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02:30 mcbass hello
02:31 mcbass can anyone tell me how I can link the class.t3lib_tceforms.php into my extension ?
02:33 mcbass ah forget this last one,... missed a character
02:48 revilo Hi
02:49 revilo I wonder if someone could help me (beginner) with typoscript
02:51 revilo Any hints where to ask?
03:07 Denyerec Depends on the problem :)
03:10 revilo Hello, I was trying some example from the documentation.
03:10 revilo But it doesn't work on my site...
03:10 revilo don't know it it's outdated.
03:11 revilo would you have a look on it?
03:14 revilo the url is http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_tsbyex/0.0.16/view/1/4/#id2841847
03:14 revilo It's the last snippet on the page
03:15 revilo tt_content = CASE
03:15 revilo ...
03:26 revilo Is pidInList still used?
03:32 Denyerec Lo
03:33 Denyerec Can you pastecode your whole TS?
03:33 Denyerec yes, pidInList is still used.
03:35 revilo you want me to paste my script?
03:35 Denyerec in pastecode
03:36 Denyerec http://phpfi.com/
03:36 Denyerec else you'll flood the channel :)
03:37 revilo http://phpfi.com/296692
03:41 Denyerec gotta say
03:41 Denyerec I;m not entuirely sure what thay's trying to achieve
03:41 Denyerec but then, its 3am here
03:41 Denyerec so that could be a factor
03:42 revilo ?
03:42 Denyerec Right
03:42 Denyerec if you have something called tt_content
03:42 Denyerec and you set it to be a CASE
03:43 Denyerec then you set tt_content.key.field = something
03:43 Denyerec then, based on the value of 'something'
03:43 Denyerec lets say 'something' can have the value of 1, 2, 3, and 'golf'
03:43 Denyerec you could set up:
03:43 Denyerec tt_content.1
03:43 Denyerec tt_content.2
03:43 Denyerec tt_content.3
03:43 Denyerec tt_content.golf
03:43 revilo ok
03:43 Denyerec and depending on what 'something' is, the respective element would render
03:44 Denyerec in your example, you set the key field to CType
03:44 Denyerec which presumably can have the value 'header' and 'text'
03:44 Denyerec (AS you have tt_content.header and tt_content.text defined)
03:44 revilo yes
03:44 Denyerec tt_content.default would be the default CASE
03:44 Denyerec and you don't have one of those.
03:45 Denyerec so, next question, which bit isn't working?
03:45 revilo I get the menu but no bodytext etc.
03:46 revilo But the page has bodytext and also a header
03:49 revilo If I add tt_content.default {
03:49 revilo 5 = TEXT
03:49 revilo 5.value = Hello
03:49 revilo }
03:49 revilo It should render, right?
03:49 revilo But it doesn'T
03:58 revilo Did I get your explenation?
04:15 Denyerec gah, he went away
10:05 uschi good morning, bedlamhotel :-))
10:08 bedlamhotel Hello. Sorry, I just opened my fridge and an egg fell out on the floor. Was cleaning it up.
10:10 uschi the poor egg, i hope you have a second one
10:10 bedlamhotel That was the problem. There are more than fit properly in the fridge :)
10:11 uschi so that problem solved itself ;-)
10:12 bedlamhotel Well except for the additional six that are stacked in there the sam way :-s
10:24 foool mornin' all
10:28 foool just2b i see yaml is using your rgtabs in therir new template system cool
10:28 foool As top horizontal menu
11:21 gmatyi Hi!
11:21 gmatyi I have still trouble with the rgsmoothgallery and tt_news. I create a pure typo3 install, and I install only the rgsmoothgallery and tt_news extension. I use the ts script from the manual but the smoothgallery doesn't work.
11:23 gmatyi other trouble is that the tt_news pages containing big images (4*500k) appaars very slow (10-15 sec)
11:23 gmatyi could anybody help me?
12:49 Phlogi__ what do you use for your locallang translations? Which extension is currently the best? Or how do you do it?
12:50 void Phlogi__: llxmltranslate
12:55 Phlogi__ void: ok thx :)
12:56 Phlogi__ And this will keep the modifications if I update the extension? I once saw a podkast about translation and they wanted to merge two extension into one perfect... did that happen already?
12:59 void dunno
13:25 mcbass hi
13:26 mcbass did anyone here ever used thestandard typo browser.php or browser_link.php in an extension development ??
14:34 Mirrakor Anyone has experience with TYPO3 on T-Com server? (those with the cutted Databases..)
14:35 Denyerec NOt I
14:36 Denyerec gmatyi - have you considered the fact the page is loading slowly is down to the fact you have 2mb of image data on it ?
14:38 timdeluxe Mirrakor: cutted databases?
14:39 koomi [x] want one too http://blogs.sun.com/plamere/entry/last_fm_get_a_new
14:39 Mirrakor timdeluxe: i.e. no script but their own crippled sqladministration script can drop databases for instance
14:42 timdeluxe woha
14:43 timdeluxe but dropping db's is not a so often done task
14:48 gmatyi Denyerec - Yes I considered. But This slow behaviour I experienced on my localhost running apache. And if you see the webpage rgsmoothgallery, this extension is not so slow, if I experienced with tt_news. Third thing: If I use a normal image set and I use rgsmoothgallery, I don't experience this slow loading.
15:04 Denyerec have you considered that it might be down to tt_news not properly creating a compressed cached version of the image?
15:42 gmatyi Denyerec - yes it might be. But unfortunately I don't know how I can solve this.
15:43 Denyerec well, if you visit the page and inspect the images, are they cached and compressed?
15:43 Denyerec or are the full size?
15:43 Denyerec also are they included via the RTE, or are they included in the TT_News "Images" field ?
15:44 gmatyi how can I inspect if it cahced and compressed?
15:44 Denyerec right click -> image properties
15:44 gmatyi it is included in tt_news images feld.
15:44 gmatyi not rte images
15:44 Denyerec if it's in the typo3temp folder and has a funky filename and small size, it's compressed :)
15:48 gmatyi ok I understand what you said.
15:48 gmatyi normal the images has small size and in the typo3temp folder.
15:49 gmatyi single view
15:49 gmatyi if i click on an image on the single view, the imagesize little bit bigger
15:49 gmatyi but the file in the typo3temp folder.
15:50 gmatyi now I set up the rgsmoothgallery
15:52 Denyerec and only the tt_news page takes ages to render?
15:53 Denyerec if the images aren't very large and the page is cached, I'm a bit stumped as to why it would repeatedly take 10-15 seconds to display
15:53 gmatyi I don't know what is happaned.
15:54 gmatyi now the speed was fast
15:55 gmatyi and it isnot in the typo3temp folder, it is generated by rgsmmothgallery
15:57 gmatyi but now I see this on my other web page.
15:57 gmatyi there I use the rgsmothgallery with a normal image set.
15:58 gmatyi i use here extern thumbnail.
15:59 gmatyi and i experienced here that one images comes form fileadmin other from type3temp
16:00 tux___ hello! im a little bit new to typoe. i want to integrate a simple guestbook extension into a page; i installed the extension and inserted the guestbook as plugin into the guestbook-page; i also created two records/posts of users, but if i view the page i only see the header of the configured guestbook page, did i forget something?
16:03 Denyerec Probably :)
16:03 Denyerec Did you include the static template?
16:03 Denyerec Web->Template "Edit entire template record", scroll down, include static templates
16:10 tux___ Denyerec: no i only created a guestbook-page, inserted a content with the guestbook plugin and created a guestbookrecord ... so i have to create a template on the page and include a static template?
16:21 Denyerec Well you should have a main template
16:21 Denyerec you can add the static templkate to that
16:27 tux___ Denyerec: http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=typoli1.jpg here is my tree, root has a main template, is it better to extend the root template or to create a new one? and if i create an extension there is an option with "include static" (like you said" there i can put the plugin.tt_guest and the option "include static (from extensions)" with Guestbook styles, should i use these?
16:28 tux___ i think i have to write a little skript to show the content of the guestbook records, is that right?
16:29 Denyerec Just add the static templates to your root one
16:29 Denyerec no point making an extension template really
16:29 Denyerec all your subpages will inherit the root
16:34 tux___ do you mean this way -> http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=typofd5.jpg ?
16:35 tux___ in the root template
16:36 Denyerec Aye
16:36 Azrael1983 hallo, is hier ein deutscher typo profi? ich habe ein graßes problem!
16:36 Denyerec Ich kann nichts deutsche sprechen :)
16:36 Denyerec Or... something.
16:37 Azrael1983 schade
16:37 Denyerec Indeed.
16:37 Denyerec This is the place for large problems with Typo3, though
16:37 Denyerec You're in the right place, just the wrong language :)
16:37 Azrael1983 jeah! well typo is ignoring my template
16:38 Azrael1983 i have an existing template but the content dont fill in the ###-sections just in the body
16:40 Azrael1983 altrough i dont know typo its made by an guy who left the company
16:41 gmatyi something happaned with my typo3 installation. This premature end of sctripts comes from the BE ext-manager.
16:42 Azrael1983 any sugestions?
16:45 gmatyi Azrael1983: have you read the modern template building manual?
17:01 Denyerec Is there a decent replacement for the default mailform for simple stuff ?
17:01 Denyerec Just something with decent validation.
17:01 Denyerec koomi, void, uschi ?
17:02 void Denyerec: what?
17:02 Denyerec Default mailform content elements
17:02 void try powermail
17:02 Denyerec do you know of a decent replacement for those that offer validation / error messages
17:02 Denyerec Shall do
17:02 void and say me results ;)
17:04 Denyerec Damn you!
17:04 Denyerec :D
17:05 void hehe
17:05 void Denyerec, i did not anothing related to typo3 for some month...
17:05 void so, i have no time to testing new extensions
17:09 Denyerec What have you been up to ?
17:12 gmatyi Denyerec: tmailform, mailformplus?
17:13 void Denyerec: programming on python
17:13 Denyerec Django?
17:14 Denyerec Plone?
17:14 Denyerec or lowlevel python stuff, not web based
17:16 void Denyerec: django
17:16 Denyerec I've never once looked at Python
17:17 Denyerec All I know about it is that there is some indenting involved :)#
17:19 void yes =)
17:45 Azrael1983 hey typo guys, I have a problem with my template.... everything works (navigation, date, commercials) exept the CONTENT can someone help me? i could offer free webhosting 10GB trafic and email on a fast server
17:46 engtia Hi guys! newbie here... need help on installation.
17:46 void Azrael1983: show your code
17:46 void engtia: ask
17:47 Azrael1983 its a bit more code
17:47 void Azrael1983: use phpfi.com
17:48 engtia I am using Apache, php5, mysql. I manage to install typo3 but somehow at the front end only the text is shown, no graphic or images at all.
17:48 Azrael1983 i can give you a login
17:50 engtia and then it seems when I try to type http://localhost/cfc/ only a list of directory is shown. Can help? Thanks.
17:52 void Azrael1983: pm me
17:52 void engtia: do you have an ip address? so i can see?
17:52 void http://88.88.88.88/cfc instead of localhost ?
17:53 engtia nope! it's on my notebook. Not in any server.
17:53 engtia has it got something to do with mod_rewrite? or path?
17:54 void engtia: not on installation phase
17:54 void engtia: i mean, do your notebook have an "white" ip address ?
17:55 engtia my dynamic ip is 218.111.153.174
17:57 void hm.. connection timed out. maybe, you have not configured firewall correctly or you are behind NAT..
17:57 void but anyway
17:57 void which list are shown on http://localhost/cfc/ ?
17:58 Mirrakor sorry - I know I asked this question before - but had an interruption - anyone has experience using TYPO3 with T-Com servers?
17:59 engtia well, it's actually Index of /cfc
18:00 void engtia: and which files are on cfc? where is typo3? =)
18:01 engtia I extract it into htdocs of apache
18:02 Mirrakor I'm new to typo3 but familiar with programming and databases, would you recommend me to use Typo3 now - or say I should wait till 3.5 is out (which I was told should be much easier)
18:02 void engtia: so.. you type url http://localhost/ and see what?
18:03 void Mirrakor: 3.5? you mean typo3 v5?
18:03 void (3 is not a version number - it is a part of name)
18:03 Mirrakor void: exactly, sorry
18:04 void Mirrakor: typo3 v5 will be out in a year. no one know, will it be easier or not...
18:04 engtia void: I see a page confirming Apache installation is successful.
18:04 void Mirrakor: so, answer depends on your goals
18:05 void engtia: hm.. i am confused
18:06 Mirrakor oh, I was told so - they said v4 has some legacy problems (caused by the extansion system, etc. ) ?
18:07 engtia void: meaning Apache is ok but typo3 has some problem.. suspect could be mod_rewrite but don't know much about it. I tried to set in httpd.conf but still don't get right...
18:07 Mirrakor btw. what's with the security?
18:07 void Mirrakor: yes. typo3 have a bit too complicated core, which is hard to modify. but i am not sure that you need to touch core..
18:08 void Mirrakor: security is a strong side of typo3: one critical vulnerability for 2 years
18:08 void engtia: heh.. maybe you should just delete index.html file on htdocs folder
18:09 Mirrakor well I've a site, which currently is plugged together with PHP, but I'd like it to be more flexible - an editorial function e.g., how difficult will it be to migrate the old site(using database connections) with TYPO3?
18:09 void Mirrakor: hand-made php?
18:11 void Mirrakor: depends on complexity of site
18:14 engtia void: I see this in apache error log :[Sun Feb 17 00:40:10 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/favicon.ico, referer: http://localhost/cfc/ .... why it says file does not exist?
18:14 void because it does not exist..
18:15 void don't worry
18:15 void that's normal for favicon.ico
18:17 Mirrakor void: hand-made, yes
18:17 Mirrakor it's moderatively complex I'd say
18:17 Mirrakor http://www.malteser-offenburg.de if you want to take a look ;)
18:18 engtia I also get this :
18:18 engtia [Sat Feb 16 23:12:10 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/about_us, referer: http://localhost/cfc/index.php
18:18 engtia [Sat Feb 16 23:12:21 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/home, referer: http://localhost/cfc/index.php
18:18 Mirrakor uh.. windows
18:19 Mirrakor engtia: maybe the files you search are in C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/cfc/home ?
18:19 void Mirrakor: i'd say typo3 fits for that site...
18:19 engtia actually shouldn't C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/about_us be like this C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/cfc/about_us
18:19 Mirrakor void: thanks, I'm always a bit worried before making a mistake - but I'll give it a try now :)
18:20 Mirrakor engtia: that's my point, can you check where the files are and what went wrong?
18:22 Mirrakor void: one last question(or rather two): Do you know what's the quality typo3s of mysql queries? and does/how often drop tables?
18:22 engtia well, due to typo3 is probably using real URL, it does not actually have a home.html file, it should be pointing to somewhere in the database...
18:23 void Mirrakor: why do you need to drop tables? maybe i don't understand
18:26 Mirrakor void: I don't know - maybe TYPO3 want's to do that for some reason - the thing is our provider(using it's microsucks system) has limited the sql usage - no external script is allowed to drop tables, which can lead to troubles if you don't recognize it
18:28 void Mirrakor: ok. typo3 don't want to drop tables unless you ask it for.
18:28 void and what about first questions? what do you mean as query quality?
18:34 Mirrakor like I said, T-Com is very restricted with mysql queries, i.e. you have a table: ID(auto-increment), Name(varchar),firstname(varchar) and try to do something like this: mysql_query("INSERT INTO Databasename, '','test','person'"); - while worked on the old unix servers from evanzo, it's causing troubles with the T-Com servers [it has a point.. an auto-increment statement doesen't need a value.., but like I said - the old server allowed it],
18:34 Mirrakor like some other things (fopen, etc.)
18:35 void i think, the best way is to test
18:42 pulponair hi there
18:48 engtia void: do you think I need to set 'typo3root' since I am extracting typo3 into a subdirectory?
19:26 Mirrakor void: you know if there's a howto or guidline for migrating an existing site into a typo3 framework?
19:27 void Mirrakor: dunno
19:59 xsebi engtia : if u install it in a subdirectory and want to use realurl u need to set the document root
20:30 mcbass hi all

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