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00:00 smeringe hum.. :S
00:00 Ruudi it allows me to translate dam records but not categories
00:00 smeringe hm.. to long ago for me to remember if we did any special changes to get it work
00:01 Ruudi maybe you added localization options to database or something
00:01 smeringe yea.. could be
00:01 smeringe sorry.. I can check with my collegue tomorow if you'd like?
00:01 Ruudi anh no problem not so important, but thanx for checking it out man
00:01 vanelst test
00:02 smeringe Ruudi: ok. np
00:32 vanelst is here someone who could answer some starting questions? I seem to get stuck installing the files :(
00:58 timdeluxe | Don't ask to ask, just ask! |
01:11 vanelst ok then :) ...I try to unzip the packages Source tar.gz and the source ZIP because i do not know how to unzip them on my ftp location.
01:11 vanelst But i can't do it: i get the message "no archives found" (i expected to unzip them and then transfer them with filezilla for example)
01:23 smeringe hum.. sounds like you should go for the zip archive and not the tar.gz to begin with...
01:23 smeringe like this one http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/typo3/typo3_src+dummy-4.1.5.zip?download to get an easy start
01:37 vanelst ok i am trying it now.
01:48 smeringe good night time to sleep
01:52 vanelst thanks!
02:15 gerards good morning everyone.
02:36 nature is it possible with Tscript to test if a directory exists within the fileadmin filesystem?
02:42 Denyerec Ooch
02:42 Denyerec Easiest way would be to pass the DIR in to a userfunc
02:42 Denyerec return the directory if it exists, the default dir if it does not.
02:46 nature sounds good
02:47 nature !
02:47 nature that's what i need/want
02:47 nature damn... i had a question for you and i forgot it
02:47 nature that bottle of vino really hit me hard last night. i feel so much better today now that i've downed two beers
03:54 baalwww hi, anyone home tonight?
04:03 baalwww i've been here 4 times and no one ever seems to be on
04:06 gerards yeah,
04:06 gerards could be because many of us are working.
04:06 gerards or sleeping.
04:06 baalwww good reasons both
04:06 gerards how can I help you baalwww ?
04:08 baalwww i'm trying to get my arms around typo3 for the first time. I need a tool for a site where writers contribute their work to be read ... does typo3 allow the back-end to be customized so that a contributor can have a page that's more like a social-network look than the back-end page in the examples?
04:10 baalwww i mean, gerards, i'm a php developer, and I realize any of it can be customized...what I'm trying to gauge is whether it is achievable through the core functionality rather than me trying to learn the api
04:11 gerards I understand.
04:12 gerards No the backend (henceforth the BE) looks the way it looks, and cannot be made more, well,
04:12 gerards eye-candy-ish.
04:12 gerards its made for content editors.
04:12 baalwww hahaha, yeah, that's a good way of putting it
04:12 gerards there are compromises,
04:12 baalwww ok..fair enough
04:12 gerards If you look at the task center, there are some modules that allow you to make addition of content more streamlined.
04:13 gerards but if you need a nice L&F, the back end is "As is".
04:13 gerards that's the first possible compromise.
04:13 baalwww yes. I guess my issue is unique. It's more that the page from which the writer will publish a piece is supposed to be a place where they hang out, chat with other writers, etc...not just get on to dump content then get off
04:14 gerards oh, so you want someone to be able to edit the content from the Front End (henceforth known as FE)
04:14 gerards ok there are extensions to send messages to other logged on users.
04:15 baalwww well, optimally that would be it, but I read enough to realize that the front end is not the place for serious content editing
04:15 gerards I'm not sure about IM-like messages, but there are extensions to send email-like messages.
04:15 gerards yeah, not real content.
04:15 gerards I think we need to differentiate between real content, which you as a site admin would want to control,
04:15 baalwww ok...i'll read some more...thanks very much for your time :)
04:15 gerards and user supplied content.
04:16 gerards if you need user supplied content, the best way (in ANY CMS) is to write your own customized module to handle it.
04:16 gerards if you think about it, you'll understand that that is true.
04:16 gerards yw.
04:17 baalwww yes...then it's a question of which engine to go through the learning curve to modify...typo3, joomla, etc.
04:18 gerards yes. that's your most important decision. based on your expertise, user and developer base, and requirements.
04:18 gerards oh, and typo3 typically uses up more resources than the typical Joomla. Gotta take that into account too.
04:18 baalwww <sigh> the requirements seem endless... i've been working on ajax-based widgets for their 'home pages'
04:19 baalwww yes, but it seems to make good use of those resources too
04:19 gerards I personally think so, but hey, I'm pretty biased eh? :D
04:20 baalwww haha, I would expect that
04:20 baalwww ok...I do appreciate you giving me some time...I'll go play with it some and read the api docs
04:20 gerards sure. use my nick again if you need my attention. :)
04:20 baalwww thx
07:23 koomi moin
07:26 gerards hi koomi
07:27 Chandru Hi, Is there any limit to size of an image file in Typo3?
07:29 gerards Hi Chandru. I don't think so. whats the issue that you have?
07:30 xsebi chandru : u mean visible size or kb ?
07:30 Chandru I have to display an image of more than 32K. When I try to use it, the image does not come on. If I reduce the size of the image, then I can see the image.
07:31 gerards Chandru: just for fun can you try to increase the size of the image a little?
07:31 gerards :) just for fun. :D
07:31 gerards try it.
07:32 Chandru Sure. Let me try :-)
07:36 Chandru Hi gerards, Are you looking at checking out what is the size that image fails to come up?
07:36 gerards nope. I have a question:
07:37 gerards when you say "If I reduce the size of the image, then I can see the image." what do you mean "reduce the size of the image"? Via the Backend? in the RTE?
07:39 Chandru No. I edited the image with PaintBrush, reduced the size. The original image dimension is 760 x 300, size of the file is 32K. If I reduced the size to 14K, 418 x 257, I am able to get the image
07:40 gerards alright. the reason I asked you to increase the size of the image, is because I can't imagine a 32kb limit on files. Its almost silly. there are css files that are more than 32 kb.
07:41 Chandru Ok. I understand.
07:41 gerards so your next step is to type in the exact url of the image to see if your server really cannot server files more than 32 kb.
07:42 gerards then the step after that is to find a txt file, or any file that is not an image that is more than 32 kb to see if that limit is only for images.
07:43 Chandru Actually the image is a prt of an html file where it comes properly without any problem. I am trying to convert that to a typo3 page.
07:43 Chandru Actually the image is a part of an html file where it comes properly without any problem. I am trying to convert that to a typo3 page.
07:45 gerards alright, try to type in the url of the image directly in the browser (typo3 can't control what apache serves). then its time to check file/directory permissions, and .htaccess files (there could be a redirect there)
07:45 gerards hth.
07:45 gerards it could also be a real url issue....
07:45 gerards but I'm not the guy to ask then.
07:47 Chandru Ok. Thanks gerards. I will try things out. I do not think it is permissions could be an issue as I am using a windows environment. I will check out .htaccess files.
08:41 gemayky Hello denyerec How u doin
08:42 gemayky Do u know anything about websiteportfolio extension
08:43 gemayky Men the stuff is given me bad headache
08:43 FloLeBlanc hi all
08:43 gemayky hi
08:43 gemayky Floleblanc good day
08:44 gemayky I dont know if I could get your assistant on this extension websiteportfolio
08:44 FloLeBlanc anyone who can aid me with overflows in tables with long urls and such?
08:45 FloLeBlanc hmm?
08:58 koomi FloLeBlanc: overflow:hidden :D
08:59 FloLeBlanc koomi: very funny :-P
08:59 koomi what's not working?
09:00 FloLeBlanc If a text occurs that takes more space than "available" for the forum, the design gets destroyed. Overflow: scroll provides me with scrollbars ALL the time, no matter if the box is too long or not (well in moz it works, not in IE), white-space can be used from CSS 3.X following (haha) and I of course don't want to "cut" too long urls with overflow hidden
09:06 koomi cut the link text of an url to 20|80 or something
09:08 FloLeBlanc koomi: yes but how would I filter that in mm-forum?
09:09 FloLeBlanc the only way I saw to do this was via php in the classes themselves but actually I don't want to "hack the classes" :)
09:25 uschi_ hi folks
09:25 uschi_ i need to find something out
09:25 uschi_ how do I apply a patch using the command line
09:26 uschi_ windows with gnutools
09:26 uschi_ patch (which options???) path to patch
09:59 koomi uschi_: Now, on to applying the patches. Normally all you need to do is simply issue the following command:
09:59 koomi patch -p0 < patch-file-name-here
09:59 koomi http://www.linuxhq.com/patch-howto.html
10:00 koomi patch from the parent directory
10:00 uschi_ the < is there only for decorative purposes
10:00 uschi_ ?
10:01 uschi_ koomi?
10:01 uschi_ -p0 means: strip no directories
10:01 koomi it outputs the patch-file-name-here to the patch executable
10:02 uschi_ what is the patch executable?
10:02 koomi echo < patch-file-name-here would output the filename to stdout (the commandline)
10:02 koomi patch
10:02 koomi patch --options < patch-file
10:02 uschi_ ah the program, fine
10:02 uschi_ hm
10:02 uschi_ ok, i give it a try
10:05 uschi_ shit, i do get an error
10:06 uschi_ an error with some hunk
10:07 uschi_ an error which i do not get when i apply the patch via eclipse
10:07 Valda hi
10:08 Valda I'm trigging changes on a typo3 plugin
10:08 uschi_ anyway, i have to stop those experiments now
10:08 uschi_ going to university
10:08 Valda thus, I'm curious to know how I can put debug output in a standard typo3 plugin
10:08 Valda any idea ?
10:32 dokma hi
10:32 dokma any of you guys used xml_ttnews_import ?
10:42 dokma void: you ever used xml_ttnews_import ?
10:42 void dokma: no
10:42 dokma well
10:42 dokma funny thing is
10:42 dokma I can't figure out how to use the ext
10:43 dokma once I install it I'm stuck
10:43 dokma manual doesn't help me at all
10:43 dokma silly
10:43 dokma I've even checked the code
10:49 xsebi anybody knows about the pjirc ext ?
10:49 xsebi should be an irc chat plugin but has no manual
10:58 dokma never tried it xsebi
11:32 dokma Phlogi_: need your help man
11:32 Phlogi_ dokma: hello :) Go ahead
11:32 dokma I can't figure out how to use this ext xml_ttnews_import
11:32 dokma I install it and then I'm just stuck!!!
11:32 dokma it's for importing rss feeds into tt_news
11:33 dokma can you give it a go?
11:38 Phlogi_ dokma: hmm I never used it, is there a manual?
11:38 dokma Phlogi_: there is a manual
11:39 dokma but it didn't help me at all
11:39 dokma I can't do even the most basic stuff
11:39 dokma either something is messed up in the ext
11:39 Phlogi_ hmm I recently saw another news import extension. What do you want to use it for dokma?
11:39 dokma or I'm just not seing something ubber simple
11:39 dokma just need to import an rss feed into tt_news
11:39 Phlogi_ maybe ttnews_feeder ?
11:39 dokma let me check it out
11:41 dokma Phlogi_: seems to me that this ttnews_feeder is for sites that do not have rss
11:42 Phlogi_ dokma: only?
11:42 dokma that's what the description says
11:42 dokma Flexible and powerful system to fetch news from search engines or parsing static/dynamic pages and fill ttnews table. A valid alternative to retrieve news from sites that have not RSS implemented.
11:42 Phlogi_ yes ok :)
11:43 dokma that's how it sounds from the description
11:43 dokma if it can handle rss too great
11:44 Phlogi_ I don't know
11:46 Hatschi_ hey
11:46 dokma Phlogi_: from what I see in the detailed desc it does not do rss
11:47 Hatschi_ has somebody experience with multilanguage ?
11:50 Phlogi_ dokma: true
11:52 smeringe Hatschi_: sry.. sure. what's your question? or was it just a poll? :)
12:08 Hatschi_ 14[12:04 23] Hatschi_: 01sry was at toilett
12:08 Hatschi_ 14[12:04 40] Hatschi_: 01well I was reading the bit old tutorial from kasper
12:08 Hatschi_ 14[12:04 45] Hatschi_: 01about localization
12:08 Hatschi_ 14[12:04 58] Hatschi_: 01and what I would like to do is to realize an language switcher
12:08 Hatschi_ 14[12:05 19] Hatschi_: 01the code snippets from kasper do work, but not in a correct way
12:08 Hatschi_ 14[12:05 51] Hatschi_: 01for example if I switch between languages the link adds the params like this: ndex.php?id=25&L=1&L=2
12:08 Hatschi_ 14[12:06 27] Hatschi_: 01and another thing is that it doesn't recognize the current selected language
12:08 Hatschi_ 14[12:07 17] Hatschi_: 01here's the complete ts I have so far http://phpfi.com/295968
12:09 Hatschi_ I really can't understand where the mistake hides
12:29 Valda hi
12:29 Valda I'm looking for a typscript pastebin
12:29 Valda any idea ?
12:30 Valda oh, shit. just checked the title
13:25 Briareos1 hey; my company is looking for a managed mailserver and typo3 hosting in switzerland. can anyone of you reccommend a hoster?
13:39 FloLeBlanc valda: :)
13:39 FloLeBlanc briareos1: I'm from austria and very confident with GCData
13:41 rocking hello room
13:41 FloLeBlanc hi rocking
13:41 rocking i was trying to go through the documentation and it is very confusing
13:41 rocking is ther eany place wehre i can know the architecture
13:42 rocking waht happens if i type a url
13:42 FloLeBlanc rocking: are you talking about typo3 or an extension?
13:44 rocking about typo3 itself
13:44 rocking we got a project to be started on typo3
13:44 rocking but then i am nonot able tto understand the basic achitecture of typoe
13:44 rocking where i can customize or write my own functions if required
13:44 FloLeBlanc did you check out the modern template building and futuristic template building manuals?
13:44 rocking where can i find that
13:44 rocking i did not ocme across that
13:45 FloLeBlanc rocking: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/doc_tut_templsel_de/
13:45 FloLeBlanc point 3: templating
13:46 FloLeBlanc this also gets you into typoscript and shows how you can implement own php functions via TS, if you need much code I'd recommend doing own extensions if you can't find one that matches your needs in the repository
13:46 FloLeBlanc hi kraftb
13:46 dot1 hello
13:46 FloLeBlanc hi dot1
13:47 dot1 hi FloLeBlanc
13:51 dot1 I'm looking a way to use tt_news with smarty template I don't found a parser, can you help me ?
13:51 rocking ah ok
13:51 Briareos1 floleblanc do they also host in CH
13:51 FloLeBlanc dot1: sorry never heard of smarty template
13:52 FloLeBlanc briareos1: sorry don't know, I'm pretty sure there is no physical server in CH
13:52 rocking is extension similar to modules of drupal?
13:52 Briareos1 floleblanc thx anyway
13:52 FloLeBlanc rocking: I don't know drupal :)
13:52 FloLeBlanc briareos1: you're welcome
13:53 rocking if i wan tto have a new functionality developed, then do i have to create my own extension?
13:54 FloLeBlanc depends on what you need. there are already many extensions and many things can be done by typoscript, I'll give you some examples
13:54 platin hi
13:55 FloLeBlanc can be done via TS: create an image on the fly with defined background and page name, create a shadow for content elements can not be done: access a custom php class - for that you always need a specific php file (see mtbI) or an own extension
13:55 platin i search an estate plugin wich can be filled with content via a programm for windows
13:56 FloLeBlanc platin: what is the reason not to use the browser for that case?
13:56 platin the reason is that the people wich is the page for have no surveys with typo3 or a cms
13:57 FloLeBlanc platin: I very much doubt that there is already a plugin for what you need. What you could try to do is get an estate plugin and access the table for this extension with your own written windows program
13:57 platin okay
13:57 platin i know the estate plugin
13:57 platin for typo3
13:58 FloLeBlanc platin: but imho it would be easier to do a frontend mod for the plugin if there is none available yet
13:58 platin but i thought there is maybe a program for the content
13:58 FloLeBlanc then again I also did a very easy plugin and made it available for a user that never used t3 before.. wasn't a problem
13:59 platin is your plugin available for free?
13:59 FloLeBlanc yes but it is not an estate plugin so you won't have any fun with it :)
14:00 FloLeBlanc furthermore it only interacts with our short message service tables
14:00 FloLeBlanc (custom extension only intended to use in our company)
14:00 kraftb hi flo !
14:01 FloLeBlanc kraftb: how are you
14:03 Denyerec Hey pmk
14:03 pmk65 hi Denyerec
14:04 FloLeBlanc hi denyerec
14:04 FloLeBlanc hi pmk65
14:06 Denyerec hey flo
14:06 Denyerec :D
14:16 Beuc Hi. I'm trying to install "extension repository kickstart" on a 4.1.5, but the "Make new extension" entry does not appear in the EM menu. Is there a compatibility problem, or did I just miss something? :)
14:25 Denyerec hsave you logged out and back in again?
14:25 Beuc Denyerec: I just tried, but it didn't help.
14:26 Denyerec and you've downloaded & installed it?
14:26 Denyerec EG it appears in the list of loaded extensions ?
14:26 Beuc Yes
14:26 Beuc "The extension is installed (loaded and running)!"
14:27 kraftb fine ... lot of work to do ...
14:27 FloLeBlanc beuc: extension manager - on the top left there is a dropdown - create new extension. that entry is missing?
14:28 FloLeBlanc (you have to use create new extension in the ext-overview, not in the kickstarter details)
14:28 Beuc FloLeBlanc: Yes, I only have 5 entries, not the "create new extension" one :/
14:28 FloLeBlanc hmm I used the extension kickstarter 0.3.8 from ingo renner and it works fine
14:29 FloLeBlanc your version is compatible with your T3 version?
14:29 Beuc hmmm, I have 0.1.1
14:30 Beuc OK, so the extension identifier changed from what's written in the documentation.
15:06 animan hi
15:07 animan anyone knows how to get as_printlink to work with realurl?
15:54 nomatter002 hi
15:54 nomatter002 how can i make a page only visible for a logged in admin user
15:54 nomatter002 so if admin is logged in into the backend and goes to the frontend, he sees this site and can go to it
15:55 nomatter002 if not this site is invisible and couldn't be accessed
15:56 alexwx helo friends, is there some typo3 func to date print? because i need to get the date month in language by choosen lang. ver. thank you
15:56 Randomresult someone knows how to build a language menu without the lang.inc.php?
15:57 Randomresult languagemenu.inc.php
15:58 Randomresult if no translation of the current page exists, i want the user to be redirected to the main page when he uses the lang-menu
15:58 Randomresult otherwise he gets the error message "there is no translation for the current page"
15:59 Randomresult i need to have the flag "hidepageifnotranslation exists by default" set to 1 ... otherwise i could use the extension ch_notranslation
16:00 Randomresult anyone an idea... i know i have seen a menu made by typoscript... but i do not remember where...
16:22 skipjack Hello
16:22 ries @all, How stable is workspaces nowdays??
16:22 ries I still see many many many extensions not compatible with workspaces and I read about to many problems... I also tend to think that the userbase for workspaces is faitly small
16:22 m0oman i've never used it.
16:23 skipjack can someone explain me why this doesn't work? : constants.basketinfotext = The basket is empty. (and in my Template file for tt_products I have set the Marker: ###BASKETINFOTEXT### ) but the marker will not set.
16:24 ries \msg Denyerec dude?
16:24 ries gosh
16:24 ries I always forget that slash type :D
17:25 j_s Can someone please explain to me, the "correct" way to use the API-documentation? How can I lookup which functions/features are available on fx the 'config.'-option for TS Setup?
17:26 just2b tsref > config
17:29 j_s ah. I was searching through the online API.
17:30 just2b it is online too
17:30 just2b tsref.de
17:33 wacky_ how do we add files/paths to the II-XML translatable files ?
17:33 wacky_ I remember being able to do that..
17:33 wacky_ but can't recall where
17:43 wacky_ ok, got it..
17:43 wacky_ have to modify /typo3conf/ext/llxmltranslate/mod1/class.sc.php
17:43 wacky_ it's hard-coded, so you have to tweak the code a little..
17:43 j_s just2b, how do I then lookup which parameters the config.htmlTag_setParams accepts? tsref lists only the xhtml example. How should I approach this, if I had not googled for the answers? Looking directly in the source?
18:37 dot1 hello
18:38 dot1 I'm looking a way to convert tt_news markarray in order to use with smarty templating system ? can you help me ? are there a plugin ?
18:38 dot1 who can do that
18:53 Phlogi dokma: sorry for not helping you :) Did you get it working?
20:16 uriahheep ello
20:30 skipjack Shalom ;)
20:39 just2b hi
20:41 smeringe ;)
20:41 void just2b: why?
20:41 just2b cause it is not here ;)
20:56 Denyerec make it work in opera! :)
20:56 Phlogi just2b: write one with album support please :)
20:56 Phlogi Denyerec: opera sucks ;)
20:58 smeringe sweet, flow3 really seems to be a good foundation for TYPO3 v5. got to play around a bit soon.. Time, where are you?!?!
21:00 Phlogi smeringe: # getTime -> Segmentation fault
21:02 smeringe yeah, seem the exception handling is kind of broken also ;) dead tired
21:21 Phlogi_ void: ping
21:22 void Phlogi_: ?
21:22 Phlogi_ void: are you using cal with fe_users as organizers?
21:23 Phlogi_ oh just saw that it works in BE without problems
21:23 Phlogi_ but not in fe editing...
21:26 dokma What's wrong here TRIVIA: http://phpfi.com/296107
21:26 dokma cal?
21:26 Phlogi_ dokma: yes dokma, cal!!!
21:26 Phlogi_ dokma: did you get your news thing to work?
21:26 dokma nope
21:26 bedlamhotel dokma: Learn it once forever: TEXT does NOT have .stdWrap on the value property! :)
21:27 dokma ahhh
21:27 dokma HTML ?
21:27 bedlamhotel So, either (1) remove ".value", or (2) replace TEXT with HTML. Either should work.
21:27 bedlamhotel Assuming your TS is otherwise correct in the first place that is :)
21:28 bedlamhotel You have now discovered Typoscript's *most* confusing problem, so all your other problems should be easy now...
21:28 smeringe hehe
21:29 smeringe *right*
21:29 bedlamhotel I *knew* someone would see through that...
21:29 smeringe sounded promising though
21:37 void just2b: why? becouse of difference to build cross-browser js?
21:37 void *difference = difficulty
21:38 bedlamhotel also, (difference == difficulty) in this case...
21:38 just2b void, no lightbox just not initializes correctly
21:39 just2b an ajax request later it works fine ^^
21:39 void why?
21:39 void just2b: use JS debugger =)
21:40 void do you?
21:40 just2b no not yet
22:17 smeringe ehm.. anyone know a function to set (by code) manual sort order of a record?
22:19 smeringe hum.. seems to be t3lib_TCEmain.resorting
22:19 smeringe he.. that was internal :)
22:24 just2b which sorting you mean?
22:30 smeringe just2b: "manual sorting of records".. rec 1 after rec 2.. ie the sorting column
22:30 just2b you want this for every table?
22:30 just2b or what?
22:31 smeringe hm. no. I'm developing an ext where I'd need to sort the fields in a tree and I'm trying to add a function for that..
22:32 just2b just say orderby sorting.. where is the prob?
22:32 just2b or you need the "moveUp()" ?
22:32 smeringe yeah
22:36 moodaepo anyone using fdfx_3cols?
22:38 smeringe time to sleep. cya around. good night
22:59 Phlogi_ hmm why can't I find the sourcecode of this function anywhere in cal? return $this->modelObj->findAllOrganizer($type, $pidList);
22:59 Phlogi_ there must be findAllOrganzier somewhere...
22:59 Phlogi_ this is from the api file, look here: http://pastebin.ca/901729, whats wrong?
23:00 Phlogi_ I mean where is the function declared?
23:03 Phlogi_ The only code of the function I find is: http://pastebin.ca/901736, but I'm sure there must be more. Can anyone help me out in this mess?
23:03 Phlogi_ a damn found it... I'm stupid and/or too drunk

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