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00:00 Denyerec Which if we can execute it well enough, should make for a really, really nice core system.
00:00 Denyerec However the potential for failure is massive.
00:15 nature anyone know how to get fe user to redirect to a page after login/logout?
00:16 Denyerec Should be able to.
00:16 Denyerec I know I did.
00:16 nature :)
00:16 nature should be able to do a lot of things
00:16 Denyerec But then I'm not sure I was using the default fe login extension
00:16 nature heh heh
00:16 Denyerec I think I was using Macmade
00:16 Denyerec HAH, so true.
00:50 Denyerec hey void you there/
00:50 Denyerec ?
00:51 Denyerec Turns out my name isn't good enough for the mailling list:
00:51 Denyerec Well, then you can be ignored in this and other groups...
00:51 Denyerec http://typo3.org/community/mailing-lists/mailing-list-rules-guidelines/
00:51 Denyerec "...Names - please use your real name - we're a friendly list that likes to know whom we're talking!.."
00:51 Denyerec Response from The One and Only Dmitry Dupelov
00:52 void Denyerec: i read that in newsreader
00:52 Denyerec So silly of them
00:52 Denyerec I am not going to respond, simply keep contributing using my name.
00:54 void Denyerec: why not describe your exception?
00:54 Denyerec I thought I did...
00:55 Denyerec I have seen that Dmitry is not someone who is... susceptible to arguement.
00:55 Denyerec So I shall not bother, and simply carry on regardless.
00:58 void hm.. Dmitry.. you need to find good analogy
00:59 void say that Matthew for you sounds like "Vladlen" or "Dozdraperma"... maybe he can understand that
01:05 nd____ the hci discussion right here? nice
01:05 nd____ Live and direct... irc
01:05 dokma Denyerec, void: any of you guys has access to a typo3 installed on a win platform?
01:06 void dokma: me
01:06 void dokma: but only 4.1...
01:06 dokma could you do me a favour and see how my ext behaves on it?
01:06 void yes
01:06 Denyerec What do Vladlen and Dozdraperma mean ?
01:06 dokma siteclone
01:07 dokma Denyerec: where'd you find those words?
01:07 dokma I can't even guess the language
01:08 void Denyerec: there was a trend at USSR to use such names. Vladlen means Vladimir Lenin, Dozdraperma = Da zdravstvujet permoe maja
01:08 void Denyerec: of course, people with such names usually don't like them
01:08 nd____ What's the latter?
01:09 void nd____: ?
01:09 nd____ What's `Da zdravstvujet permoe maja`?
01:09 void ah, translation?
01:09 nd____ yes
01:09 nd____ My russion is a bit, well, rusty...
01:10 Denyerec Mine's non-existant
01:10 Denyerec beyond nyet and da ;)
01:10 Denyerec Oh and Comrade.
01:10 void hm.. trying to translate..
01:10 nd____ like I didn't learn it yet... but well, there's a time for everything in life.
01:10 Denyerec hehe
01:10 Denyerec Like calling your child Adolph or Josef?
01:10 nd____ Adolf in this case, but anyway
01:11 Denyerec Ah quite right.
01:11 void at rough: "The Glory of 1st of May"
01:11 nd____ Wow, tough first name then
01:11 void yes, first name
01:12 nd____ Never got the russian naming scheme anyway... made it hart to read the russian books. But again, I will get to it :)
01:13 void nd____: hehe.. and it's difficult for me to get other naming scheme... Erich Maria Remark.. *who* is Maria??
01:13 void =)
01:14 nd____ void: But the second first name is like optional... people tend to leave them out where day can... except for the artists :)
01:14 nd____ And all the people which do not like the first name, so they just switch them.
01:15 void I read a book about names...
01:16 void such westert naming scheme was born because of Saint's names. the more patrons person have, the more simple his life is
01:16 Denyerec Hehehe
01:16 nd____ Right
01:16 dokma void: any luck with my ext ?
01:16 void dokma: installing..
01:16 dokma ok
01:17 void dokma: installed. what should i test?
01:17 dokma it should add a backend module
01:17 dokma it's usage is to clone a site
01:17 void yes, i see
01:17 dokma so you need an empty db and user
01:17 dokma you fill the form press submit and hope for the best
01:21 void dokma: it rustle my HDD..
01:21 dokma that's good
01:21 void dokma: i hope it does not contain "format c:"
01:21 FoBunko your hope was weak then
01:21 dokma hehehe
01:21 FoBunko (hi)
01:21 dokma it's too late now!
01:21 dokma :)
01:22 FoBunko dokma got all your knowledge on your disk
01:22 dokma I hope you didn't start it from some huge site
01:22 dokma cause it is going to make a copy of it
01:22 FoBunko because it's all gone by now ?
01:22 void dokma: it was huge site) my testing site)
01:22 dokma it'll take a while to upload to my machine
01:22 FoBunko dokma: can your plugin make a clone to a remote host ? ;)
01:23 dokma FoBunko: no, not yet
01:23 dokma I tried to be as generic as possible
01:23 FoBunko dokma: I'd be interested in that
01:23 dokma hoping it would run on win without testing
01:23 dokma it'll come
01:23 FoBunko dokma: great ;)
01:23 dokma you can't hope for much in version 0.0.3
01:23 FoBunko tbh I *need* such a thing
01:24 dokma well, for a $100 I can make it till tomorrow midnight
01:24 FoBunko yea yea but I was looking for something like that I use a mac for home server but want to take my thing with me
01:24 FoBunko haha, for $100 I'd made my own ;P
01:24 dokma why when you can pay me ?
01:25 dokma makes no sense
01:25 dokma :)
01:25 FoBunko I rather skip writing it and spend my $100 on hoes
01:25 dokma seems like voids machine crashed
01:25 dokma ungh
01:25 dokma rather skip the hoes
01:25 FoBunko alright, then you can tell us now what it really does
01:26 dokma I preffer the ladies that resist
01:26 dokma well actually it searches the disk for credit card number obviously
01:26 FoBunko I also prefer ext makers who resist but do it for free hahaha
01:27 dokma well you do have an edge
01:27 dokma if you php is as good as your mouth
01:27 FoBunko nuh, I need the money and time for hoes
01:27 dokma you're a darn good programmer
01:27 FoBunko nope I'm a beginner ;)
01:27 void no... i wait when max_execution_time exceeds
01:27 void i forgot what i set
01:27 dokma spent too much time practising on the ladies?
01:28 void 3 mins or 5 mins
01:28 FoBunko void: :)
01:28 dokma void: it's still working?
01:28 dokma duh
01:28 void yes
01:28 dokma on my machine it would end in about a minute
01:28 FoBunko would it end or would it finish ? :P
01:29 dokma it would succeed
01:29 void Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 600 seconds exceeded in Z:\home\void\www\41\typo3conf\ext\siteclone\mod1\index.php on line 392
01:29 dokma great
01:29 dokma let me check that line
01:29 FoBunko set that max time then and give a warning if it can't
01:29 dokma khm
01:29 void dokma: did you just copy DB?
01:30 dokma it failed on is_link
01:30 dokma are win compatible with that func?
01:30 void dunno
01:30 dokma it copies the filesystem first
01:30 dokma at least it tries
01:30 dokma how much of the files did it copy?
01:30 FoBunko make it zipped
01:30 FoBunko when you implement remote it will come handy ;)
01:30 void dokma: yes, i see a part
01:31 dokma yeah, will have to do that
01:31 dokma hmmm... did the disk crunching stop long before the max execution time came?
01:31 void no
01:32 dokma well I can't believe it failed to copy the files in 5 minutes
01:32 dokma how big is that site of yours?
01:32 void dokma: one sec..
01:32 FoBunko it's his warez site
01:32 dokma that's 10 minutes actually
01:32 FoBunko tbs of stuff
01:32 dokma yeah, seems like it
01:33 void dokma: original is 400 Mb, cloned is 200 Mb
01:33 dokma dog
01:33 dokma that is a lot
01:33 Denyerec LOL
01:33 Denyerec damn
01:33 void 221 extension
01:33 Denyerec You hosting wikipedia.ru ?
01:34 Denyerec ;)
01:34 dokma well...
01:34 dokma at least I found a limit on the copy
01:34 void Denyerec: not yet )
01:34 dokma what speed is your machine?
01:34 void 2Hz Core Duo, 1Gb of memory
01:34 dokma sata ?
01:35 void yes
01:35 dokma well that's craty
01:35 FoBunko 2hz is pretty slow. we've long been in the mhz era
01:35 dokma it should've chewed it to pieces
01:35 dokma yeah
01:35 dokma that might be it
01:35 dokma cpu upgrade is imminent
01:35 FoBunko void: was it a local copy?
01:35 FoBunko I mean both FS are on that machine ?
01:36 Denyerec Hahaha
01:36 Denyerec It *is* Russia.
01:36 void FoBunko: yes, FS is NTFS
01:36 void Denyerec: what?
01:36 Denyerec nm ;)
01:37 dokma yeah, piston would be more in the spirit of humor
01:37 void ah, you think that's too slow?
01:37 FoBunko no, it must be the extension. :)
01:37 dokma let me install it on my company site
01:38 void dokma: important note: whole site is an SVN, so there are a lot of .svn folders
01:38 dokma 271MB on Pentium III 800MHz
01:38 FoBunko void: you must have a lot of files and fragmantation IHB
01:38 dokma and see how that copes with it
01:38 void *an = at
01:38 dokma ahhh
01:38 dokma I see
01:38 dokma that probably indicates a lot of small files
01:38 FoBunko no you can't see
01:38 dokma which should degrade performance
01:39 FoBunko dokma: how are you copying files ?
01:39 FoBunko fopen/read/write ?
01:40 FoBunko he doesn't want to tell
01:41 void i think, tar+copy/cp -R is far more quick
01:41 dokma void: sure is
01:41 dokma but on win ?
01:41 dokma does not sound very portable
01:41 void win have an "copy" command
01:41 FoBunko yup that's what I was thinking about
01:42 FoBunko not portable at all. unless you specify the command line in TS haha
01:42 dokma void: but how would you make sure that web server has the privileges to execute those ?
01:42 dokma I might make it optional
01:42 dokma if web server can use it
01:42 dokma do it
01:42 FoBunko good point
01:42 void +1
01:42 FoBunko no. ask the user ;)
01:42 dokma if not, revert to the vanilla php copy
01:43 dokma FoBunko: you think it's not possible to detect it?
01:43 FoBunko dokma: I think it's possible but some users may prefer this or that
01:43 FoBunko so I'd go for a command line setup
01:43 dokma I see
01:44 dokma my intention was to make this as simple as possible
01:44 FoBunko then they can specify swithes for the symlinks as well
01:44 dokma but on a second thought people cloning sites are probably not newbies
01:44 dokma that's true
01:44 FoBunko and on a third thought getting the user fill the command line is simpler than detecting :)
01:45 FoBunko you can still supply default(s)
01:45 dokma Got a packet bigger than 'max_allowed_packet' bytes.
01:45 dokma when trying to copy my company site
01:45 dokma crap
01:45 FoBunko man you really need a packet calculator
01:46 Denyerec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KUqlVamgy0&feature=related ROFL :D
01:46 FoBunko does it have pistons or valves in it ?
01:47 Denyerec no, but a rare example of germans being funny ;)
01:47 FoBunko it must be fake then
01:48 Denyerec hahahaha
01:49 Denyerec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv8icJf8mjk
01:49 FoBunko wot book ?
01:49 void "restful web services"
01:50 FoBunko :D gr8.
01:51 void 56 kbytes..
01:51 FoBunko ffs I converted my selects to groups just to find it will show the raw UID in record title ! ? ......
01:54 FoBunko void: any suggestion ?
01:54 void ['ctrl']['title']?
01:54 FoBunko label, sorry
01:55 FoBunko so in BE the record list for each record shows the uid and not the linked record's field value
01:55 FoBunko worked fine with select
01:56 void dunno
01:56 void too much want to sleep
01:56 FoBunko or can I force the user to choose something else than the blank item (which I add with $items) in a select ?
01:56 void and will sleep for 4 hours for 2nd time :(
01:56 FoBunko go then sweet dreams
02:00 Denyerec gn chaps
02:00 dokma night
02:00 Denyerec I shall shuffle off to my nameless bed
02:00 Denyerec :)
02:00 dokma same here
02:01 FoBunko weaklings
03:01 jsfan hello everyone :)
03:01 jsfan it's good to be back :0
03:01 jsfan :)
03:18 gerards hi jsfan, were you away?
03:18 gerards :D
03:18 jsfan kinda
03:18 gerards still in oz?
03:18 jsfan nice to find out that nobody missed me :(
03:18 jsfan yup
03:18 gerards where did you go?
03:18 jsfan and u? still in...um...singapore(?)
03:18 gerards good memory.
03:19 jsfan oh, was just that my lpatop was being repaired and i didn't bother putting an irc client on the computer i then used...
03:19 jsfan latop
03:19 jsfan laptop...
03:19 gerards ah.
03:20 gerards well no one missed you.
03:20 gerards :)
03:29 titii helo there
03:29 titii somebody get used the yaml CSS framework with TYPO3?
04:16 jsfan gerards, i reckon i won't come back then. if there is that little appreciation for my presence... :(
04:16 gerards hahaa!
04:17 gerards i appreciate it. we're the only 2 around these days.
04:17 gerards no one missed me when I was gone either :D
04:40 jsfan ;)
04:40 jsfan actually i don't make it in here more than once or twice a week, anyway
04:41 jsfan but then again typo3 only makes me money once or twice a week...
07:58 void[sleep] hi guys
07:58 swemark good morning
07:59 void swemark: i have an off-topic question, but maybe you know. i need to know place where book was published by its isbn
07:59 void swemark: do you know how can i know that?
07:59 swemark hmm
07:59 swemark not much of a reader
07:59 swemark ill ask google
07:59 void i did that already
08:01 swemark http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_find_a_book
08:02 swemark void: http://isbndb.com/
08:07 void seems that i found that. California.
08:07 swemark cool
08:19 nd____ gmorning...
08:28 swemark Hello Ammler
08:51 Denyerec Greetings from the nameless one!
09:04 FloLeBlanc hi all
09:18 ndee hi there, can I somehow turn the <div>-wrapping off for a single frontend plugin?
09:24 ndee hey maholtz, aren't you a ts-guru? :D
09:42 maholtz @ndee: i work on that;)
09:43 maholtz @ndee: what do you need?
09:48 ndee maholtz: can I somehow turn the <div>-wrapping off for a single frontend plugin?
09:48 ndee be back in 30 minutes
09:51 ndee that <div class="tx_iclangmenu_pi1"> wrapping
09:53 foool hi all - I have a problem with mootools - it is giving me a javascript error. Anyone else had this problem?
09:56 s-andersen Can someone tell me how I wrap each CE with <div class="something"></div> in a column created by TV
10:08 FloLeBlanc hmm is there a way to limit users to certain tt_news categories when they create news?
10:08 FloLeBlanc (be_users)
10:17 maholtz @flo: if your system is up to date yes - there is something in the docs about that
10:17 s-andersen FloLeBlanc: http://ben.vantende.net/t3docs/tt-news/page/9/
10:18 FloLeBlanc thank you
10:19 maholtz @ndee: i would say no if it there is no typoscript flag to disable that - but i would be wrong - there is a stdWrap function called substring
10:19 FloLeBlanc damn I have 2.4.0 :)
10:21 maholtz @ndee: .substring = 20,-5 should work, but you need something with stdWrap feature - plugin has afaik not
10:21 maholtz @ndee: so you would have to put the plugin into an COA perhaps and then work with .stdWrap.substring
10:22 pulponair hi there
10:23 FloLeBlanc hi pulp
10:32 s-andersen Argh, don't you just hate it when you have a problem, that you KNOW others must have had, but can't find a solution anywhere
10:32 FloLeBlanc can anyone give me feedback/recommendations on gallery extensions?
10:32 FloLeBlanc s-andersen: who doesn't :) what's yours?
10:32 FloLeBlanc ah the wrap each CE hmm
10:32 s-andersen FloLeBlanc: mm, and it's so easy to do, when not using TemplaVoila
10:33 FloLeBlanc never worked with TV yet sorry
10:35 s-andersen Lucky you ;)
10:35 FloLeBlanc hehe
10:37 s-andersen A simple renderObj on RECORDS type would be nice, but it doesn't seem like you can use renderObj on that type
10:39 SebastianB hello
10:39 SebastianB can anyone quickly tell me how i can search for links to pages within typo3?
10:39 SebastianB for example, links within content elements
10:46 maholtz @s-andersen: there is a "renderObj" called conf.TABLENAME
10:46 s-andersen maholtz: Do you have an example of that?
10:49 Phlogi_ FloLeBlanc: what are you looking for?
10:49 FloLeBlanc an alternative to jm_gallery if there is one. I'm not that confident with it
10:50 maholtz @s-andersen: have an look at the tsref - RECORDS
10:50 maholtz conf.tt_content = COA
10:50 maholtz conf.tt_content.10 = TEXT
10:50 maholtz conf.tt_content.10.field = bodytext
10:50 maholtz never did it myself, but should work
10:51 s-andersen maholtz: My problem is quite simple. I want to wrap every CE with a <div class="">, the way I have solved it now, it only works for text-objects, not text w/pic and others.
10:52 s-andersen If I define conf.tt_content it will overrule the tt_content object?
10:53 maholtz yep
10:54 s-andersen So that's not what I want, because that would give me the same problem that I have right now.
10:55 ndee so is there a standard wrap for a COA?
10:56 s-andersen My original solution was to use a CONTENT object instead of RECORDS. The only problem was that it would also render deleted and hidden object, dispite that I defined andWhere = deleted=0, and andWhere = hidden=0
10:56 foool I have a problem with mootools - it is giving me a javascript error. Anyone else had this problem?
10:59 ndee maholtz: so lib.menulang.stdWrap.substring = 20,-5 ?
11:01 maholtz @ndee: menulang is from wich object? HMENU?
11:01 ndee maholtz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8867/
11:04 ndee but that puts a <div class="blabla"> around the whole <div class="tx_iclangmenu_pi1"> again
11:07 s-andersen maholtz: Do you know why this doesn't work in TV DS? http://phpfi.com/313468
11:17 maholtz @ndee: i would test this: lib.menulang.stdWrap.substring = 20,-5
11:17 maholtz @s-andersen: is there a conten element on that page?
11:18 s-andersen maholtz: There are several content-elements on the page, the problem is that it also displays those that are deleted
11:19 maholtz delete that: andWhere=deleted=0 (it should be done autmatically)
11:19 s-andersen It isn't done automatically
11:20 s-andersen I'm in the DataStructure of TV, and for some reason that makes normal TS behavoiur go nuts
11:21 maholtz ok, do not use Tv
11:22 s-andersen Damn, you are also one of the lucky ones :D
11:23 maholtz :) - perhaps test : 10.select.pidInList = this
11:23 maholtz (is set by default, perhaps not in TV?)
11:32 s-andersen nope maholtz that didn't do it. I guess I just let it be like it is now
11:32 mosez hum... the typo3 database sucks...
11:34 maholtz @s-andersen: *wondering* - you are right - than you should include hidden and perhaps start and stop
11:34 maholtz user rights... could not be used than to...
11:34 mosez i want to move the database. but i can not dump the old one because it's not utf8
11:34 maholtz i cant believe that it does not work
11:38 ndee maholtz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8879/ <-- the problem is when I change something in the stdwrap, it changes it in the CONTENT ELEMENT part and not in the extension part, if that made any sense.
11:39 maholtz @s-andersen: i think you should ask in a newsgroup
11:42 maholtz @ndee: do you want the comments? config.disablePrefixComment = 1 and please paste the typoscript too
11:45 ndee maholtz: actually, I don't care about the comments but I turned them off for now. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8882/ <-- I just wanna get rid of the <div class="tx-iclangmenu-pi">
11:46 mosez ah, dumping like http://www.typo3-jack.net/typo3-german-lists-netfielders-de/11364-typo3-german-umstellung-utf-8-a.html works for me
11:46 mosez now i've got to import it only
11:47 ndee maholtz: you ARE the TS guru, got it :D
11:48 ndee maholtz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8884/ <-- that's the final TS, it's ugly but yeah.
11:49 crisb2010 hi there
11:50 maholtz @ndee: yep, really ugly :))
11:50 crisb2010 i want all my links to pdf files to open in a new window. do i really have to check every link now or is there a way to do this automagically?
11:50 ndee maholtz: it would be easier if there would be an easy way to disable those divs :)
11:53 maholtz @ndee: yep, but if the extension does not have such an config - it is not possible - pi_wrapInBaseClass is an method from class.tslib_pibase.php have an look at it
11:59 ndee maholtz: but how could I configure it in my own extension? How can I tell my own extension that I don't need those <divs>
12:02 ndee I just added an entry to my locallang.xml and I get this error: The file "/www/emilfreybeta/typo3conf/ext/ic_cardb/pi2/locallang.xml" is no TYPO3 language file! what the heck is that?
12:03 ndee I just hope it's no typo3 4.2 bug.
12:03 mosez how did i get the current domain on typo3 setup?
12:03 mosez is there a ts var?
12:05 maholtz @ndee: you only get that, if you return your content via $this->pi_wrapInBaseClass($content);
12:05 ct529 hi!
12:05 ct529 Denyerec:
12:06 ndee maholtz: how else can I return the content then?
12:06 ndee just return $content?
12:06 ndee ok, I'm an idiot haha
12:10 ct529 I would like to implement a multi language site. For each page there needs to be a copy for each language and a button on the top right (de,en,es,fr and so forth). By clicking on the button you can change the language for the page. Is that possible?
12:20 ndee can I somehow reopen a bug on bugs.typo3.org?
12:24 mosez thx for the awnser :(
12:27 mosez i only want to get the current domain name within a condition :(
12:28 maholtz @mosex: have an look in the tsref
12:29 mosez maholtz: but i cant find the var i'm searching for
12:29 mosez i'm looking at the ref
12:31 maholtz search for getIndpEnv
12:32 mosez maholtz: thx
12:35 maholtz @mosez: np - please be more patient next time - the most people here are working - it is not possible to have an look here every houre (for me) - perhaps ask again a few hours later then - thanks:)
12:35 mosez i'm working too :)
12:42 ct529 I would like to implement a multi language site. For each page there needs to be a copy for each language and a button on the top right (de,en,es,fr and so forth). By clicking on the button you can change the language for the page. Is that possible?
12:44 mosez ct529: for me it's working with realurl and bb_languageselect ;)
12:45 ct529 mosez: I understood you did not need any additional extension.
12:47 mosez ct529: you dont really need a extension. but realurl generates nice speaking urls. and bb_languageselect makes it simple to get a extension for simple language switching
12:47 mosez the urls results in something like this: http://ipe-newpage.boerger.dev.ipx.de/de/none/unternehmen/unser_business.html and http://ipe-newpage.boerger.dev.ipx.de/en/none/company/news/overview.html
12:47 Recnelis Is there any major difference for a normal websites and for the users with Typo3 4.2?
12:48 mosez oh, wrong links =)
12:48 void Recnelis: remade backend, increased perfomance
12:48 mosez /de/unternehmen/unser_business.html and /en/company/our_business.html
12:49 mosez ct529: and i think this could be much nicer then the simple aliases of typo3
12:50 mosez ct529: but of course you can write everythin on typoscript for your own ;)
12:53 pumatertion ahoi
12:54 pumatertion wrote an extension bases on tt_content (totaly new content element). how do i tell the ext. to show thumbnails of image-field in the page module, like a normal contentelement image?
13:00 pumatertion mhhh
13:02 d^c^k hi. who can help me to create a drop-down-selection für product articles for the commerce-extension? :) has anybody of you done something similar before?
13:03 Recnelis Can anyone show me to a tutorial from which i can learn how to make "Type-fields" - Like if someone chooses Text /w image, the fields avalible change.. I wanna do the same in a extension
13:10 FoBunko with field type 'group' I can select elements fine. but if I use that field as label for records in record lists, I only get the UID number. Is there a way to resulve the UID to its label value ?
13:11 Recnelis Does anyone know why my TT_news archive list isn't working
13:12 pumatertion FoBunko: you can set the label field in the tca array.
13:13 pumatertion think its in the ctrl section. but dont know exactly
13:14 Recnelis Does anyone know why my TT_news archive list isn't working? - I get the list of months and can see how many elements are in each month.. but nothing happens when I click on the links like "april - 2008: 1 emne"
13:16 FoBunko pumatertion: it's set and works fine with select type. but not with group type
13:18 foool I have a problem with mootools - it is giving me a javascript error. Anyone else had this problem?
13:24 foool or can tell me how to solve it?
13:24 nd____ You might have to tell the error, otherwise it's quite hard for most of us...
13:25 ct529 foool: what error?
13:26 foool hang on
13:30 foool H'mmm firebug doesn't give it this time Grrr!!
13:30 foool I will try it again and see if it works now.
13:30 porkpie_ hey den
13:32 ct529 I would like to implement a multi language site. For each page there needs to be a copy for each language and a button on the top right (de,en,es,fr and so forth). By clicking on the button you can change the language for the page. Is that possible using the typo3 core (no extensions)?
13:32 lola hi
13:33 lola how to make link using typoscript
13:35 void lola: 10 = TEXT, 10.typolink.parameter.data = leveluid:0
13:35 void ^^ example
13:36 lola thanks void
13:36 lola in that leveluid is the query string
13:36 lola and 0 is the value
13:36 lola rgt
13:36 lola \right
13:41 pumatertion anyone has an idea how to render thumbnails in pageview?
13:41 pumatertion my own contenelement doesnt show thumbnails in pagemodule =(
13:44 void lola: no
13:44 void lola: that example will make a link to root page of your website
13:44 void lola: if you want to make external link, second line would be: 10.typolink.parameter = http://typo3.org/
13:45 void pumatertion: did you try to understand how std. image do that?
13:50 Denjerek yo porkpie
13:51 porkpie Yo Den
13:51 porkpie Denjerek: are you busy
13:52 Denjerek eatin lunch so I have 5 mins
13:52 Denjerek register and PM me
13:53 Denjerek porkpie join #denyerec, I can't reg cos I left myself online at home
13:55 ct529 Denjerek: hi there
13:55 Denjerek hey ct
13:57 ct529 Denjerek: still working on compliancy + multi language
13:57 ct529 Denjerek: have yu ever done anything mutli language?
13:59 Denjerek Nope. Looked into HOW to do it, but no client I have ever worked with wants to pay for it
14:04 maholtz @ct529: what do you need - mosez answered your question
14:05 ct529 maholtz: I do not want to use the bb + reaurl extension, just plain typo3 ....
14:05 pumatertion void: no, i dont understand how std. image do that. there is a flag in tca for tt_content crtl. wich says that thumbnail field is the image field. my contentelement shows a thumbnail only in listmode, but not in templavoila or pagemodul =(
14:06 Recnelis Does anyone know why my TT_news archive list isn't working? - I get the list of months and can see how many elements are in each month.. but nothing happens when I click on the links like "april - 2008: 1 emne"
14:06 ct529 maholtz: alos would not mind a good pointer to some good documentation .... I found too much of it, would like to know if there is a GOOD tutorial someone has already used.
14:09 Denjerek hey Ries
14:09 ries hey Denjerek
14:11 maholtz @ct529: TSref - HMENU special language
14:13 maholtz do not know, if an special tutorial is needed? there are some issues, if you would not translate the whole site - but you said you want, so ...
14:14 d^c^k hey ct529 , take a look at this : http://rafb.net/p/Sp8rVY87.html
14:15 d^c^k it is a select box for language switching without any extension
14:19 mosez ct529: google is your friend... http://typo3.org/documentation/tips-tricks/multi-language-sites-in-typo3/
14:22 foool I need to make a glossery in an alphbetical list. Any one got any suggestions of which ext would the best to use?
14:23 d^c^k hey mosez, google is also my friend but i found no solution for an dropdown-selection-menue for product articles of the commerce extension. maybe google likes you more than me...
14:24 d^c^k glossery for what kind of data? for content elements? for tt_news articles ?
14:26 d^c^k foool : http://www.krameralbrecht.de/Referenzen.7.0.html realized with timtab & tagcloud extensions so far i can remember it
14:26 mosez d^c^k: dont know
14:27 d^c^k and i added the alphabetical sort method manually to tagcloud extension but it is quite simple
14:29 Denjerek porkpie_ you there?
14:30 foool Glossary for text and image like in content area. d^c^k
14:32 foool d^c^k simple for you!! hahaha!!
14:34 foool What I want is - A - B - C - d etc at top of page, clickable to the list of A's and so on
14:36 mosez hum... now i've got to write an extension for my lightbox
14:42 porkpie__ Den
14:43 Denjerek what's my name ?
14:44 porkpie__ matt
14:45 crisb2010 hi guys
14:45 crisb2010 is there a way to use habtm relationships with scaffolding (drop down)?
14:46 crisb2010 i saw it in a book (which i don't have in the moment), so is there a link? found nothing on google...
14:50 mosez how can i add attributes to a link within rte? i need the rel="foobar" attribute for some links
14:52 mosez ok, i'm writing it by hand into it
14:53 mosez but how can i chaeck if the request on the page is ajax or not? and if it is ajax i want to display the content of the page without the basic template
15:40 blaab hi. i got a real worry about typo3...its just too confusing for beginners. so i just want to build a page without having any template...so i have to use that "GRMBL" typoscript? why i ask? there must be a more comfortable way like building html pages the normal way
15:41 nd____ blaab: Read the modern templating tutorial
15:41 void blaab: what is "normal" way? use TV wizard -)
15:41 nd____ blaab: Essentially you have to use both html and TS, though you might keep the TS low...
15:41 blaab that doesnt help me...i read that. its filling me with knowledge i dont understand...
15:42 blaab it doenst even explain why i would have to write bla and bla
15:42 blaab i might just miss the one clue that leads me to my fortune ;) but which is it
15:42 nd____ Yes, well, true. But there are loads of other introductions and explanations of TS itself. Combine them to learn it.
15:43 blaab so im not supposed to be able to build a simple page with a navigator and a wallpaper background? this is so much effort for such simple stuff
15:44 nd____ If your page consists of just a background and some text, why use a big CMS at all?
15:46 blaab because i have to start low to understand the whole ts and cms stuff...would u start with the big skyscraper if u were a beginner architect? i doubt so...
15:46 amrun u think typo3 is not a skyscraper?
15:47 blaab typo3 is the building company not the skyscraper
15:47 amrun ok but then, typo3 builds skyscrapers...
15:48 blaab huts too
15:48 amrun what?
15:48 blaab a hut...a shack u know...
15:48 amrun ah hut..
15:49 amrun yes of course. but its very complex. damn cool once you know how to handle it, but you definately need some baldrian-pills while learning it ;)
15:50 nd____ blaab: Agreed. Well, to do this simple example of a page, do the following: Build the HTML for the page as well as the text for it. You're close to finish now -- except for the CMS of course. Then read the modern template tutorial, and integrate your page instead of the example it it. Now you're really finished. Enjoy
15:51 nd____ blaab: I found it very hard to get into it too, and find it still difficult very often, but you gotta work with it in order to get used to it. You best do that by example,..
15:52 blaab hm k i just wrote something but then came ur html and tut stuff. ill try that again but my other oppinion...
15:52 blaab ok instead of whining i wanna do something...so let me explain the main problem here briefly... i added a new page and gave it a blank template. now my logics tells me. add content. i do that with the add content feature...but instead. theres non of my texts but a hello world phrase. i found out that the ts did that in the template...but how do i get my content added with the content adding system onto the page?
15:53 amrun you have the content already there. the problem is, its not being rendered yet because of the empty template
15:53 amrun one moment
15:53 blaab ok
15:54 amrun try this (in your template):
15:54 amrun page = PAGE
15:54 amrun page.10 = TEXT
15:54 amrun page.10.value = Hello world
15:54 blaab i got this in the template already
15:54 nd____ there's more
15:55 blaab no just that and a comment with #
15:55 void blaab: page = PAGE, page.10 < styles.content.get
15:56 nd____ instead of the , but a newline
15:56 blaab where does it the the styles.content.get? is this the famous content from the content-adding-system?
15:56 nd____ yes
15:56 blaab wohoo...ill try that
15:57 blaab like this: page = PAGE
15:57 blaab page.10 = TEXT
15:57 blaab page.10.value = Herzlich Wilkommen bei der ...
15:57 blaab PAGE,
15:57 blaab page.10 < styles.content.get
15:58 nd____ No. Just the last two lines. (1) page = PAGE (2) page.10 < styles.content.get
15:59 blaab # Default PAGE object:
15:59 blaab page = PAGE
15:59 blaab page.10 < styles.content.get
15:59 blaab doesnt print anything
16:01 void blaab: did you include css_styled_content into your template?
16:02 void blaab: see section "include static"
16:02 blaab i didnt include anything. and im not sure where
16:03 void blaab: go to web>template, select page with template and click on "edit whole template"
16:04 blaab ok its working now
16:05 blaab now i can use the content-adding-system proberly? like adding a frame with navigator funktions and so on?
16:05 blaab *properly
16:06 nd____ blaab: No. This just puts out the text, and only for the middle content part...
16:06 nd____ blaab: You have read that this cms has a relatively steep learning curve? Be patient...
16:08 blaab >_> i really dont want to do every step in irc...so thats why there has to be a selfexplaining tutorial... but i think a documentation does the same
16:17 amrun erh. yeah. sorry i was afk for a sec
16:17 amrun the problem is also, that there are several ways to make your damn
16:19 reva2 hi.. pls tell me how i can get current time using typoscript?
16:20 dokma hey guys
16:20 dokma any of you have your TYPO3 in a folder without write permission for the owner?
16:21 nd____ Had that once, was just unusable IMHO...
16:22 dokma one use of my site cloning ext told me he was unable to use it
16:23 dokma cause it choked on the missing write permission
16:23 dokma apparently his installation is in a folder that does not have write permission for the owner
16:23 dokma that's my only logical conclusion
16:23 dokma nd____: you use your TYPO3 on linux server ?
16:23 nd____ or your ext tries to write in a wrong directory
16:24 nd____ dokma: Yes
16:24 dokma nd____: give my ext a shot
16:24 dokma I'm interested in results
16:24 dokma siteclone
16:24 dokma just don't use it on a huge site
16:24 nd____ dokma: Yeah, read that yesterday night. Problem is I only have some productive sites running at the moment, nothing really unimportant to me. :)
16:25 dokma ahh....
16:25 dokma nevermind
16:25 dokma I'll find an appropriate victim
16:25 dokma any volunteers ?
16:25 nd____ As soon as I set up another test-site, I will try it and write you
16:25 dokma cool
16:25 dokma it even contains a handy report tool
16:26 dokma so you just enter name and email and submit it
16:26 dokma if it reaches the report tool that is
16:26 dokma :)
16:26 nd____ harhar
16:26 dokma ok, time for my pushups
16:26 dokma will I make it to 60 this time?
16:26 dokma any bets
16:27 nd____ Well, it's wednesday, so why not?
16:27 dokma I put 10¬ on me
16:27 dokma warming up
16:28 dokma adios
16:29 foool Hi, I used glossary extended, nd it is okay for what I need. I have a few probs. htmlrte - it doesn't let me leave a paragraph, when I hit enter of even if I enter twice. Also when I want to embed an image and justify it, it strips it out again when I save it. How can I solve this problem?
16:30 dokma foool: you're in for a wild ride on htmlarea transformations
16:30 dokma look it up on google
16:31 dokma to pinpoint the prob
16:31 dokma first check if paragraph tags are stripped in the db too
16:31 dokma or just in the frontend
16:31 dokma that will tell you if they get lost during db storage or during fe rendering
16:32 dokma foool:
16:36 d^c^k6950 i have some probs with language switching... there are 3 languages (0,1,2), when i select L=0 is everything fine, i can cahnge to L=1 and L=2 BUT wenn i select a language and want to switch to a language with a lover ID, typo3 puts the lower LangID before the actual LangID and so it is effectless. Login.80.0.html?&L=0&L=2 somebody an idea how to solve it?
16:41 foool dokma - in the database there is still a space (paragraph) in the text.
16:42 dokma foool: then you have the problem during the output rendering
16:42 dokma might be that the tags are just not allowed
16:42 foool where would i troubleshoot that, how?
16:42 Kemit_ Hi There !
16:42 dokma did you check the ext config in the object browser?
16:42 dokma hello :)
16:42 Kemit_ Someone from ireland here ?
16:43 foool the files are in a system folder does that affect it?
16:43 foool I dunno how to do that
16:43 dokma in the web module click template
16:44 dokma then click the page that contains the typoscript template
16:44 dokma in the page tree
16:44 dokma then on the right side there should be a drop down
16:44 dokma upper right corner
16:44 foool i will look
16:45 dokma you should be able to find item labeled TypoScript object Browser
16:45 dokma let me know when you find it
16:45 dokma I'll guide you further
16:48 foool I am there
16:52 foool dokma - I am in there now but understand nothing
16:52 foool why doesn't typo3 have courses we could attend?
16:53 void foool: hehe.. if i were not so busy, i'll offer you personal skype courses, maybe -)
16:54 foool hey!! what a good idea, never thought of that one.
16:55 foool It is so much easier than reading, show and tell is the best way.
16:56 dokma foool: true
16:56 dokma how you doing ?
16:56 dokma any advance ?
16:57 foool i see it but understand nothing :)
16:58 foool no advance
17:45 foool can anyone help?
17:49 maholtz_ @foool: didnt follow - what is the problem?
17:50 foool i wrote above you didn't see it?
17:50 foool I used glossary extended, nd it is okay for what I need. I have a few probs. htmlrte - it doesn't let me leave a paragraph, when I hit enter of even if I enter twice. Also when I want to embed an image and justify it, it strips it out again when I save it. How can I solve this problem?
17:54 maholtz_ it is possible to configure the rte for each table (or field) - perhaps you could have look at the docs of tt_news - afaik there is something about that - may be you can use it for glossary?
17:58 foool i am lost with it. :(
18:09 nd____ foool: You mentioned courses. Well, depending in your country and region there's a chance of courses. At least in germany there's a fairly broad amount of people giving courses. Apart from that, there's of course -- a classic -- the book thing. Then there are video podcasts, loads and loads of tutorials etc.
18:09 foool I see the videos but they are all old
18:10 foool I am in belgium - germany isn't too far
18:10 nd____ Right, I found so many docs beeing outdated. Then again, once you get the hang of it, it's quite simple to adapt to newer things (most of the time).
19:13 crisb2010 hi guys
19:14 crisb2010 i am trying to remove all the <a id="XX"></a> tags from my sourecode. i googled and asked some friends of mine and nobody knew how to get rid of them. does one of you know how to remove them?
19:17 maholtz_ tt_content.stdWrap.innerWrap ... something like that
19:19 dark0n3 would anyone know, why after upgrading to 4.2 page tree is no longer visible through backend. I can browse the pages through page -> List, but that's a bit awkward
19:19 dark0n3 (only the first item in tree view is visible)
19:21 crisb2010 maholtz_ its tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap =
19:21 crisb2010 thanks for your tip
19:31 void dark0n3: search for a bug at bugtracker
19:31 void just2b: did you get enough joy? =)
19:35 just2b void yeah.. was a very busy day...
19:48 dark0n3 duh forgot to update tables, darn button was hidden too deep in the install process :]
19:57 FloLeBlanc hi all
19:57 FloLeBlanc can someone aid me with regexp for a sec? :)
19:59 tomyN hi, I want to install a typo3 site on a server, how do I import the sql database. I used a different host and exported everything. kinda confused meanwhile ... thanks
20:16 timdeluxe FloLeBlanc: only very basic
20:16 timdeluxe tomyN: fresh installation
20:16 timdeluxe ?
20:19 tomyN hi
20:19 tomyN no
20:19 tomyN update
20:21 timdeluxe so you want to move your site?
20:21 timdeluxe do you have access to any mysql tools?
20:21 timdeluxe phpmyadmin? commandline?
20:21 timdeluxe any other panel?
20:23 tomyN phpmyadmin, I am working on Yahoo Business Web Hosting and cannot figure out how to import sql data
20:26 tomyN run SQL query? for import?
20:27 tomyN like " Run SQL query/queries on database DATABASE_NAME "
20:27 tomyN ?
20:28 tomyN I hate yahoo
20:29 pmk65 tomyN: you could also try exporting your site as a .t3d file, and then import that one into your new site..
20:29 tomyN pmk65: I thought I would need to import t3d AND the sql together?!?
20:30 pmk65 no, a t3d is enough..
20:30 tomyN im in the install tool and can connect to a database anyway
20:31 tomyN have a terrible headache (for other reasons) feel just dumb as dumb can be ...
20:34 tomyN in the install tool, what goes under "host" ?
20:39 timdeluxe often localhost
20:39 timdeluxe sorry was away
20:39 timdeluxe phpmyadmin is also ok
20:39 tomyN I just put local
20:40 timdeluxe depents on how you exported the data
20:40 timdeluxe i doubt "local" is enough
20:40 tomyN it cannot load the page at all now
20:41 timdeluxe hm
20:41 timdeluxe not even the install tool?
20:42 tomyN ok, I downloaded the localcon.php file and changed it
20:42 tomyN I just uploaded the whole directory to the server, and it cannot connect to the database
20:43 timdeluxe any error messages? typed in correct db user/pass/host?
20:44 tomyN Your database connection failed, none of my passwords work :-(
20:46 timdeluxe what about to get a completely new installation running, and then import a t3d file?
20:54 tomyN what else than "localhost" could it be?
20:56 titii Hey there, I have a mic, so I would like to test it on the Skype? Somebody on the usefull talk? Thanks ;)
20:57 tomyN aaahhh, I put mysql, and it worked
21:03 timdeluxe titii: you could call the call answer box :)
21:03 timdeluxe tomyN: unnormal, but good that it runs now
21:04 tomyN that's yahoo, a complete pain in the ass ...
21:04 titii timdeluxe should be funny?
21:07 nd____ tomyN: Just guessing, but I'd bet it's in the docs
21:12 tomyN nd____: what? how to install it at yahoo?
21:12 tomyN show me the page and I sign out of irc
21:12 Denyerec Slow day today huh
21:14 Phlogi_ hi all
21:16 void Tomorrow is Beltain...
21:16 timdeluxe titii: if you tell yourself jokes, it is
21:16 void or Beltane..
21:17 void Denyerec: don't you celebrate it?
21:18 timdeluxe tomyN: google-ing for typo3 and yahoo just crashed my browser, i think that is a sign :D
21:19 tomyN :-0
21:19 timdeluxe void: whats that?
21:19 nd____ tomyN: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/smallbusiness/webhosting/mysql/mysql-18.html
21:20 tomyN heh, now if you find how to import an sql file
21:20 tomyN of course I have phpMyAdmin already installed
21:21 void timdeluxe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltane
21:21 timdeluxe then it is not complicated
21:21 nd____ tomyN: Added a table?
21:21 nd____ tomyN: Or do you already have empty tables on the left side?
21:21 timdeluxe void: i see. we only have day of work and father's day tomorrow
21:22 tomyN I have some databases here, I simply want to import tables, yes
21:22 tomyN does not seem to be an option with the yahoo version of php
21:22 timdeluxe tab "sql" and select the sql file
21:22 tomyN I did this some days ago at a different host
21:22 nd____ tomyN: Ok. But you have an empty db or can create one?
21:22 void timdeluxe: "we" have a "holiday of Spring and Work" tomorrow
21:23 nd____ Here there's a seperate tab named `Import`.
21:23 nd____ tomyN: Do you have a shell-access?
21:23 tomyN no
21:41 titii timdeluxe you are funny candy man
21:43 timdeluxe titii: hrhr
21:46 titii timdeluxe you are so inteligent person. aplaus
21:47 timdeluxe titii: you sound a bit ironic
21:47 timdeluxe but thanks for the flowers ;)
21:47 titii timdeluxe YES I am, you really looks as a inteligent person
21:48 timdeluxe you are saying that while you never saw me ;)
21:48 titii timdeluxe ou you like a flowers, ou you little gay candy
21:49 timdeluxe ok thats enough. i do not continue this conversation
21:49 titii its totaly enough to read you
21:50 titii timdeluxe so what you would like to talk me, if I was write about some skype talk?
21:50 titii you was a brainy man, or candy man?
21:50 titii so take control your self
21:55 tomyN so, finally .... oy,
21:55 tomyN now I use a Form for email, I put in a recipient email but it is not working, what am I missing
21:57 titii someone who has an better experience with TYPO3 and YAML?
22:01 titii no? :) nothing odd, there at the same time max. 1 person who is helping :) but I am surprised the TYPO3 as a big project with a big comunity and on this icq are so a few people
22:03 titii ries, no? what you mean houmie ? :)
22:03 ries ??
22:04 nd____ tomyN: How did you put in the recipient? In the Form or via script?
22:05 tomyN there is a field below 'configuration' and jump to page'
22:05 tomyN it's a plugin I guess
22:05 nd____ tomyN: Dunno if it's needed but I also use |recipient=hidden | (obscured mail address)
22:05 nd____ in the configuration textarea
22:05 tomyN will try ...
22:08 tomyN doesn't work
22:08 titii ries did you rub the dust here? :D
22:08 tomyN I am sure it's the yahoo crap
22:09 nd____ tomyN: Try enabling the install tool and test the send-mail feature
22:09 tomyN ah, ok
22:09 nd____ tomyN: If that's not working it's not related to your form but to your installation
22:09 ries titii: what do you mean=
22:09 ries ?
22:11 titii ries where is the real huge community for talking about typo3?
22:11 tomyN nd____: under what number is that?
22:12 ries titii: a lot of activity is on the mailinglist
22:12 ries and most activity is in Europe...
22:13 nd____ ries: Which ML?
22:14 titii ries give me the subscribe link into it please
22:15 ries http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
22:15 nd____ tomyN: 1: Basic Configuration
22:15 nd____ I just subscribed to HCI, but it's a real low volume ML so far
22:15 tomyN I found it, seems to be fine, but I do not receive any emails
22:16 nd____ tomyN: Then it might be not that fine
22:16 tomyN duhh
22:16 nd____ tomyN: Could be that this feature's blocked
22:16 tomyN at least it is not my T3 configuration
22:16 tomyN yahooo, aaarrggghhh
22:17 nd____ tomyN: _Could_ be... I assume you read the text that goes with this test?
22:17 tomyN yes
22:18 nd____ So there are other reasons why nothing happens. Asking yahoo about mailing features in php is not possible?
22:19 ries nd____: HCI is low volume and more developers of BE modules
22:19 nd____ ries: Assumed that, thats why I joined. But what's the more useful traffic list? Which of the like 20?
22:19 tomyN nd____: would I need to set up PHP perl mail or so?
22:20 ries typo3-english is active for all typoscripting and work
22:20 nd____ tomyN: Can't tell. I would say the mail() feature has to be enabled within php. Maybe reading in phpinfo() gives a clue
22:20 ries there is a TV list if you use templavoila
22:20 ries and a RTE list if you have problems configurating teh RTE
22:20 tomyN k, will look, thanks!!!
22:20 nd____ ries: Thanks
22:21 tomyN hi ries
22:21 tomyN still at the address you have me?!? I ate all chocolate again, needed it, junky ...
22:22 tomyN you gave me, mmpf
22:22 ries tomyN: I am still at that same address yes....
22:22 tomyN k, will try again
22:23 titii ries thanks
22:24 ries titii: yw
22:25 frUser hi everybody
22:25 ries tomyN: I told my wife about the chocolate, and how nice it will be to take at least 2 weeks eating it while in front of our television show (two and a half man)
22:25 tomyN will get fresh one.
22:26 nd____ Special chocolate?
22:26 tomyN uhhm, how can I get this on a page: http://us.1.p11.webhosting.yahoo.com/v/ao/for.html
22:27 tomyN just paste the html code?
22:28 nd____ tomyN: You really should move your typo to another webprovider. This yahoo webhosting more for PageBuilder and stuff
22:29 tomyN tell that my client, they don't want to do this right now :-(
22:34 cobu hi everybody, I am looking for information about tt_address
22:35 tomyN ok, where could I find the data to edit contact form plugin?
22:35 tomyN constants?
22:38 uriahheep ugh... my boss asked me to write docs on how to edit the content on our site -_-
22:39 uriahheep how silly
22:39 uriahheep oh well
22:39 uriahheep :(
22:39 cobu for a customer I made some screenshots
22:39 uriahheep yeah
22:39 uriahheep that's what i'm doing
22:39 uriahheep and then photoshopping some comments onto them
22:39 cobu so did I
22:40 uriahheep but still, it's lengthly, and feels useless... i mean, why the hell can't they just be smart?
22:40 uriahheep :P
22:40 cobu it's time consuming but helpful
22:40 uriahheep meh
22:40 uriahheep i dunno how helpful it really is...
22:40 cobu my customer really appreciated it
22:41 cobu so will your boss - I'm sure about that!
22:41 uriahheep i find that the typo3 UI is too easy to be explained... the icons are smart enough to be understood without docs... everything's quite straight-forward...
22:42 tomyN so, in the default form email plugin, I'll need to add a description for action.
22:42 uriahheep cobu: how many screenshots does your doc use? :P
22:42 tomyN guess it generates simply method=post ...
22:42 tomyN but where?
22:42 cobu I'm holding lectures about weblog usage - it's the same as writing word documents - but nevertheless ...
22:43 cobu Just have to count - please wait a moment
22:43 uriahheep hmmm
22:43 uriahheep the thing is... this is an IT firm...
22:43 uriahheep lol
22:43 uriahheep people should know how to use CMS's in it... if i'm not available to do work on the site, then get some other dude to... it's easy.
22:45 cobu ok, my customer just uses IT - my document has 19 pages
22:45 uriahheep hmmm
22:45 uriahheep that is quite long :P
22:45 uriahheep but i mean, wouldn't the "Getting Started" doc be enough?
22:45 cobu 17 pages with screenshots
22:46 uriahheep heheh
22:46 cobu mmh - it's not individual!
22:47 uriahheep hmmm
22:48 uriahheep it would be nice to have some kind of doc for mere users... you know?
22:48 cobu making screenshots and comments - this is easy as well, but having problems with a certain extension and not knowing how to solve ...
22:48 uriahheep a 101 just for the people who will use the site to edit content... they read that, then they're set, and don't need any other docs
22:49 uriahheep cobu: that's what the site dev is for ;)
22:49 uriahheep to take care of these things :)
22:49 cobu I always offer some kind of online help after the course
22:49 uriahheep hmm, ok
22:49 uriahheep like, chatting?
22:50 cobu email
22:50 uriahheep ah, ok :P yeah
22:51 cobu not all people know how to chat ;-)
22:51 uriahheep :-o
22:51 uriahheep heheh
22:52 uriahheep it's really sad...
22:52 cobu you're perfectly right - have to quit now
22:52 uriahheep very often i think about not working in computers anymore in revolt against people's lack of understanding of them... it should really be something that is taught in school, as important as math and stuff
22:53 uriahheep then again, i know MANY people who cannot read or write well in their mother tongue...
22:53 uriahheep well
22:53 uriahheep yeah
22:54 cobu I better don't tell you about my children playing (son) and chatting (daughter) with the computer - see you - bye
23:31 dokma hi guys
23:32 dokma class.tslib_content.php <- great reading, I wholeheartedly recommend it
23:37 mac3 srsly? ^^
23:41 void dokma: read that for many times... =)
23:41 dokma seriously
23:41 dokma you'll learn typoscript that way faster than any manual
23:41 dokma and it's really not that much code
23:42 dokma I'm starting to understand some things for the first time
23:42 dokma especially some criptic properties from the docs
23:42 dokma that I just could not even understand how to use
23:45 void hehe
23:45 void so right..
23:46 dokma just found that the documented feature of .space property of wrap the useDiv is not implemented at all
23:46 dokma that's in 4.1.6
23:47 dokma and I don't find it in 4.2.0 either
23:47 dokma hehe
23:47 dokma this is cool
23:52 Denyerec ?

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