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00:44 chefan_ beat2: the online documentation is there, but scattered
00:44 chefan_ though i haven't found anything generic, basic and up to date yet which would serve as THE reference
00:45 chefan_ what's your primary intended task? overall understanding, templating, site building from components, extension development?
00:46 beat2 all of them
00:47 chefan in that case i think a look at michal stuckis diagram of the frontend rendering process would be a good start
00:47 chefan it gives a good overview how typo3 works "on the client front"
00:48 chefan and it helps doing codebase searches if you can't find good documentation about a given topic
00:48 chefan that and the tutorials should get you on the way, no matter which direction it is
00:50 beat2 the tutorials linked from typo3.org i've allready read
00:50 chefan http://buzz.typo3.org/people/stucki/article/typo3-frontend-rendering-explained/
00:51 beat2 thanks. do you have other good links for me?
00:54 beat2 expecially for TypoScript
00:57 chefan nope, sorry. i just know the TypoScript documentation on the main site and a bunch of scattered mailing list bits & pieces
00:59 chefan but generally typoscript is fairly straightforward, so it should not be too difficult to reach the point where you can ask qualified detail questions about it
00:59 chefan it is not necessary to know everything in any case, since there are usualy mor ways to do things
01:00 beat2 in fact i have much more problems in learning TS than i had with c++, php or languages like that....
01:00 chefan lol
01:00 chefan that was to be expected
01:01 chefan maybe it's better not to see it as a programming language
01:01 chefan more like a content type setter and markup language
01:02 chefan you define bits and pieces of the pages with it, the logic belongs in php classes. at least like i see it
01:04 beat2 as a typo extension?
01:14 beat2 i'm off now. it's late in the night where i live...
01:14 beat2 thanks for your help
07:57 HardPhuck plugin.tt_news.displaySingle.linksItem_stdWrap.ATagParams = class="demo"
07:57 HardPhuck is this correct?
08:12 HardPhuck or should i do this linksItem_stdWrap.typolink.ATagParams = class="demo"
08:12 HardPhuck either way it seems to be wrong because it does not work
08:37 HardPhuck aaargh
08:37 HardPhuck :)
08:38 HardPhuck going crazy
08:38 HardPhuck i love the tt_news but i hate to configure it properly
08:42 ManDay Is it by any means possible to implement an RTE into the frontend?
08:45 dinsdale07 This extension suggests yes: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/?tx_terfe_pi1[view]=search&no_cache=1&tx_terfe_pi1[sword]=fe_rtenews
08:46 dinsdale07 I've never used it though although it sounds interesting.
08:49 ManDay thank you
08:50 dinsdale07 Does anyone know Drupal and TYPO3? I will have to decide for a project "social portal" which route to take and would appreciate some advice.
08:56 HardPhuck any expert on TS here?
09:01 dinsdale07 Maybe to refrase my question - Does anyone know a website in Typo3 that does Eventmanagement for Front End Users, where FE users can subscribe to Events. (cal implementation)
09:07 HardPhuck enyone ever used general_stdWrap in tt_news to configure it?
10:10 swemark Hello
10:29 nkuttler does somebody know of an ext that shoes google maps and takes addresses as a parameter (v.s. lat/longitude)?
10:29 nkuttler s/shoes/shows/
10:29 HardPhuck how do i add a class to the "back" link in tt_news
10:30 nkuttler hm, you edit the template?
10:35 HardPhuck you cant
10:36 HardPhuck <!--###LINK_ITEM###-->Back<!--###LINK_ITEM###-->
10:36 HardPhuck you can't edit this any further
10:36 nkuttler hm, that sucks. so trick it <div class="foobar><!###LINK_ITEM...</div> ?
10:36 nkuttler then in the css div.foobar a {}
10:37 No5251 hi
10:37 No5251 tt_news generates the class "news-single-backlink"
10:39 HardPhuck no, i need the class to be in <a> not in <div>
10:39 nkuttler why?
10:41 HardPhuck becaue the site is a professional one and as such does not need more divs than absolutely needed
10:42 HardPhuck i dont want the code to be cluttered with divs
10:42 No5251 then use div.news-single-backlink a {}
10:42 nkuttler ah, i see. getting things done vs. doing things right.
10:42 No5251 hehe
10:43 HardPhuck yes
10:43 nkuttler well, dig deeper then ;)
10:43 HardPhuck and since this is a high budget site i want it to be pro
10:44 HardPhuck i will :D
11:03 m4rtijn hi all
11:04 nkuttler ok, the wec map ext takes real addresses, good
11:04 nkuttler moin
11:16 xN33D guys, someone gave me a wrapper for a menu, but i want to know what these things mean..
11:16 xN33D allWrap = <div class="item_home">|</div> <img src="clear.gif" height="10px" width="113px"> |*||*| <div class="item_other"> | </div> || <div class="item_last"> | </div>
11:17 xN33D like: |*||*|
11:17 xN33D and ||
11:19 nkuttler xN33D: ttp://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/3/1/#id3927888
11:20 xN33D thanks, OptionSplit.. ok :) i will take a look
11:22 HardPhuck any php gurus here
11:43 shocksi does anybody have experience with workspaces?
11:44 shocksi the sending of emails does not work if the status of the workspaces changes.
11:44 shocksi i setup the mail adresses for the users. but nothing happebs
11:53 m4rtijn does sendmail work?
11:53 m4rtijn shocksi - did u test the sendmail in the installtool?
12:01 HardPhuck this is science fiction
12:01 HardPhuck i'm trying to add a class to <a> tag to the back link in tt_news
12:06 HardPhuck sprintf($this->pi_getLL('backToList', '', $this->conf['hscBackLink']), $backP['title']);
12:06 HardPhuck how should i rewrite this to be able to add a class into the anchor link
12:09 shocksi m4rtijn. yes sendmail works
12:14 XiXora hello, anyone ever been able to db mount just a folder but exclude a few folders which are underneath it
12:31 animan hi. i have a CSS issue where IE6 shows a huge cap between two divs. is there any nice tool for IE6 to ease this bugfixing?
12:35 Mirrakor it's called uninstaller *duck**hide*
12:36 XiXora Mirrakor: not to cramp your style, but its baked into the os iirc ;)
12:37 Mirrakor XiXora: it's a legal trick, so they dont have to remove it >:) (as they actually should acording to a lawsuit)
12:40 dinsdale07 I'm trying to post a new thread to the typo3-english list but my Thunderbird says it only supports e-mail recipients and it will ignore the newsgroup. I can reply find to threads...
12:41 animan :D if i only could recommend this sweet "tool" for all end-users later :P
12:41 dinsdale07 /s/find/fine
12:42 dinsdale07 forget the above - I used the wrong account in Thunderbird, not the one I created for the list. Sorry.
12:48 martijn re
12:51 HardPhuck $markerArray['###NAZAJ###'] = sprintf($this->pi_getLL('backToList', '', $this->conf['hscBackLink']), $backP['title']);
12:51 HardPhuck how would i put class="something" into this anchor
12:52 HardPhuck this is the back to link in tt_news
12:52 HardPhuck or can it be done via TS?
12:52 HardPhuck which i doubt :)
13:05 HardPhuck lol there is no to-do list because i'm almost done, some tweaks and that's it
13:06 nkuttler i see... not sure what that php means, i'd try to get some debugging info and see if it's at all possible without patching the ext
13:07 HardPhuck i don't mind patching the source code, i have done it before
13:07 HardPhuck almost every ext i install :)
13:07 nkuttler well, i'd rather deliver an imperfect css than having my client to depend on a patched ext... unless you got a support contract that is
13:08 HardPhuck well those patcher are minor thingies like removing hardcoded classes
13:09 HardPhuck or adding them for that matter\
13:09 HardPhuck because i get css from a designer and i don't touch it
13:11 FloLeBlanc hi all
13:11 m4rtijn hi flo
13:11 FloLeBlanc hi m4rtijn
13:12 FloLeBlanc did anyone ever experience the issue that under ie7 and vista after the t3 frontend login, clicking on another link logs the user off again? (seems like the cookie isn't preserved - on other sites like on forums on different sites it works however)
13:13 XiXora m4rtijn: youre a resident genius arent you?
13:18 rwa1 hi there, any easy way to add typoscript code with an extension (while the page is rendering)
13:18 rwa1 ?
13:19 m4rtijn XiXora: nope
13:20 m4rtijn im resident evil
13:20 m4rtijn I'll be back later
13:20 XiXora heh
13:25 nkuttler rwa1: try the tscobj ext
13:35 rwa1 thx nkuttler, but i need it for my extension
13:35 rwa1 but i think that is impossible
13:36 rwa1 because i need to change the typoscript right before the other extension will use it
13:36 Horttcore lo everyone
13:38 Phlogi_ swemark: ping
13:41 Fanty Hey. Anyone know Extension Language Editor (a4n_edit_locallang)? I can
13:42 Fanty I can't get it to not fuck up the charsets when saving :(
13:46 swemark pong
13:46 swemark Phlogi_, how are you mate?
13:47 swemark Fanty, try using llxml instead
13:47 swemark Otherwise it might be a setting in typo3 install-tool
13:47 swemark utf8 something
13:49 Fanty swemark: llxml is not acceptable since the people doing the translations can't find the locallang files using it. Typo3 is set to utf-8 in the install tool
13:51 swemark and the locales exist on the server?
13:52 Fanty locales? the entire site is working right now - and database is in utf8 as well
13:53 Phlogi_ swemark: hey :) I'm fine... you still enjoy kde4?
13:54 Phlogi_ swemark: I was porting this kde io typo3 module to qt4/kde4 last weekend
13:55 swemark absolutely, i got it working with exchange today aswell
13:55 swemark you did?
13:55 swemark sweet
13:55 swemark working?
13:56 swemark Fanty, ok, could it be a extension-bug?
13:59 Fanty swemark: perhaps... don't have time for other peoples bugs right now /cry
13:59 swemark True, well, if it is theres nothing you can do
14:00 swemark except for trying to find the right utf8_encode() utf8_decode() in the pi1
14:00 swemark if there are any
14:00 swemark otherwise try to add them to the input
14:00 swemark or go for another extension :)
14:01 swemark Phlogi_, !
14:01 swemark me want!
14:01 Fanty problem is I can't find any other extensions that offers a desent selection of extensions and doesn't just throw out a humongous list of locallang files the user with limited system experience can do anything with
14:02 swemark what kind of characters does it "save"
14:02 swemark does it just delete the chars?
14:03 swemark or is it scrambled?
14:05 Fanty its the usual scrambling of æøå
14:07 Phlogi_ swemark: hmm I fixed over 30 qt errors, then finally got it compiling... but its not working yet... i already fixed a first issue thoguh... I hope the original author will keep helping me :)
14:07 Fanty ie. æ turns into several weird chars - just as it would if you looked at an UTF-8 encoded file as it was ISO-8859-1
14:07 Phlogi_ swemark: nope... extensions seems fine... although the code is not perfect, the guys says itself
14:08 Phlogi_ swemark: ah you wanna try it out when its finished? :)
14:13 swemark Fanty, then there are missing/extra utf8_decode() in the extension php file
14:13 swemark Phlogi_, absolutely
14:13 Phlogi_ swemark: hehe be patient then... maybe I'll try to implement more in qt4 first ... because its libcurl that makes problems atm
14:13 swemark Not having to login on every single site we have just to fix something small would be most excellent and save me alot of time
14:14 Phlogi_ swemark: hehe, yes... you need to still login but its more confortable
14:14 swemark I would help you, but my coding is way below something useful
14:15 swemark Phlogi_, im sure there are someway to make it login by itself :)
14:15 Phlogi_ swemark: I thought mine is better too... gg I really felt dumb when ppl in qt channel were telling me to leran c++ :D
14:15 swemark haha
14:15 Phlogi_ swemark: you can use kwallet for it :)
14:15 swemark yeah
14:15 swemark awsome
14:16 francism hi
14:18 francism anyone?
14:18 francism is there anyone knows how to use tt_board?
14:21 Phlogi_ swemark: hehe don't expect too much though.. i think it can be mainly used for editing TS ;)
14:21 Phlogi_ typo3 itself has no xml compliant or the like api to talk to it right?
14:22 swemark not yet
14:23 swemark typo3 5 hopefully will
14:23 Phlogi_ yes ok...
14:23 swemark Altough theres a while before it gets released
14:23 swemark But just editing TS will save time
14:23 Phlogi_ swemark: yes indeed
14:24 Phlogi_ But i'm concerned about security issues btw... need to have a look at that afterwards
14:24 swemark Speaking of, we had a sql-injecetion vulnerability in one of our plugins
14:25 swemark its a single-purpose plugin but still
14:25 swemark one of our sites with 200000 visitors daily
14:25 swemark 20000*
14:36 Phlogi_ swemark: hehe not a public extension?
14:37 Phlogi_ swemark: what I'm thinking of was a man in the middle attach with almost full access to typo3 installation as admin ;)
14:37 swemark thatd be fun
14:38 swemark good thing we have a 6tb bavkup server ^^
14:38 swemark Some kind of server-auth might solve it?
14:53 Phlogi_ swemark: yes, the kind is important ;)
14:54 Phlogi test
14:55 Phlogi blub
14:56 JohPie Does anyone knew where I get developer snapshots of the TYPO3 system and extension?
14:59 swemark JohPie, try http://forge.typo3.org/
15:04 swemark not sure though
15:05 XiXora wee
15:05 XiXora geniuses in?
15:08 m4rtijn re
15:08 XiXora the evil one :p
15:08 m4rtijn :p
15:08 XiXora know much about user permissions/access?
15:10 m4rtijn hm?
15:11 m4rtijn typo3 permissions or filesystem permissions
15:11 XiXora well
15:11 XiXora dbmount
15:11 XiXora trying to give a user access to the root dir but i dont want them to have access to absolutely everything underneath
15:12 m4rtijn no, sorry
15:12 XiXora ahh ok
15:12 davidbrunnthaler hiho, i want to extend an extension. in the existing extension i have 2 (flexform) tabs. if i now add a new field (second extension) the new field shows up in the second tab
15:12 davidbrunnthaler how do i tell the second extension where to place the new field?
15:14 m4rtijn I think that depends on the TCA.php file
15:15 davidbrunnthaler i think the row where http://paste.phlogi.net/-cf8a24bb14/ stands (in ext_tables.php of the second extension) does the magic
15:16 davidbrunnthaler as you can see in the phlogi paste i used "--div--;Family," (that's the name of the first tab)
15:16 davidbrunnthaler but instead of adding the 3 fields in the first tab it created a third tab
15:16 davidbrunnthaler now i have "Family", "Contact", "Family"
15:17 davidbrunnthaler if i delete "--div--;Family," it adds the 3 fields in the "Contact" tab
15:49 Jigal anyone any idea how I can get to the $conf which belongs to a Content Element which I have loaded (as a cObj) in an extension?
15:57 XiXora hmm
15:57 XiXora my menu is duplicating
15:57 XiXora but only on one page :s
16:01 swemark Phlogi, what do you use for email?
16:02 swemark Jigal, template analyzer?
16:02 Phlogi swemark: hmm what do you mean? My own hoster... actually
16:02 swemark more like client
16:02 swemark kmail?
16:02 Phlogi swemark: yes kmail
16:03 swemark keeps crashing :/
16:04 swemark doesnt like my settings
16:04 swemark for some reason
16:04 swemark and just crashes randomly
16:04 Phlogi swemark: which settings then? imap?
16:04 Phlogi swemark: yes its not always nice I know
16:04 swemark General settings in kmail
16:04 Phlogi swemark: strange.... hmm
16:04 swemark cant seem to find where to "include" quoted text either
16:04 Phlogi in edit...
16:05 Phlogi here it does per default I think
16:05 Phlogi are you using imap?
16:06 swemark yep
16:06 Jigal swemark: I'm no in Typoscript, but in an extension (and need the data which is normally passed as $conf to main() from another content element)
16:08 Phlogi swemark: kmail + imap really sucks... maybe you wana have a look at mailody
16:08 Phlogi http://www.mailody.net/
16:11 swemark thanks, hope it has import kmail feature
16:13 mosez where is the tt_content layout section defined?
16:14 mosez i wanna add more options to the select box
16:16 m4rtijn re
16:19 davidbrunnthaler how can i make a typolink in "<form action="">? so that RealURL rewrites the link?
16:21 XiXora ooh
16:21 XiXora anyone know the url to the tref concerning [loginuser =*] etc
16:21 XiXora cannae find it
16:22 XiXora aha found it
16:25 mosez grrrr... typo3 and templavoila drives me really crazy...
16:25 XiXora sup?
16:25 XiXora may or may not help here
16:25 XiXora drives me mental too :p
16:26 mosez i can not figure out where i can change the options for the layout select box...
16:26 XiXora ummmmmmmmmm
16:26 XiXora i've no idea
16:26 m4rtijn css ?
16:26 Phlogi davidbrunnthaler: generate the link in your extension?
16:27 davidbrunnthaler jup i generate the link in my extension
16:27 davidbrunnthaler or how do you mean?
16:27 Phlogi davidbrunnthaler: so then realurl will change the link...
16:27 Phlogi davidbrunnthaler: how do you create it in your ext?
16:28 davidbrunnthaler it's not a <a href=""> link
16:28 davidbrunnthaler http://paste.phlogi.net/-05051f8f44/ it's a form i want to submit
16:28 Phlogi davidbrunnthaler: yes use the right function from api... there is one to just create the href link
16:30 davidbrunnthaler do you have a hint where to look? or a link?
16:32 Phlogi davidbrunnthaler: maybe: tslib_pibase::pi_getPageLink
16:32 Phlogi http://doxygen.frozenkiwi.com/typo3/html/
16:35 davidbrunnthaler yupi
16:35 davidbrunnthaler it worked
16:35 davidbrunnthaler thanks Phlogi
16:36 Phlogi davidbrunnthaler: np ;)
16:36 mosez ok, now i've got it...
17:10 XiXora hmm having trouble letting a be user see a general storage folder
17:14 m4rtijn XiXora - a folder or all of em
17:14 XiXora just one folder
17:14 XiXora making it my website user folder
17:14 m4rtijn and you have more then one?
17:14 XiXora just the one
17:14 m4rtijn heh.. ok
17:14 XiXora well i tried general storage
17:14 XiXora didnt work
17:14 XiXora so made another
17:14 XiXora didnt work
17:14 m4rtijn cause the usergroup needs access rights on that folder
17:14 XiXora so gonna make the other folder a user folder
17:14 XiXora ahh
17:14 XiXora good point
17:15 m4rtijn and you need to specify in the access list that the user is able to use the folders
17:17 XiXora heh usergroups arent showing
17:18 m4rtijn just edit the user
17:18 m4rtijn in there u can edit the group
17:19 XiXora already got 12 groups
17:19 XiXora in a usergroup folder
17:19 XiXora bah i shouldnt play with anything lol
17:22 XiXora oh its a permission problem again
17:32 XiXora grr, right. a be user has to be able to create users and give them a usergroup
17:32 XiXora the admin can do it
17:32 XiXora just nonadmin cannot :s
18:30 HardPhuck is it possible to add a class to the "back to list" link in single view of the tt_news
18:30 HardPhuck anyone? "D
18:30 HardPhuck :D
18:36 XiXora yeah
18:36 XiXora i edited the template
18:36 XiXora i think its in t3conf/ext/tt_news
18:36 XiXora i think
18:51 HardPhuck i need to add class to the <a> tag not the <div> tag
18:52 JohPie you can do it with TS
18:53 HardPhuck how?
18:53 HardPhuck i tried like everything
18:54 JohPie moment
19:01 adnc hello, does someone know if typo3 can do http authentication or one of the extensions. i would need this for frontend users
19:03 JohPie HardPhuck: can you sent me the original html-Code of the back-link?
19:06 HardPhuck <a href="index.php?id=49"><- Back to: Oglasna deska</a>
19:06 HardPhuck this?
19:06 JohPie yes
19:09 HardPhuck and the template looks like this: <!--###LINK_ITEM###-->###BACK_TO_LIST###<!--###LINK_ITEM###-->
19:09 JohPie i know.. . I'm searching
19:09 HardPhuck ok, thanx
19:18 JohPie if I read the code right, there is no way to put a class to the <a> :(
19:29 HardPhuck i guess i'll have to dig into the source code then
19:30 HardPhuck and edit the php file
19:31 HardPhuck oh well, wouldn't be the first time :)
19:32 JohPie bye
21:36 ndee hello there, I generate images with $this->cObj->IMAGE($img) but the problem is, I'm in a sub-directory so the path that gets generated is www.site.com/de/garagen/typo3temp instead of www.site.com/typo3temp, how can I prevent that?
21:56 Phlogi ndee: thats very strange... what do you mean with you are in a subdirectory?
22:03 ndee http://efv2.autoglobal.ch/de/garagen/marke/Chevrolet/
22:19 Phlogi ndee: ?
22:19 Phlogi cu
22:23 schwaiger hi there
22:23 schwaiger can someone help with mailform
22:23 schwaiger anybody knows a whay to use more than one form per page ??
22:46 conic hey guys...
22:46 conic can someone tell me how to insert a <hr> between two links in a menu?
22:48 conic i have a menu where the links are on top of each other
22:48 conic and somewhere in the menu i want to make a <hr> between tho of them
22:48 conic so create something like categories
22:50 Fab1an- conic: use allWrap for that

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