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00:20 Denyerec I would say
00:22 Denyerec "Spacer" can be used to help organise your pagetree as a convenient way to break it into sections, or, if your configure your template accordingly, can be used as a non-clickable placeholder in your site navigation
00:30 uriahheep yay
00:30 uriahheep now i just need to make the menu for the new site and the design's done :)
00:30 uriahheep well.. in TS, i mean :P
00:31 rfreg hi
00:31 rfreg what server is thi?
00:31 rfreg this*
00:32 void rfreg: freenode
00:32 rfreg oh
00:32 rfreg what is the command to join this server?
00:33 rfreg fuck
00:57 kreegee_ somebody here?
00:57 kreegee_ any idea why my pictures are kinda strange looking? (http://nouse.homeftp.org:8888/zs-online/)
00:57 kreegee_ somehow grainy
01:00 void kreegee_: because they are jpg?
01:00 kreegee_ the source material is also jpg
01:01 kreegee_ and they don't have these problems
01:01 void don't know...
01:14 xsebi im trying 2 different ext with mootools.js in me template but wont do ... till now
01:14 xsebi ung
01:21 kreegee_ argl, this image stuff is killing me
02:05 jsfan hello :)
02:05 jsfan anyone here?
02:11 Maxis yes
02:35 jsfan hmm, guess i was too slow ;)
09:18 typochur good morning
09:21 typochur mh, somone got a howto how to add own fields to sr_feuser_register?
09:22 typochur I just copied a field from above and changed the name of the fiel to my dbfield, but somehow it just shows the markers and does not replace it with a label and an input
09:40 GeorgesAbitbol I have change the domain of my website and the baseUrl. All pages (managed by realUrl) redirects to homepage. Do I have to clean the tables ?
10:30 mosez hi
10:31 mosez knows somebody what i have to do to make typo3 accepting german umlauts on title and content fields?
10:31 mosez i get allways 102: These fields are not properly updated in database: (bodytext) Probably value mismatch with fieldtype.
10:32 mosez and i dont want to replace each umlaut with the html entity
10:43 voidus_ mosez: the best way is to use utf-8 everywhere
10:54 mosez what was the default password for install tool?
10:54 mosez ah, i got it... joh316
10:58 nutcase hi@all
11:15 Recnelis Anyone here know anything about setting up the "config" part of pages? In Ts that is.. I get a weird "XML Parsing Error: XML declaration allowed only at the start of the document." when I try to validate my Typo3 Homepage at W3C
11:15 Recnelis It doesn't happen when I validate the static template...
11:16 harfang hi, I have a question about the way typo3 puts the articles online. Someone wrote an article, but the article is not displayed on the website (a tt_news one). I can put it online by refreshing typo3 cache, but is there another way to do this automatically? Thanks
11:18 Recnelis harfang: The page on which the articles are to appear.. have you set "No cache" ?
11:20 Recnelis At fucking last!
11:21 Recnelis the solution was to input: "xmlprologue = none" in the config part :)
11:25 christofer how do i make changes to "typo3 search" page?
11:26 Layna Good Morning :). I (still...-_-) have a serious problem with my RTE. I allowed the usage of images in the RTE, and the stupid thing puts a-tags around the images... with either lead to a part of the backend that is of coruse unreachable for visitors, or close the page entirely. Was anyone ever confronted with that?
11:26 christofer Layna check write possiblitys
11:32 harfang Recnelis, how can I see this?
11:37 harfang Recnelis, but putting a page as no cache, will there not be a problem with the indexed search then?
11:38 ct529 how do you activate the debuggig in the back end?
11:43 Recnelis harfang: Edit the page, u should be able to tick a No cache box
11:44 Recnelis Umm.. perhaps there will be some problems.. but better than not seeing new articles? Perhaps someone else has a better idea
11:45 ct529 harfang: problems with tt_news? what problem?
11:45 harfang problem is that I do not see new articles, I have to refresh FE cache :)
11:46 ct529 harfang: mmmm .... I am trying to remember.
11:46 ct529 harfang: is it the standard behaviour?
11:47 harfang ct529, what do you mean?
11:47 harfang ct529, if you ask if it does this with ALL articles, then yes
11:48 ct529 harfang: no, I meant if this is hwo it should behave
11:48 ct529 harfang: I am thinking
11:48 harfang ct529, I don't think it is, it is strange not beeing able to see new articles when they are posted
11:49 ct529 harfang: your are right, but I think I had a similar problem long time ago
11:49 ct529 harfang: but I do not remember well .... does the documentatio say anything about it
11:49 harfang ct529, as I'm the administrator, this is not a big issue for me, because I can emoty FE cache, but a normal user cannot, so this is a problem
11:50 ct529 harfang: yes, of course
11:51 ct529 harfang: did you search the manual? I do not remember how we solved it, but it was not a bug
11:52 harfang ct529, I will take a deeper look
11:54 ct529 harfang: sorry I cannot help you better, it was a long time ago
11:54 ct529 how do you activate the debugging in the back end? anyone who can help?
12:19 Recnelis Hey guys.. a question - I'm making a new extension with some courses ppl can attend. Each course has four different dates on which it is held - Would it be "okay" to make four different date elements to be filled out inside?
12:27 Recnelis Anyone?
12:48 m0oman hm. rggooglemap is confusing me. is there any form of manual available?
12:51 Recnelis m0oman: If ur lucky the author is in here
12:51 Recnelis He sometimes is
12:53 m0oman aye.
12:54 Ruudi hi
12:56 Ruudi does anyone know is it possible to show templavoila Data Element field through all pages? I want to create Editing Type "image field" and show logos in every pages footer...
12:57 |solshark| Ruudi: you should use mapping type "object path"
12:57 Recnelis Ruudi: If it has to be on all pages, why not map with object path and then typoscript the stuff u want into?
12:57 Recnelis Ah.. too slow :p
12:59 Ruudi then i have to tie it to a content element and build a typoscript for it, not so easy to use later and more work to build it
13:00 Ruudi showing content through pages is not so well solved in typo3 i think, there should be options for content elements to show on different pages
13:01 Ruudi and those pages should get content element link label automatically, and still remain possibility to change ordering etc...
13:01 Ruudi what do you think would it be really hard to implement feature like this?
13:16 mosez how do i write a string like <h2 style="background-image: url(fileadmin/templates/img/head/menu_blank.png);>Startseite</h2> und ts?
13:16 mosez i tried it with lib.mainMenu.logo = HTML
13:16 mosez and assigned it to lib.mainMenu.logo.value
13:17 mosez but on display it ends like <h2 style="background-image:" urlfileadmintemplatesimgheadmenu_blankpng="">Startseite</h2>
13:29 ct529_ is it possible to create a FE user when you create a BE user?
13:29 ct529_ (lost conection before)
13:31 ct529_ so, BE user -> FE user with the same login and password
13:37 Recnelis mosez: Why don't u just use wrap?
13:44 ct529_ is it possible to create a FE user when you create a BE user?
13:50 mosez i think i will try to use TEXT object mit stdWrap
13:53 xsebi hi all
13:56 mosez http://nopaste.info/e7bbebe2f9.html on default language it is <h2>Startseite</h2> and on english it is <h2>Startpage</h2>, right?
13:58 mosez i have set it on global setup. if i want to change it on a specific page i've got to add it to the TSConfig from this page?
14:00 mosez hum... setting it on TSConfig it only displays the global setting :(
14:12 ct529 is it possible to create a FE user when you create a BE user?
15:32 tuedel hey
15:33 tuedel does stylesheet = CASE work?
15:33 tuedel i wan't to choose different stylesheets for each page layout
15:55 uriahheep voidus_: you around?
15:55 voidus_ uriahheep: yes
15:55 uriahheep voidus_: do you know how to get the regular (not bold) font out of a .pfb/.pfm file when using with with GIFBUILDER?
15:56 voidus_ what is .pfb/.pfm ?
15:56 pfek Hi guys, does any of you know how I could get within a php script the current charset used by Typo3?
15:57 uriahheep voidus_: it's a postscript font, i believe
15:57 voidus_ pfek: $GLOBALS['TSFE']->renderCharset
15:57 maholtz @tuedel: is stylesheet is an cObject? or has it stdWrap propertie?
16:03 pfek voidus_ : Thx a lot!
16:03 tuedel umh dunno? :x
16:05 tuedel i tried stylesheet = CASE \n stylesheet { \n key.field = header_layout \n default = fileadmin/style.css \n 1 = fileadmin/style1.css \n } but that didn't work
16:11 maholtz have an look at tsref
16:12 tuedel at "case"?
16:12 maholtz no - at stylesheet
16:13 tuedel okay
16:18 tuedel does not really help :x
16:19 maholtz which type is stylesheet?
16:20 blubb why does my accordeon menu lagg so much? http://www.phlogi.net/home/
16:20 tuedel resource
16:23 blubb tuedel: what?
16:23 tuedel wasn't targeted at you
16:26 maholtz @tuedel: so you cannot use stdWrap or other typoscript features.
16:27 maholtz but you should be able to use headerData - there you can use CASE etc
16:27 tuedel umh.
16:37 tuedel does not work either :x
16:37 tuedel is header_lyout right?
16:37 tuedel *header_layout
16:38 maholtz do not know - is it an page-element - then it should be
16:39 tuedel umh now it works
16:39 tuedel typo ;)
16:49 tuedel hm...header_layout seems not to return the right values
16:50 ct529 hi verybody
16:51 ct529 is it possible to automatically create a FE user when you create a BE user?
16:52 ct529 is there a ts setting? or do you need an extension?
16:52 maholtz there should be an hook if you save an be-user
16:53 ct529 maholtz: ah .... so you need to latch into it?
16:53 ct529 maholtz: and write a class?
16:56 maholtz there is an extension news-alert - if an news-article is saved the extension sends an mail. maybe you should have an look at that
16:56 tuedel what's wrong with this: http://phpfi.com/297887
16:58 maholtz page.headerData ?
16:58 ct529 maholtz: why news-alert? Ineed it for something different ....
16:58 tuedel does not exist?
16:58 maholtz well - because i have not an better tip for you
16:59 ct529 maholtz: :D
17:00 maholtz tuedel: headerData is an PAGE property - you cannot use it "standalone"
17:00 tuedel this is inside my PAGE { }
17:00 tuedel err page { }
17:01 maholtz @tuedel: than that is right - in CASE you have an DEFAULT Type? maybe you can test it?
17:02 tuedel these are the first few lines http://phpfi.com/297888
17:02 tuedel with default it works
17:02 tuedel it seems like there is no value in header_layout
17:03 tuedel if i use "layout" it works as well
17:05 tuedel well i don't understand it but as long as it works ... ;)
17:06 maholtz tuedel: i think "layout" is on page - header_layout on content element? you can only use fields on page
17:06 tuedel okay
17:16 tuedel why does typo put "<p style="margin:0 0 0 0;">" all around? oO
17:16 uriahheep voidus_: is it possible to make the width of an image automatically scale to the width of a text element inside it? (with GIFBUILDER)
17:17 voidus_ uriahheep: i think yes, but dunno how
17:19 uriahheep hmm, k
17:23 uriahheep voidus_: i want to wrap a menu in a <div style="margin-left:{(index+1)*122}px;">|</div>
17:23 uriahheep voidus_: do you know how i could get that number?
17:24 uriahheep like...
17:24 uriahheep it's the submenu for a parent element
17:24 voidus_ what is index?
17:24 uriahheep the index of the parent element
17:24 uriahheep like, what its place is in the menu :P
17:26 voidus_ no. i don't know. maybe uschi knows.
17:27 uriahheep hmm, k :P
17:27 uriahheep voidus_: can i put a COA inside an HMENU?
17:28 voidus_ yes
17:28 voidus_ but not <i>directly</i> in HMENU
17:28 uriahheep ok
17:28 uriahheep so i can't do this?
17:29 uriahheep voidus_: http://pastebin.ca/912751
17:30 voidus_ uriahheep: no, you can't. 1,2, etc should always be GMENU or TMENU
17:30 uriahheep ok
17:30 uriahheep so how would i put a COA with the submenu in it?
17:30 uriahheep voidus_: i'm doing this because i need to clone the submenu :S
17:31 voidus_ you can make, for example, 2= TMENU, 2.allWrap.cObject = COA
17:32 tuedel how do i remove those <p style="margin:0 0 0 0;">s? :x
17:32 voidus_ or, if want to clone smth., you may write .2 < .1
17:32 uriahheep voidus_: ah, nice. that
17:32 voidus_ tuedel: setup rtehtmlarea
17:32 uriahheep that'll help*.
17:32 uriahheep thanks :)
17:33 uriahheep voidus_: and then i just don't put anything in the TMENU, right? ;)
17:36 tuedel voidus_ where do i do this? :x
17:37 voidus_ tuedel: at pageTSConfig or user TS Config
17:38 tuedel aaah thanks :)
17:43 uriahheep voidus_: how do i add a class to a menu item's link again? :-/
17:44 voidus_ uriahheep: with wrap
17:50 uriahheep voidus_: heh, with ATagParams ;)
17:56 tuedel what is the correct order for the stativ templates in direct mail?
17:56 tuedel i have fine boundaries in my plain text file, but not in my html
18:11 tuedel it worked till now ... :X
18:12 tuedel does anyone know how to fix this darn boundary-error?!
18:14 uriahheep voidus_: hmm, for some reason the CUR setting in my GMENU isn't working :(
18:14 uriahheep CUR {
18:14 uriahheep ATagParams = class="act"
18:14 uriahheep }
18:14 uriahheep why wouldn't this work? :-/
18:14 ct529 hi everybody
18:15 ct529 is there anyone who knows hw to create fe user correponding to be user automatically?
18:15 ct529 is it a ts settig or do I need an extension?
18:16 voidus_ uriahheep: try CUR.allWrap.ATagParams
18:16 voidus_ ct529: extension... simulatebe
18:17 ct529 voidus_: does it create fe user from be user?
18:17 uriahheep voidus_: well, the ATagParams for the NO works fine... just not this one
18:18 uriahheep voidus_: oh, never mind, i fixed it :)
18:18 voidus_ ct529: don't remember... AFAIK, it creates a BE user for FE
18:19 voidus_ uriahheep: how?
18:19 ct529 voidus_: will get a look thanks!
18:19 uriahheep voidus_: i needed to do CUR = 1 first :P
18:21 tuedel :X :X :X
18:24 tuedel is there any possibility to disable caching in typo?
18:25 just2b config.no_cache=1
18:26 tuedel into which page?
18:26 uriahheep does anyone know how i can get the index of a menu item?
18:27 uriahheep like, what its placement is in the menu... 1st item / 2nd item / 3rd item, etc.
18:27 just2b index is what?
18:27 uschi_ the number of the item, just2b
18:27 just2b i once postet something like that
18:27 uriahheep yeah
18:27 uriahheep do you remember how you did it? ;)
18:28 just2b not with posting 30 postings/day ;)
18:28 uriahheep ;)
18:28 uriahheep got logs?
18:28 uriahheep heheh
18:28 just2b http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//42777/?howto=1
18:30 ct529 I am trying to modify the phpbb3_auth so that when you create a be_user belonging to a certain group, it is automatically also created in the phpbb_users as a ew user belong to a certain group
18:30 ct529 is that possible?
18:31 just2b if it is on the same DB, sure
18:31 uriahheep just2b: is this it? count_MENUOBJ: {register:count_MENUOBJ}
18:31 ct529 just2b: yes, I have tthem installed i the same db, the phpbb tables have phpbb_ suffix
18:32 just2b yes this is possible
18:32 just2b uriahheep yes
18:32 uriahheep thanks :)
18:34 just2b uriahheep you know the drill...? ;)
18:35 tuedel is anyone familiar with this direct mail boundary-thing?
18:35 uschi_ one of the many secrets of TSFE
18:36 just2b tsfe & boundary?
18:38 ct529 just2b: would you develop an extension?
18:38 ct529 just2b: or would you do it by hands?
18:41 just2b what you mean by hands?
18:41 uriahheep hmm, how would i do a calculation with that number now?
18:41 ct529 just2b: hard coded
18:41 just2b uriahheep i dont really know, maybe you can do if with priocalc or how it is named, stdwrap feature
18:42 just2b hardcoded or ... ?
18:42 tuedel why can't i find direct mail via the extension manager?
18:42 just2b every ext is hardcoded
18:42 just2b tudedl, enable the 1st checkbox in the settings
18:42 uriahheep just2b: hmm, ok :P
18:43 tuedel aaaah thanks
18:43 ct529 just2b: hard coded in the core
18:43 just2b depends what i need
18:43 just2b avoid hardcoding
18:43 ct529 just2b: thanks
18:44 ct529 just2b: the be user are managed by a system extension?
18:45 just2b what you mean by "managed"
18:45 just2b ah now i get it.. still at the phpbb thing
18:45 just2b yeah sure, you cand change something there
18:45 just2b you just need a hook which checks if you wanna build a new user
18:46 Crocus_ anyone done a gifbuilder rollover function?
18:47 ct529 just2b: do you have any documentatio on hooks?
18:47 ct529 just2b: what is the command for the bot?
18:47 just2b crocus, use a gmenu ^^
18:47 just2b bot?
18:47 just2b ct529 there is a document at typo3.org
18:47 just2b and yeah i have done such things
18:48 ct529 just2b: yes, the room robot
18:48 uriahheep http://pastebin.ca/912837
18:48 just2b i dont know
18:48 uriahheep for some reason i get 0 every time :(
18:49 ct529 !hook
18:49 just2b IMO there are no commands
18:49 uriahheep just2b: can the number thing not be used in there?
18:49 just2b uriahheep is this a latest typo3 version?
18:49 just2b and i just would do it with an optionsplit, fastest, easiest
18:50 uriahheep just2b: 4.1.5
18:50 ct529 ? hook
18:50 just2b ct529 there is no command, stop it
18:50 uriahheep just2b: an option split?
18:50 just2b uriahheep yeah why not, or use the subtitle ;)
18:50 uriahheep hmm... what do you mean?
18:50 just2b you know optionsplit, right?
18:51 uriahheep not reall :P
18:51 ct529 just2b: ah sorry
18:52 uriahheep just2b: ohhh, that! haha
18:52 uriahheep ||
18:52 just2b yeah
18:52 uriahheep hmmm
18:52 uriahheep that's a good idea...
18:53 just2b ;)
18:53 just2b if it works you need to click 1 more time ^^
18:56 Denyerec Anyone done mailformplus & captcha ?
18:58 uriahheep 1.value = padding-left:0; || padding-left:122px; || padding-left:244px; || padding-left:366px; || text-align:right;padding-right:122px; || text-align:right;
18:59 just2b it works?
18:59 uriahheep ...for some reason the first one gets skipped... any ideas?
18:59 uriahheep just2b: yeah, it works :P
18:59 uriahheep i'll keep your site open, haha
18:59 just2b :D
18:59 uriahheep wait... what's the url again? :P
18:59 just2b http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgmediaimages.html
18:59 uriahheep thanks
19:00 just2b but dont click at the video top right, don't! ;)
19:00 just2b gave me already 6gb traffic this month :D
19:01 ct529 just2b: is that your extension?
19:01 uriahheep haha
19:01 just2b ct529 sure
19:01 just2b uriahheep 13mb and now i guss 450 times watched...
19:01 uriahheep :-o
19:01 just2b good that all other demos are demos of video hosters like youtube...
19:01 uriahheep just2b: hmm, any idea why the first option doesn't work?
19:02 ct529 just2b: is it in svn? I wanted an extension with good standard of code, to learn. Does it have goo standard?
19:02 uriahheep just2b: it just gets skipped
19:02 just2b ct529 i like the style
19:02 just2b and not svn, but ter
19:02 just2b uriahheep i take a look at my recend work
19:03 just2b no got no idea.. should work so.. but just add it twice ;)
19:03 ct529 just2b: do you develop directly in ter? I do not understand.
19:03 just2b no i develop local
19:04 just2b i dont need a svn
19:04 ct529 just2b: ah
19:05 uriahheep hmmm
19:06 just2b not good?
19:07 uriahheep just2b: ...by the way, for some reason the old realurls of my pages are still the ones being used, even though i moved the pages around and renamed them :S
19:07 just2b old realurl? didnt delete cache?
19:07 uriahheep i did :S
19:08 uriahheep realurl 1.2.1
19:09 just2b manuall added pathes in BE?
19:09 uriahheep don't think so
19:09 just2b check the paths in info module
19:10 uriahheep typo3conf/realurl_conf.php
19:10 uriahheep erm
19:10 uriahheep wait
19:11 uriahheep that's not what you told me to do :P
19:11 just2b not really
19:11 Denyerec SUpreme Commander was cool
19:11 uriahheep just2b: but there are no other paths in the info module :P
19:11 Denyerec not a good as the original though
19:11 tuedel how do i remove the addresses in the address book? :oo
19:11 Denyerec Total Annihilation was just awesomeness.
19:12 just2b tuedel what are you talking about
19:12 uriahheep just2b: what info module are you talking about?
19:12 tuedel tt_address
19:12 uriahheep oh
19:12 uriahheep never mind
19:12 just2b lol
19:13 just2b uriahheep the thing you never click ^^
19:13 uriahheep ok i've found it :P
19:14 just2b old path in itÄ?
19:14 uriahheep yeah
19:14 uriahheep how do i clear the paths?
19:15 uriahheep just2b: or, well, is there a way to make realurl update automagically? something in the config? i'm just using the autoconf right now, haha :P
19:16 just2b i dont use autoconf ;)
19:16 just2b but after deleting the fe cache the url should be the new one
19:16 uriahheep just2b: strange, then...
19:17 uriahheep cause it hasn't changed :S
19:17 just2b also with a no_cache=1 in the url?
19:19 uriahheep nope
19:19 uriahheep meh, i just changed them all manually anyway, haha:P
19:20 just2b lol
19:21 uriahheep just2b: ah, i know why it "skipped" it :P
19:21 uriahheep it didn't
19:22 uriahheep it just put the allWrap at the beginning... how can i put it at the end?
19:23 just2b beginning, end, dont know what you mean
19:23 uriahheep http://pastebin.ca/912884
19:24 uriahheep just2b: the allWrap goes at the beginning of the element that it's "wrapping"
19:25 just2b sry but why not adding the padding to the wrap or atagparsm in #9-10
19:27 uriahheep just2b: because it's a different element? ;)
19:28 just2b sry you see i didnt really got it ^^
19:28 uriahheep just2b: anyway, it's because i'm going to put some second menus in there, and they need to be placed at the end, etc... the reason why i need the COA is because i need to put some menus and other stuff in there
19:29 uriahheep (and the way i'm setting it up makes it impossible to use the usual HMENU method)
19:29 just2b take a look maybe a another wrap is better?
19:29 just2b but a allWrap should still do it
19:29 just2b make a test:
19:29 uriahheep http://pastebin.ca/912891
19:30 uriahheep this is going to be how the menu html looks like in the end ;)
19:30 uriahheep i know, it's weird / messed up, but... :P
19:30 just2b and 12hours after I set on my pc
19:30 uriahheep heheheh
19:30 uriahheep :P
19:30 uriahheep so, what's the test that you suggest?
19:31 just2b make a simple test with = <div>1</div>| || <div>2</div> | ||
19:31 just2b i think you are missing the single |
19:31 uriahheep ah
19:31 uriahheep yeah...
19:32 just2b i dont know how to handle that with a cObject afterwards
19:32 uriahheep yeah
19:32 uriahheep that's it
19:32 uriahheep the cObject is the problem :P lol
19:33 just2b could be yes
19:33 uriahheep maybe voidus_ knows
19:33 uriahheep haha
19:33 uriahheep voidus_: ping?
19:33 voidus_ uriahheep: m?
19:34 uriahheep void: how can i make my allWrap.cObject go on the end of something instead of the beginning?
19:34 uriahheep void: http://pastebin.ca/912884
19:34 uriahheep just2b: void's the one who suggested the allWrap anyway ;)
19:35 just2b yeah so he is the "bad" guy gg
19:35 void why am i bad? :S
19:36 just2b hehe just kidding ;)
19:36 void uriahheep: what do you need to move from where to where?
19:43 uriahheep void: the allWrap.cObject
19:43 uriahheep it wraps in front of the element instead of at the end of it
19:44 void uriahheep: hm.. try to use postCObject
19:44 void instead of cObject
19:44 uriahheep ahh, thanks ;)
19:47 uriahheep excellent...
19:47 uriahheep void: i needed to do that, as well as add this:
19:47 uriahheep allWrap = |<!---->
19:48 uriahheep ;)
19:51 ct529 just2b: are you there?
19:51 just2b kind of
19:52 ct529 could you please look at http://213.122.33.244/dummy/typo3/ ? what do you see?
19:53 ct529 I just finished istalling 4.1 .... and everything is fine in installer, but the be is completely empty ....
19:53 ct529 just2b: it is rather strange
19:55 ct529 just2b: everything seems fine ....
19:55 just2b i get timeout
19:55 just2b re
20:22 chefan hi
20:30 chefan i am looking for best practices to hook into typo3 classes used in the frontend. i already found the hooks available, what could help now would be a sequence how typo3 composes page content in the frontend
20:31 chefan if i got it right, inside typo3 core just talks about the process in the backend
20:31 just2b there is a document at sk-typo3.de with all hooks which can be called while page is generated
20:32 chefan great, thanks :)
20:33 uschi hey chefan, found an additional document about how the frontend engine works. by michael stucki. Great to have it at hand
20:34 uschi http://buzz.typo3.org/people/stucki/article/typo3-frontend-rendering-explained/
20:35 chefan great again :)
20:35 just2b the same document
20:35 uschi ooops
20:35 chefan lol
20:35 uschi sorry
20:35 chefan happens, never mind :)
20:36 chefan getting answers that fast in irc channels is a luxury in any case ;)
20:36 chefan i am used to a couple of "day changed" messages from other channels.
20:36 chefan IF there are answers ;)
20:37 uschi i would never have managed to learn what i know about typo3 (still not sufficient) without this channel
20:38 chefan well, typo3 is huge. so to learn it you have to cathc up, wich makes it even more difficult
20:38 just2b i dont like the irc that much ...
20:38 just2b information is lost for everybody else
20:38 chefan you can't compare that
20:38 chefan it's useful for different types of questions
20:39 chefan for instance, i knew sk-typo3.de before
20:39 just2b yeah but information is still lost ^^
20:39 uschi well, just2b, but it is a very nice virtual living room
20:39 just2b yeah if you would have asked at e.g. typo3.net, you woulld have gotten the answer 1min later but saved for ages ;)
20:39 uschi not really, because people learn, and most are also busy in the newsgroups
20:39 just2b uschi.. not really, no tv, no food, no images @ walls ;)
20:39 chefan but i didn't stumble over the right document, and the newsgroup search came up with a lot of "noise"
20:39 uschi and there they tell others what they learned
20:40 uschi oh, we have tv, just2b ;-)
20:40 uschi only in a different sense
20:40 uschi and for food and drink
20:40 chefan anyway, once i am done with what i am looking for i prolly have to write documentation anyway
20:41 chefan so nothing will be lost in the end ;)
20:42 chefan actually i tried to come up with the answer myself using xdebug
20:43 chefan but that pretty much killed my overaged x24 ;)
20:43 uriahheep just2b: hmm, you know, one thing that i really don't like about typo3 is the lack of indentation when it comes to certain things
20:43 uriahheep i mean, i really wouldn't mind putting tabs and newlines in my TS-generated HTML
20:44 uriahheep is there something that can auto-indent html?
20:44 chefan the html source produced?
20:45 just2b uriahheep lool... use a extension of firefox...
20:45 just2b no need for that... just uses space and time ot load
20:45 just2b ot=to
20:45 uriahheep just2b: which extension?
20:45 chefan web developer
20:46 chefan something you will always need are firebug, web developer and dom inspector
20:46 just2b and if you really need it in the source, use tidy
20:46 chefan at least once you tried them out
20:47 just2b view source chart, and many others
20:47 just2b and of course not extension but addon
20:52 chefan if you want to do it server sided, you might want to read the same doc that i have to study, from the link above
20:53 chefan if you are lucky you might find a hook after composition of html from TS and adapt some xml formatter
20:54 chefan by the way, i recently saw configuration options about xml formatting, could it be possible that they influence the way the html output is generated too?
21:00 uschi i do not think so
21:00 uriahheep hmm, i already use firebug and dom inspector... but what's web developer?
21:00 uschi the html parsing is done by a handmade htmlparser
21:00 just2b better thing to manipuilate css on the fly, checks for missing images, displays form elements
21:00 uschi quite handy uriahheep
21:01 uschi was around long before firebug came out
21:02 chefan just2b, uschi, that doc was about _exactly_ what i was looking for :) thanks again
21:02 just2b ;)
21:43 Cy hi
21:43 Cy test
21:45 Cy test. anybody reads?
23:31 uriahheep void: you around?
23:31 uriahheep void: http://pastebin.ca/913264
23:31 uriahheep void: i have one last thing to do on this menu
23:32 uriahheep i need the submenus (the HMENUs in the allWrap.cObject) to point to the parent menu item's page's subpages :P
23:32 uriahheep would you know how to do that with this setup?
23:32 uriahheep just2b: perhaps you would? ;P
23:32 void use leveluid:-1
23:33 void uriahheep: say the line number
23:33 uriahheep void: 29, 34
23:34 uriahheep void: then there's also 73, 137, 176
23:37 uriahheep void: is there something for menus in TSFE?
23:37 uriahheep like lastMenuItem or something? :P
23:50 uriahheep void: don't know? :(
23:50 void don't know
23:51 uriahheep hmm, ok :(
23:51 uriahheep :P
23:51 uriahheep that's a lot...
23:52 uriahheep lol :)
23:52 uriahheep take an aspirin?

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