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00:11 titii heyyyy help me please :)
00:12 titii hello ries
00:12 titii hey everybodfy
00:12 titii I have a problem with my extension :)
00:12 ries hey titii what's up???
00:12 ries I am rusty with my TYPO3 nowdays
00:13 titii it doesnt returning any output I dont know why
00:13 lobo do you have a template?
00:14 titii I have my own ext. as a Plugin element. also I have a echo in the stasting of main function of a class, no return, no echo
00:14 titii How you mean a template?
00:14 titii the extension using the template yes
00:14 chefan hmm, do the out of the box templates work?
00:15 titii chefan what?
00:15 chefan if you download some frontend plugin from the repository, and plug it into a page, do you get output?
00:15 titii but i have echo in the starting of a class as function main($content,$conf) { echo 'KUK';..... he has to output this echo, but no echo in the page
00:16 chefan there are about a million reasons possible for that you don't get content ;)
00:16 titii chefan yes the tt new has an output
00:16 chefan ah, well, the main function has to return html content in a frontend plugin
00:17 chefan wait a sec..
00:17 titii chefan yes he has... classic listing of a records... but i am echoes at the begining of the main function of a class... but no echoes
00:18 titii the echo should work, but it behave like no ext. is installed this is shit :(
00:20 chefan back
00:20 ries titii: did you add your static template?
00:20 titii yes i did
00:21 titii chefan so whats wrong
00:23 chefan oops, client issues
00:23 chefan i think the problem is much easier
00:24 chefan you followed the instructions in the extension manual?
00:24 chefan you have a class in the pi1 folder with a method "main"?
00:26 titii chefan yes in the pi1 with main
00:27 chefan ok, the problem is, you don't echo the content of a frontend extension
00:27 chefan you return it from the main method
00:28 chefan imagine you put all your content in the variable $content
00:28 chefan the last line of your main method should then be:
00:28 titii w8
00:28 titii I found somthing
00:28 chefan return $this->pi_wrapInBaseClass($content);
00:29 titii I was change, the USER into USER_INT in a ext_localconf.php be setting the 0 as the last param in a func t3lib_extMgm::addPItoST43
00:30 titii now I change also USER_INT in my static setup.txt
00:30 titii and it looks somthing he is doing, but i have an error on the FE now
00:30 chefan obviously
00:30 titii Fatal error: Call to undefined method t3lib_DB::SELECT_queryArray() in /var/www/www/www.hrajsa.sk-typo3/typo3conf
00:30 chefan wait a secons
00:31 titii but why now doesnt work the reference as $GLOBALS['TYPO3_DB']->SELECT_queryArray?
00:34 uriahheep ries: hey, you around?
00:34 ries uriahheep: buzy with report generation
00:34 uriahheep hmm, ok :P
00:35 uriahheep just wondering if you know of a way of accessing a parent in typoscript from its child
00:35 chefan you edited in the conf, right?
00:35 chefan parent::method()
00:35 uriahheep in TS? :-o
00:35 chefan in php. typo3 is in php
00:36 ries uriahheep: using <= or > and give it it's full 'path' may be?
00:36 chefan at least it's a way to do it :)
00:37 chefan titii: how did you create the "boilerplate" of your extension?
00:37 uriahheep hmmm
00:37 uriahheep ries: basically, check this out: http://pastebin.ca/913335
00:37 chefan copied it from another one, or used the extension wizard?
00:38 titii chefan what mean boilerplate? but i was started with kickstarter
00:38 uriahheep ries: i just need to be able to find out what page the menu item in the first NO at the top is for from inside the GMENUs in the postCObjects
00:38 titii chefan but then I was made my own hardcode changing
00:38 uriahheep chefan: ^^ feel like checking it out as well, please? ;)
00:38 chefan "boilerplate" usually refers to all the code necessary for a language or a framework, which has nothing to do with what you actually intend to do
00:39 ries uriahheep: I wouldn't know anymore out of the top of my head...sorry
00:39 chefan titii: if you start with typo3, forget about the hardcore changings ;)
00:39 uriahheep ries: hmm, ok :P thanks anyway
00:39 ries try to access the parent?
00:39 uriahheep ries: yeah..
00:39 uriahheep how do i do that, though? ;)
00:39 chefan the perfect way to get into it is: get some simple extension
00:39 titii chefan i am talking about extension programing... not a typo3 core :)
00:39 chefan read it, try to understand what it does
00:40 ries uriahheep: By trying to access to object again??
00:40 chefan yes i know
00:40 uriahheep with < or <=, as you suggested?
00:40 titii chefan ok, but i have some more experiences with this, but with this one... i see this for the first time
00:40 ries uriahheep: lib.men.no.object < lib.menu.no.otherobject
00:40 titii why the function exec_SELECT_queryArray doesnt exitsts?
00:40 ries Not sure if it will work...
00:40 uriahheep hmmm
00:40 ries titii: sure you got the right name?
00:41 chefan everything in typo3 is organized in classes
00:41 chefan if you can't access a method, chances are hight that typo3 did not include the class
00:41 chefan or the wrong one
00:41 chefan which can be achieved with faulty config files ;)
00:42 chefan my personal opinion about debugging hand edited config is: don't
00:42 titii chefan USER_INT uses another extends as USER?
00:42 uriahheep hmm, how would i make a menu for the subpages of a certain sysfolder?
00:43 chefan the difference between user and user_int is caching
00:43 titii class tx_myext_pi1 extends tslib_pibase {
00:43 titii and before require_once(PATH_tslib.'class.tslib_pibase.php');
00:43 chefan user_int is for things that should not be cached
00:43 chefan dynamic content
00:44 chefan ok, wait a sec..
00:45 titii chefan i have the ext. as tt%news there would be everyday new records so I set the INT to no cache
00:48 chefan you are probably looking for the function exec_SELECT_queryArray
00:48 chefan which can be found in class.t3lib_db
00:49 chefan which is included per default
00:49 chefan still, that doesn't change your problematic approach
00:50 chefan typo3 doesn't want things to be echoed (if you are not toying around with fancy output buffering magic)
00:50 chefan you return the content you want to be displayed from the main method of your frontend plugin
00:51 titii chefan ou sorry my fall about the function
00:51 chefan there is where you want to look, everything else, like toying around with the config will just confuse you more
00:52 titii chefan I know about returing the content variable, that was just for debuing
00:52 chefan echo is not a very good way to debug things in typo3
00:53 chefan the process of building the frontend content is complicated
00:53 titii chefan now everythings looks fine :))) thank you... so the problem was, the addPItoST43 was set as USER_INT and the static template was USER.. now it is ok
00:53 chefan consider installing xdebug
00:54 chefan or include some debug class that writes to a log file
00:54 uriahheep hrm...
00:54 titii chefan hmmm i check it!
00:54 uriahheep basically, this is what i want to do:
00:54 uriahheep special = directory
00:54 uriahheep special.value = [however i get the parent HMENU's position]
00:54 uriahheep oh, i have an idea...
00:54 chefan you are talking about typoscript, right?
00:55 uriahheep yep
00:55 chefan ok, in that case i prolly can't help you :D
00:56 chefan TS is not my business, i just deliver contents and play around with databases
00:57 chefan i casually pick up how it works time after time, but i wouldn't talk about knowledge yet ;)
00:57 uriahheep mmm
00:57 uriahheep i just got it working fine :D
00:57 uriahheep it's dirty, but...
00:57 uriahheep special = directory
00:57 uriahheep special.value = 26 || 27 || 28 || 29 || 30 || 31
00:57 uriahheep lol
00:58 chefan that looks pretty clean to me :DD
00:58 uriahheep lol, well...
00:59 uriahheep by doing this, now every time someone trys to modify the menu i'll have to change the submenus...
00:59 uriahheep in TS
00:59 uriahheep instead of it being automagical :P
00:59 chefan ah, ok
00:59 chefan hmm, i get a hunch what you are trying to do...
01:00 chefan but as i said, the TS stuff is not my business, i have a guy sitting next to me at work for that stuff
01:00 uriahheep heheheh
01:00 uriahheep are you at work atm?
01:00 chefan no
01:00 uriahheep aww :(
01:00 uriahheep lol
01:01 chefan it's 21:00 in here right now ;)
01:01 uriahheep ;)
01:01 uriahheep 19:01 here
01:01 uriahheep still at work
01:01 chefan even IF i would be at work, he wouldn't ;)
01:01 uriahheep heheheh
01:01 uriahheep catching up cause i missed 3 days of work last week :(
01:02 chefan catching up is bad medicine
01:02 chefan guarantees heart attacks ;)
01:03 uriahheep heh
01:03 uriahheep bah
01:03 uriahheep i'm still young
01:04 uriahheep and it isn't cause i was sick :P
01:06 chefan you are still young now ;)
01:06 uriahheep heheh
01:06 uriahheep yeah
01:07 uriahheep i'll calm down when i'm older
01:07 uriahheep right now i can live with this though
01:07 chefan i am 40, and people usually think i am in my late twenties
01:07 uriahheep ...and, well, it isn't like i'll have anything else to do at home tonight...
01:07 uriahheep haha, nice
01:07 uriahheep lucky you :P
01:07 chefan the key is, don't get stressed or overexcited
01:08 chefan always keep in mind, you are paid for your work, not for shortening your life
01:09 uriahheep heheh
01:09 uriahheep i PAY for shortening my life :P
01:09 uriahheep (cigarettes)
01:11 kreegee hm, is "end of february" still eta for 4.2 ?
01:12 chefan same here
01:12 chefan but the fags are cheaper in SA ;)
01:13 chefan well
01:13 chefan i hope not
01:13 chefan before 4.2 i'd rather see the doc-links fixed :)
01:14 kreegee ok ;)
01:14 kreegee just wondering because im launching a new page tomorrow
01:14 chefan (that was an alternative way to say: "no idea")
01:14 chefan just in case ;)
01:15 kreegee and we'll be in dev/beta-mode for at least 2 weeks
01:17 chefan another one of this beers and i'll be in /dev/null mode
01:17 chefan hmmm
01:18 chefan you don't really consider switching the release shortly before a production release?
01:19 kreegee it's not production-production
01:19 kreegee or not product-product
01:20 kreegee more like student-community-project
01:20 kreegee -beta-2.0
01:20 chefan i usually try to go for stable and storm-proof
01:21 chefan i recently wasted a lot of time because i didn't
01:21 kreegee in a voluntary project, that simply leads to development hell
01:21 chefan lol
01:21 chefan development hell...
01:21 kreegee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_hell
01:21 kreegee nobody likes doing the cleanups
01:22 chefan well, you are working with typo3
01:22 kreegee so?
01:23 chefan it's not what i would describe as "agile"
01:23 kreegee hehe
01:23 kreegee true
01:23 chefan terribly steep learning curve
01:23 chefan more boilerplate than average java
01:23 kreegee but i'm beyond the basics
01:23 kreegee ooh
01:24 kreegee thats a bold statement
01:24 chefan hmm, i didn't pick typo3 as the platform of choice ;)
01:24 chefan came along with the job
01:25 chefan well, i was beyond the basics before i started to learn typo3 ;)
01:25 chefan that led to my opinion
01:26 chefan i'd rather work in python, but hey, you can't always pick the raisins
01:26 kreegee i started with typo3 as it looked like a nice challenge after mastering the simple php stuff
01:27 kreegee no i rather use java, but that's not really an option for small web stuff
01:27 kreegee or smalish web stuff
01:27 chefan when i saw typo3 for the first time and thought about that it's done in php4, the first thing that came to my mind was:
01:27 chefan "don't let a boy do man's work"
01:27 kreegee lol
01:27 chefan i am referring to php4
01:27 kreegee ok
01:28 chefan php5 si better, but still sucks golfballs through a garden hose
01:28 kreegee there are some huge webapps in php
01:28 kreegee especially some of the "web2.0"-stuff
01:28 chefan still i agree with the guy that said:
01:28 chefan "Java is the cobol of the 21st century"
01:28 chefan and
01:28 chefan "PHP is the BASIC of the 21st century"
01:29 chefan sadly i guess he is right
01:29 kreegee probably true
01:29 chefan could be worse
01:29 chefan typo3 could be in visual basic and limited to IIE :D
01:29 kreegee still no silver bullet in the 21st century :(
01:29 kreegee hehe :D
01:29 chefan fun stuff
01:30 kreegee don't know if plone, lenya etc. are less a pain
01:30 chefan in my life i worked with a bunch of languages, down to fortran and lisp
01:30 kreegee even steeper learning curve i suspect (lenya, plone...)
01:30 chefan and once i applied for a job with decvelopment in visual basic (i was in dire need of money)
01:31 kreegee :)
01:31 chefan the guys rejected me due to lack of capacitation :O
01:31 chefan i didn't have any MC*
01:31 chefan that was when i stopped reading such crappy job offers
01:32 chefan plone is cool
01:32 chefan if you know python, i doubt that it has a steeper learning curve
01:32 kreegee ok
01:32 chefan besides, it does a hell of a lot of things out of the box for which you have to install extensions in typo3
01:33 chefan python takes getting used to, but is far more agile than any language i know of
01:33 kreegee the biggest problem in typo3 are unmaintained or otherwise poor exts
01:33 kreegee (imho)
01:33 chefan save prolog maybe, but prolog is overspecialized :D
01:34 chefan i think the biggest problem in typo3 are docs
01:34 chefan or as they say "open source software is worth about as much as its documentation"
01:36 chefan being considering that i found it easier to fix config issues using find and grep than in the backend, that gives an idea of what i mean
01:38 kreegee sounds familiar
01:53 chefan ok, i am out for today :)
01:53 chefan nice talking to you
01:57 JohnPower hi, i've got a problem using TV: when i specify a <beLayout>.nothing happens to the layout of the input fields in the backend :-(
02:00 void JohnPower: do you have recent version of TV?
02:00 JohnPower just upgraded to 1.3.3
02:05 void JohnPower: are you sure that you put tag in right place?
02:07 JohnPower hmm... i'm quite sure. just copied the source of http://www.typo3-media.com/blog/article/templavoila-advanced-use-of-belayout.html to the top of my own DS
02:08 JohnPower does TV check if there is every field present in the specified belayout?
02:12 void dunno..
02:24 JohnPower it seems to me, that this bugreporter: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=7499 has got the same problem. did he wrote the belayout to the right place?
04:53 markgenee ]
04:53 markgenee anyone there?
08:41 mosez mornin'
09:47 mosez fe localization with realurl and bb_languageselect is a little bit frustrating...
10:18 HardPhuck i get a blank screen in image processing
10:18 HardPhuck in install tool
10:18 HardPhuck anyone had that problem ?
10:18 HardPhuck i sense it's a GD issue but i am not sure
10:38 Recnelis Hey guys, can anyone help me with the Typoscript - A image which links to a page
10:47 maholtz .stdWrap.typolink.parameter = 22
10:59 Recnelis maholtz: I thank you :)
11:16 maholtz :)
11:20 sgraffin good morning all
11:22 sgraffin any active ?
11:25 solshark sgraffin: Morning. Maybe :)
11:27 sgraffin hello mate
11:27 sgraffin yes is morning here in italy :)
11:27 solshark sgraffin: In Ukraine is 12:30 already :)
11:28 sgraffin may ask you a question about typo3 ? im very fresh about this cms and i need a global info
11:28 sgraffin general info
11:28 solshark sgraffin: Don't ask to ask, just ask :)
11:28 sgraffin ops right
11:28 sgraffin :)
11:28 sgraffin well i dont understand how frontend communicate with back end
11:28 HardPhuck guys why wont typo3 generate me thumbs in BE??
11:29 HardPhuck i have image processing with thumbs on
11:29 solshark sgraffin: Wow. It's very general question :)
11:29 sgraffin i want to create my own fields on frontend and clicking submit store the data into db
11:29 solshark HardPhuck: Look into php error log
11:29 solshark sgraffin: It's simple task
11:30 solshark sgraffin: Look into DB Integration extesnsion
11:30 solshark sgraffin: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/wfqbe/1.1.0/view/
11:30 sgraffin usually in html form we have post or get method that point to a php file for elab the data
11:31 sgraffin ty for the link
11:33 sgraffin it seems the one i needed :D
11:34 solshark :) Perfect
11:37 sgraffin see you all soon :)
11:37 sgraffin need try now :D
11:37 a7p hi everyone - I'm just toying around with tempVoila and I wounder how I can integrate TS-functionality without having a dummy in my html-model.
11:41 xsebi hi peeple
11:41 xsebi people
14:34 bouter hi, I have a website in typo3/templavoila
14:34 bouter in order to make the menu apear I used the normal way of making a dynamic menu
14:34 bouter now, there is a section on my template that says themes
14:35 bouter on the right of my site
14:35 bouter my menu is on the left
14:35 bouter I want to show a menu there too
14:35 bouter so I created a page called themes and set it to not in the menu, i created some subpages
14:36 bouter en coded in typoscript that only the subpages must be visible in the right menu
14:36 bouter but the menu doens' t show
14:36 bouter only if the page themes (which is not in the menu) is active I see my menu
14:36 bouter I tried setting it so the subpages are allways shown
14:37 bouter lib.menu.1.expAll=1
14:37 bouter but that do the trick either
14:37 bouter so is there someone in here who can tell me how I have to make a second menu which has nothing to do with my main menu.
14:38 bouter *that didn' t do the trick
15:00 Ruudi hi
15:00 Ruudi i'm trying to make SSLVerified login to a page, and it works, but with all https pages, would it be possible to add it to certain pages only?
15:02 Ruudi it's an auth card based login system called: Autologin by X.509 Certificate
15:03 Nav hi guys
15:03 Nav Warning: mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in F:\Projects\Tom_Husler\t3lib\class.t3lib_db.php on line 796
15:03 Nav i m getting this error when i shifted to php 5.2.5
15:04 Nav any body got a solution for that?
15:04 Nav and also mysql 5
15:04 alexwx Hey ... How to edit locallang with HTML tags? Thank you
15:04 alexwx How to do that?
15:06 Nav hello??
15:07 Nav any body here?
15:08 isolysis Nav: are you using strict mode in mysql perhaps?
15:08 Nav actually i have installed wamp
15:09 Nav yah i think
15:09 Nav what it has to do with strict mode?
15:26 a7p is there a best practice for having a static column configured via tempVoila?
15:56 kreegee hm, my tt_news "eats" linebreaks and <p>'s
15:56 kreegee any idea how i could have fucked that up?
16:00 Recnelis Hey guys.. can anyone refer me to a site which tells how to make a new front end extension?
16:00 Recnelis I can't really get it to work when extending the tt_content and adding a new field which contains the fields which u should be able to choose with my extension
16:01 Recnelis I don't see a Code field, the selector drop down or anything
16:01 bouter typo3/templavoila installed I need to have 2 different menu' s (dynamic) 1 menu is no problem, but a second menu that has nothing to do with the first menu?.. how do I do that
16:02 bouter and it has to be shown on a different location then the main menu
16:02 a7p Recnelis, there are some examples at typo3.org.
16:03 a7p bouter, so what's the problem?
16:03 Recnelis a7p: Yes.. for Typo3 3.5 :s - I'm using 4.1.5.. haven't encountered this before... :S
16:03 bouter well it' s kinda hard to explain, but I'll give it a go
16:04 a7p bouter, I thought so ... *g* - it always is.
16:04 bouter the website I have has a menu with all the pages (normal :)) so I created some plain HMENU/TMENU typoscript to show the pages as a menu
16:04 Recnelis Usually I make a new extension and extend the tt_content with a selector box which contains all the options of my extension, like: "Show player", "Show club" and so on... - But this time it doesn't add the selector box in the plugin part.. :/
16:04 bouter this menu is on the leftside of my site
16:05 bouter now on the right side I have a spot reserverd for "themes"
16:06 bouter what I tried to do is create a page called 'themes' and set its pagetype to "not in the menu", created some subpages in that page
16:06 bouter and created some new typoscript for level2 pages
16:06 bouter entryLevel=1
16:07 bouter but the 'subpagesmenu' is only visible when the page "themes" is active
16:07 bouter but I want the subpagesmenu to be visible all the time
16:08 bouter a draftversion of my website (and maybe a tool to comprehend what I'm trying to say) is http://juflien.open2.homeunix.net
16:09 bouter if you go to http://juflien.open2.homeunix.net/index.php?id=15
16:09 bouter than you see what I want to see all the time
16:10 Wol i have a question for you : I want to have absolute source when an image is inserted with HTMLArea. Anyone know how to done this?
16:10 bouter but as soon as you navigate to a different page from the mainmenu (to the left) the 'themesmenu' disapears
16:12 bouter a7p: do you understand what I 'm trying to say?
16:14 a7p bouter, yes, I think I did.
16:14 animan hi.. i'm having this strange problem in http://www.poolsaar.ee/projekt/projekti-tutvustus.html -- when you try the printlink or tipafriend link from left menu they give me this wierd error
16:14 a7p I would guess entryLevel=1 should be entryLevel=0
16:15 a7p Recnelis, sry, can't help you there ..
16:15 bouter then it shows the entire menu
16:15 a7p yes - and now you've got to point it to that side in some way....
16:16 bouter but I'm not trying to show the menu on the right
16:16 a7p I know ... it's been some time since I did intense wrestling with menues ...
16:17 bouter what I'm trying to do is show a different menu on the right
16:18 bouter the way I did it might not be the correct way, but I thought it would work like that (not :))
16:18 bouter so is there some way of creating 2 menus in typo3
16:18 bouter *2 different menus
16:20 a7p bouter, okay, forget about entry-level
16:21 bouter ok
16:21 a7p why don't you try explicit menus like special=directory or special=list
16:22 Wol i have a question for you : I want to have absolute source when an image is inserted with HTMLArea. Anyone know how to done this?
16:23 bouter what do you mean
16:43 bouter anyway, thanks for looking a7p, but I have to go now
16:43 bouter thanks
16:56 mosez how did i get the pagetitle of the requested page on ts?
16:57 uriahheep hmm
16:57 uriahheep void: ping?
16:57 uriahheep void: how do i make an HMENU use the CUR element when its subpages are being viewed?
16:58 uriahheep ...or, well, does anyone know? ;)
17:02 mosez nobody knows?
17:08 a7p mosez, data= page:title
17:08 a7p iirc
17:11 dokma hi guys. I can't seem to find IP filtering in TYPO3
17:11 dokma where is it?
17:12 bedlamhotel dokma: conditions in TSref?
17:12 mosez a7p: thx, i will try
17:12 dokma hmmm
17:12 dokma sounds possible
17:12 dokma but what do you do in the condition?
17:12 bedlamhotel dokma: that's what the 'in TSref' was about :D
17:13 uriahheep hmmm
17:13 dokma well ... let me check
17:13 bedlamhotel http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/4/1/#id3755992
17:13 dokma [IP = *.*.*.123][IP = 192.168.1.34]
17:13 dokma ok that's pretty straighforward
17:14 dokma but what to put in the condition?
17:14 dokma go home and don't come back
17:14 dokma I'd like to respond with a 404 or something like that
17:15 bedlamhotel dokma: oh, if that's what you're doing, it'd probably be just as well to do it in .htaccess.
17:15 bedlamhotel Assuming it's some kind of *nix server.
17:15 dokma yeah
17:15 dokma I'm onto that
17:16 dokma order allow,deny
17:16 dokma deny from 123.45.6.7
17:16 dokma deny from 012.34.5.
17:16 dokma allow from all
17:16 dokma that might be a good example
17:16 bedlamhotel You *could* use the TS template by sending an additional php header...
17:16 dokma but that way it still hits php engine
17:16 dokma and hogs the cpu
17:17 bedlamhotel Yep :)
17:17 dokma I think .htaccess is a better fit here
17:17 bedlamhotel But that's true of *anything* that you do inside TYPO3...
17:18 bedlamhotel I think you should consider serving a page that says what you said above: "go home and don't come back" :)
17:19 bedlamhotel I was working on a client's site last week when I noticed some garbage form submissions coming through, so I banned the IP address in .htaccess. Half an hour later, I get an email from the CLIENT saying she can not access the site...
17:19 chefan everything hogs the cpu
17:20 chefan it's just a question who does it, apache with mod rewrite or mod proxy, php, a firewall or whatever
17:20 chefan and how much it hogs the cpu
17:21 chefan if you consider performance, you should think again if you want to use typo3
17:21 chefan in general
17:21 chefan using typo3 bears the philosophy: "if my site gets slow, i get my server more ram and maybe some more cores
17:22 chefan php in general is not quite the master of performance, when the applications start to grow
17:32 mosez hum... i dont understand typo3...
17:32 kreegee i don't understand IE
17:32 kreegee this css garbage is srsly killing me
17:34 mosez i have default language german, L 1 is english... i have nice urls with realurl and some other extensions. if i switch to english i get alwas the en/ at the beginnig of the url... but on german not
17:35 mosez bbl
17:35 bedlamhotel kreegee: you may already know this, but just in case...develop for a browser like Firefox, Safari, Konqueror or Opera and then tweak the CSS--probably using conditional comments--for IE. *NEVER* use IE as the main development browser as its rendering is too non-standard.
17:36 kreegee yeah
17:36 kreegee i would be happy if i could at least get it to display on ie correctly
17:36 kreegee and than do the conditionals
17:36 bedlamhotel kreegee: know about 'haslayout'?
17:38 kreegee haslayout?
17:40 bedlamhotel kreegee: the majority of rendering bugs in IE 6 (and presumably 7, though that's new enough that the bugs are not so well documented) are caused by a property internal to IE's rendering engine called 'haslayout'. Because of this, there are a few general kinds of fixes that will solve a wide variety of problems.
17:40 bedlamhotel Check out positioniseverything.com for a lot of useful IE render-bug fixes.
17:41 bedlamhotel And have a look here (sign-up is free): http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum83/6999.htm
17:43 chefan good resource for IE madness is selfhtml.org btw
17:44 chefan in the css docs you have a neat description for everything which browser supports it as well as comments on strange browser behaviour
17:48 Denyerec Must be a big website...
17:48 Denyerec kreegee - what's your problem
17:48 Denyerec CSS is perhaps the one thing I can half do right :)
17:49 uffi provided you know german, chefan
17:49 uffi i learned html with selfhtml, chefan
18:08 mosez re
18:08 tsrepadmin anybody using a ROOT Server at HETZNER?
18:10 mosez anybody knows how i get the language prefix for default language too?
18:33 uriahheep hmm, anyone around? :P
18:33 uffi around, but busy
18:34 uriahheep hmm, ok
18:34 uriahheep just a quickie: how can i check in TS whether the page being loaded is being visited from within the site?
18:34 uriahheep heheh
18:49 chefan tsrepadmin: if you can live with congestions around 4:00 am they have a decent cost/performance efficiency
18:49 chefan 4:00 am gmt+1 that is
18:50 tsrepadmin chefan i just ordered a root server there
18:50 tsrepadmin i found nobody telling me bad things about hetzner :-)
18:50 tsrepadmin therefore i guess it's a good provider
18:51 chefan hetzner is ok. surely not the provider with the best connectivity 24/7, but in relation to what you pay they are ok
18:52 chefan see above. if your clients are mainly from central europe, the annoyances around 4 o clock in the morning won't bother you
18:59 tsrepadmin chefan thats the point, you said it :-)
19:38 dokma guys. any of you ever did a tt_news search that allowed to specify specific data for particular tt_news fields?
19:39 dokma like having a form with separate input fields for author, dates, and body ??
19:42 dokma Denyerec, ries ?
19:43 dokma void
19:43 void dokma: m?
19:43 ries yes
19:43 ries @Denyerec
19:43 dokma u ever did anything with tt_news search?
19:44 dokma I need to create a tt_news search where fields can be searched separately
19:44 dokma like having a form with separate input fields for author, dates, body etc.
19:44 dokma any idea?
19:44 void dokma: maybe you should try extension "search in tables"
19:44 dokma just took a look
19:45 dokma seems it doesn't provide separate fields
19:46 ries dokma: No, I never used search with tt_news.... that said, not seriously
19:57 uriahheep hmmm
19:57 uriahheep void: if i have a <!--[if IE 6]> comment in my template file, how can i add it back with templavoila?
19:58 uriahheep oh... you don't use TV, right? :S
19:58 void i use TV
19:58 uriahheep ah, ok ;)
19:58 uriahheep do you know how to do that, though?
19:58 void but i never use "header parts"
19:58 uriahheep hmm, ok...
19:58 void i always build my <head> with TS
19:58 void and you can do it too
19:58 void i'd recommend
19:59 void page.headerData.10 = TEXT, page.headerData.10.value = <!-- [if IE 6]..
19:59 uriahheep hmm, ok
19:59 uriahheep void: that won't overwrite the TV header stuff, though, will it?
20:00 void uriahheep: no, it will not. but you can just un-check "header parts"
20:02 uriahheep ok, cool..
20:07 uriahheep thanks :P
20:55 uriahheep hey uschi
20:55 uschi hi uriahheep
20:55 uriahheep how's it going?
20:56 uschi currently nothing is really working
20:56 uriahheep :-o
20:56 uschi i lost track, to much lateral stuff
20:56 uriahheep in typo3, or in life?
20:56 uschi both
20:56 uriahheep hmmm :-/
20:56 uriahheep good thing the weekend is almost here :P
20:57 uschi does not really help, will have to work night and day to get things done
20:57 uriahheep how about you take a 15 minute break to relax and listen to the song "Short Term Memory Loss" by Wool a few times? ;)
20:57 uschi I had a really bad cold last week, and it is still not really gone
20:58 uriahheep hmmm :S i remember that happening to me in november
20:58 uschi no, i have to fix this stuff
21:17 Ammller help
21:20 uriahheep what's up
21:23 Ammller sorry, was wrong channel
21:23 Ammller (did misstype)

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