| 00:00 |
FoBunko |
void: the more I learn about typo the more I'm convinced it has many parts messed up like hell |
| 00:01 |
FoBunko |
we had this argue if you remember |
| 00:01 |
void |
no, i don't :( |
| 00:02 |
FoBunko |
alright never mind :) |
| 00:03 |
void |
typo3 is really too complicated |
| 00:04 |
void |
but now, when i know all typo3's features and lacks... i can make new site in a 2 hours |
| 00:05 |
Denyerec |
better would be to say "Now I know all of Typo3's features and shortcomings, I can make a new site in 2 hours" |
| 00:05 |
Denyerec |
lacks is a verb. |
| 00:05 |
void |
Denyerec: thanks |
| 00:05 |
Denyerec |
yw |
| 00:05 |
void |
i thought to use "disadvantages" |
| 00:06 |
void |
but it's too long for english =) |
| 00:06 |
Denyerec |
yes that is also suitable. |
| 00:06 |
FoBunko |
and how many sites could you have done in the meantime you spent learning ;P (just jokin) |
| 00:06 |
Denyerec |
though a disadvantage and a shortcoming are different things. |
| 00:07 |
Denyerec |
It's subtle, but there :) |
| 00:07 |
Denyerec |
FoBunko - Typo3 really does make life easier eventually. |
| 00:07 |
Denyerec |
The learning curve is more of an asymptote. |
| 00:08 |
Denyerec |
But once you get the hang of it, you can do a lot in a little time, and the flexibility compared to other systems is a great thing |
| 00:08 |
FoBunko |
but ffs it's not about the learning |
| 00:09 |
FoBunko |
that was a joke, I still miss real oop and find some things haven't been designed well that's all |
| 00:10 |
void |
hm.. me posted news about release of 4.2 at 2 big russian news resources... and get negative response (generally) |
| 00:10 |
FoBunko |
I like 4.2... |
| 00:11 |
void |
responses was not about 4.2, rather on typo3 |
| 00:11 |
FoBunko |
IC |
| 00:12 |
void |
on one resource people said "drupal rulez, typo3 sucks", on another - "django/pylons rulez, typo3 sucks" =) |
| 00:13 |
Denyerec |
Mmm. |
| 00:13 |
Denyerec |
you yourself think that Python rules ;) |
| 00:13 |
FoBunko |
no no I rulez |
| 00:13 |
Denyerec |
Though I think the people who jump on Drupal and compare it as being "better" than Typo, are those people who couldn't get Typo to work ;) |
| 00:15 |
void |
I cannot get Drupal to work :'( |
| 00:15 |
Denyerec |
Hahaha |
| 00:15 |
Denyerec |
I never tried Drupal |
| 00:15 |
Denyerec |
I think Typoscript is what I love the most. |
| 00:16 |
FoBunko |
yea just as I thought ;) |
| 00:17 |
void |
ok guys, need to go sleep... will visit military registration office tomorrow morning |
| 00:19 |
void |
gn8 |
| 00:21 |
Denyerec |
:/ |
| 00:21 |
Denyerec |
what you doing with the miklitary void? |
| 00:22 |
void |
Denyerec: do you know that there is mandatory conscription at Russia? |
| 00:22 |
FoBunko |
just tell them you know typo they'll drop you |
| 00:22 |
Denyerec |
Still ? |
| 00:22 |
Denyerec |
Shit... |
| 00:23 |
Denyerec |
does this mean you're going to disappear for two years? |
| 00:23 |
Denyerec |
Throw nerve gas into a couple of Cinemas and come home "A man"... ;) |
| 00:23 |
FoBunko |
no, this means all military sites will use typo in 2 years |
| 00:23 |
Denyerec |
Hehehe |
| 00:24 |
void |
Denyerec: for one year, at worst case |
| 00:24 |
Denyerec |
Can't claim you have a bad back? |
| 00:25 |
void |
russian army is a bad and dangerous place.. |
| 00:26 |
Denyerec |
No kidding. |
| 00:26 |
Denyerec |
For both those people IN it, and the people they come to visit... |
| 00:26 |
void |
so, i am trying to go to post-graduate |
| 00:26 |
void |
IN - not really, i think |
| 00:28 |
void |
post-graduate give an delay.. and if i'll finish post-graduate succesfully, i will not go to army at all) |
| 00:28 |
Denyerec |
:D |
| 00:28 |
Denyerec |
I am sure you would have no problem with a post-grad |
| 00:28 |
void |
not so sure |
| 00:28 |
Denyerec |
you could get a student visa to our university in an instant |
| 00:29 |
void |
really? and what then? -) |
| 00:29 |
Denyerec |
one of my friends at kunfu was a Romanian who came to the UK to do his degree because university in Romania was too difficult :) |
| 00:30 |
void |
Romania? difficult? |
| 00:30 |
void |
maybe i should visit romania |
| 00:30 |
Denyerec |
Apparently so. |
| 00:30 |
Denyerec |
University in the UK is a joke. |
| 00:30 |
Denyerec |
I should know, they gave me top marks :D |
| 00:30 |
smeringe |
:D |
| 00:30 |
void |
really? did not know that |
| 00:31 |
Denyerec |
Yeah education in the UK is worthless now. |
| 00:31 |
Denyerec |
PHD post-graduate is still going strong. |
| 00:31 |
Denyerec |
but undergraduate standards are falling fast |
| 00:31 |
void |
Denyerec: i can say that about Russian higher education.. |
| 00:31 |
Denyerec |
as the government uses university to deflate unemployment figures. |
| 00:32 |
kreegee |
hm |
| 00:32 |
kreegee |
undergrad is bachelor, right? |
| 00:32 |
kreegee |
whats master? |
| 00:32 |
FoBunko |
they must teach TS as well |
| 00:32 |
Denyerec |
batchelor and masters are both "under graduate" |
| 00:32 |
kreegee |
ok |
| 00:32 |
Denyerec |
I did a 4-year masters in electronic and computer systems engineering, with a focus on silicon and CPU engineering |
| 00:33 |
Denyerec |
gives you some idea of who they'll let through the system ;) |
| 00:33 |
kreegee |
my bachelor took this long |
| 00:33 |
Denyerec |
Yeah in the UK a batchelor has been 3 years normally |
| 00:33 |
Denyerec |
but I think this is changing soon to keep up with Europe |
| 00:33 |
Denyerec |
WHich I think is 4 years standard. |
| 00:33 |
kreegee |
here it's 3 years for bachelor, 2 years for master |
| 00:34 |
kreegee |
-> 5 years/10 semesters total |
| 00:34 |
Denyerec |
our masters was 4 years |
| 00:34 |
Denyerec |
(3 year batchelor with 1 year masters, but it was combined into one course) |
| 00:34 |
void |
here it's no bachelors and masters, just "specialists" (5 years) |
| 00:34 |
Denyerec |
the sad thing is I feel like I have no education |
| 00:34 |
void |
but they want to intoduce bachelors and masters (4 and 6 years) |
| 00:36 |
kreegee |
well, here (in switzerland) 10% have a university degree, so i still feel i'm somewhat educated ;) |
| 00:36 |
void |
so.. higher education here is crap, usually. but secondary education is strong |
| 00:37 |
Denyerec |
Secondary education here is appalling |
| 00:37 |
Denyerec |
I am glad I got mine when I did |
| 00:37 |
Denyerec |
nowadays it's a complete joke |
| 00:37 |
Denyerec |
it's as if they WANT To breed generations of mindless zombies |
| 00:37 |
kreegee |
hey, shaun of dead was pretty funny ;) |
| 00:37 |
Denyerec |
hehe |
| 00:38 |
Awillys |
Denyerec: undegraduate standard are falling everywhere in europe |
| 00:38 |
Denyerec |
:( |
| 00:38 |
Denyerec |
Awillys - your mailling list Q : 15-50€ is about right |
| 00:38 |
Denyerec |
depending on speed and quality |
| 00:38 |
Awillys |
the coming generation is am population of dumb :/ |
| 00:38 |
Awillys |
fans of Paris Hilton and David Beckam |
| 00:39 |
Denyerec |
Indeed |
| 00:39 |
Denyerec |
the Cult of the Celebrity |
| 00:39 |
Denyerec |
nothing more disgusting :( |
| 00:39 |
Awillys |
you got to adapt school level.. |
| 00:39 |
Awillys |
they can tell you who won American Idole but no clue about anythg else ^^ |
| 00:39 |
kreegee |
you two sound pretty old *scnr* |
| 00:39 |
smeringe |
:P |
| 00:39 |
Awillys |
lol |
| 00:40 |
Awillys |
i am not |
| 00:40 |
Awillys |
but looking around me that is what i see |
| 00:40 |
Denyerec |
likewise |
| 00:40 |
Awillys |
Denyerec: k for the Mailing list thing. tx |
| 00:42 |
Denyerec |
LOL: two good reasons to use Firefox! ;) http://www.fukung.net/v/8799/72973795_81f8eeab41_o.jpg |
| 00:50 |
Awillys |
Denyerec: roflol |
| 00:54 |
Awillys |
http://www.fukung.net/v/618/iraq-explained.gif |
| 00:54 |
Awillys |
lol |
| 00:55 |
Denyerec |
careful on there Awillys, it's a proper time-eating site! |
| 00:55 |
Awillys |
indeed |
| 00:55 |
Awillys |
i am clicking since ^^ |
| 00:55 |
Denyerec |
Exactly :/ |
| 00:55 |
Denyerec |
some brilliant photos on there though! |
| 00:55 |
Awillys |
yup |
| 00:55 |
smeringe |
some brilliant, and some so crappy |
| 00:56 |
Awillys |
the main thing is to stay focus: http://www.fukung.net/v/6352/245-wooniceboobies.jpg |
| 00:56 |
smeringe |
:) |
| 00:58 |
Denyerec |
http://www.fukung.net/v/303/patsanfoto.jpg |
| 00:58 |
Denyerec |
hhehe |
| 00:59 |
smeringe |
lol |
| 01:00 |
Denyerec |
videos that do not buffer properly should be banned from the itnernet. |
| 01:00 |
Denyerec |
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/111582/992708 |
| 01:00 |
Denyerec |
that is playing hell for me |
| 01:00 |
Awillys |
roflol |
| 01:00 |
Awillys |
i better stop now ^^ |
| 01:01 |
Awillys |
sad: http://www.fukung.net/v/8534/a1c580f027b9ad40a774d5485e9552dd.gif |
| 01:02 |
Awillys |
well, gn8 folks |
| 01:02 |
Denyerec |
nn dude |
| 01:04 |
Awillys |
http://www.fukung.net/v/7104/desktop.jpg |
| 01:04 |
Awillys |
lol |
| 01:04 |
Awillys |
well gn8 for real now ^^ |
| 01:31 |
gerards |
Denyerec: isn't "lack" a noun too? |
| 01:31 |
gerards |
:D |
| 01:31 |
gerards |
brb. |
| 01:32 |
Denyerec |
"he displayed a general lack of ability" |
| 01:32 |
Denyerec |
so, yes. |
| 01:33 |
Denyerec |
But "lacks" is the 2nd person form of the verb "To Lack" eg "He lacks..." |
| 01:33 |
Denyerec |
(Is that the 3rd person? I don't know... never studied grammar) |
| 06:20 |
xsebi |
mornin |
| 08:08 |
d|g |
hi all |
| 08:22 |
koomi |
moin |
| 09:10 |
FloLeBlanc |
hi all |
| 09:11 |
swemark |
Hello :) |
| 09:11 |
koomi |
ullo flo |
| 09:11 |
koomi |
& swemark :) |
| 09:20 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
hi all |
| 09:27 |
swemark |
Hey GeorgesAbitbol |
| 09:37 |
FloLeBlanc |
hi GeorgesAbitbol |
| 09:38 |
FloLeBlanc |
now that no one talkes about anything else: has anyone seen Jigal lately? has been some time since I last saw him here :( |
| 09:48 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
when changing my host (and domain), the generated urls from realurl always wrong (Realurl->404->homepage). What do I have to do ? |
| 09:48 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
clear the realurl database ? |
| 09:51 |
swemark |
yeah |
| 09:51 |
swemark |
well |
| 09:51 |
swemark |
under info theres a dropdown list |
| 09:52 |
swemark |
go in there and clear cached urls |
| 09:52 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
swemark: thx. I've done it and clear cache but no change. I ty again |
| 09:52 |
swemark |
both encoded and decoded aswell as path |
| 09:54 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
swemark: All is free now. But strangely, my urls are not generated again in info module. But in front, the urls are generated and forward to erro page. |
| 09:54 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
swemark: ok. it seems it aws because I was connected in BE. |
| 09:54 |
N33D |
somebody uses the ext: comments? |
| 09:55 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
==> no cache => no ruls cached I think ? |
| 09:55 |
swemark |
GeorgesAbitbol: yeah urls are not regenerated when your logged in |
| 09:55 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
swemark: thx. it's perfect |
| 10:03 |
N33D |
i've got the ext: "Comments" at an singlevieuw of tt_news, but when iam having simulate static documents on, and give an comment , then tt_news says: No id given.. somebody knows why? |
| 10:03 |
N33D |
it's only when iam having simulate static documents ON.. |
| 10:13 |
FloLeBlanc |
anyone using mm_forum 0.1.6 except me? :) |
| 10:29 |
N33D |
FloLeBlanc: haven't updated yet.. don't know if i must do that, because i've got a lot of modifications |
| 10:30 |
FloLeBlanc |
:) |
| 10:31 |
nd_ |
I have a problem with realurl: My menu sets the links to speaking urls e.g. href="contact/". When I click on them, I just get a reload of the same page, but the URL in the browser changes. Any ideas? Nothing special here... just t3 + realurl |
| 10:39 |
maholtz |
@nd_: show your baseUrl |
| 10:40 |
banban |
hi there! i'm using tt_news. news are assigned to different news categories which are the same as on my main menu. is it possible to make menu link active when SINGLE news is displayed, depending from which category is SINGLE news displayed? |
| 10:42 |
FloLeBlanc |
banban: the only way I'd know of ad hoc is making multiple single views which isn't what you look for I guess hehe |
| 10:42 |
backzwang |
I have a question in programming extensions: Is there a possibilty to forward to another page inside of a plugin? Is there for example a method like TSFE->forwardToPageId(123) |
| 10:42 |
nd_ |
maholtz: For real? It ends with the slash if that's what you're looking for |
| 10:43 |
banban |
FloLeBlanc: aha, so i need multiple SINGLE pages... thats quite unpractical yes... |
| 10:43 |
banban |
not a good practice hehe |
| 10:44 |
maholtz |
@nd_ and it is in your webseite - and your problem is in every browser? |
| 10:44 |
maholtz |
so you have to look at the http traffic |
| 10:45 |
nd_ |
maholtz: Sadly I cannot read the logs live |
| 10:45 |
nd_ |
maholtz: Yes, I guess every browser. Lemme check Safari for a change |
| 10:46 |
nd_ |
maholtz: Well, so it's the same in every browser. |
| 10:49 |
nd_ |
maholtz: I thought it might be related to the fact that I had typo3 running in a different directory before, and then moved it. But I did clean up the realUrl db in the info-view |
| 10:51 |
banban |
FloLeBlanc: that will quite do anyway; another question: is it possible to "shorten" urls with realurl configuration? eg: http://host.com/article/news_category/news -> http://host.com/news_category/news |
| 10:51 |
FloLeBlanc |
sorry never worked with realURL yet |
| 10:56 |
N33D |
<FloLeBlanc: you work with simulate static doc? |
| 10:56 |
FloLeBlanc |
hmm can anyone tell me if some site options are set wrong when <image A> <image B> is displayed differently in all browsers than <image A><image B> (without the blank) |
| 10:56 |
FloLeBlanc |
n33d: no, i just have the normal index= |
| 10:57 |
N33D |
IE6? |
| 10:57 |
FloLeBlanc |
n33d: IE7, FF, Opera |
| 10:57 |
FloLeBlanc |
have this issue with mm_forum currently and "space between buttons" |
| 10:57 |
N33D |
And they are different in every broser? |
| 10:58 |
FloLeBlanc |
no, the same behaviour |
| 10:58 |
N33D |
example? |
| 10:58 |
FloLeBlanc |
but afaik there shouldn't be a space between images when there is a blank should there? |
| 10:58 |
FloLeBlanc |
example see above (image A/image B) |
| 10:58 |
FloLeBlanc |
if I have <imageA> <imageB> => space between images |
| 10:58 |
FloLeBlanc |
if I have <imageA><imageB> => no space |
| 10:59 |
N33D |
ye.. i mean live example.. because it must be some CSS trouble |
| 10:59 |
N33D |
i think |
| 10:59 |
FloLeBlanc |
how can that be CSS related? |
| 10:59 |
FloLeBlanc |
the only difference is the blank, no classes or whatever |
| 11:00 |
N33D |
how did you place that images? in content of the mm_forum or ? |
| 11:00 |
FloLeBlanc |
the images are generated by mm_forum |
| 11:01 |
FloLeBlanc |
normal images wrapped with links |
| 11:02 |
FloLeBlanc |
if I change the file class.tx_mmforum_postfunctions.php and remove the blank the images are together without a seperating space |
| 11:03 |
N33D |
isn't some trouble with tables where the images are placed in? ( just suggestions ) i had some trouble with mm_forum becuase everything is in tables |
| 11:05 |
FloLeBlanc |
hmm don't know.. I thought it is related to the doctype perhaps? |
| 11:05 |
maholtz |
@nd: there is a httpliveheaders extension for firefox - so you can easily read the http traffic |
| 11:06 |
N33D |
never had trouble with the doctype.. so don;t know.. |
| 11:09 |
nd_ |
maholtz: I will check that. Thanks so far. |
| 11:09 |
nd_ |
Trying to get more informations about what's going on I enabled stat, stat_mysql... do I have to add the table by hand? |
| 11:11 |
N33D |
somebody know how to make tt_news (LIST) per day.. so when it's another day tt_news makes a new headline with the name of the new day |
| 11:13 |
nd_ |
maholtz: So I get a 404 it seems. But so far I still have no clue why it's not working |
| 11:16 |
Strend |
hi |
| 11:16 |
maholtz |
@nd: check your realurl conf and .htaccess again |
| 11:21 |
nd_ |
maholtz: All right, checking out more of this extension, I see that the 404 is only for the favicon. I get a 200 OK for the page itself. Anything specific to look for to find the error? |
| 11:27 |
dokma |
hi guys |
| 11:27 |
nd__ |
Sorry, got disconnected at 11:23... were there any answers? |
| 11:28 |
dokma |
guys. do you know of any TYPO3 or PHP function that would collect environment information for debugging purposes. such as OS, Web server, PHP version etc. ? |
| 11:28 |
FloLeBlanc |
hmm according to the folks in #html a whitespace is intended to be displayed just like that... |
| 11:28 |
dokma |
I need it for a report for my ext |
| 11:28 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
I have a "[hostname = www.monsite.com] condition and it is not working. IS it wrong ? |
| 11:29 |
dokma |
GeorgesAbitbol: seems correct |
| 11:30 |
nd__ |
dokma: phpinfo()? |
| 11:30 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
dokma: for me too ^^. |
| 11:30 |
dokma |
just checking if I can capture the output of that |
| 11:32 |
dokma |
found ob_start() |
| 11:32 |
dokma |
a pretty nifty function |
| 11:32 |
dokma |
hehe |
| 11:33 |
banban |
is it possible to have url like http://domain.com/treelevel_1/level2/news/010101/some_article/ converted to http://domain.com/some_article/ using realurl? |
| 11:34 |
swemark |
shortcuts is the shit |
| 11:34 |
N33D |
lol |
| 11:37 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
dokma: ok, it's because REMOTE_ADR is IP not domain. How could I do a test on subdomain ? |
| 11:40 |
dokma |
GeorgesAbitbol: Value is comma-list of domain names to match with. *-wildcard allowed but cannot be part of a string, so it must match the full host name (eg. myhost.*.com => correct, myhost.*domain.com => wrong) |
| 11:41 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
dokma: the issue is that this condition use the $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] which is an IP for me. So subdomins are the same )( |
| 11:41 |
dokma |
banban: I think you can use rewrites in the RealUrl itself |
| 11:41 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
:( |
| 11:41 |
dokma |
ohhh |
| 11:41 |
dokma |
that's ugly man |
| 11:42 |
dokma |
can't think of a way to access subdomains |
| 11:43 |
banban |
dokma: any idea how? i'm no expert in realurl so nay tip maybe? |
| 11:43 |
dokma |
banban: try installing realurl management extension |
| 11:43 |
dokma |
I think it has support for adding rewrites |
| 11:43 |
dokma |
not sure though |
| 11:43 |
nd__ |
Well, updating to 1.3.2 didn't help either... damnit |
| 11:44 |
banban |
dokma: aha, thanks, will try |
| 11:52 |
nd__ |
Ah, geez... can't be that hard to find the error |
| 11:53 |
banban |
dokma: i tried that ext now and it works well for proper pages, but it seems there is problem for tt_news articles - url is generated well but news is not shown.... |
| 11:53 |
dokma |
banban: can you paste the url? |
| 11:54 |
banban |
dokma: i cannot you won't be able to see it |
| 11:54 |
banban |
:-/ |
| 11:54 |
dokma |
you know what the prob might be |
| 11:54 |
dokma |
parameters are embedded in the url |
| 11:55 |
dokma |
if you rewrite the url parameters might be lost |
| 11:55 |
dokma |
so the tt_news plugin does not get the info on which news item to display |
| 11:55 |
banban |
aha yes |
| 11:55 |
banban |
hmmm i wonder if there is any workaround |
| 11:56 |
dokma |
I doubt there would be an automatic workaround |
| 12:00 |
banban |
dokma: hmmm okey thanks for help |
| 12:00 |
dokma |
np |
| 12:01 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
typo3 is making me crazy !!!! |
| 12:02 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
with realurl, i have mondomain.com/blabla/bla.html |
| 12:02 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
and then on this page, instead of mondomaincom/home.html, I have mondomain/blabla/home/html |
| 12:02 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
the baseurl is not taken into account ? |
| 12:07 |
nd__ |
Crazy here too with different problems :/ |
| 12:07 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
typo3 = mad :( |
| 12:14 |
floxx |
is there a way to suppress comma separation of categories in tt_news? if a news has more than 1 category, it is outputted "cat1, cat2" |
| 12:19 |
swemark |
i get the GDLib is not found in the install-tool. What to do? |
| 12:29 |
swemark |
php5-gd :) |
| 12:50 |
nd__ |
Any more wild guesses why my realUrl isn't working? I take everything now..! |
| 12:59 |
swemark |
mind repeating the problem? |
| 13:04 |
swemark |
i have a mindblasting problem! |
| 13:04 |
swemark |
css_styled_content is nowhere to be found |
| 13:05 |
fred^^ |
hey, any of you know regex? |
| 13:05 |
fred^^ |
im trying to match something, but have only managed to match half |
| 13:07 |
maholtz |
@swemark: css_styled_content is an system extension |
| 13:07 |
nd_ |
fred^^: A bit |
| 13:07 |
swemark |
maholtz: i know, thats the thing |
| 13:07 |
swemark |
it is not in typo3 backend |
| 13:07 |
swemark |
for inclusion |
| 13:07 |
nd_ |
swemark: My problem is that with realUrl enabled the Links in my menu point to a relative speaking url, but clicking on them only changes the url in the browser-bar, not the content, active link, etc. |
| 13:07 |
fred^^ |
http://phpfi.com/313268 |
| 13:07 |
fred^^ |
thats what i got so far |
| 13:07 |
swemark |
neither is it in the ext manager |
| 13:08 |
swemark |
nd_ sounds like a realurl_conf.php problem |
| 13:09 |
nd_ |
swemark: Thought that too. But as I'm not using any extensions (like tt_news or specialities) it should work fine with the autoconf, no? |
| 13:09 |
swemark |
nd_ javascript menu? |
| 13:09 |
swemark |
yeah |
| 13:09 |
swemark |
it should |
| 13:09 |
nd_ |
I deleted it several times, killed caches, heck.. :) |
| 13:09 |
maholtz |
@swemark: have an look on the file system |
| 13:09 |
nd_ |
No, plain text menu |
| 13:09 |
swemark |
odd |
| 13:10 |
nd_ |
fred^^: And what's missing? |
| 13:11 |
swemark |
nd_ got a link to try out? |
| 13:11 |
nd_ |
swemark: I do, wait a moment |
| 13:12 |
fred^^ |
nd_ it only matches 100% C. also, there are some names that have several names, so it need to match VALUE VALUE VALUE VALUE VALUE VALUE |
| 13:12 |
fred^^ |
or something |
| 13:13 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
If I set config.baseUrl, I should have the baseurl tag in html code ? |
| 13:14 |
nd___ |
GeorgesAbitbol: yes |
| 13:14 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
nd___: and it's not ^^ |
| 13:15 |
nd___ |
GeorgesAbitbol: Having the slash in the end? |
| 13:15 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
nd___: yes |
| 13:16 |
nd___ |
fred^^: I'm afraid that's more than I know of regex. Something like (C)* for unlimited Cs might help you, or not |
| 13:17 |
fred^^ |
yeah, no problem |
| 13:17 |
fred^^ |
i need to experiment and do some google |
| 13:18 |
nd___ |
fred^^: Enclosing the last part for the part after the 100% in (|)* could really do it... |
| 13:19 |
GeorgesAbitbol |
what could disable this baseurl tag ? |
| 13:20 |
nd___ |
Wrong syntax? Template not included? |
| 13:55 |
FloLeBlanc |
re |
| 13:56 |
N33D |
is there an extension that will shows text in the image when roll-over? text that is allready given in the ALT for example, can't find it! and really need it |
| 13:59 |
s-andersen |
Is it not possible to have 2 sysfolders each storing different templates with TemplateVoila? |
| 14:00 |
FloLeBlanc |
s-andersen: sorry I don't understand the question. as far as I know you can do as many templates in as many sysfolders as you like, then you link them to the page you want them to appear? |
| 14:01 |
s-andersen |
FloLeBlanc: when I go to the file module, and right-click on a new HTML file that I want to make a template of, and then trying to save it, I only have the option of saving to 1 sysfolder, and that sysfolder already contains templates that I don't want to mix with this one |
| 14:02 |
FloLeBlanc |
ah I thought you talked about TS templates sorry |
| 14:09 |
fred^^ |
s-andersen just go into filelist, find the html file and select TemplaVoila from the new menu |
| 14:10 |
s-andersen |
Yes fred^^ and then what? |
| 14:10 |
fred^^ |
err. im kind of stressed here so i might be missunderstanding you |
| 14:10 |
fred^^ |
sec |
| 14:11 |
s-andersen |
fred^^: The problem is that when I'm done mapping I can only save to sysfolder with UID:3 and I want to save to sysfolder with UID:14 |
| 14:11 |
fred^^ |
you can only have one General Storage folder as far as i know |
| 14:11 |
fred^^ |
what you want to do is create another template |
| 14:11 |
fred^^ |
thats it. im not sure why you want them in another sysfolder |
| 14:13 |
s-andersen |
I have two different domains in one installation of TYPO3. And I obviously don't want to mix the templates of the two domains |
| 14:41 |
fred^^ |
each site and domain can have their own general storage page |
| 14:48 |
s-andersen |
Yep fred^^ I solved the problem, I just couldn't remember that it was the GRSP that determined wether TV would save to a sysfolder or not |
| 14:52 |
Jigal |
Good afternoon T3lovers :-) |
| 14:53 |
FloLeBlanc |
hi Jigal :) |
| 14:54 |
Jigal |
I am asked to use the standard search (not indexed-search!) for a subsection of a site. In TSREF I read that ' var "stype" = the starting point of the search'. I see that is used in the form that is generated by the search content item, but I see no clues how to set it (backend form, typoscript, whatever). Help?? |
| 14:55 |
Jigal |
Hi FloLeBlanc, how are you these days? |
| 14:55 |
FloLeBlanc |
Jigal: currently I'm trying to fix my remaining problems for the great mm_forum Extension 0.1.6 |
| 14:55 |
FloLeBlanc |
you? |
| 14:57 |
FloLeBlanc |
omg lol.. there is a typo3 ste_saints extension that shows the "saint of the day" :) |
| 14:57 |
Denyerec |
Indeed |
| 14:58 |
Jigal |
FloLeBlanc: a great new forum extension? Greater than the WEC and CHC variations? Sounds interesting! |
| 14:59 |
FloLeBlanc |
jigal: I didn't test the 2 you mentioned, but mm_forum is used for typo3.net for a long time and I find it quite nice (apart from a few minor bugs) |
| 14:59 |
Jigal |
FloLeBlanc: I've been tweaking Gallery2 and the extension for a customer for a while. Now I'm fixing odds and ends in various projects. |
| 15:00 |
s-andersen |
I have made a content element object in TV, any ideas on how I wrap each content-element with <div class="somethin">|</div> ? In the normal template module I would you styles.content.getLeft.renderObj, but I don't know how TV renders these |
| 15:01 |
s-andersen |
Jigal: I would prefer mm_forum to those you mentioned there. CHC is old and unmaintained, mm_forum has a lot of cool features |
| 15:01 |
FloLeBlanc |
s-andersen: yes.. unfortunately no one seems to know the answer to the minor questions that are still open :) |
| 15:01 |
Jigal |
FloLeBlanc: I haven't tried the WEC (forum/guestbook/blog in one piece), but the chc_forum is quite complete. It also contains bugs and illogical features (but then again, nothing is perfect). |
| 15:02 |
s-andersen |
FloLeBlanc: Which questions? :) |
| 15:03 |
Jigal |
s-andersen: an extension that is actually maintained is very nice indeed. Cool features are a nice plus... |
| 15:04 |
Jigal |
But does anybody now how to tweak standard search a bit? :-) |
| 15:04 |
FloLeBlanc |
s-andersen: a) how to put an additional answer button on top of the list_posts view b) how to sync the avatar with sr_feuser_registers userpic c) where did the profile link in the list view go to? d) why is there a whitespace between the userbuttons (ICQ,AIM,etc.) now, and can I remove it without "hacking" the source |
| 15:05 |
FloLeBlanc |
<joking>e) how can I integrate ste_saints in mm_forum</joking> |
| 15:05 |
s-andersen |
:P |
| 15:05 |
s-andersen |
Unfortunately I can't help you, I have never worked with those areas |
| 15:06 |
Jigal |
FloLeBlanc: <joking>There was a hook made for that in mm_forum I believe.</joking> |
| 15:06 |
FloLeBlanc |
Jigal: hehe |
| 15:09 |
duffster |
hello - i am looking for the info (docs) how can i localisate extensions |
| 15:13 |
FloLeBlanc |
I correct myself on b) - this is already implemented.. wow |
| 15:14 |
FloLeBlanc |
I searched for an option to check the whole time but it just hmm.. works *G* |
| 15:17 |
Jigal |
found the configuration for the search form: tt_content.search.30.dataArray.30.value = L-1 and the search starts in the current page :-) |
| 15:19 |
Jigal |
duffster: you want to add a translation to an existing extension or add localisation support to your own extension? |
| 15:19 |
s-andersen |
FloLeBlanc: Shouldn't a) be straigtforward with the help of the style-changer? |
| 15:20 |
FloLeBlanc |
s-andersen: I thought so, but when I add the marker for the button on top of the template again I only get it once |
| 15:24 |
duffster |
I want to add localisation to an existing extension (e.g. indexed search) |
| 15:25 |
duffster |
Jigal: I want to add localisation to an existing extension (e.g. indexed search) |
| 15:30 |
Jigal |
duffster: most extension have already support for localisation enabled. Basically you only need to add the translations. In locallang.php or locallang.xml files in various (sub)directories you can find the strings that are available for translation. |
| 15:31 |
duffster |
Jigal: i have found for example for macina_search box file localllang.php |
| 15:32 |
Jigal |
duffster: if you added a language to the translations you may want to send the author of the extension a message with your additions, so he/she can include it in a next release. |
| 15:33 |
nd___ |
Any ideas why my decode- and encode-cache is empty when using realUrl? It's enabled in autconf |
| 15:34 |
Jigal |
duffster: if you look inside the file you see the default (English) texts and later on '<it>' => Array( ), for Italian translations, etc. |
| 15:35 |
duffster |
Jigal: in locallang.xml there is <languageKey index="default" type="array"> |
| 15:35 |
Jigal |
duffster: if your language is missing, copy the default block, change 'default' to the two letter code of you language and translate... |
| 15:35 |
duffster |
jigak: so i will just create <langKey index="slovak" type="array"> ? |
| 15:36 |
Jigal |
in locallang.xml each language is in a <languageKey></...> block and the index= attribute holds the language code. |
| 15:36 |
Jigal |
duffster: use two letter language codes |
| 15:36 |
duffster |
Jigal: ok, now i see, i was not sure because of 2 different typ3s of files |
| 15:36 |
duffster |
Jigal: thanks a lot! |
| 15:37 |
Jigal |
duffster: make sure you use an editor that can handle UTF-8 :-) |
| 15:38 |
duffster |
Jigal: of course, I know that :) |
| 15:39 |
Jigal |
duffster: and search in subdirectories too; most of the time there are locallang files in various directories (pi1 often has a seperate file, etc.) |
| 15:43 |
d^c^k |
hi. i'm currently working with typo3 version: 4.1.5 and trying to establish an online shop with the extension commerce version 0.9.4... has anybody some experiences with commerce? i would like to have a drop-down selection box for my articles in the product-single-view. anybody an idea how to realize it? |
| 16:24 |
uriahhee1 |
KILL MICROSOFT |
| 16:24 |
uriahhee1 |
sorry, just needed to... |
| 16:24 |
Denyerec |
Heh |
| 16:24 |
Denyerec |
IE bug? |
| 16:24 |
uriahheep |
nope |
| 16:24 |
Denyerec |
Ooh |
| 16:24 |
uriahheep |
OUTLOOK 2007!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:24 |
Denyerec |
Hahaha |
| 16:24 |
N33D |
IE6 owns.. :P |
| 16:24 |
Denyerec |
"The other reason" |
| 16:24 |
FloLeBlanc |
uriahheep: did they kill your capslock key? |
| 16:24 |
FloLeBlanc |
or what is the reason for shouting here :) |
| 16:25 |
uriahheep |
seriously.... what the HELL were they thinking when they made it use the MS WORD 2007 HTML RENDERING ENGINE to render html mail!!!?!!?!!?!!!?!? |
| 16:25 |
Denyerec |
Hahahahahahahahaha |
| 16:25 |
Denyerec |
Yes, been there. |
| 16:25 |
uriahheep |
i'm NOT going to fix that. |
| 16:26 |
uriahheep |
i'm going to have a big fat message at the top of the html mail saying "If you use Microsoft Outlook 2007, then you are doomed. Please visit this page to view the newsletter correctly:" |
| 16:26 |
FloLeBlanc |
I'm going to take a sip from my coffee now |
| 16:26 |
uriahheep |
i mean, FFS! their engine doesn't even support background images!!! |
| 16:26 |
FloLeBlanc |
as does yahoo mail neither does gmx... etc. |
| 16:26 |
Denyerec |
I wrestled a script together to render a page out with 100% inline HTML |
| 16:26 |
uriahheep |
umm |
| 16:27 |
Denyerec |
but it didn't work so well |
| 16:27 |
uriahheep |
FloLeBlanc: yes they do... |
| 16:27 |
Denyerec |
needed more work on it |
| 16:27 |
uriahheep |
Denyerec: lol |
| 16:27 |
Denyerec |
it was a solid idea. |
| 16:27 |
uriahheep |
bah |
| 16:27 |
Denyerec |
Take the computerd styles, dump them all to inline HTML, save that as the email template. |
| 16:27 |
uriahheep |
i just make a TV template with TV elements made specifically for the newsletter |
| 16:28 |
uriahheep |
it's fantastic |
| 16:28 |
FloLeBlanc |
uriahheep: if you consider all popular webmail clients + the most popular email programs like outlook/thunderbird/etc. you have a ton of "do nots" there is a whole document on this don't remember who gave it to me in this channel |
| 16:28 |
Denyerec |
how do you deal with the CSS though? |
| 16:28 |
uriahheep |
no css :P |
| 16:28 |
uriahheep |
i just have a few style="whatever:whatever;" params in the code |
| 16:29 |
uriahheep |
FloLeBlanc: hmm... well, background images wasn't one of them, i'm pretty sure of that... |
| 16:29 |
Denyerec |
I'd love to see how that works out. |
| 16:29 |
uriahheep |
FloLeBlanc: i mean, if you want to have a good newsletter design at all then you need to use bg images |
| 16:30 |
FloLeBlanc |
uriaheep: if you test against gmx, yahoo, etc. you are sure to find a ton of styles/tags that are not supported, it's not just like ms is the only "devil" out there |
| 16:31 |
uriahheep |
FloLeBlanc: bah, well, gmail hotmail yahoo outlook2k3 thunderbird and this weid sun webmail all display the newsletter correctly :P |
| 16:31 |
uriahheep |
weird* |
| 16:31 |
FloLeBlanc |
then I'm a very bad designer, we don't use background-images, not sure if amazon is too |
| 16:31 |
uriahheep |
nah |
| 16:31 |
uriahheep |
it's just that html mail designing is the hugest pain in the ass in the world |
| 16:32 |
FloLeBlanc |
I agree with this point |
| 16:32 |
Denyerec |
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/archives/2006/03/a_guide_to_css_support_in_emai.html |
| 16:32 |
FloLeBlanc |
perhaps not THE hugest.. but close |
| 16:32 |
Denyerec |
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/reports/Guide_to_CSS_Support_in_Email_2007.pdf |
| 16:33 |
Denyerec |
Please note the only client with 100% suport is..... |
| 16:33 |
Denyerec |
...THUNDERBIRD |
| 16:33 |
FloLeBlanc |
is this the same client that asks me after every friggin update if I want to install the awful google toolbar? :) |
| 16:34 |
uriahheep |
lol |
| 16:34 |
uriahheep |
seriously? |
| 16:34 |
FloLeBlanc |
I feel like FF does ask me that very often :) |
| 16:34 |
FloLeBlanc |
not sure about TB tbh |
| 16:35 |
FloLeBlanc |
all those microsoft afraid guys will be wondering what happened to them when google starts to take over the world, mark my words :) |
| 16:39 |
FloLeBlanc |
(what should not mean that I support crappy rendering - they should have done that better in O2007 ;)) |
| 16:39 |
uriahheep |
hmmm |
| 16:39 |
uriahheep |
hans reiser guilty. |
| 16:39 |
uriahheep |
damn |
| 16:46 |
fred^^ |
FloLeBlanc hehe, "should have done better" is kind of an understatement :) |
| 16:46 |
N33D |
stupid question... i've got a couple of images ( in diferent elements ) in a page. And want to float them to left, so 3 images will float next to eachother.. but they wont float! i tried to float the image-wrap and the img itself.. somebody? |
| 16:47 |
FloLeBlanc |
fred: hehe... well I'm quite confident with other products they made (VS2008, SQLServer2008, etc.) |
| 16:47 |
N33D |
the reason of different content elements is that it's more easier for editting |
| 16:47 |
N33D |
with links etc |
| 16:48 |
FloLeBlanc |
As I said: I do not want to defend the obviously BAD products they made, I just want to point out that there are very good products they made too imho :) |
| 16:49 |
FloLeBlanc |
n33d: never done that with different elements and not sure if it is possible |
| 16:58 |
Denyerec |
GOogle are evil |
| 16:58 |
Denyerec |
very evil |
| 16:58 |
Denyerec |
and they make me nervous |
| 16:59 |
void |
Denyerec: why? |
| 17:00 |
Denyerec |
They are consuming. |
| 17:00 |
nd___ |
Wasn't there a page with typo3-badges somewhere? |
| 17:00 |
Denyerec |
At a hell of a rtate |
| 17:00 |
Denyerec |
and they're a private company, the natural endgame for which is monopoly |
| 17:00 |
Denyerec |
now they're owned by shareholders, this can never be a good thing. |
| 17:33 |
kozy |
hi, I have problems drag reordering an FCE section. I can drag but it will always go back to the original position |
| 17:34 |
kozy |
It's only in one DS, I ave another that works fine |
| 17:34 |
kozy |
they look the same concerning XML structure |
| 17:35 |
kozy |
could it be an issue with the naming of the fields? |
| 17:36 |
kozy |
here is the DS http://phpfi.com/313304 |
| 17:39 |
kozy |
any ideas? |
| 17:39 |
nd___ |
Does anyone has an idea how to get rid of the target='_top' in the links tt_address produces? I tried to set it to blank, but that didn't change |
| 17:45 |
ct529 |
how good is W3C compliance for typo3 output? |
| 17:45 |
ct529 |
(typo3 4.2 with basic set up) |
| 17:45 |
ct529 |
(and rte running) |
| 17:46 |
nd___ |
Except for the problem i'm having now I found it not that bad |
| 17:50 |
nd___ |
According to tsref typolink.target defaults to '_top'. Apart from questioning why, how do I change it? |
| 17:57 |
ct529 |
how good is W3C compliance for typo3 output? typo3 4.2 + rte, standard set up (and XHTML 1.0 Transitional compliant templates) |
| 18:00 |
void |
ct529: enough. transitional is no prob. with some rte seup you can get even strict |
| 18:02 |
ct529 |
void: thanks! could you please point me out to the documentation concerning this rte setup? I am trying to get a full deployment to be compliant with XHTML 1.0 transitional + IA 508 + aaa. Are you sure the new login box introduced in 4.2 is compliant with XHTML 1.0 transitional? |
| 18:03 |
void |
newloginbox have templates. so even it if not - you can use another template, which are |
| 18:03 |
void |
i did not try felogin yet... |
| 18:03 |
ct529 |
void: yes, I meant felogin |
| 18:06 |
void |
ct529: i do not know a lot about rte setup which should be w3c-compliant.. my usual rte setup gives transitional without probs. but i did not test it well on pasted ms word docs, for example |
| 18:07 |
void |
btw, what is IA 508? is that about accessibility? |
| 18:07 |
ct529 |
void: yes |
| 18:08 |
ct529 |
void: wait |
| 18:08 |
void |
ct529: Denyerec is the accessibility gure here |
| 18:08 |
Denyerec |
Whoa yikes |
| 18:09 |
Denyerec |
Good bloody luck getting a CMS backend to be WAI / IA508 AAA rated |
| 18:09 |
Denyerec |
TBH, you're dead in the water. |
| 18:09 |
ct529 |
void: http://www.section508.gov/ |
| 18:09 |
nd___ |
lol |
| 18:09 |
ct529 |
void: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_accessibility |
| 18:09 |
Denyerec |
The OUTPUT of Typo is as accessible as you care make it |
| 18:10 |
Denyerec |
the backend? Do not let someone with a screenreader load it. You'll kill the poor bastard. |
| 18:10 |
void |
screenreader or that "someone"? |
| 18:12 |
duffster |
Hello. I have a problem. In extenstion manager, i have installed translations (czech and slovak). Not all parts of the typo are translated. Since that moment (installation of translations), i am facing problems - text encoding is broken, when i try to save localised content i get the message: 102: These fields are not properly updated in atabase: (bodytext) Probably value mismatch with fieldtype. |
| 18:12 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: I am trying to have the FE compliant but of course we would need the BE to be compliant soon |
| 18:12 |
duffster |
in db check i found this: There are 1 records pointing to this missing or deleted record; [sys_language][3] |
| 18:12 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: void: it is strange that we (= typo3 community) have not tought about making everything compliant from scratch |
| 18:13 |
void |
duffster: did you set up typo3 properly? with full utf8 support? |
| 18:13 |
ct529 |
void: Denyerec: it is difficult to work with government organisations and state funded schools without accessibility compliant tools |
| 18:13 |
ct529 |
void: yessir! |
| 18:14 |
duffster |
void: yes, anyway it worked fine until i did not try translations in extenstion manager |
| 18:17 |
void |
duffster: strange, really. it is not related |
| 18:18 |
duffster |
void: is there a way how to uninstall translations? |
| 18:19 |
void |
duffster: just delete /l10n/<yourlangcode> directory |
| 18:19 |
ct529 |
void: Denyerec: any nice hints to make everything compliant? |
| 18:20 |
Denyerec |
void - potentially the user ;) |
| 18:20 |
Denyerec |
Frontend accessibility has never been an issue for me |
| 18:20 |
duffster |
void: ok i'll try it |
| 18:20 |
Denyerec |
Just use sensible templates and constructs |
| 18:20 |
Denyerec |
all the usual WAI jazz can be added by typoscript for extensions (Such as nice REL links etc) |
| 18:20 |
Denyerec |
however the BE is a different matter. |
| 18:21 |
Denyerec |
So much Ajaz, so many buttons, a lot of positional context that is impossible to convey in a non-visual sense. |
| 18:21 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: what do you mean with "(Such as nice REL links etc)"? |
| 18:21 |
Denyerec |
rel next, prev, home, index, parent links in the page meta |
| 18:21 |
Denyerec |
useful for google and some browser clients |
| 18:21 |
ct529 |
Ajaz? did you mean s/Ajaz/Ajax? |
| 18:21 |
Denyerec |
Yes I did |
| 18:22 |
duffster |
void: still the same effect ;( |
| 18:22 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: still do not udnerstand .... what has that to do with compliancy? |
| 18:22 |
Denyerec |
the presence or absence of rel linkage doesn't affect WAI compliancy, it's just a nice touch |
| 18:23 |
void |
duffster: do you have forceCharset set to "utf-8" |
| 18:23 |
Denyerec |
but all things such as avoiding low contrast colouring, not including text in images, using shortcut keys in navigation, etc etc can all be implemented with Typo3. |
| 18:23 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: do you know about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_accessibility#United_Kingdom_2? |
| 18:23 |
Denyerec |
Yep |
| 18:24 |
duffster |
void: of course |
| 18:24 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: how do you get round that in the BE? we should have a BE alternative interface with functionality implemented in a more accessible way .... |
| 18:24 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: rel linkage in the FE? are you referring to things like tt_news, for example? |
| 18:25 |
Denyerec |
No, I'm on about standard <head> section rel links. |
| 18:25 |
Denyerec |
You cannot get around the BE's lack of compatibility |
| 18:25 |
Denyerec |
it's "one of those things" |
| 18:26 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: but we will need to have an accessibility compliant BE sooner or later or we will exclude ourselves from a huge market. It would be suicidal. |
| 18:26 |
Denyerec |
I agree. |
| 18:26 |
Denyerec |
For the time being, though, the bulk of the litigation avoidance is to be done on the frontend. |
| 18:26 |
Denyerec |
(As that is the part the general public use) |
| 18:26 |
Denyerec |
the BE, a company can control who accesses that and, for the time being, can work around it. |
| 18:27 |
Denyerec |
However you rightly state that government and educational facilities need accessible BE's |
| 18:27 |
Denyerec |
AFAIk the TYpo3 BE as of 4.2 is "A bit of a bombsite" |
| 18:27 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: yes I agree on FE being a priority. What do you mean by the bombsite thing? |
| 18:27 |
Denyerec |
I believe a lot of the work in 4.2 was to rationalise it and make it more workable from a code perspective. (The BE) |
| 18:28 |
Denyerec |
as 4.1 was messy |
| 18:28 |
Denyerec |
bombsite == messy |
| 18:43 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: yes 4.1 was .... I was wondering if it would be possible create a new be .... like a new skin more than a new be .... reorganised by functions instead of how it is now .... |
| 18:44 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: it could also by a good opportunity to make it accessibility compliant .... |
| 18:44 |
Denyerec |
I am afraid I do not know enough about the BE structure to comment. |
| 18:44 |
Denyerec |
And, according to the boss on the HCI list, I don't know my own name either... |
| 18:44 |
Denyerec |
Go figure ;) |
| 18:45 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: your do not know your own name? what do you mean? |
| 18:46 |
Denyerec |
Don't worry |
| 18:46 |
Denyerec |
it's Jens from the HCI list being snobby with me |
| 18:46 |
void |
Denyerec: how did they know about yours first name? |
| 18:46 |
Denyerec |
wants me to use my full name, which I haven't used in 25 years |
| 18:46 |
Denyerec |
so I'm taking issue with it :) |
| 18:46 |
Denyerec |
Domain reg on sozu.co.uk perhaps ? |
| 18:47 |
Denyerec |
I am forced to use it on legal documents, that is all. |
| 18:51 |
Denyerec |
Certainly not gonna start using it for the sake of the T3 mailling list :D |
| 18:52 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: I had the same issue on another list .... |
| 18:52 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: I think some people have too much time on their hands actually! :D |
| 18:53 |
Denyerec |
I mean I could see his point if I was using the name "RavingMonster" or something |
| 18:53 |
Denyerec |
but Denyer is my name. Heck I didn't even sign up with Denyerec, which is what I normally use online for the sake of continuity! |
| 18:53 |
Denyerec |
Only my mother and grandmother can call me "Matthew", everyone else gets a punch in the neck :> |
| 18:55 |
void |
why do you hate your name so strong? |
| 18:55 |
Denyerec |
Don't like it, and people assume it's biblical, which annoys me. |
| 18:56 |
Denyerec |
For as long as I remember people called me Denyer, or Den. So I grew up "being" that name. So Matt doesn't feel like my name. If someone shouts it in the street, I don't turn around. |
| 18:56 |
void |
don't know about Britain, but here "Den" at 99% of cases means "Denis" |
| 18:57 |
Denyerec |
Yep, here too. |
| 18:57 |
Denyerec |
So I am the 1% ;) |
| 19:01 |
void |
Denyerec: seems that I am ignored at core list |
| 19:02 |
void |
sent reminders on 2 bugs with no answer... |
| 19:02 |
void |
-bugs +RFCs |
| 19:02 |
Denyerec |
Give it time I guess. |
| 19:02 |
Denyerec |
Perhaps your bug is serious? |
| 19:02 |
Denyerec |
no-one likes serious bug |
| 19:02 |
Denyerec |
:) |
| 19:03 |
void |
that's not serious bug. at least 2nd |
| 19:03 |
void |
just not translated label! |
| 19:03 |
void |
another bug about not translated label is already discussed and committed |
| 19:04 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: did you give him /her satsifaction? |
| 19:05 |
Denyerec |
of course not :) |
| 19:06 |
Denyerec |
Unless he wants to become my mother, he will have to call me Denyer like everyone else on this earth :) |
| 19:06 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: good .... :) |
| 19:06 |
Denyerec |
and I'm sure my mum would put up a damn good fight if he tried *that* :) |
| 19:09 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: sorry to go back to typo3 .... but do you have any good hints or a list of modifications to make the rte output XHTML 1.0 struct compliant? void said it was possible |
| 19:11 |
Denyerec |
I still apply Transitional due to the many stupid things a client can do to a site once I leave them to it. |
| 19:11 |
Denyerec |
I'll grab my RTE config for you, one moment. |
| 19:12 |
Denyerec |
http://paste.mootools.net/d1ea8c7a0 |
| 19:12 |
Denyerec |
that's the config I use. |
| 19:12 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: yes, transitional was what I was looking for sorry |
| 19:12 |
Denyerec |
However I am aware that the RTE in 4.2 has changed dramatically and have not yet had chance to look into it. |
| 19:12 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: possibly also ia508 and AAA |
| 19:13 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: thanks! I will compare with mine .... it is not good at all at the moment .... |
| 19:13 |
Denyerec |
That one allows your own CSS in the RTE |
| 19:13 |
Denyerec |
again this is for typo 4.1.x |
| 19:13 |
Denyerec |
I am unaware of how to configure the RTE in 4.2 |
| 19:16 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: yes, I have not started using 4.2 yet .... |
| 19:17 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: how do you call you css? |
| 19:17 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: would you be interested in discussing a compliant and accessible be? |
| 19:17 |
Denyerec |
http://paste.mootools.net/d1ea8c7a0 |
| 19:22 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: thanks for the code .... |
| 19:23 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: is the output also ia508 compliant afaycs :) ? |
| 19:23 |
Denyerec |
A lot depends on the client. |
| 19:23 |
Denyerec |
Afterall, if they fill it with nonsensical shite and don't add proper comments to their image ALT tags, what can you do ? |
| 19:24 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: yes .... talking about firefox + explorer + safary .... |
| 19:24 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: yes, but if the quotes are there at least is a start |
| 19:24 |
Denyerec |
AFAIK the output will be OK. |
| 19:24 |
ct529 |
Denyerec: we should make it compulsory to fill the alt tag actually |
| 19:25 |
Denyerec |
On one system I used recently, I can't rememebr where, if you left a field like that empty and hit save, it wouldn't save but it'd reload with a yellow warning box |
| 19:25 |
Denyerec |
however it was just that, a warning. |
| 19:25 |
Denyerec |
If you hit save a second time it would save with the empty entry |
| 19:51 |
uriahheep |
has anyone here ever done a printer friendly version of a page with templavoila? |
| 19:51 |
uriahheep |
Denyerec: have you? |
| 19:51 |
just2b |
it is all just a additonal css file ^ |
| 19:52 |
Denyerec |
I just did it via CSS |
| 19:52 |
Denyerec |
didn't bother with "print" links |
| 19:53 |
uriahheep |
hmmm, ok |
| 19:53 |
uriahheep |
well, i'm trying to do it with print links ;P |
| 19:54 |
uriahheep |
do i need to set anything special up for it to work? |
| 20:07 |
kozy |
can somebody tell me how to use content from FCE fields in typoscript? |
| 20:07 |
kozy |
I'd like to take content from child pages in some sort of a summary on their parent |
| 20:08 |
uriahheep |
just2b: have you ever made a printer friendly template with TV? |
| 20:09 |
uriahheep |
just2b: like, an extra TO, just like here? http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_ftb1/1.0.1/view/1/3/#id3044217 |
| 20:15 |
xsebi |
sa_print can print with its own layout template , grabbing content |
| 20:19 |
uriahheep |
xsebi: but, there is also a printer-friendly version functionality included in typo3, is there not? |
| 20:20 |
just2b |
just2b != tv |
| 20:20 |
xsebi |
uh:i dont know |
| 20:20 |
uriahheep |
heheh |
| 20:20 |
uriahheep |
k |
| 20:20 |
uriahheep |
just2b: why don't you use TV? :P |
| 20:24 |
just2b |
i like the colss ;) espcially for ts things |
| 20:40 |
uriahheep |
:) |
| 20:59 |
mikeH |
can anyone help me w/ some FE User Reg issues ... i'm new to typo ... i have it all setup .. just some config problems |
| 21:09 |
ct529 |
a stupid off topic question: do you know if it is possible to point all the subdomains of your domain to your server on the dns? |
| 21:10 |
ct529 |
maybe using wildcards like: *.domain.org to have all the subdomains redirected to the same server as domain .org |
| 21:12 |
dokma |
mikeH: why don't you say what the prob is |
| 21:14 |
koomi |
lo |
| 21:21 |
mikeH |
2 problems -- 1st on login, the page redirects to another page ... where is the config var for this? |
| 21:22 |
mikeH |
2nd -- What about logout ... i can't find anything in the docs regarding this |
| 21:22 |
koomi |
mikeH: which plugin did you use? did you check the config/settings? |
| 21:23 |
mikeH |
FE User Registration |
| 21:23 |
mikeH |
Yes i looked ... there is a redirect var - but only if the user is automatically logged in on registration confirmation |
| 21:23 |
mikeH |
on the logout i went through the docs and googled around /// nothing |
| 21:45 |
uriahheep |
void: ping? |
| 21:45 |
void |
pong |
| 21:46 |
uriahheep |
void: :) |
| 21:46 |
uriahheep |
void: do you know if it's possible to put [globalVar GP:L = 1] inside a TV DS's TS? |
| 21:47 |
uriahheep |
void: actually, i need to put [globalVar GP:print > 0] |
| 21:47 |
uriahheep |
oh wait, no |
| 21:47 |
uriahheep |
< 1 |
| 21:47 |
uriahheep |
:P |
| 21:50 |
void |
not sure |
| 21:50 |
void |
i tried and failed |
| 21:50 |
uriahheep |
hmm.. |
| 21:50 |
uriahheep |
same here |
| 21:50 |
uriahheep |
:( |
| 21:51 |
void |
but maybe you are more lucky |
| 21:51 |
uriahheep |
do you think there might be a way to do this, though? |
| 21:51 |
void |
yes... with .if's, .data's and .equal's |
| 21:52 |
uriahheep |
really? |
| 21:52 |
void |
explain what do you want to do |
| 21:52 |
uriahheep |
i can check if &print=1 is in the url like that? |
| 21:52 |
uriahheep |
i just want to change stuff in a flexible content element that i made in TV if the user is viewing the printer friendly version of the page :P |
| 21:53 |
void |
there is a special way to do that |
| 21:53 |
uriahheep |
hmm, how? |
| 21:54 |
void |
did you read FTB tutorial carefully? |
| 21:54 |
uriahheep |
void: well, yeah |
| 21:54 |
uriahheep |
void: i've donethat already |
| 21:54 |
void |
there was an example for &print=1 |
| 21:54 |
uriahheep |
void: but that requires one to use the same DS for both TO's |
| 21:54 |
uriahheep |
void: and i have some TS in the TO that i need to change :S |
| 21:55 |
void |
so.. |
| 21:58 |
uriahheep |
void: well, i need to figure out how to get the TS be different for the printer-friendly TO |
| 21:58 |
uriahheep |
to be different* |
| 21:59 |
void |
hm.. can you write both versions and then paste them to somewhere? |
| 22:00 |
uriahheep |
void: yeah |
| 22:00 |
uriahheep |
void: http://pastebin.ca/1002143 |
| 22:01 |
uriahheep |
void: basically that's what i'm trying to do, but it isn't working... the [globalVar] part gets ignored |
| 22:02 |
void |
so, you need to get 10 = IMAGE for usual condition, and 10 = TEXT for print version, right? |
| 22:02 |
uriahheep |
yeah |
| 22:04 |
void |
http://pastebin.ca/1002149 |
| 22:05 |
uriahheep |
thanks, i'll try this |
| 22:08 |
uriahheep |
void: perfect! :) thanks, man! |
| 22:08 |
void |
=) |
| 22:15 |
uriahheep |
void: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=7646 |
| 22:15 |
uriahheep |
void: have you tried the patch in there yet? |
| 22:15 |
uriahheep |
void: or do you have no need for it? :P |
| 22:15 |
void |
still use FF2 |
| 22:15 |
uriahheep |
ah, ok, cool :P |
| 22:35 |
mikeH |
anyone know how to configure the post login redirect in the extenstin 'FE User Registration' --- Been looking for almost 4 hours trying to fix |
| 22:41 |
FoBunko |
mikeH: get prepared to be looking for 4 days when working with typo ;) |
| 22:42 |
mikeH |
yeah... i've figured this much ... good idea bad documentation |
| 22:50 |
FoBunko |
mikeH: well... exts have poor documentation, yes |
| 22:50 |
FoBunko |
have you looked in the TS setups ? (I've never used that ext btw so I don't know the solution) |
| 22:53 |
mikeH |
yes ... there's one there for a redirect if you autologin after confirmation but no redirect VAR for just a plain old login |
| 22:54 |
mikeH |
is there a better way to handle subscriptions and logins? |
| 23:02 |
FoBunko |
dunno, never did self-registration. |
| 23:02 |
FoBunko |
;) |
| 23:03 |
FoBunko |
but for login, try newloginbox |
| 23:03 |
FoBunko |
it sends only MD5 passes as far as I recall |
| 23:20 |
mikeH |
i'm using newloginbox... sorry i'm really new to typo ... still can't figure out the login though |
| 23:20 |
mikeH |
or logout i meant |
| 23:28 |
dokma |
mikeH: figure out which part? |
| 23:28 |
dokma |
guys any of you here doing a lot of site copying ? |
| 23:29 |
dokma |
as in having one starter version which you copy every time you start a new site ? |
| 23:34 |
dokma |
guys any recommendations for a replacement to tt_products |
| 23:34 |
dokma |
seems like everyone thinks it's a mess |
| 23:35 |
Denyerec |
there's commerce... |
| 23:35 |
Denyerec |
and KraftB is working on something cool |
| 23:36 |
void |
Denyerec: yet another "something cool"? |
| 23:36 |
Denyerec |
heh yeah :) |
| 23:37 |
Denyerec |
He's writing a shop, but it's more of a build-your-own-templated-anything system |
| 23:37 |
void |
btw, is kb_shop dead? |
| 23:37 |
Denyerec |
I hope not, that's what he's supposed to be working on! :) |
| 23:37 |
void |
last time when i looked on, it was really ugly at programmer's point of view |
| 23:38 |
void |
i'd not use such ext in production |
| 23:41 |
Denyerec |
He's supposedly working on it, but I can't say where he's up to. |
| 23:41 |
Denyerec |
Like most of us, he more than likely got distracted trying to pay the bills! |
| 23:50 |
mikeH |
dokma: what do you mean 'which part?' |
| 23:50 |
dokma |
mikeH> i'm using newloginbox... sorry i'm really new to typo ... still can't figure out the login though |
| 23:51 |
dokma |
Denyerec: what's your favourite shop these days? |
| 23:51 |
Denyerec |
For Typo3 I have still not implemented one. |
| 23:52 |
Denyerec |
Outside of typo3 I used to be forced to use CubeCart and Zencart by an evil client, but now I think I want to use Magento |
| 23:53 |
void |
Denyerec: magento... magento is good. but it really should be adapted, translated, etc, etc |
| 23:54 |
void |
there is a long way to production.. |
| 23:54 |
Denyerec |
You mean it is a long way from being suitable for deployment/ |
| 23:54 |
Denyerec |
? |
| 23:55 |
mikeH |
dokma did you used to work for GCN? |
| 23:55 |
nature |
:) |
| 23:55 |
void |
Denyerec: yes |
| 23:55 |
nature |
denyer did too! |
| 23:55 |
dokma |
not that much |
| 23:55 |
dokma |
did he? |
| 23:55 |
dokma |
hehe |
| 23:55 |
Denyerec |
Did I ? |
| 23:55 |
nature |
didn't you? |
| 23:55 |
dokma |
nature :) |
| 23:55 |
Denyerec |
Might have helped out... |
| 23:55 |
Denyerec |
You're not alone |
| 23:55 |
nature |
well... yeah, that |
| 23:55 |
mikeH |
it's a reunion |
| 23:56 |
Denyerec |
void - that is a great shame. Magento is far better than any other OSS cart / shop I have yet used. |
| 23:56 |
nature |
logging out can't be that hard, can it? ;) |
| 23:56 |
void |
Denyerec: maybe, maybe... |
| 23:56 |
mikeH |
you would think |
| 23:58 |
dokma |
I like what I see on Magento presentation |
| 23:58 |
Denyerec |
Well, ZC, CC and OSC all suck monkeyballs. |
| 23:58 |
void |
Denyerec: but i think that each e-shop which is big enough should be built on framework instead of customizing some product |
| 23:58 |
dokma |
wouldn't it be great to integrate it into TYPO3 ? |
| 23:58 |
Denyerec |
Magento is Zend Framework |
| 23:58 |
void |
Denyerec: Zend Framework is shit |
| 23:58 |
dokma |
oh |
| 23:58 |
Denyerec |
Hehe |
| 23:58 |
Denyerec |
Well, I'm glad I got your opinion on it Void :D |
| 23:59 |
mikeH |
i agree void ... i'm a big fan of codeigniter and sometimes cake |
| 23:59 |
Denyerec |
I am helping a university student write one in Ruby |
| 23:59 |
Denyerec |
if we pull off what we're trying to pull off, then it will be amazingly awesome. |
| 23:59 |
mikeH |
learning ruby at the moment...slowly |
| 23:59 |
Denyerec |
If we don't, then it'll be a spectacular ball of code. |
| 23:59 |
void |
hehe.. one guy from russian t3 community tried to integrate Limb framework into typo3 |
| 23:59 |
Denyerec |
Messy, dysfunctional coded. |
| 23:59 |
Denyerec |
See I had this grand, overarching idea that was complicated enough for this guy to base his university project on. |
