| 03:28 |
Phlogi |
anyone here? |
| 04:40 |
samek |
Phlogi: wahat's up |
| 10:14 |
turuburu |
hi |
| 11:21 |
turuburu |
timtab or tt_news is better for creating a blog? or something else? what do u propose? thanks |
| 11:25 |
oxygen-addict |
timtab uses tt_news |
| 11:31 |
turuburu |
aha, sorry i did not know. then i can install both .then i suppose timtab enhances tt_news |
| 11:31 |
turuburu |
thanks oxygen-addict |
| 11:32 |
oxygen-addict |
yes, timtab combins tt_news with ve_guestbook and adds default-templates (with RSS Feeds) and things like pingback, blockrole etc. |
| 12:02 |
turuburu |
thanks oxygen-addict |
| 12:02 |
turuburu |
anything else you propose to enrich a blog? |
| 12:04 |
oxygen-addict |
interesting content? ;) |
| 12:11 |
turuburu |
:) |
| 12:11 |
turuburu |
i have the latest typo3. in which case do i need realurl? what extras offer? |
| 12:12 |
turuburu |
i mean typo3 by itseld does not offer clear seo urls? |
| 12:15 |
s-andersen |
turuburu: You will need RealURL for nice URL's, TYPO3 has something built in, but I wouldn't recommend it |
| 12:16 |
turuburu |
thanks s-andersen. i had idea that latest typo3-v4 had included most functionality of realurl. but since u say so, i ll install it |
| 12:39 |
turuburu |
RealURL (BK) |
| 12:39 |
turuburu |
what this bk means? what the difference from simple realurl? |
| 12:42 |
turuburu |
how can i transfer a site and all the extensions installed from localhost to another host? should i just tar zxvf all typo3 directory and backup mysql database and then restore it remotely? in this case there will be some hardcoded directories that must be cleaned somewhere? is there any more sophisticated way to backup-restore sites and extensions and generally typo3 settings? |
| 12:52 |
s-andersen |
turuburu: Just setup the basic TYPO3 stuff on the server (t3lib, typo3, index file, and that other stuff), then copy the directories: typo3conf, typo3temp, fileadmin and uploads to the server. Import your database to mysql and correct the settings in the install tool, and you should be all done. |
| 12:53 |
s-andersen |
Use the RealURL extension, that has the key "realurl", there are lots of others you don't have to worry about. |
| 13:12 |
TaucherMK |
hi, i have a problem with th_mailformplus. The extensions just prints out the name of the template... I get no warning or notify in the admPanel. The path is correct and the file is read- and writeable. The Template must be correct, because i use it in another typo3 site and there it works |
| 13:13 |
TaucherMK |
i testet to load the improved_demo.html, but it results in the same behavior |
| 13:45 |
s-andersen |
TaucherMK: How do you set the template? |
| 13:46 |
TaucherMK |
i tested it with typoscript setting and in the backend form, it doesn't works either |
| 13:47 |
TaucherMK |
plugin.tx_thmailformplus_pi1.default.mail_htmltemplate.value = fileadmin/mailform.html |
| 13:48 |
TaucherMK |
this doesn't works and when i select the file or the improved_demo.html in the wizard, it doesn't works either |
| 13:51 |
s-andersen |
If you rid the TS, and choose a template in the flexform, clear the cache, what happens then? |
| 13:53 |
s-andersen |
If that doesn't give you any form, you could try to change the setting "useReference" in the ext. manager, of the plugin. |
| 13:57 |
TaucherMK |
lol, it works... |
| 13:58 |
TaucherMK |
i just commented out the template line in TS |
| 13:59 |
TaucherMK |
thanks s-andersen |
| 14:00 |
s-andersen |
TaucherMK: np ;) |
| 14:51 |
turuburu |
s-andersen: thanks |
| 14:52 |
s-andersen |
turuburu: np |
| 16:41 |
tuxick |
lo |
| 16:42 |
tuxick |
installing this database wossname extension blew up my install |
| 16:42 |
tuxick |
nothing shows anymore, log gives Call to a member function admin_get_charsets() on a non-object in /shared/sites/typo3/typo3_src-4.2.3/t3lib/class.t3lib_install.php |
| 16:44 |
tuxick |
yup, not even login dialog anymore |
| 16:44 |
tuxick |
$this->character_sets = $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->admin_get_charsets(); |
| 16:45 |
tuxick |
what is supposed to be in TYPO_DB? |
| 16:48 |
pmk65 |
Is there anyone here who is not English, German, Danish or Finish speaking? :) |
| 16:49 |
pmk65 |
As we need some additional translations for the TinyMCE RTE ext: -> http://forge.typo3.org/wiki/extension-tinymce_rte/Typo3fileadmin_language |
| 16:50 |
pmk65 |
it's only 2 language kays, so it should be an easy task :D |
| 16:50 |
pmk65 |
kays= keys |
| 16:51 |
tuxick |
i can give you dutch |
| 16:51 |
tuxick |
but i'm already about to give up |
| 16:52 |
tuxick |
this stuff is still as chaotic as 3 years ago |
| 16:52 |
tuxick |
even the docs haven't been updated |
| 16:52 |
pmk65 |
true |
| 16:53 |
tuxick |
i don't see how installing an extension can totally destroy the core |
| 16:55 |
tuxick |
ah it's been discussed on forum |
| 16:55 |
pmk65 |
tuxick: what ext is that? |
| 16:57 |
tuxick |
database something |
| 16:58 |
tuxick |
i can't tell now, since i just get a blank screen |
| 16:58 |
tuxick |
database abstraction something? |
| 16:58 |
tuxick |
http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=8936 |
| 16:59 |
pmk65 |
if you edit your typo3conf/localconf.php and remove all occurrences of that plugin, your system should be accessible again |
| 16:59 |
tuxick |
ah, i was assuming that was done in database |
| 17:00 |
tuxick |
but i'm trying this patch now, it looks credible |
| 17:00 |
pmk65 |
if it doesn't you can always try my suggestion :) |
| 17:00 |
tuxick |
yeah, thanks |
| 17:01 |
tuxick |
anyway, what about this translation? |
| 17:02 |
tuxick |
it's a fine example of "check instead of assuming a variable is set" |
| 17:03 |
pmk65 |
Just enter your translation on the Wiki here - > http://forge.typo3.org/wiki/extension-tinymce_rte/Typo3fileadmin_language |
| 17:03 |
pmk65 |
Same login/pass as on typo3.org |
| 17:03 |
tuxick |
*cough* |
| 17:03 |
tuxick |
wasn't that compromised? |
| 17:03 |
tuxick |
lessee if i still have my account at all |
| 17:04 |
pmk65 |
yes, and reset, so you should be getting a new pw which is encoded. |
| 17:05 |
tuxick |
Reason: "/community/your-account/loginlogout/" could not be found, closest page matching is / |
| 17:06 |
tuxick |
can't log in anyway |
| 17:09 |
tuxick |
is tv still the thing to use/look at? |
| 17:10 |
pmk65 |
In my opinion yes, bet there are some who still prever the old non-TV setup. |
| 17:10 |
tuxick |
haven't touched t3 for years |
| 17:10 |
tuxick |
i managed without back then |
| 17:10 |
tuxick |
but i'll give it a go |
| 17:10 |
tuxick |
anyway, i can't help you with translating, the login seems broken? |
| 17:11 |
pmk65 |
afk. need to go get some cigarettes.. |
| 17:11 |
tuxick |
aha, it's konqueror |
| 17:11 |
tuxick |
konq + t3 = no |
| 18:28 |
tuxick |
following FTP i keep getting this red warning symbol on root page icon |
| 18:29 |
tuxick |
how to find out what that is warning me about? |
| 18:36 |
temro |
hi |
| 18:36 |
temro |
is there a way to edit the html directly using the internal typo editor? |
| 18:44 |
s-andersen |
tuxick: Warning on root page icon??? |
| 18:44 |
s-andersen |
temro: You can edit HTML directly in the file module |
| 18:44 |
tuxick |
s-andersen: it was "hidden" |
| 18:45 |
tuxick |
but i suppose this warning icon can mean several things |
| 18:47 |
s-andersen |
tuxick: It should only mean hidden |
| 18:47 |
tuxick |
oh ok :) |
| 18:53 |
tuxick |
"The directory "fileadmin/templates/" (relative to the website root) does not exist! " |
| 18:53 |
tuxick |
so which is it? template or templates? |
| 18:53 |
tuxick |
FTB/examples are wrong or do i need to reconfig tv? |
| 18:55 |
s-andersen |
tuxick: TV has evolved since FTB was written. |
| 18:56 |
s-andersen |
tuxick: Maybe you should try this one: http://castor.t3o.punkt.de/files/podkast_julestue3-build-website.m4v |
| 18:57 |
tuxick |
ok so i go with TV, thanks |
| 18:58 |
s-andersen |
Which way to build your template depends a lot on the task, in my oppinion |
| 18:59 |
s-andersen |
For komplex websites, I usually use TV, for simple websites I use standard template engine |
| 19:00 |
tuxick |
well it is a complex site :) |
| 19:01 |
tuxick |
trying to set up a demo to convince colleagues |
| 19:01 |
tuxick |
one is a joomla clicker, so it might be a problem |
| 19:01 |
s-andersen |
Flexible content elements are great, that's the only thing I miss when using the standard engine. |
| 19:02 |
s-andersen |
I went from Joomla to TYPO3. I hated the way joomla worked, it really had a serious lack of flexibility. Almost every extension that could do something useful required a core hack. |
| 19:03 |
s-andersen |
And just a simple thing like different backend access was completely impossible with Joomla, but that's more than one year ago, hopefully they have evolved |
| 19:03 |
tuxick |
typo3 is very flexible but rather intimidating to new users |
| 19:04 |
tuxick |
i've had hysterical users failing to follow even basic instructions |
| 19:04 |
s-andersen |
tuxick: Depends a lot on how you setup the backend users and configure the RTE. In my opinion it doesn't have to be so bad, I have had lots of people start TYPO3 with no more than a text manual, who have made great progress in learning to use TYPO3 |
| 19:05 |
tuxick |
there's hope :) |
| 19:09 |
temro |
s-andersen: how do i get into this mode? |
| 19:09 |
s-andersen |
I can recommend making videoes of how you accomplish simple tasks. I made videoes for a community with about 20 editors, among them a man 70+ of age, who now uses TYPO3 with no problem. |
| 19:10 |
s-andersen |
temro: Have you found the file in the filelist? |
| 19:10 |
temro |
s-andersen: yes |
| 19:10 |
s-andersen |
Right-click the icon and choose edit |
| 19:10 |
temro |
s-andersen: but then i get into the html editor |
| 19:11 |
s-andersen |
And you didn't want that? |
| 19:11 |
temro |
s-andersen: i want an editor that doesnt convert enter into <br/> etc. i just want to put in my html without any side effects |
| 19:12 |
temro |
this is not possible? |
| 19:12 |
s-andersen |
I'm not following you. Do you want to an HTML file or do you want to insert HTML on your website without the editor? |
| 19:12 |
temro |
well i want to put in html without typo3 fucking up my formatting :) |
| 19:13 |
temro |
so the later |
| 19:13 |
s-andersen |
temro, then make a normal HTML element instead of a TEXT element |
| 19:14 |
temro |
s-andersen: how do you mean that? i didnt make any element as far as i know |
| 19:14 |
s-andersen |
I'm having a hard time understanding what you actually want to do, I'm sure it can be done, but since I don't know what it is, I can't really explain it |
| 19:15 |
temro |
ok thanks anyway |
| 19:15 |
s-andersen |
Can you explain your situation a bit more? |
| 19:17 |
temro |
s-andersen: im not really a typo3 user, i just need to add something to a website and have no real choice :) so i initially used this rich-text editor but had the problem that i couldnt really use something like <pre> with it. so i just noticed i can switch this thing off and use a plain editor which also enables me to input html. but the drawback of this editor is that it also converts enter into <br/> and some of the pre output still looks weir |
| 19:21 |
temro |
i want to prevent that the editor does weird stuff with my html, the one i input is not the one it outputs |
| 19:22 |
temro |
<span style="font-family:Courier,monospace">sometest</span> will become <span style="font-family:Courier,monospace"><p>sometext</p></span> for example |
| 19:23 |
temro |
s-andersen: can i achieve this somehow or not? |
| 19:25 |
temro |
this crazy editor just wraps every line in <p></p> |
| 19:29 |
tuxick |
wiki shows "Providing TYPO3 (Multiple TYPO3 or virtual host Installation on one Webserver; Installation, Security)" |
| 19:29 |
tuxick |
but that's no link |
| 19:30 |
tuxick |
can typo3 use vhosts/multiple sites in one tree at all? |
| 19:30 |
tuxick |
since i thought it could |
| 19:38 |
tuxick |
ah, too easy :) |
| 19:49 |
s-andersen |
temro: It does that on purpose, so that regular editors can't fuckup the layout |
| 19:49 |
s-andersen |
You need to create a new element, the same way you created a text-element, there is one fo the type HTML, and this one isn't parsed |
| 20:13 |
tuxick |
can't find it anyway |
| 20:18 |
tuxick |
ah |
| 20:42 |
tuxick |
wow, htmlarea keeps spitting out errors |
| 20:43 |
tuxick |
i guess until FF blows up |
| 20:43 |
tuxick |
[HTMLArea::initIframe]: Failed attempt at loading stylesheets: [Exception... "Access to restricted URI denied" code: "1012" etcetc |
| 20:43 |
tuxick |
can't find a clue in apache error log |
| 20:44 |
tuxick |
what's that restriction from/about? |
| 20:47 |
s-andersen |
Failed attempt loading stylesheets, tuxick is that a PHP error? |
| 20:47 |
tuxick |
no |
| 20:48 |
tuxick |
it's shown instead of htmlarea/rte |
| 20:48 |
tuxick |
nothing in apache log |
| 20:48 |
tuxick |
it keeps flooding that forever |
| 20:49 |
s-andersen |
Well is there any write access to the stylesheet? |
| 20:49 |
tuxick |
i have no idea, where would that be? |
| 20:50 |
tuxick |
it says "acces" instead of "read access" or "Write access" |
| 20:51 |
tuxick |
classical mistake |
| 20:51 |
tuxick |
typo3temp/rtehtmlarea is writable anyway |
| 20:51 |
tuxick |
and that's in the url |
| 20:51 |
s-andersen |
it should be inside typo3/sysext/rtehtmlarea |
| 20:51 |
tuxick |
and can not even guess what the error is supposed to mean |
| 20:52 |
s-andersen |
typo3/sysext/rtehtmlarea/res/contentcss/default.css |
| 20:53 |
tuxick |
ah i remember now |
| 20:53 |
tuxick |
the htmlarea exension installer failed |
| 20:54 |
s-andersen |
Well it's a sysext, you shouldn't install htmlarea tuxick |
| 20:55 |
tuxick |
uhm |
| 20:58 |
tuxick |
HTMLArea::init]: Editor url set to: /typo3/sysext/rtehtmlarea/htmlarea/ |
| 20:58 |
tuxick |
and then the flooding starts |
| 20:58 |
s-andersen |
Hmmm |
| 20:59 |
s-andersen |
Perhaps you should copy the rtehtmlarea folder over again |
| 21:01 |
tuxick |
this is getting annoying |
| 21:01 |
tuxick |
copy from where? |
| 21:02 |
tuxick |
what does this "make updates" button mean? |
| 21:02 |
tuxick |
it's not english :) |
| 21:03 |
tuxick |
it does show "A difference between the originally installed version and the current was detected!" |
| 21:03 |
s-andersen |
tuxick: You are in the install tool |
| 21:03 |
tuxick |
yes |
| 21:04 |
s-andersen |
Do you have FTP access? |
| 21:04 |
tuxick |
what kind? |
| 21:05 |
tuxick |
something wants to upload data? |
| 21:05 |
s-andersen |
Another question, did you upgrade TYPO3 from some older verison? |
| 21:08 |
tuxick |
no |
| 21:08 |
tuxick |
new install |
| 21:08 |
s-andersen |
Then there should be no reason for upgrading in the install tool |
| 21:09 |
s-andersen |
But somehow the fileupload must have been bad, maybe you should retry? |
| 21:09 |
tuxick |
i didn't upload a new one |
| 21:09 |
tuxick |
i just clicked 'install' |
| 21:09 |
tuxick |
and it told me it wanted to upgrade something |
| 21:10 |
s-andersen |
Hmm, I don't understand. Didn't you upload the source files to the server in order to install TYPO3 in the first place? |
| 21:11 |
tuxick |
well i installed a tarball |
| 21:11 |
s-andersen |
Maybe you should retry that tuxick? |
| 21:13 |
tuxick |
a full reinstall because extension manager goofed? |
| 21:13 |
tuxick |
"nstalling htmlArea RTE: DATABASE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED" |
| 21:13 |
tuxick |
Please select which operations to perform: |
| 21:14 |
s-andersen |
Or just do this: look in the folder /typo3/sysext/rtehtmlarea/res/contentcss/ is the folder empty? |
| 21:14 |
tuxick |
and then there's that "make update" button |
| 21:14 |
tuxick |
there's stuff there |
| 21:14 |
tuxick |
default.css |
| 21:14 |
s-andersen |
Well just click "make update" then |
| 21:15 |
tuxick |
yes, and then i get this long list of options |
| 21:15 |
tuxick |
and no "save" button |
| 21:15 |
tuxick |
or "ok" |
| 21:15 |
tuxick |
it does say "The extension is installed (loaded and running)!" |
| 21:16 |
tuxick |
so no idea what those config options dialogs are about |
| 21:16 |
tuxick |
this is also where it says "A difference between the originally installed version and the current was detected!" |
| 21:16 |
tuxick |
and a list of files |
| 21:16 |
s-andersen |
Yes, but that doesn't really matter |
| 21:17 |
s-andersen |
Can you give me access to the backend, it's hard to imagine what the problem is |
| 21:17 |
tuxick |
sorry no, this is a production server |
| 21:18 |
tuxick |
but isn't there supposed to be some "ok" button? |
| 21:19 |
tuxick |
afaic it's a bug anyway, it's looking in typo3temp/rtehtmlarea |
| 21:20 |
tuxick |
well i have stuff there |
| 21:21 |
tuxick |
aha! |
| 21:21 |
tuxick |
it wants htmlarea_d1dec8a236685ad8492c_compressed.js |
| 21:21 |
tuxick |
which isn't there |
| 21:21 |
tuxick |
oh it is |
| 21:21 |
tuxick |
just not fetching |
| 21:22 |
tuxick |
and apache allows fetching, wget was ok |
| 21:25 |
tuxick |
there's a guessthread about it in german |
| 21:29 |
tuxick |
i did the windows thing |
| 21:29 |
tuxick |
had to restart kde anyway |
| 21:29 |
tuxick |
so did that, with fresh FF, logged in again and it worked |
| 21:29 |
tuxick |
still no idea where the error was of course |
| 21:30 |
tuxick |
i did clear cache as told |
| 21:43 |
s-andersen |
tuxick: You have made typo3temp typo3conf fileadmin and uploads read AND writeable by TYPO3? |
| 21:49 |
tuxick |
yes |
| 21:49 |
tuxick |
installer insisted :) |
| 21:50 |
tuxick |
but it's ok now |
| 22:34 |
tuxick |
how does system 'guess' to map a content element to the template ? |
| 22:34 |
tuxick |
i don't recally setting this anywhere |
| 22:59 |
Trumpf |
hello |
| 23:00 |
Trumpf |
do any one have gallery2 on there websites? And how did they get installed and working? |
| 23:28 |
tuxick |
ah, it seems to have a problem with multiple content elements |
| 23:58 |
tuxick |
heh, the news extensions still beta? after all those years? |
| 23:58 |
jsfan |
good morning everyone :) |