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06:59 d|g hi all
07:36 foool Morning all - tried to get directmail going - no luck - anyone got any opinions on TC_directmail, is it good or?
08:25 koomi moin
09:31 harfang hi, I have a problem with my typo3 website, I have now the message "The current username, password or host was not accepted when the connection to the database was attempted to be established!"
09:32 harfang I then have rebooted my server, and everything worked fine again, but a few minutes later it is there again
09:37 tobstar what do you use to have custom realurls? I've found danp_realurlconfigurator in the docs, but it's still alpha, dunno if there's a better solution
09:45 foool Morning all - tried to get directmail going - no luck - anyone got any opinions on TC_directmail - I am trying that now but the recipent lists don't work. Any help out there?
09:47 harfang do you know what I do for my mysql issue ? My typo3 is down with the message "The current username, password or host was not accepted when the connection to the database was attempted to be established!", if I restart mysql it works again... but is down again a few minutes later. Thanks
09:50 foool This used to happen with my host, if it happens now I think the have a script that restarts the server.
09:51 maholtz @harfang: seems not to be an TYPO3 related error?
09:52 harfang maholtz, indeed, it seems to be a mysql issue, but a new one I hadnt before :)
09:54 maholtz harfang, me too - so maybe you should ask in an mysql chat, or have an close look at your server - have an look at the process list, mysql error log etc
09:55 Valda hey, how do I empty a typoscript variable ?
09:55 Valda I don't remember
09:57 tobstar x.y.z <
10:00 maholtz x.y.z >
10:00 tobstar doh
10:01 tobstar :-D
10:01 Valda < or > ?
10:01 Valda lol
10:01 tobstar well probably >
10:01 tobstar I have a tendency to be wrong
10:03 maholtz x.y.z < fills your element with an empty string
10:03 maholtz it should work as expected most the time
10:03 maholtz but > does an unset of your element
10:05 Valda is it possible to hide a page content from a typo3 plugin ?
10:07 maholtz valda, what do you want to do?
10:11 Valda I have a page element, that I would like to hide
10:11 Valda and I would like to do it from the plugin
10:11 Valda sorry I was at the toilets
10:12 Valda I have an HTML block that needs to be hidden
10:12 Valda and I would like to do so so from the plugin
10:23 dotx hello
10:34 teppi|work Valda, you have to set the hidden flag of the tt_content entry in the database to 1
10:39 animan does somebody know how to get as_printlink to work with RealURL?
10:50 Valda teppi_work thanks
10:50 Valda teppi|work sorry
10:50 Valda seems good, but now I need to do it from php
11:01 teppi|work Valda, http://phpfi.com/297141
11:20 t188 hi everyboby !
11:21 Valda yay teppi|work, but I need to make the configuration temporaly
11:23 Valda updating the database is not a solution
11:23 t188 can anyone could help me with a RTE/GD issue ? I've typo3 4.1.5, no imagemagick, every think is ok (image resizing) concerning tt_content, but images are not resized for a content in tt_news...
11:26 teppi|work Valda, you said nothing about hiding it temporarely ...
11:27 teppi|work beside this you can unhide it again ..
11:28 teppi|work another option is to give the content element a special class and hide it and unhide it via javascript and the css style option display:none
11:32 Valda mmmmmh
11:32 Valda good idea
11:40 tobstar Is there a way to create a rootline that does not exclude pages with "hidden from menu"
11:41 tobstar I've hidden my impressum page and referenced it directly, but when I click it, the rootline does not show the impressum itself, which I would like it to
11:47 pulponair hi there
11:48 dokma hi
11:52 Valda teppi|work, finally this is not an option, cause the content must be suppressed from the webpage
11:52 Valda even if it stays in the database
11:54 teppi|work hm i dont really know what you wanna do .. ;-)
12:00 gerards tobstar: not with HMENU.
12:01 gerards Valda, is it possible to use a parse function to take away unwanted content?
12:05 Valda mmmmh
12:05 Valda in fact, there is the plugin content
12:05 Valda and the page content
12:05 Valda in tt_content/NORMAL, I havez a TEXT and an HTML
12:05 Valda and I would like to remove them from the plugin
12:05 Valda temporarely
12:06 Valda I think it's possible but I have no idea
12:06 Valda using TSFE or something would be a good solution ? I don't know
12:07 tobstar gerards, thanks
12:09 dokma Valda: are you trying to hide a content element from a frontend plugin?
12:10 Valda true
12:11 Valda dokma, this is a good summary
12:11 dokma what should trigger the hidding?
12:11 dokma user action?
12:11 Valda no, selection a particular piVars parameter
12:12 Valda from get
12:12 Valda select/ing
12:13 dokma hmmm.... I don't know if toggling the visibility flag on a CE would be in time for such an operation
12:14 dokma if CE is loaded from the database before your plugin code gets executed
12:14 dokma you'll need another route
12:14 dokma perhaps you could append a small amount of CSS
12:15 dokma like: #myCe {visibility: blah;}
12:15 dokma and control it this way?
12:15 Valda yep, I thought I could do so, but my colleague isn't okay
12:24 Nublaii is there a way of forcing the category listing of tt_news categories to alphabetical?
12:24 Nublaii on the backend
12:25 Nublaii right now the default is the uid
12:35 animan can someone help me with printlink and realurl.. it seems that they dont want to work together
12:42 mhoramm Hi all. I'm experiencing a problem with templavoila. Basically it's adding an extra </div> at the end of my template. I've tried putting in an extra opening <div> tag but that didnt work. Does anyone know what might be causing this?
13:29 pulponair mhoramm: validate your template it's probably brocken
13:58 davmonster hi typo3ers
13:58 davmonster is there any log file or logging option for the typo3 CMS?
13:58 davmonster sorry, bit of a newbie question
14:00 pulponair davmonster: there is the TÝPO3 log module ...
14:00 pulponair davmonster: but i just logs "highlevel operations" like "changes to content elements" and stuff
14:00 pulponair s/but i/but it/
15:37 nd___ Anyone using template-selector with 4.2.beta1? I cannot select my templates, and don't find the error...
16:07 ct529 anyone who can point me to the difference between 4.0.8 and 4.1.5? I have to update a 4.0.4 website and do not know which one is better to use. Are there good reasons not to use 4.1.5 and use 4.0.8 instead?
16:12 nd___ Anyone else having problems with template-selector and 4.2beta1? Nothing listed under known Problems, still it doesn't seem to find the default-templates...
16:14 Valda how do I completely disable a menu entry, even if its associated page is available ?
16:18 isolysis ct529: it is always a good reason to upgrade to the latest version, because bugs have been fixed.. security issues patched up etc
16:18 Nublaii I have an old install of 3.8.1
16:18 Nublaii and I need to update my php to 5.2.5
16:19 Nublaii I was running 5.1.6 before
16:19 Nublaii I just changed it and now I can't perform any operation that performs a commit apparently
16:20 Nublaii if I his the 'Clear the FE cache' button the frame just turns white...
16:20 Nublaii and the same happens when I try to save any change
16:20 Nublaii any ideas?
16:20 Denyerec You checked the memory settings?
16:20 Denyerec if you just updated PHP its possible your PHP config has defaulted.
16:21 isolysis Nublaii: i have also experienced that 'frame turns white' issue.. it happened to me when we moved servers and we had a corrupted database due to non utf8 characters
16:21 Nublaii on the php config?
16:21 isolysis i would be interested in knowing how to fix the 'frame turns white' issue just as a precaution if it ever happened again
16:21 harfang hi, I have an issue with mysql and typo3, mysql keeps crashing. I believed it was a mysql issue and not typo3, but it seems the problem is typo3 does not close tables properly. I do a mysqlcheck and I always have unclosed typo3 tables.
16:22 Nublaii mmm... I'll see what I can find on the php ini side of things
16:23 isolysis harfang: are you running mysql in strict mode?
16:23 ct529 isolysis: why are the delivering 4.0.8 then? in which cases it is recommended not to use 4.1.5 but to use 4.0.8?
16:23 harfang isolysis, how do I check this?
16:24 isolysis harfang: i think you should be able to see if something is set in your 'my.ini' or 'my.cnf' file, something like sqlmode = 'some parameters here'
16:26 isolysis ct529: i am not sure why 4.0.8 is still being promoted.. perhaps the 4.0.8 version has had the security issues patched up if you install it now.. but i would guess that if you have 4.0.8 from before there may be some issues still
16:26 isolysis i gotta go.. be back later
16:27 harfang isolysis, I do not have this sqlmode parameter in my "my.cnf" file
16:33 harfang isolysis, do you think this can be because of a wrong innodb config? I mean, should I increase the default 16M pool size or 2M mem_pool size of innodb or anything else?
16:35 Nekdy this is all so confusing
16:37 Nekdy im trying to build up a simple page with my own template
16:37 Nekdy how do i link pages and navigation together
16:38 Nekdy if there is a content div in my template and i want content from pages inside that div
16:40 FloLeBlanc hi all
16:40 ct529 anyone who can point me to the difference between 4.0.8 and 4.1.5? I have to update a 4.0.4 website and do not know which one is better to use. Are there good reasons not to use 4.1.5 and use 4.0.8 instead?
16:40 FloLeBlanc did anyone update their FF recently and experienced problems with the RTE?
16:42 Nublaii how can I enable error reporting diretly on the localconf.php?
16:43 Nublaii my install tool is locked damn it
16:43 Nublaii or darn it ;)
16:43 ct529 Nublaii: what do you mean by locked
16:44 Nublaii it's disabled
16:44 Nublaii and the admin is gone for the day
16:45 Nublaii it-s a development machine and I need to turn that on
16:45 ct529 Nublaii: ah, disabled by the admin
16:45 Nublaii I can edit the localconf.php by hand
16:45 Nublaii but I can't figure out what needs to be added there
16:46 Nublaii if it is supposed to be turned on there...
16:46 Nublaii http://typo3.toaster-schwerin.de/typo3_english/2007_01/msg00085.html
16:46 Nublaii if you read that you'll see what I'm talking about
16:46 Nublaii same issue here
16:48 ct529 Nublaii: if your admin disabled it, then there is a reaso, and you should probably wait for your admin
17:24 ct529 I need to upgrade a 4.0.4 site. is it better to use 4.0.8 or 4.1.5? are there situations where I HAVE to use 4.0.8 and ot 4.1.5?
17:31 ct529 I need to upgrade a 4.0.4 site. is it better to use 4.0.8 or 4.1.5? are there situations where I HAVE to use 4.0.8 and ot 4.1.5?
17:42 void ct529: 4.1.5. i don't know why 4.0.x branch still exist
17:42 ct529 void: why do they keep updating .... are there problems with 4.0.x to 4.1.x update?
17:42 void ct529: 4.2 beta is out, so 4.0.x support will be dropped soon
17:43 void ct529: no, no problems at all
17:43 void maybe you need to create one table in install tool, and that's all
17:44 void hi just2b
17:44 ct529 hi just2b
17:44 ct529 void: I did not want to spoil anything by updating
17:45 void ct529: it's really hard to spoil anything...
17:46 dokma void
17:46 dokma how far is 4.2 from being stable?
17:46 just2b 1month
17:47 dokma so it's usable for non critical projects?
17:47 void dokma: as my experience says, beta is usually stable. and RC == release
17:47 ct529 just2b: could you recommend me some literature | documentatio to read to start developing new extensions?
17:47 ct529 void: thanks!
17:47 just2b ct529 http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//41613/
17:47 dokma http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Extension_Development
17:48 ct529 dokma: read that, did not fid it particularly useful
17:48 ct529 dokma: for example: what is mod1 (mod2) and when do I need to use them?
17:48 dokma usually backend modules
17:49 ct529 just2b: is it worth reading the core API document or has it change a lot lately?
17:49 dokma u need them when you want to communicate with backend users
17:49 ct529 just2b: Das von Ihnen gewünschte Thema kann nicht angezeigt werden. Möglicherweise haben Sie nicht die erforderlichen Rechte.
17:49 ct529 just2b: that is what I get when I try to read the post you pointed out
17:49 ct529 just2b: I do not know what it means btw
17:50 dokma ct529: look for babelfish
17:50 ct529 dokma: what do you mean?
17:50 dokma ct529: you ever used mailfom plus?
17:50 ct529 dokma: nope
17:50 dokma awstats ?
17:51 dokma ct529: u used awstats or phpmyadmin for TYPO3 ?
17:51 ct529 dokma: yes, stand alone
17:51 dokma oh
17:51 dokma well anyways
17:51 ct529 dokma: phpadmin,yes
17:51 dokma modules are things that appear in the backend section
17:51 dokma for example with mailformplus
17:51 dokma in the fe the visitor can see the mailform
17:51 dokma but in the backed
17:51 dokma the be user can see
17:51 dokma by using the module
17:52 dokma all the mails that have been sent
17:52 dokma from which forms and so on
17:52 ct529 yes
17:52 dokma this backend part is called a module
17:52 dokma it is located in a modN folder
17:52 dokma in the extension
17:52 ct529 ah
17:52 dokma you can examine th_mailformplus for an example
17:52 ct529 dokma: so I have a modX everytime I develop a backend plug in
17:53 dokma exactly
17:53 ct529 dokma: what is a very good (as in developed using very good standards) but simple extension I can use as reference?
17:53 dokma hehe, now you're asking for too much
17:53 dokma can't point you to any one specific
17:54 dokma the misfortune with TYPO3 is that you will have to learn
17:54 dokma by scraping bits
17:54 dokma from all over the place
17:54 ct529 dokma: yes, but there hs to be at least one extension which uses very good practice I imagine
17:54 ct529 dokma: to avoid developing some rubbish
17:54 dokma for sure there is
17:55 dokma it's just that my developing skills are not good enough to recognize one
17:55 dokma I can see some simple errors
17:55 dokma and a few good practices
17:55 void i'd say cc_devlog
17:55 void as an simple, but not very good example
17:55 ct529 void: :)
17:55 ct529 void: and simple and good?
17:57 void ct529: hm...
17:57 ct529 void: or very good .... :)
18:00 void ct529: ab_linklist
18:00 ct529 void: thanks
18:01 ct529 void: do you think it is worth readig the whole core api?
18:02 just2b ct529 read it when you need it
18:02 void agreed
18:02 ct529 just2b: void as a reference then?
18:03 ct529 so I use Extensions development as a main text and the core api as reference text?
18:03 void yes..
18:03 void i think "source is a doc"
18:03 just2b kind of... read a chapter you need... it is not useful to read everything just that you have read it
18:04 ct529 void: just2b: yes, agree on source, that is the reason to ask for a good extensio I can use as inspiration .... :)
18:07 ct529 void: j
18:08 ct529 void: just2b dokma thanks for all your help, see you later (some source | documentation reading to do)
18:08 dokma ct529: good luck
18:10 just2b there is no luck needed
18:23 elex hi
19:34 neabo_ hi there! does anyone know if there is any flash teaser menu extension (eg http://tennisvamos.com/, http://www.atptennis.com). Thanks for any answer!
19:38 just2b not flash but a cool image teaser, teasing tt_news or any table you like > check my ext rgslideshow
19:40 neabo_ just2b: thanks, will definetly check it out
21:36 drindt someone can please tell me how i can insert inside a extension a javascript in a special order into the head?
21:50 SemanticWebPro Hi dose anyone here have a extention for typo3 to build family tree
21:58 excalq hello typo3 dudes...
21:58 excalq hope everyone's having fun
22:16 drindt someone can please tell me how i can insert inside a extension a javascript in a special order into the head?
22:18 void drindt: what do you mean on "special order"?
22:19 drindt void: i want add some css files and javascript files to the <head></head> tags of my page
22:19 drindt and want doing this into my extension
22:20 void drindt: the std. way is to use $GLOBALS['TSFE']->additionalCSS and ->additionalJS (AFAIK)
22:22 drindt void: ah i will chech this out thanks
22:23 excalq doing it with TemplaVoila is pretty easy if you're using that
22:25 elex hi
22:29 drindt void: hm that not working
22:29 drindt excalq: yes and i can drive the roads with a prosche :)
22:29 drindt excalq: my project is so small that using of templa voila is more than overhead
22:30 excalq true, but I liked using TV (but that was for a big site)
22:30 void drindt: how did you try to use it?
22:30 drindt excalq: it exist another way to do so but i cant remeber
22:30 drindt void: $GLOBALS['TSFE']->additionalJS = '<script type="text/javascript" src="typo3conf/ext/tiny_gallery/res/js/prototype.js"></script>';
22:30 drindt thats in my mail method
22:31 void additionalJS is an array...
22:31 excalq yeah, I'm not sure how outside of TV
22:31 void try $GLOBALS['TSFE']->additionalJS['tx_yourext'] = '<script type="text/javascript" src="typo3conf/ext/tiny_gallery/res/js/prototype.js"></script>
22:32 drindt $GLOBALS['TSFE']->additionalJS[$this->extKey] = '<script type="text/javascript" src="typo3conf/ext/tiny_gallery/res/js/prototype.js"></script>';
22:33 drindt void: no chance
22:34 drindt void: or you mean this tx_tinygallery_pi1
22:34 void drindt: just unique identifier... one sec
22:37 drindt void: thanks for your support
22:43 void drindt: sorry, cannot find examples :(
22:43 drindt void: ok thanks

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