm that the admin panel is not shown at the end of the page but somewhere
15:03 PaulPalimm in between. perhaps this is in a way related to the problem. in the
15:03 PaulPalimm source code the code for the admin panel is shown at the end, even after
15:03 PaulPalimm "</body></html>" doesn't look right either.
15:03 PaulPalimm thanks for any help!
15:03 PaulPalimm kind regards,
15:03 PaulPalimm paul
15:03 PaulPalimm sorry
15:03 PaulPalimm i did not plan to paste it that way
15:03 PaulPalimm :-/
15:14 kozy hello everybody, are there problems with the mailing list?
15:15 kozy II keep getting a mail from the deleivery system at netfielders saying there was a loop
15:15 nd__ I don't (so far)
15:16 kozy so what can I do wrong?
15:16 kozy I sign up, confirm, and send a mail to the address...
15:22 kozy and I see others post to the list now
15:22 kozy I think it's personal
15:25 kozy but maybe someone here can take a look?
15:25 kozy I have the following typoscript in a FCE field: http://phpfi.com/313076
15:26 kozy I need to upload an image, generate and display a thumbnail and then I use imageLinkWrap to display the full size image (that part omitted for brevity)
15:26 kozy if I save the FCE I get the following two errors:
15:26 kozy 1. Warning: filemtime() [function.filemtime]: stat failed for /web/uploads/tx_templavoila//web/fileadmin/images/demo/image.jpg in /web/typo3_src-4.1.6/t3lib/class.t3lib_befunc.php on line 1627
15:26 kozy [I save again...]
15:27 kozy 2: Could not delete file '/web/uploads/tx_templavoila//web/fileadmin/images/demo/image.jpg' (does not exist). (tt_content:75:tx_templavoila_flex)
15:27 kozy [I press continue...]
15:27 kozy Then everything is fine and functions as expected. What do I do wrong?
15:31 pumatertion ahoi
15:31 pumatertion htmlarea treibt mich seit 6 stunden wieder in den wahnsinn, weil ich ein p mit der klasse underlined versehen moechte
15:32 pumatertion http://phpfi.com/313080 wieso macht er diese config nicht?
15:32 FloLeBlanc *points at the topic*
15:33 pumatertion ups
15:33 pumatertion sorry
15:33 FloLeBlanc I recommend uschis Datenwolken page for RTE issues
15:33 pumatertion uschi? :P
15:34 FloLeBlanc she has a page where the use of own classes for the rte is explained in very good detail
15:34 FloLeBlanc but somehow I can't reach www.datenwolken.de
15:34 FloLeBlanc ah: http://dev.datenwolken.de/index.php?id=154
15:36 pumatertion mhh, you are sure this is the config for htmlarea and not for RTE?
15:38 FloLeBlanc ups
15:38 FloLeBlanc sorry misread your post
15:38 FloLeBlanc as stated above it is for the RTE
15:39 pumatertion so its not for my htmlarea =(
15:39 FloLeBlanc nope - sorry don't have a clue about htmlarea
15:40 pumatertion 6 hours of 180 heartbeat are enough. throwing my notebook out of the window now ...
15:40 pumatertion this htmlarea makes me realy nuts
15:43 mac3 hi
15:43 mac3 i am looking for a tutorial about backend module programming
15:44 mac3 does anyone know some tutorial/reference?
15:48 FloLeBlanc mac3: the good news is I'm pretty sure there is one, the bad news is I don't know where :) *points to voidus the extension god*
15:48 JCal hey all.. anyone know about how i can modify the feuser reg ext so that the "not a member yet. click here to register" link goes to my reg page instead of trying to load the reg form in the same area?
15:51 JCal also, question about changing the locallang.xml file for feuser reg... i know how to add values to the TS setup record to override the XML... but I just want to point to a different file entirely... anyone know the syntax for that?
16:00 mac3 FloLeBlanc: ^^
16:14 pumatertion anybody can help me to get a stupid class="underlined" on a p tag with htmlarea?
16:14 pumatertion i just want a stupid class on it
16:35 pumatertion okay, last try. im hanging to tell the htmlarea to publish a class in the paragraph pulldown. my css is holding a class names .underlined. and its in included for htmlarea on pageTS of the rootpage. troubleshooting mode of rte says: [HTMLArea::initIframe]: Content CSS set to: http://lobo.bleicker-dev.de/fileadmin/templates/css/rte2.css. so ists loaded. but css classes are not present in any of the pulldowns. page ts: http://phpfi.com/313110
16:38 kreegee sry, can't help you
16:48 piett hello
16:48 piett is there some documentation how to upgrade typo3/
16:49 ndee hi there, I'm trying to get realurl running. The rewriting works but realurl somehow omits the base-url, so instead of realurltest.ch/page.html, it generates just page.html. Anyone encountered that problem before?
16:56 void ndee: afaik, realurl always does not add base url to href
16:57 void ndee: and you need to set config.baseURL for adding <base> tag
16:58 ndee void: <base> is set
16:58 void so?
16:59 ndee so shouldn't the link generation be correct? Well, I'm just using an example from a page I found but I would have liked to do everything from bottom up :)
16:59 ndee for the localconf.php configuration that is
17:00 void ndee: i think it is correct
17:34 nd__ Has anyone a quick idea what I am missing? RealUrl; Menu points to speaking urls, but klicking on them the url changes but I stay on the introduction page. Quickshot?
17:40 maholtz @nd__ perhaps restart browser?
17:41 nd__ maholtz: Didn't help
17:41 nd__ Using Web->View it works fine
17:42 nd__ But this does not use realurl...
18:25 snooops Hey guys
18:26 snooops did anybody knows a really cool theme or skin to pimp my fedora ;)
18:26 snooops it would be really nice to have a dashboard or something else
18:37 wildhorse hello
18:42 Nolis hi guys anybody in, with expirience with timtab
18:51 Nolis can anyone look on this page an tell me why there is no content just shows me the spacer ###POSTS_LIST### ???
18:51 Nolis http://www.hisociety.at/index.php?id=146
20:45 Phlogi_ hello anybody alive?
20:54 mac3 how can i avoid a submodule of web being a framescript?
20:54 mac3 so the page tree doesnt show up
21:21 Phlogi_ anyone knows how I can control the tca to show my name where there is [no title] or how can I get rid of that? Furthermore how can I control the default view of my records in backend?
21:54 mac3 phlogi: are you coding your own backend extension?
22:12 mac3 can i use the FE template engine (getSubpart, ...) in the backend too?
22:22 void mac3: with some limitations
22:23 void Phlogi_: use ['ctrl']['title'] at TCA
22:23 Phlogi_ void: thanks a lot, I found it out :)
22:23 void Phlogi_: you have not so much control on your records in web>list..
22:24 Phlogi_ void: hehe with extended view you do
22:24 void i mean, you cannot really customize the output...
22:24 mac3 void: is there an easy way to design the backend module interface?
22:24 Phlogi_ void: yes, thats true
22:24 Phlogi_ mac3: good question...
22:25 void mac3: dreamweaver & photoshop? (vim & gimp?)
22:25 mac3 currently i'm working with a mediumDoc instance and some own functions to apply my css styles
22:25 mac3 void: ye, but some functionality is lacking in the backend module API
22:26 mac3 void: with "design", i mean code actually ,)
22:26 void hehe.. =)
22:28 void mac3: i think, for now the best way is to copy desing of well-known or good-looking backend modules
22:28 void because some changes will come
22:28 mac3 yay :)
22:28 void in (not-no-)near future
22:28 void *not-so
22:29 mac3 ok ;P
22:29 void I read some conversations at HCI about smarty and extjs..
22:29 mac3 that would be quite cool
22:30 void yes, but not in 4.2...
22:30 void maybe in 4.3
22:31 mac3 the 4.2 backend looks nice btw
22:31 void yes
23:06 Denyerec if they'd fix the mismatch in the colour pallette it'd look nice.
23:06 Denyerec Right now it looks bloody awful.
23:07 Denyerec hey void, gerards
23:07 void Denyerec: maybe you can write a patch?
23:07 void Denyerec: also, did you discuss that on HCI?
23:08 Denyerec I mentioned it
23:10 gerards hi Denyerec. :)
23:11 uriahheep void: is it possible to set the baseURL for it to only affect one single link?
23:11 void don't think so
23:11 uriahheep hmmm, damn....
23:14 Best hey, can I mount the uploads folder in my Filelist in the backend ?
23:14 Best I tried with absolute path but didnt work
23:22 Best another one: I changed RTE_imageStorageDir in the config but it still uploads in uploads/pics/ .... what to do so he takes new folder?
23:22 Denyerec WTF
23:23 Denyerec > "Denyer" please stick to the NewsGroup rules
23:23 Denyerec > and post with your real name!
23:23 Denyerec >
23:23 Denyerec > Thanks Jens
23:23 Denyerec Who the hell is Jens, and why does he seem to know my own name better than I do ?
23:23 Denyerec That has made me rather more annoyed than I would have otherwise expected it to.
23:24 Denyerec Jens Hoffman - HCI Team Leader
23:25 Denyerec perhaps I should question whether Jens is his real name and see how he reacts...
23:25 Denyerec o_O
23:25 uriahheep heh :)
23:26 uriahheep r.i.p.
23:27 void Best: you should not. files at upload folder is somehow related to DB records and therefore you cannot edit or delete them without crashing db integrity
23:30 Denyerec Hey void
23:30 Denyerec I don't know my own name!
23:30 void really? -)
23:30 Denyerec According to Jens... :)
23:31 Denyerec he wants me to use my real name on the mailling list, instead of "Denyer"
23:31 Denyerec which kinda leaves me a bit clueless!
23:31 uriahheep void: is it possible to make a typolink simply print out the url, not actually create the link?
23:32 void uriahheep: yes
23:32 uriahheep nice
23:33 uriahheep void: how would i do that?
23:33 void Denyerec: pray that your name isn't Fyck Yong
23:34 Denyerec It's Denyer...
23:34 Denyerec :/
23:34 void uriahheep: see TSREF on typolink.returnLast
23:34 uriahheep hmmmm
23:34 uriahheep void: i tried that :S it's in a flexform, and not doing what i ask :(
23:35 void Denyerec: scan your passport and give a link to picture? -)
23:35 uriahheep 10 = TEXT; 10.typolink.parameter = current; 10.typolink.returnLast = url
23:35 Denyerec Hah perhaps
23:35 uriahheep Denyerec: is your last name ec? :P
23:36 void uriahheep: flexform? BE does not contain cobj class
23:36 Denyerec Hehe
23:36 Denyerec no, my last name is Denyer
23:36 Denyerec my first name is "Matt"
23:36 uriahheep void: huh?
23:36 Denyerec but I haven't used that in 25 years.
23:36 uriahheep Denyerec: oh, lol :P
23:36 Denyerec So I don't consider it "my name"
23:36 void 25 years?
23:36 uriahheep hmm, i see
23:36 Denyerec everyone, and I mean *EVERYONE* calls me Den, or Denyer.
23:36 void o_O
23:36 Denyerec or Munky.
23:36 uriahheep lol
23:36 Denyerec (Sister...)
23:36 uriahheep that's what your girlfriend calls you :P
23:36 uriahheep admit it
23:37 uriahheep :D
23:37 Denyerec Nah, she calls me Den
23:37 uriahheep ah...
23:37 uriahheep as in... the groovy love den
23:37 Denyerec I introduce myself to business clients as Denyer, etc etc etc.
23:37 uriahheep ok i'll stop..
23:37 Denyerec (Yeah you got it ;))
23:37 uriahheep haha
23:38 Denyerec Ain't used Matt in 25 years, don't intend to start now.
23:38 Denyerec even when I look at the word on the screen, it looks foreign, it's someone elses name, not mine :)
23:39 void Denyerec: and your clients does not say about your weirdness that you have only one name?
23:39 Denyerec Nope
23:39 uriahheep void: so, you're saying that it won't work in a templavoila DS?
23:39 Denyerec they don't mind that I don't wear shoes, either.
23:39 void uriahheep: ah... DS.. DS != flexform
23:39 uriahheep ah, ok :P
23:40 uriahheep ok, so i mean the TS in a DS :P
23:40 void Denyerec: the great british mentality.
23:40 Denyerec Hehe aye.
23:40 Denyerec People tend not to mention a guy with no hair and no shoes.
23:40 Denyerec *question
23:40 Denyerec not mention
23:40 Denyerec People tend not to question a guy with no hair and no shoes.
23:41 void yeah.. i read a lot about Britain and Japan... lot alike
23:41 Denyerec Perhaps in 1950's Britaint.
23:41 Denyerec Honour is dead here now.
23:41 Denyerec So is work ethic and morality.
23:42 void Denyerec: do you have central heating? -)
23:42 Denyerec Not yet
23:42 Denyerec we have radiators on the walls, but they are not connected.
23:42 Denyerec Winter was chilly :)
23:42 void hehe.. from times of Romans
23:42 Denyerec Hey they had hypercausts
23:42 Denyerec we can't afford that nowadays!
23:42 Denyerec :)
23:43 Denyerec (Can't get the slaves cheap enough....)
23:43 void hypercaust?
23:43 Denyerec Yeah, tis' what the Roman underfloor heating system was called
23:44 Denyerec chambers under the floors where warm air currents from fires were engineered to flow around.
23:46 Denyerec *hypocaust
23:46 Denyerec beneath-floor
23:46 Denyerec please excuse my poor Latin!!
23:46 Denyerec http://www.romans-in-britain.org.uk/inv_central_heating.htm
23:47 void ah.. didn't know that word.. not me, nor my dictionary..
23:49 FoBunko can I re-define a column field (fe_groups.title) label from tca.php?
23:51 Denyerec I might actuall get these for shoes though: http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/products_KSO.cfm
23:51 Denyerec :D
23:52 smeringe scary
23:52 void FoBunko: yes..
23:52 Denyerec slightly less scary than my bare feet :)
23:52 smeringe haha
23:53 FoBunko void: pls tell me then how to do it
23:54 void Denyerec: my friend wear socks with different place for each finger
23:54 Denyerec hehe my GF has some of those.
23:54 Denyerec I seldom wear socks, though :)
23:54 void FoBunko: just re-define part of TCA
23:55 FoBunko no use of that
23:56 void FoBunko: what you mean?
23:56 FoBunko $TCA[fe_users][columns][username][label] = 'beeela';
23:56 FoBunko does nothing
23:57 void 'fe_users']['columns'] ?
23:57 void ah, maybe you need to use ext_tables.php, not tca.php
23:58 FoBunko my gf used to be a hoe she has lot of fancy socks and well... ;)
23:58 FoBunko alright
23:59 FoBunko yup working tx

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