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00:28 geierAL i finally decided to use rgslideshow for my gallery, but there is 1 problem left, even the property imageBrowser = 1 it isnt shown, could someone help?
02:12 Abacus007 hello
02:13 Abacus007 Cannot find tslib/. Please set path by defining $configured_tslib_path in index.php
02:15 abak007 hi
02:15 abak007 ok. now this works.
02:15 abak007 So I'm trying to install typo3 on apache/mysql platform
02:15 abak007 when I go to the index page I get the following message:
02:15 abak007 Cannot find tslib/. Please set path by defining $configured_tslib_path in index.php
02:16 abak007 any ideas? I found some shared hosting installation tutorials on the net but it seems they are from an older version of typo3
02:16 abak007 becuase mine does not include the /install/ folder
02:16 abak007 anyone alive here?
02:19 abak007 can someone answer my question. I'll check the logs later tonight. I am using a browser due to proxy so I will have to disconnect soon
02:22 foool hi
02:22 abak007 i
02:22 abak007 hi
02:22 foool what is the prob?
02:23 abak007 I am trying to install on a xampp lite and also on my shared hosting account by transferring the dummy site via FTP
02:24 abak007 but I get this message instead of any further setup instructions
02:24 abak007 "Cannot find tslib/. Please set path by defining $configured_tslib_path in index.php"
02:24 abak007 how do I fix it?
02:24 foool is it permissions?
02:24 abak007 I'm used to wordpress and drupal installations so this is all new to me
02:25 abak007 I have admin rights on the system that the xampp is installed on. and it's running on my USB key
02:25 abak007 I'll check
02:27 abak007 I don't think it's permissions
02:28 foool is it using symlink?
02:28 abak007 hat is symlink?
02:28 abak007 symbolic link?
02:28 abak007 I don't think so
02:29 foool go into index.php and put paath to tslib in there, you have the option i think
02:33 abak007 I'm on a windows system
02:33 abak007 would it still have tslib?
02:33 foool yes
02:34 abak007 here would it be located?
02:34 foool look in your dir tree and set path to it in index.php
02:34 abak007 is that part of apache, php or something else?
02:35 foool no typo3
02:35 abak007 I don't see any file or folder named tslib
02:35 foool searsch the drive
02:36 abak007 and I got the zip from here http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/typo3/dummy-4.2.1.zip?download
02:38 abak007 is it suppose to be only 19k for the zip and 9k for the tar? because most of the directories after extracting are empty. I'm searching the c drive but there was nothing in apache/php/mysql or typo3 directories named tslib
02:40 foool you need the source and dummy not just the dummy
02:41 foool http://typo3.org/download/packages/
02:42 foool http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/typo3/typo3_src+dummy-4.2.1.zip?download
02:53 abak007 k. I extracted this to my location and now I get a different error
02:53 abak007 thank you btw for pointing out I need source. doh.
02:53 abak007 here's the new error
02:53 abak007 "Cannot find configuration. This file is probably executed from the wrong location."
02:54 abak007 nm. got it
02:54 abak007 I had to manually specify index.php in the path. weird
02:56 foool is it working now?
02:56 foool are you just learning typo3
03:00 abak007 I'm trying it out for the first time
03:01 foool better to start using templatesµ
03:01 foool http://yaml.t3net.de/Download.19.0.html
03:01 abak007 I was looking at developing a new site using drupal because I know it a little but what I need cannot be done with drupal so I'm checking other CMS
03:01 foool what do you need to do?
03:03 abak007 One of the things I need is a lite helpdesk functionality that nicely integrates with the rest of the site
03:03 abak007 so I'm going to try that module out once I install typo3
03:03 foool ah!
03:04 adnc helpdesk module?
03:04 foool yes
03:05 adnc what is it called?
03:05 foool it will be in extensions at typo3
03:05 abak007 what are the templates? how are they different from other CMS out there? It's not using just CSS for layout control?
03:06 foool yaml has a built in template
03:06 foool so you don't have to start from scratch
03:07 abak007 yea I'll have a lot to learn here :)
03:07 foool where are you located
03:07 abak007 west coast, US
03:08 foool cool
03:08 abak007 I've just run into another problem. I'm trying to populate the DB with tables in the last step of the install and I get the 60sec timout error. I will increase the timeout but is it suppose to take this long?
03:08 foool here is a site i built using yaml http://justwings.co.uk/CMS/
03:09 foool did you create a dbase
03:10 abak007 yea. and I supplied the right credentials. The install script creates 36 tables then just times out
03:10 abak007 that is a nice site btw. that's why I decided to give typo3 a try because the example sites and templates I saw looked "businessy" and not blog like.
03:11 foool can't help you - shouldn't time out
03:12 foool you are on a local machine i would need to see it
03:12 abak007 I get error on line 1062 which is $res = mysql_query($query, $this->link);
03:12 foool is mysql running
03:13 abak007 part of "admin_query" function. I'll increase the timeout time and see how it goes
03:13 abak007 yep.
03:13 foool put the data in using phpmyadmin
03:23 abak007 ok I got it. I changed the max execution time and it worked
03:23 abak007 thank you so much again. now I'm off to learn to use typo3... looks like it has a ton of options
03:23 abak007 thanks again.
03:24 foool if you have probs get yaml
03:24 chefan hmm
03:24 foool good luck
03:24 chefan i've seen that prob before
03:24 foool hi chefan
03:24 chefan wich class?
03:24 chefan which
03:24 chefan hi foool
03:25 foool you are up early - late?
03:25 chefan this timeout issue does not seem to be actually a performance issue
03:26 chefan if i am right. i think someone recently had it in the same place
03:26 foool he got it to work chefan i think
03:26 chefan yep, but stil it would be interesting to know the reasons
03:27 chefan if it's exactly the same place, the chances that this happens on different hardware are not too high
03:27 chefan i am up normal, i live in chile
03:27 chefan 2130 here
03:27 foool ah!
03:28 foool nice place i hear
03:28 chefan first time i saw that i assumed an eclipse eating up te resources in the bg or something like that, this time i wanted to start a statistic ;)
03:29 chefan well, nice nad ugly, chile has it all
03:29 chefan from the driest desert on earth to penguins
03:30 abak007 chefan were you asking me about the class thing?
03:31 chefan yes
03:31 abak007 it's in class. class.t3lib_db.php
03:31 chefan sec, let me take a note
03:31 abak007 he first error I got was at line 1080. after that every time it was at line 1062
03:33 abak007 and 36 tables were created but it would not finish. I increased the max_execution_time to 600s but it was really quick. I think it actually took less than 30 seconds to complete. I have of course restarted mysql and apache for the new php setting to take effect so that might have something to do with it
03:33 chefan i think so too
03:33 chefan hmm, sec, i was almost there the last time...
03:33 chefan did you copy a complete site?
03:34 chefan whole tree and all?
03:34 abak007 I extracted everything from the zip file and copied all of it to the htdocs dir on my USB drive. yea
03:35 chefan ah, ok. next time you do that, exclude or delete the temporaries
03:35 abak007 ok.
03:36 abak007 thanks again guys. gotta go home it's getting late here.
03:36 chefan should be typo3conf/*cache* or something
03:36 chefan i have a hunch it has to do ith that, not with the time :)
03:37 foool http://typo3winstaller.sourceforge.net/
03:37 foool try that abak007
03:38 chefan well, copying the site tree and working with a mysql dump should be ok, as long as you wipe the cache
03:38 chefan there is no technical reason why that should not work, if the configuration is the same on both machines
03:39 chefan but the cache in typo3 is a tricky beast anyway ;)
04:26 foool you there chefan?
04:28 chefan yes
04:42 chefan foool: yes
04:43 foool i have ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL in typo3conf but it still asks for it to be created?
04:50 chefan hmm, seems so, or not?
08:33 foool how do i find the owner and group of the webserver?
09:21 SimonSimCity I've problems using the extension "sb_downloader" ... at the time I have no downloads, but I get a MySQL-Error ...
09:21 SimonSimCity Here is my TypoScript-Code for sb_download http://paste.phlogi.net/sb_downlao/
09:24 SimonSimCity Here is a Screenshot of my MySQL-Error: http://www.bilder-space.de/show.php?file=6MBhEOKZBAoDxk4.gif
09:35 AlterFalter hi
09:56 swemark 3334 extensions in repository!
09:58 m4rtijn hi all
10:23 m4rtijn hmm
11:24 HankS morning. Is there anything possible like: register:count_MENUOBJ-1? Reduce the number of the Menues by one?
11:29 SimonSimCity I've a question in making special Menus:
11:29 SimonSimCity I want to set a special WRAP if the MenuItem has Childs ...
11:31 SimonSimCity Ok :D I've found what I searched for: "IFSUB" :)
11:34 HankS BTW: I am wondering for a longer time if there ist a "ISSUB", but I only found a "IFSUB".
11:35 Denyerek hey chaps
11:35 Denyerek what's the quickest and easiest way to disable a typo3 site and just display a "page diabled" message?
11:36 m4rtijn hehe, customer didnt pay deny? ;(
11:37 m4rtijn backup the template and use a simple TEXT value = page disabled
11:38 m4rtijn guess is the easiest
11:41 wizkoder moin
11:42 m4rtijn hi
11:49 wizkoder Is it possible to tell typo3 to save new post/get parameters? I need typo3 to give data to my php scripts that I call in the page
11:51 Denyerek m4rtijn - something like that.
11:52 Denyerek In the end, we redirected index.php symlink
11:54 HankS moin moin. Is there anything possible like: register:count_MENUOBJ-1? Reduce the number of the Menues by one?
11:57 teppi|working wizkoder, what do you mean?
11:58 teppi|working you should have access on $_POST and $_GET as usual
12:00 wizkoder When I set a variable in the POST/GET array in my script and then click on a menu point the array is gone. I would like typo3 to give these parameters to all links I click. Right now I set it manually everywhere. I am looking for a general way to preserve these parameters.
12:07 teppi|working you can let typo3 keep parameters .. but i dunno if its that you wanna do
12:07 teppi|working its simply not a good idea to run php scripts totally outside of typo3
12:07 teppi|working you should generate links and stuff like that the way typo3 does
12:07 teppi|working erm @ wizkoder
12:09 teppi|working in config.linkVars you can define parameters which should be kept if they are set once
12:24 wizkoder my problem is that I have to integrate a already existing website into typo3. this website needs and sets 2 parameters. Normally I read them out and put them in all links I create. But typo3 creates the links itself, so I need to tell it that there are 2 more parameters.
12:26 teppi|working as i already said you can keep this params with config.linkVars ;)
12:36 kuene is there a way to import static html pages into typo3? are there some scripts out there or a description which tables are affected? i must import over 600 pages :-o
12:38 wizkoder Where would I find config.linkVars? Sorry, but I can't find that in my book or the net.
12:39 teppi|working wizkoder, its in in the typoscript setup of your template
12:40 teppi|working kuene, i think you will have to do this manually ..
12:40 teppi|working i cant imagine that there are scripts that would do this
12:40 teppi|working there are some csv import scripts .. maybe some of them will help you
12:41 teppi|working basically you have to insert into two tables
12:41 teppi|working pages and tt_content
12:41 kuene yeah, the only thing i found and i will try is this:cms_plaintext_import
12:42 kuene otherwise i have to write one myself. but i thought that this could be quite a common problem...
12:46 teppi|working kuene, i think its very difficult to write an application which is capable of reading in a custom html code, reveal the hierarchy of the html documents and their content elements and transform it into a page tree
12:46 teppi|working you will have to do much work by hand
12:49 kuene yes i was afraid that this will be a lot of work...
12:54 Bejjan swemark: howdy partner
12:54 swemark yeehaa
13:27 RoyalKnight how can i set links to pages from other languages than the default one? other languages are added with "alternative page language"
13:39 xN33D guys, i made a navigation.. Who are we | Work at | Contact
13:39 xN33D and under contact there are 2 subitems.. when the button "Contact" = CURIFSUB, then he loads the subitems in the output and show the tree when iam rollover the button
13:40 xN33D But when iam the page : "Who are we" then he doesn't load the subitems of "Contact" so they are not showing when i rollover the button "Contact"
13:40 xN33D how is this possible?
13:42 xN33D ahrgh.. please help me, this is freak'n me out!
13:45 xN33D this is my navigation script http://paste.phlogi.net/navigation/
13:52 xN33D somebody?
14:05 jsfan hi everyone :)
14:12 mikhas fan of javascript?
14:12 mikhas :D
14:14 xN33D someone knows a solution for my question above?
14:28 wizkoder How do I start indexing of my pages?
14:29 wizkoder In the info module I can see that my pages are not indexed. But I miss a button or something to start it
14:34 wizkoder Is this a stupid question? Maybe its so easy and works without doing anything normally?
14:38 teppi|working wizkoder, do you have this entry in TS Setup:
14:38 teppi|working index_enable = 1
14:38 teppi|working page.index_enable = 1
14:38 teppi|working ?
14:38 swemark Was just about to go find it the ts-setup
14:39 xN33D and nobody knows an answer on my question? :(
14:40 swemark xN33D: got an url to see
14:41 xN33D yes.. moment..
14:45 xN33D swemark: you've got an private msg with the url
14:45 swemark yep
14:47 wizkoder I just included page.index_enable = 1 into the ts of my main page. And now? Still got no indices.
14:47 swemark non-logged in visitors will trigger the indexing
14:54 teppi|working wizkoder, the pages will be indexed while users are visiting it
14:56 teppi|working only contents which are cached will go into the search index ..
14:59 wizkoder Just trying :-) So far still no index. I am wondering why there are no buttons for it. To trigger it when users visit is okay for me. But the admin should have one button to index everything and every page manually. Some thing simply I do not understand :-)
15:08 teppi|working wizkoder, its because the page must be completely rendered before you can decide which should be indexed ..
15:08 teppi|working for this function you will need a site crawler
15:09 teppi|working which crawls the whole page .. normally this crawler is installed as a cronjob
15:09 wizkoder Good point. I am getting closer :-) Thanks so far.
15:14 Bejjan some are even crazy enough to build an entire searchengine :P
15:15 Faulix hello
15:16 Faulix I have 3 languages, the first one is the default language
15:16 Faulix now i want that if there is no content for the third language it should use the second language
15:16 Faulix how can i manage that?
15:40 HankS Is there anything possible like: register:count_MENUOBJ-1? Reduce the number of the Menues by one?
15:55 skipjack Hi
15:57 skipjack Typo3 give the Plugins Id Numbers | Names. The Drop Down Menue in the add content Form. shows me my installed Plugins .. where in my Plugin can I add a new Dropdown element here?
16:00 skipjack ah okay I think I have it ;)
16:07 PanTerra hi
16:07 PanTerra does anyone knows a module to show a directory from the server ?
16:07 PanTerra as file links
16:08 PanTerra I have a directory with overtime sheets and want to filter this directory on username.xls
16:08 PanTerra any ideas ?
16:18 jsfan is there anyone here who does not log on, fire away a question and leave again 5 min later? ;)
16:18 PanTerra still here
16:18 PanTerra and still want a answer :D
16:19 dinsdale07 well, in theory it's a give and take
16:20 PanTerra as it should be
16:20 PanTerra but on typo3 I m quit new so I couldn`t answer much questions
16:21 PanTerra but if I see something I know i will
16:22 dinsdale07 so what are you looking for?
16:22 PanTerra I have a directory with overtime sheets and want to filter this directory on username.xls
16:22 PanTerra i want to create a page with a file link to this specific file
16:23 PanTerra somewhere on the server
16:24 dinsdale07 what do you mean by filter?
16:25 PanTerra in this directory all overtime sheets are placed. to make it easy for the user it would be nice to only show his/here sheet
16:26 sledgeas hello
16:26 PanTerra I already know how to use the username variable in TS but I can`t get a directory list as filelinks on my page without having to upload all files
16:27 sledgeas on my gentoo's freshly installed apache2+php5+mysql typo3 started halting (whole apache did) while working in backend. works ok after apache2 restart
16:27 sledgeas halts on irregular pattern :(
16:27 PanTerra sledgeas can you check your /var/log/apache2 ?
16:28 PanTerra sledgeas it might give an idea wat has happened
16:28 sledgeas writes out nothing. apache2 starts not responding as if some infinite loop would be caught. there is nothing in the /var/log/apache2/*_log files
16:29 sledgeas nothing relevanrt
16:29 dinsdale07 ok - one though, don't know whether that helps or is applicable but each user can have a home directory. If there is only one file in this directory he would only see this file.
16:29 dinsdale07 :sledgeas - u have enough RAM?
16:29 sledgeas 1GB
16:30 sledgeas all other programs are off
16:30 sledgeas and was working ok at the beginning..
16:31 PanTerra dinsdale07 I want to keep these files on my server in 1 directory ond not upload it to typo3, changes can be made by the office departement and should be directly visible in samba
16:31 PanTerra sledgeas what is your timeout in php.ini ?
16:32 PanTerra sledgeas do you have installed extra modules ?
16:33 PanTerra @sledgeas dit everything worked before on this instalation ?
16:33 dinsdale07 :PanTerra symlinks from that one directory to the users homedirectory?
16:34 PanTerra that is an idea
16:34 dinsdale07 :PanTerra, I mean, actually that shoudl be not too difficult with the typolink either.
16:35 dinsdale07 :PanTerra which probably would be more elegant :-)
16:35 PanTerra so I first have to create a home directory
16:35 PanTerra per user
16:35 PanTerra (still have to create all users ;)
16:35 sledgeas PanTerra: 60 (for both, mysql and socket)
16:35 dinsdale07 :hold on, I think that's even more simple in TS if filename.xls == username
16:36 PanTerra filename is the same as the username
16:36 sledgeas all extensions are default, did not install any additional (htmlarea versioning, css styled content)
16:37 PanTerra @sledgeas did it worked before and just stopped or didn`t it worked at all?
16:38 sledgeas it worked before
16:38 sledgeas now stops every so often
16:38 sledgeas today
16:38 sledgeas very strange
16:38 sledgeas i did emerge --update world etc
16:38 sledgeas (for gentoo)
16:38 PanTerra u didn`t changed anything ?
16:39 sledgeas nope, just continued my work
16:40 PanTerra I m not an gentoo expert, but something say it can be some dependencies or a bug in apache
16:40 sledgeas i will monitor how it goes on, and will have you informed
16:40 sledgeas just thought you guys might be aware of such case yet
16:40 PanTerra be sure and do a memtest\
16:40 PanTerra memory can get corrupted from 1 moment to the other
16:41 PanTerra simple and cheap to fix
16:41 sledgeas ktxby :)
16:41 PanTerra np
16:42 PanTerra @dinsdale how can i get this directory as filelinks on a page ?
16:42 dinsdale07 :Panterra you know how to get the username as a string?
16:43 PanTerra yep i think so, in my menu I change a pagetitle to the username
16:43 PanTerra so if this is the same i know
16:43 dinsdale07 http://paste.phlogi.net/loginout/
16:43 dinsdale07 ok, doesn
16:44 dinsdale07 't help a lot yet. But I'm thinking of asigning the value of username to the typolink and then just wrap it with the directory manually.
16:45 PanTerra ok
16:45 dinsdale07 :Panterra check in the reference under parameters. There is the filelink/filerefs option
16:47 PanTerra do i do this from pagecontent ?
16:47 PanTerra u mean the tsref ?
16:47 dinsdale07 :Panterra, if you just assign the username to the parameter and then stdwrap it with the url to the directory and the .xls ending
16:47 PanTerra that should do the trick
16:48 dinsdale07 correct - my typoscript is pretty useless I think, just gives you the username in a weired way.
16:49 PanTerra 10.data = TSFE:fe_user|user|username this would give me the username
16:49 davidbrunnthaler hiho i'm using smoothgallery and i'm having a little problem right now..
16:49 davidbrunnthaler it already worked fine
16:49 dinsdale07 :davidbrunnthaler - welcome to the club
16:49 PanTerra welcome
16:50 davidbrunnthaler but now i removed the images from the director and put others in it
16:50 dinsdale07 :PanTerra and then .stdWrap.wrap = fileadmin/somedir/
16:50 dinsdale07 | .cls
16:50 dinsdale07 in one line - ... or something like that.
16:50 davidbrunnthaler and now i'm getting:
16:51 davidbrunnthaler Warning</b>: exec() has been disabled for security reasons in <b>/www/htdocs/w009c176/t3lib/class.t3lib_stdgraphic.php</b> on line <b>2532</b>
16:51 davidbrunnthaler as error
16:51 PanTerra ok can I also do ../../../mydata/overtime/|.xls ?
16:51 davidbrunnthaler and the whole thing won't show the thumbs and the pics
16:51 PanTerra or is typo secured and wont allow ../../
16:51 PanTerra ?
16:51 davidbrunnthaler does someone what to do?
16:51 dinsdale07 I think so - according to the tsref I think it just takes the string. I mean you will see it in the source code.
16:52 dinsdale07 :PanTerra, at the end - You just could do it with a TEXT element and wrapping.
16:52 dinsdale07 :PanTerra I think that's even easier.
16:52 dinsdale07 10 = TEXT
16:52 dinsdale07 10.value = your thing with the username
16:53 PanTerra that is doable
16:53 dinsdale07 10.value.wrap = <a>the whole html link thing<a/>
16:53 PanTerra I get the idea
16:54 PanTerra 1 last thing, how do i get this link on a page ?
16:55 PanTerra all pages isn`t a problem, the menu isn`t a problem but just 1 page :S
16:56 PanTerra do i just put in a some element and add the TS ?
16:56 dinsdale07 If you have a typoscript object that renders the page or this element you just make sure you have a COA and then add your snippet at the end.
16:57 PanTerra ok i`l give it a go
16:57 PanTerra thank you for your time
16:57 dinsdale07 look at my snippet, that's an COA int but the idea is the same. If you don't have an object - I think there is an extension which allows you to write typoscript as content element
16:58 PanTerra @<davidbrunnthaler> looks like a security issue
16:58 dinsdale07 :PanTerra - you're welcome.
16:58 PanTerra i`l try to find this extension looks handy
16:58 davidbrunnthaler mhm 2 days ago i had problems with the rights management
16:59 dinsdale07 :I never used it but i saw it somewhere in the repository
16:59 davidbrunnthaler i'll call the host
16:59 PanTerra @davidbrunnthaler try to clear the cache
16:59 davidbrunnthaler already did that
16:59 PanTerra maybe it tries to find the old images
16:59 davidbrunnthaler also deleted the two files in typo3conf
17:00 dinsdale07 :davidbrunnthaler - maybe compare the permissions first before calling,or switch back to the old direcotry whether it now has also the problem
17:00 davidbrunnthaler mh i didn't switch the directory
17:00 davidbrunnthaler i deleted the pics in the directory and uploaded new ones
17:01 PanTerra maybe the host has changed some settings, just make the call to check if they did something
17:01 dinsdale07 I see - well try a 777, that should rule out a permission problem
17:01 PanTerra i spent several hours on a bug that had happened somehow, the host fixed it in 5 min
17:02 PanTerra never use 777 on a online site
17:02 PanTerra maximum should be 755
17:02 PanTerra or 754
17:02 dinsdale07 My problem with smoothgallery - i want to crop the thumbnails and images but it doesn't crop the images for me anymore.
17:02 davidbrunnthaler i think the thumbs from the gallery are stored into typo3temp/pics
17:02 davidbrunnthaler and i already tried a 777
17:02 dinsdale07 :Panterra - I meant just for testing.
17:02 davidbrunnthaler but no solution to the problem
17:03 PanTerra I m still working the smoothgallery out
17:03 PanTerra for testing it is ok
17:03 PanTerra but dont forget to change it back
17:04 PanTerra in here I have a private server not online so i use 777 all the time in development
17:04 dinsdale07 I can't have 755 on typo3 unless it belongs to www-data. At least for the directories fileadmin typo3conf and typotemp
17:04 PanTerra when the site is done i will set the permissions somewhat more strict
17:04 dinsdale07 am I wrong here?
17:05 PanTerra 1 moment
17:06 PanTerra Run these commands as root in the cms/ directory: (quote from the install file)
17:06 PanTerra chgrp -R <wwwserver> fileadmin typo3conf typo3temp uploads
17:06 PanTerra chmod -R g+w,o-rwx fileadmin typo3conf typo3temp uploads
17:07 PanTerra 5.b (insecure but easy to apply)
17:07 PanTerra I repeat: This is insecure!
17:07 PanTerra chmod -R a+w fileadmin typo3conf typo3temp uploads
17:07 dinsdale07 ur right - it's also in my tut:
17:07 dinsdale07 http://www.howtoforge.com/typo3_on_ispconfig
17:09 PanTerra ok i have to go
17:09 davidbrunnthaler thx for your help
17:09 PanTerra thanks for the help and good luck
17:09 davidbrunnthaler i called the hoster and he is changing something in the .htaccess and than it should work again
17:09 davidbrunnthaler at least i hope so
17:11 mokmoks :)
17:13 dinsdale07 cu :Panterra
17:14 dinsdale07 :davidbrunnthaler are you using cropping in your image gallery?
17:14 davidbrunnthaler nope
17:14 davidbrunnthaler sry
17:14 dinsdale07 :-) no problem
17:14 davidbrunnthaler btw it's working again
17:14 davidbrunnthaler thx
17:15 mokmoks hi i need some help.
17:16 davidbrunnthaler just tell us your problem. maybe we can help. maybe we can't
17:16 davidbrunnthaler but you'll never know if you don't ask
17:17 mokmoks i create my own extension. and when i save the content of that record the html tag had been change.
17:18 dinsdale07 :mokmos - the link?
17:19 mokmoks yap. <a></a> was change to <link> </link> and the attribute target was gone.
17:20 dinsdale07 hm, sounds like it's running through typolink ... but if you got that going you are alredy a better developer than me :-)
17:20 mokmoks im newbies with typo3
17:20 davidbrunnthaler are you using typolink?
17:20 davidbrunnthaler or how do you create links
17:21 mokmoks the record content accept html tags.
17:21 mokmoks but when it save to the DB tags have changed
17:22 dinsdale07 :mokmoks this is not a FCE in templavoila?
17:22 mokmoks customized extension
17:22 mokmoks i used kick starter
17:23 dinsdale07 ok
17:24 skipjack hello
17:26 mokmoks hi skipjack
17:26 skipjack I have fork tt_products by renaming all classes / files and referenzes from tt_products to tt_freiraum (my name of the ext.) but it doesn't work correct.. I have also changed the addplugin id 5=> 7 but at the frontend I don't see anything of the plugin.. only the Header which creates Typo3 is displayed
17:28 Phlogi__ did you know about http://www.typo3extensions.org/?
17:30 skipjack it looks like that my fork doens't run the pi1/class...php fiel
17:31 dinsdale07 :mokmoks - That field from the database - In the kickstarter, which field type does it have?
17:38 mokmoks i add new tables for that extension.
17:39 mokmoks its text type field.
17:39 mokmoks its a frontend extension..
17:40 dinsdale07 so you enter pure html in that field?
17:40 mokmoks you can actually add html tags content on that record.
17:41 mokmoks i mean with html tags content
17:41 dinsdale07 To set it to link and let typo3 handle the link building is no option?
17:42 mokmoks nope. pure html
17:43 mokmoks but when saving the record <a> tags will change into <link> .
17:43 dinsdale07 yep - I think that's the standard way typo3 would save a link from a RTE field into the database
17:43 mokmoks i see.
17:44 dinsdale07 look up transformation which describes this process if I remember correctly
17:44 mokmoks so when display the record on the page. the link was gone
17:45 mokmoks so what do u suggest?
17:46 dinsdale07 I would try the differnt field options - there is for example text area - no wrapping, have you tried this? I don't know what it does but you somehow have to tell typo3 not to think it has to work with your field.
17:46 mokmoks i see
17:47 mokmoks i havent tried it
17:47 dinsdale07 Another way I could think of is with the allow tags but this could conflict with your RTE so maybe try all the fields first.
17:48 mokmoks i will try!
17:48 mokmoks thank u so much.
17:48 mokmoks opss. one more thing!
17:49 mokmoks i add another plugins in the same extension.
17:49 dinsdale07 I don't know whether that helps I never used text field.
17:49 mokmoks why is i cant edit the record . once it is saved?
17:50 dinsdale07 mokmoks: you can't do that with "extended view" in the list view?
17:51 mokmoks yes
17:51 mokmoks its give me headache
17:53 mokmoks the edit option is there. but when i click edit. it doesnt display the record
18:09 mokmoks dinsdale07 thanks
18:09 mokmoks ye folks
18:09 mokmoks bye folks
18:31 skipjack Hello,
18:32 skipjack I tried to fork tt_products I tried to rename all to tt_freiraum.. the pi1/ class is loaded but the main fuction is never called..
18:32 skipjack How could this be?
18:33 Amr0d hi
18:40 Amr0d what can i do if my installation of typo3 shows me a blank page on the first step? i assume its the first step since it shows me a blank page :)
18:41 void Amr0d: look at the apache error log
18:45 Amr0d ok, i am trying to find it :)
18:45 crisb2010 has anyone used zend guard together with typo3 or a typo3 extension?
18:46 void crisb2010: is it for crypting?
18:46 crisb2010 void: yes, it is
18:47 void crisb2010: typo3 is licensed under GPL. why do you need to crypt it?
18:47 crisb2010 i should be more specific: i am not planning on crypting typo3 but a extension
18:48 void crisb2010: and sell your ext. then? -)
18:48 Phlogi__ what do you guys think about http://www.typo3extensions.org ?
18:48 Phlogi__ void: ries :)
18:48 crisb2010 there are the extensions that you can give out to the public,but there are also extensions that you want to keep to yourself :)
18:49 ries hey Phlogi__
18:49 crisb2010 better said: you want to keep the code to yourself
18:49 Phlogi__ ries: hey man, whats your opinion about the site?
18:49 ries crisb2010: this has been discussed on the mailing list....
18:49 Phlogi__ I will give him some feedback very soon
18:50 void crisb2010: i think that's illegal. your code is based on the GPLed TYPO3. you can install your extension on the client's machines, but client may make your ext to be public... that's normal
18:50 Phlogi__ the most important thing is to translate the whole thing to english! imho
18:50 ries Bottom line is that you are allowed to crypt it, but you need to give to source to your lcoients are soon as they ask for it
18:50 crisb2010 ries: otherwise it would be illegal?
18:50 Amr0d damn, i should learn to handle this plesk thing, i can't find an apache log :(
18:50 ries void: crypring GPL software by itself is not legal....
18:51 crisb2010 do you have a link to the discussion?
18:51 ries crisb2010: yes... if you are not giving the source when they ask for it it's illegal...
18:51 crisb2010 because of the typo3 license i guess
18:51 ries no, because of GPL....
18:52 ries your are not obligated to give it to the public ofcourse....
18:52 dinsdale07 I think it's pretty clear in the GPL if you read the text - you have to give the user the same rights you had when you received the software.
18:52 void Phlogi__: i personally think that mediawiki is not the right thing for that...
18:52 Phlogi__ void: yes I somehow agree, it rather should be integrated more anyway!
18:53 crisb2010 thanks for the hint, going to read the wiki article about gpl later
18:53 ries Phlogi__: it shows once a agin that TYPO3 is a german efford.... nobody outside of germany can read this : http://www.typo3extensions.org/
18:53 dinsdale07 it's actually quite pleasant to read :-) compared to other licenses.
18:53 ries crisb2010: there are some tricks around GPL though.... but they will cost you performance
18:53 ries dinsdale07: BSD is really good for companies.....
18:53 crisb2010 ries: what do you mean?
18:54 Phlogi__ ries: exactly... I will contact him about this... It really needs to be translated to english, and english needs to be the default language!
18:54 dinsdale07 I think he means that when you distribute it seperately
18:54 chefan crisb2010: if you want to keep your code you might look for lgpl'ed platforms or bsd style licenses
18:54 ries crisb2010: if you de-couple your code completely... and don't call ANY TYPO3 API's it's possible... for example you can write a TYPO3 extension that calls your 'private/protected/non-GPL code over a webservice
18:55 chefan but actually, trying to lock away your code in php is not very effective anyway
18:55 chefan if you want to work around gpl, the easiest way to do so is bad formatting and no comments
18:55 crisb2010 this is the first time i am thinking about this stuff. never needed it before. but thanks for all your comments
18:55 ries chefan: That depends... if you have a peace of really good software you want to sell per license then I can imagine you want to protect it....
18:56 chefan no sane developer will touch your work anyway in that case
18:56 crisb2010 <ries> absolutely true.
18:56 Phlogi__ chefan: do you remeber my story about the comments extension? :)
18:56 chefan ries: in that case it might be best to do it in c++ for instance and connect it via cgi
18:56 Amr0d 92.227.190.25 admin [2008-08-11 18:22:10] 'Delete database' ('Database name': 'philipp_gallerie' => '', 'Database server': '1' => '')
18:56 Amr0d 92.227.190.25 admin [2008-08-11 18:22:10] 'Update database server' ()
18:57 ries chefan: Not if you can't program C :)
18:57 chefan hmm, a hint, Phlogi__ ?
18:57 Amr0d well, thats my log void ^^
18:57 Phlogi__ chefan: the author finally added the needed changes :)
18:57 Amr0d sorry for posting it that fast
18:57 chefan there is the point, ries, i don't see much sense in trying to hide code in php
18:57 crisb2010 chefan is it that unsecure?
18:57 chefan ahh, cool :)
18:57 void i know a reason for hiding php code
18:58 ries chefan: may be you don't ... but others do ;)
18:58 void because of its uglyness
18:58 chefan crisb2010: it's a script, and personally i would not trust it with applications in a size where hiding the code is not much more work than taking it apart again
18:58 chefan lol, void :D
18:59 chefan and what i wrote there does not make sense
18:59 ries chefan: if it's your own code you properly would trust it.... and if you sell 10.000USD licenses to people
18:59 crisb2010 would the extension work together with typo3 flawless?
19:00 chefan forget it, i am too lazy to sort out what i wanted to say
19:00 crisb2010 flawlessly :)
19:00 ries and you see it get's copied you are not happy.... and tehre are quite some people taht still steal code because they are living in countries where laws in that area are bad....
19:00 Amr0d void, is that the information you needed? i can't find another log because this server is pretty new to me and i have some lack of knowlegde about it i think
19:00 chefan ries: well, i profit from open source and i develop in open source. different approach
19:01 void Amr0d: no... it's not a error log
19:01 Amr0d hmm
19:01 crisb2010 ries: you are absolutely right. and when your code got copied only one time, i guess thats it with your revenue
19:01 ries chefan: I do to....
19:01 crisb2010 chefan: so do i
19:01 chefan i get paid for getting the work done, not for my supposed geniality in inventing new things which probably aren't anyway
19:01 ries That's why BSD license is really nice....
19:01 chefan yes, i like that too
19:03 chefan it's a bit a matter of ego too. it's uncommon that a client uses complex solutions out of the box. and if i can get the developer of open source to do the adaption for my use case for a reasonable price, that's way cool
19:03 dinsdale07 Do I get this right - BSD generally gives you the choice whether you want to publish the source code or not?
19:04 chefan closed source is more for universal modules that don't need customizing
19:04 chefan dinsdale07: bsd license is close to "do whatever you want in the context you like". it does not impose inheritance of license
19:04 crisb2010 i dont know how of you speaks german, but there is a paragraph in the gnu that sounds pretty strange
19:05 chefan and personally i doubt if trying to develop something universally usefull makes sense
19:05 chefan i do.
19:05 chefan to which paragraph do you refer?
19:05 dinsdale07 like the "viral" of GPL. But another though - if typo3 was BSD - do you think we would have the same amount of extensions as we have now?
19:05 crisb2010 Kopien des Programms d?rfen kostenlos oder auch gegen Geld verteilt werden, wobei der Quellcode mitverteilt oder dem Empf?nger des Programms auf Anfrage zum Selbstkostenpreis zur Verf?gung gestellt werden muss.
19:05 chefan yes
19:06 chefan what's unclear with that?
19:06 crisb2010 there they are talking about the original costs
19:06 chefan nope
19:06 crisb2010 but who knows how high these costs are
19:06 chefan price of the cd, diskette, whatever
19:06 crisb2010 ah, ok
19:06 ries GPL is only nice if you own teh copyright of all teh source....
19:07 chefan you may sell a distribution for instance for 10.000$
19:07 ries there are huge companies build around BSD... something you don't see with GPL (unless that company owns the code)
19:07 chefan no problem, but if someone asks you to hand over the source code in whatever way that suits you, you have to comply
19:07 ries dinsdale07: I think we would have more and higher quality extensions in TER... yes
19:08 dinsdale07 :chefan - i would imagine more a situation where bigger typo3 shops would keep extensions to themselves and specialize for competitive reasons.
19:08 chefan dinsdale07: to be honest, i am more reluctant to publish my works under GPL than i am under BSD
19:08 chefan dinsdale07: you can be sure that happens too right now
19:09 chefan gpl does not force you to advertise on MTV what you developed
19:09 chefan and there is no way to force you HOW exactly to grant access to the source
19:09 dinsdale07 that I understand - but your client you sold the product to would have the right himself to publish it or go with it to another developer
19:09 crisb2010 chefan does it really mean i can ask anyone to hand over his extension?
19:10 chefan you just have to grant access, and IF you publish, you have to include it
19:10 ries dinsdale07: the extension would be still on TER for sales perpose....
19:10 chefan if anyone published an extension on typo3 anywhere, by license you have all the right to ask for the sources
19:11 Phlogi damn linux damn damn :D
19:11 chefan since his extension inherits the GPL
19:11 dinsdale07 :ries that's not allowed in the ter - that's why yaml had to go. it's open source but the license does not comply to the GPL
19:11 crisb2010 sounds pretty freaky
19:11 chefan all this license crap is pretty weird anyway
19:11 ries dinsdale07: well... that if TYPO3 was BSD and TER would support that ofcourse....
19:12 dinsdale07 do you know a BSD cms?
19:12 crisb2010 is yaml for typo3 free?
19:12 chefan mixed license products can drive you crazy, with all the license-interfaces to glue them together in a way that does not void all of them in a big *poof*
19:13 dinsdale07 :crisb2010 no, it's a creative commen license with a commercial klausel.
19:15 chefan dinsdale07: http://www.silverstripe.com/
19:15 chefan though i haven't worked with it yet
19:16 dinsdale07 actually thinking about it with yaml - If I plug these two together and sell a product to a client using yaml, since Typo3 is GPL all derived products shoudl be GPL as well.
19:16 dinsdale07 So you can't actually use it and comply to the GPL in the "next generation"
19:17 crisb2010 dinsdale07 confusing isnt it?
19:17 chefan the "trick" is how software is "infected" with gpl
19:18 chefan interfacing itself does not infect a product with gpl
19:18 chefan integrating does
19:18 chefan for instance: i could create a flash app that has a certain functionality
19:19 chefan plus a configurable extension that loads flash apps and offers connector interfaces for flash apps
19:19 dinsdale07 yaml for typo3 however is a extension which integrates into Typo3. I install it in the extension Manager.
19:19 chefan as long as i distribute them separately, the extension will inherit the gpl, but not the flash app
19:20 chefan well, that's why i like BSD or creative commons style licenses
19:20 chefan i am a developer, i never wanted to be a lawyer
19:20 dinsdale07 as an extension from Typo3 it also uses function calls from Typo3.
19:20 chefan that's what i was talking about. you can separate the stuff
19:20 dinsdale07 :chefan word up! :-)
19:21 chefan make an interface extension in typo3 with a defined interface
19:21 chefan use the same interface definition on a seperate component
19:22 dinsdale07 ok I see - but as soon as I sell a product - a website in typo3 to a client it's not seperable anymore.
19:22 chefan thereby you have a technical as well as legal bridge into gpl-land
19:22 chefan that's more a question how you write the bill
19:23 chefan look, i could create a license stating, that any software kept on the same shelf in a store would inherit it
19:23 chefan but it would never be legal nor enforcable
19:23 chefan and i realise, i am already too much of a lawyer...
19:23 Amr0d void: i found my apache error log, what do you want to know?
19:24 dinsdale07 :chefan - you seem to have a pretty good grip on it - but you're right. Back to work
19:24 chefan or wait - lunch break
19:24 chefan even better
19:24 dinsdale07 I leave it for the Stammtisch :-)
19:24 dinsdale07 just after emacs vs vi
19:24 chefan rofl
19:25 chefan well, there is a distinct difference between the topics. emacs/vi is a matter of taste, licensing and software patents can endanger your job if you fuck it up
20:27 chefan dinsdale07: this license talk was fun
20:27 chefan i thought a bit while lunch and decided i'll create a license of my own
20:27 chefan based on common sense
20:30 dinsdale07 Please conform to below license code:
20:30 dinsdale07 Just be human with it and don't harrass your users
20:31 chefan well
20:31 dinsdale07 your in the US - because lunch?
20:31 chefan that's not sooo far from my ideas :D
20:31 chefan south america
20:32 dinsdale07 I'm German, as so many here - but live in Quebec.
20:32 chefan i am german too
20:33 chefan lol
20:33 chefan looks like germany is less popular with germans lately
20:33 chefan some day it will end up being a governement without a people
20:34 chefan the idea with the licens was that i think the off the hook license is unrealistic
20:35 chefan it tells whoever is using the code what their rights are
20:35 dinsdale07 Do people know typo3 in S America?
20:35 chefan yes, the platform is used by the company i work for for instance
20:35 chefan creating systems mainly for the governement
20:36 dinsdale07 In quebec it's not the first time that I hear - Yeah heard it before, something complicated that the governement uses.
20:36 dinsdale07 hehe - re
20:36 chefan lol
20:36 dinsdale07 ur around later? - my mom's birthday today, gotta socialize.
20:37 chefan in a couple of hours i assume
20:37 chefan greetings to your mum
20:37 dinsdale07 thx, will deliver it :-)
20:41 Faulix I have 3 languages, the first one is the default language
20:41 Faulix now i want that if there is no content for the third language it should use the second language
20:41 Faulix how can i manage that?
20:46 void with options sys_language_*
20:47 void Faulix:
20:47 void config.sys_language_*
20:49 Faulix but the default language is still my first
20:49 Faulix only if there is no content it will show the second language?
20:53 void Faulix: typo3 have language fallback possibilities
20:54 void Faulix: read the l10n_guide for detailed explanation
20:56 Faulix but config.sys_language_* changes the complete default language, or? so if i go on my site this language will be shown?
21:01 void sys_language_mode, sys_language_overlay. read about that options.
21:19 nhaskins Hi
21:19 nhaskins My Typo3 install was working fine yesterday, but today when I try to open the login page (domain.com/typo3/index.php) I get a PHP error message
21:19 nhaskins Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/Users/<removed>/tmp) is not within the allowed path(s): (/Users/<removed>/:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php:/tmp) in /Users/<removed>/public_html/typo3/typo3/index.php on line 202
21:19 nhaskins Fatal error: session_start() [<a href='function.session-start'>function.session-start</a>]: Failed to initialize storage module: files (path: ) in /Users/<removed>/public_html/typo3/typo3/index.php on line 202
21:19 nhaskins I've checked the file index.php and there's no reference to "imades5/tmp"
21:19 nhaskins Lines 201 - 203 refered to in the error is
21:19 nhaskins // Save challenge value in session data (thanks to Bernhard Kraft for providing code):
21:19 nhaskins session_start();
21:19 nhaskins $_SESSION['login_challenge'] = $challenge;
21:25 nhaskins It mysteriously works again!????
21:25 nhaskins Sorry
22:01 ckoehler nhaskins: it's a php config option
22:01 ckoehler sessions are writting to a tmp dir
22:02 ckoehler in your case Users/<removed>/tmp
22:02 ckoehler and for some reason, php wasn't allowed to
22:02 ckoehler probably because your host change something temporarliy
22:02 ckoehler temporarily
22:03 nhaskins yeah, I talked to my webhost about it
22:03 nhaskins They said it was accessing something outside my account (/Users/<removed>/tmp)
22:04 nhaskins I know I accessed it via domain.com/typo3/index.html as opposed to index.php and it started working again
22:04 nhaskins maybe coincedence?
22:10 anton hi there, i want to define a scetion in Templa voila, but i can only chose Container for Elements ...
22:10 anton section i mean
22:14 anton found out myself ...
23:01 swemark Evning
23:01 swemark chefan: started your reverse proxysetup yet?
23:16 Faulix void content_fallback is great, but how can i reach the same effect with the navigation?
23:18 void Faulix: try to add following line into your localconf.php:
23:18 void $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['FE']['hidePagesIfNotTranslatedByDefault'] = true;
23:41 Suprano hi there
23:43 Suprano is it normal that the link to the full list of extension takes more then 1 minute to load?
23:43 Suprano this link: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/fulllist/
23:44 anton i cannot get the FE login to work. I set everything up, but at the standart login i cannot login...

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