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00:24 Titi hello anybody
00:25 otu hi
00:26 Phlogi_ hi hi
00:28 otu seems to be a quiet day in typo3 land
00:28 Phlogi_ its night
00:30 otu am not sleeping till i work out this tt_news issue
00:31 Phlogi_ otu: try debugging
00:32 otu ??
00:32 Phlogi_ otu: go into the tt_news extension...
00:33 Phlogi_ the catmenu still is not showing up at all right?
00:33 otu its showing up fine. just the links are not working as expected. trying all options now one by one
00:33 Phlogi_ how are they not working?
00:35 Phlogi_ i mean whats the problem otu?
00:37 otu I have a page with a list display and there's also a menu of categories.
00:37 otu so if i click on a category it should take me to the page with the list display of articles of that category
00:38 Phlogi_ and what does it now?
00:40 otu the links are active but they just reload the same page
00:41 Phlogi_ try to set all the pid's
00:42 otu i know its something to do with the pids but my patience is running out fast and am tired
00:42 Phlogi_ hmm
00:42 otu but i will just try everything until i work out a pattern
00:43 Phlogi_ what exactly does the link generated look like?
00:43 Phlogi_ or maybe its just not possible... maybe its designed to just be a selctor box
00:43 Phlogi_ so you need to change the typolink object of catmenu
00:44 otu uh oh. TS?
00:45 otu not my strong point.
00:47 Phlogi_ hmm maybe its not possible, wait
00:49 Phlogi_ $this->conf['catSelectorTargetPid']
00:50 otu which file should that go to?
00:50 Phlogi_ catSelectorTargetPid
00:51 Phlogi_ Set this value to let the links from categories in catSelector mode point to another page than the current page (catImageMode or catTextMode = 3).
00:51 Phlogi_ from manual :p
00:51 otu ok. was just confused since that first part is php
00:51 Phlogi_ found it out through php ;)
00:52 otu thats what am working on. php so that i can away with having to learn typoscript
00:52 otu do away with
00:53 Phlogi_ hehe thats not really true
00:53 Phlogi_ but anyway
00:53 Phlogi_ set that ts option and your fine
00:57 Phlogi_ otu: ^
00:57 otu well it worked!
00:57 otu in a way
00:58 otu so now i have to rearrange the mess of pages i made and test it with all my categories.
00:58 otu it takes me to the individual pages like i want it to
00:58 Phlogi_ hihi
00:58 Phlogi_ why didn't you read the manual
00:59 otu i confess i didnt read the 'whole' manual but i was planning to do it tonight
01:00 otu i had skipped to the "relevant parts" :)
01:00 otu anyway thanks a lot.
01:01 otu now on to realurl
01:01 Phlogi_ otu: no problem
01:01 Phlogi_ I should have helped you earlier :)
01:02 otu one last question. what do u mean by 'thats not really true' i can at least hack into the code to make typo3 do what i want using php cant i?
01:03 otu its ok. i guess i learned something
01:03 otu RTFM
01:08 Phlogi_ otu: of course you can, but thats totally overhead if you have TS
01:08 Phlogi_ I mean for that purpose there is TS
01:08 Phlogi_ and hacking typo3's core is not easy
01:09 Phlogi_ there is almost no reason to do that anyway
01:10 otu its not easy but easier than building it right? ts just abstracts the whole problem making u have to read tsref and ts_this and ts_that
01:12 Phlogi_ what do you mean by building it?
01:12 Phlogi_ reading php code might help with extensions... but reading typo3's core code won't help you imho
01:12 Phlogi_ as it is a monster
01:13 otu so php wont help me customize typo3 to my own liking?
01:14 Phlogi_ what do you mean with typo3?
01:15 Phlogi_ i would say its just not necessary... if you want you will probably write an extension with php that customizes typo3... :)
01:16 otu ok. i get what u are saying. that i should just build an extension to make it do what i want it to do for me?
01:16 Phlogi_ exactly
01:16 Phlogi_ and for this you need php
01:16 Phlogi_ but even if you write an extension you won't ever know what the hell is going on insides typo3's core :)
01:16 otu never say never :)
01:17 Phlogi_ hehe I said ever :D
01:19 otu semantics.
01:19 otu well. i guess its true. i won't 'ever' have time to dig into the core. too many things to do and learn.
01:20 Phlogi_ yes :) hehe
01:21 Phlogi_ otu: read whatever you can :)
01:22 otu am reading php5, fedora and now typo3
01:22 Phlogi_ http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TSref/45MinutesTypoScript ts ;)
01:22 otu thanks!
01:22 Phlogi_ opensource holdays? :)
01:23 otu well I guess that being here in africa, I have no choice
01:25 Phlogi_ otu: I have the choice, and I chose free software :)
01:28 otu It kind of chose me but as i read up more on it and the history behind it, i guess i have to say that OSS is the best thing to happen to the IT industry
01:30 Phlogi_ indeed
01:30 otu Phlogi_: I should say thank u again. its actually very hard to get any help on typo3
01:30 Phlogi_ otu: yes I know... its not that easy... best thing in my opinion are books.
01:30 Phlogi_ I hope the new typo3 site will be online soon.. which hopefully makes things more easy
01:33 otu i have the real_url manual open now and its time to go in and learn how it works. i will be here tomorrow to let u know how it worked out.
01:36 Phlogi_ hehe you don't need to know how it works... but yes :)
01:36 Phlogi_ cu man :)
01:36 Phlogi_ and good luck with typo3
01:36 otu i wont give up on it
01:37 otu thanks
01:37 Phlogi_ yes thats good, typo3 rocks in the end :)
01:38 Phlogi_ its 01.46 here
01:38 xsebi exactly : )
01:39 otu no pain, no gain. see u guys later
01:39 Phlogi_ xsebi: haha :)
01:40 xsebi the more you know about the more fun it is
01:40 xsebi and less pain
01:41 Phlogi_ hihi just read tsref.de twice :D
01:48 xsebi will be 2 days of just typing
01:48 xsebi oh my
01:49 otu wow! and i thought i had it bad.
01:58 Phlogi_ xsebi: why? and what db?
01:59 xsebi a db with profiles of people , the dude who made it did it in latin and i updated that db+extension
02:00 Phlogi_ you can convert it
02:00 xsebi didnt find any tool till now to convert just to utf-8
02:00 xsebi u have a link ?
02:00 Phlogi_ xsebi: hmm?
02:00 Phlogi_ just do a mysql dump and then use recode or something
02:02 Phlogi_ xsebi: there are also scripts to convert the whole db
02:02 xsebi i treid some
02:02 xsebi tried
02:02 xsebi well its worth another try
02:02 xsebi i just got something in my mind : )
02:02 Phlogi_ its possible at least
02:03 Phlogi_ i once fucked up a db and then just used a search and replace pattern in the end :)
02:03 xsebi ah yes , thats another thing a friend told me just autoreplace
02:03 xsebi hehe
02:03 Phlogi_ or you might use: convmv
02:04 Phlogi_ good luck and good night
02:05 xsebi g'night
02:05 xsebi conf mv looks good
02:05 xsebi thx
02:05 xsebi need to note that somewhere or il just forget it again
03:36 Administrator hello, how i can post at newsgroup: typo3.projects.timtab
10:09 d|g hi all
12:50 |Awillys| hithere
12:50 Awillys anyone using direct_mail?
13:55 null__ gm
13:59 null__ i got a problem updating a typo3 3.8 installation to 4.0 or 4.2
13:59 null__ I found some advices, on what to change. but i always get stucked with a tslib symlink.
14:00 null__ all howtos tell me to delete th tslib symlink, and when i browser the typo3 backend i get the error
14:00 null__ Cannot find tslib/. Please set path by defining $configured_tslib_path in index.php.
14:00 null__ someone an idea?
14:14 otu null__:
14:14 otu hi
14:15 null__ hi otu
14:15 foool hi all
14:15 otu foool: hi
14:16 ddoesburg He otu. You are there? How is your CATMENU?
14:16 foool know anything about symlinks otu
14:17 otu ddoesburg: hi, got the CATMENU to work on one page.
14:17 ddoesburg great
14:18 otu null__: do u have a symlink in ur typo3 root?
14:19 ddoesburg otu: Is was in the property catSelectorTargetPid. That points to the page you want to see the result. Can be the same as where the CATMENU is
14:19 null__ tslib -> ../typo3_src/typo3/sysext/cms/tslib
14:20 ddoesburg But you can also give every category a pid in the record
14:24 otu null__: mine reads t3lib -> typo3_src/t3lib/. am no expert but http://typo3bloke.net/
14:24 otu theres some useful info there.
14:25 otu ddoesburg: on it right away
14:25 null__ ah. thx. will see
14:26 otu null__: just check the links to the right
14:27 null__ oh. guess it works
14:29 null__ what a pitty. completely damaged
14:31 foool I need to batch chmod dirs and file to 644 and 755 in SSH how do I do that?
14:33 null__ chmod 644 -Rf /folder
14:35 null__ does anyone ever managed to update a 3.8 version to 4.x?
14:35 null__ here? :)
14:42 otu null__: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Upgrade
14:42 null__ otu: thx, but this is complete outdated
14:42 null__ i have read this on my first tries
14:43 otu too bad :(
14:44 otu if u could speak german......
14:45 null__ pitty :(
14:58 schmidtsmikey hello
15:02 schmidtsmikey how is it possible to protect pictures an data from people who aren't registrated website users? i can create pages with "show after login" but the pictures are saved in a path like www.domain.com/fileadmin/pics. So everybody have access to these picture...
15:14 Phlogi_ hey otu :)
15:14 Phlogi_ null__: yes I did :)
15:14 otu Phlogi_: hey
15:14 Phlogi_ schmidtsmikey: search for secure on the extensions
15:16 otu Phlogi_: will be right back
15:16 Phlogi_ schmidtsmikey: I'm using naw_securedl
15:17 schmidtsmikey cool...thx!
15:17 Phlogi_ schmidtsmikey: np
15:36 null__ uhh. it works :)
15:36 null__ thank you otu
15:38 otu what did i do?
15:39 null__ just for animating :) to give it a last try.
15:40 otu well. ur welcome.
15:41 Phlogi_ :)
15:50 otu ok. am stuck.
15:52 otu ddoesburg: how do i set a pid for every category
15:53 ddoesburg In the category records
16:00 otu its driving me nuts. the first category shortcut selector points to the page with the list item right?
16:01 ddoesburg ????
16:02 otu in the category record. there is the news category shortcut. and the single page view for the category
16:02 ddoesburg The single view page has nothing to do with this
16:03 otu i set the shortcut to a page with a LIST display for news belonging to the category
16:03 ddoesburg OK
16:04 ddoesburg That works?
16:07 otu no
16:07 ddoesburg What do you want to achieve?
16:08 ddoesburg Shall I tell what I did?
16:08 otu please do
16:09 ddoesburg I made a page with the newsplugin. Selected CATMENU and LIST. Category modus: Show (OR). all categories I want to show. Startpoint the sysfolder
16:10 ddoesburg TAB Category settings: Modus: Shortcut to category
16:11 ddoesburg In my template: plugin.tt_news.catSelectorTargetPid = xx
16:12 ddoesburg The pid of the new page with the plugin
16:12 ddoesburg No shortcuts in the cat-records
16:12 ddoesburg Do you use realurl or cooluri?
16:13 otu was trying to implement realurl today with no success
16:16 otu i have 3 categories, news, alerts and an archive of these two.
16:18 otu i want a list page of all non archived news and a list page of non-archived alerts
16:19 otu the archives has two subcategories. news and alerts. these pages show me the archived items in each of the categories
16:20 otu finally. the catmenu appears in all these pages to allow readers to switch between categories as they wish. i hope i am clear
16:22 Awillys any direct_mail user around?
16:22 Awillys my newsletter does not show the pictures on hotmail. only a gre box instead of the picture (i_safe.gif)
16:38 ddoesburg Do it the way I wrote. That should work
16:39 ddoesburg uninstall Realurl
16:41 otu ahem. i just installed direct mail and i get this error TYPO3 Fatal Error: Extension key "div" was NOT loaded! (t3lib_extMgm::extPath)
16:42 otu now nothing works. how can i install it manually?
16:42 adnc my articles do not accept umlautes or non ascii characters, is there a way to have typo3 accept them? they are all displayed as question marks
16:56 ddoesburg otu: Go to the typo3conf directory
16:57 ddoesburg remove the directmail extension from localconf.php
16:57 ddoesburg Two places
16:57 otu ok
16:57 ddoesburg There is one list with extensions
16:57 ddoesburg This will be one of the latest
16:58 ddoesburg remove only the word
16:58 ddoesburg And the comma
16:58 ddoesburg And there is a complete line
16:58 ddoesburg May be the last in the file
16:58 ddoesburg Remove that whole line
16:59 ddoesburg After closing localconf.php remove the tempfiles in that same directory
17:30 otu sorry for disappearing. that didnt work. so i restored from my backups
17:36 Phlogi_ otu: oh already?
17:36 Phlogi_ so did you get it working?
17:37 otu i have given up
17:39 otu trying to get typo3 to do what i want to do.
17:40 Phlogi_ hehe :)
17:41 Phlogi_ otu: what does this mean?
17:42 otu it means that i need lots of help
17:42 otu :)
17:42 Phlogi_ hehe
17:44 otu did u see my earlier posts about what i am trying to achieve?
21:28 zed_devil hi can somone tell me how i can make the smoothbox background tranparent i cant find the right css
21:33 weed37 hi there
21:48 dokma anyone interested in typo3 debugging with eclipse and xdebug tutorial?
21:48 dokma video tutorial?
22:43 adnc the extension rtehtmlarea which i just installed does not load on my typo3 4.2.1 installation.
22:43 adnc is there something i miss?
23:20 adnc is noone here ?
23:20 adnc my htmleditor is somehow gone...
23:20 void adnc: typo3 comes with bundled rtehtmlarea...
23:22 adnc void: unfortunately i installed rtehtmlare on top of it
23:22 adnc then i removed it again
23:22 adnc now i do not have an editor at all
23:22 adnc void: what could i do?
23:22 void adnc: clear all caches
23:22 adnc where can i clear backend caches?
23:23 adnc i use t3 4.2.1
23:23 adnc and i only see cache cleaning functions in the frontend, below the pages
23:23 void adnc: top right
23:24 adnc void: i cleaned the cache but still no htmleditor at all
23:24 adnc what else could i do
23:27 adnc this is no good, what should i do. anyone help available=
23:28 adnc void: still here?
23:28 void adnc: can you give me an access?
23:29 adnc void: yes sure moment
23:45 num000 does someone know if there is a citation plugin for typo3 that works with t3 version 4.2.1

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