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01:59 kreegee somebody here?
01:59 kreegee http://www.zs-online.ch/ - why are the thumbnails so grainy? (source picture looks great)
02:19 chefan lets see..
02:21 chefan kreegee: are you using just the gd-lib, or image magic, and if image magic, which version?
02:35 chefan kreegee: file ending claims gif, but actually the format is a 64 colors gif LZW compressed
02:36 chefan looks like your image processing settings are fubar
02:36 chefan file ending claims jpg, sorry
02:36 chefan check the image processing options in the typo3 site configuration
02:37 kreegee hm, ok
02:37 chefan automatic jpg to gif conversion with downsizing and palette reduction is bound to produce shitty results ;)
02:38 kreegee i suspected that, so i stripped most gfx-settings from localconf.php
02:38 chefan image magic as well as gd-lib is capable of doing better, but you'll have to tell it how
02:39 chefan well, stripping won't do, to optimize automated processing, you will have to learn how gd-lib/image magic works
02:39 chefan do you have a lot of traffic?
02:39 kreegee not yet :D
02:39 chefan lol
02:39 chefan well, 64 color gif is cool if you want to have very small pics
02:40 chefan lzw compression is fine too
02:40 chefan they are really small like that
02:40 kreegee traffic shouldn't be too much of a problem
02:41 kreegee does lzw cause the gif conversion?
02:41 chefan but if you want to avoid annoyances with switching the format, you could try if you can set up the thumbs in jpeg, or with a larger palette
02:41 chefan no
02:41 chefan lzw is just the compression algorithm
02:41 chefan lzw is lossless
02:41 chefan so it has nothing to do with image quality
02:41 kreegee ok, thought that but wasn't sure if jpg has lzw
02:42 chefan the problem lies in the step from converting jpg to gif and reducing the palette
02:42 chefan jpg doesn't have any compression algorythm apart from jpg
02:42 chefan jpg IS a compression algorithm
02:43 chefan as i said, the lzw part just means work for the server and reduces file size
02:43 chefan you will have to decide where your weak spots are
02:44 kreegee traffic is no issue
02:44 chefan if you have a lot of space and bandwidth cost isn't a problem, forget about further compression
02:44 kreegee quality < server load < traffic
02:44 kreegee quality is most important
02:44 chefan as i said, lzw is lossless
02:44 chefan so it won't reduce the quality in any way
02:45 chefan like tiff for instance, that's another example of lossless compression
02:45 chefan or zip, or rar, or gzip, or bzip, or whatever ;)
02:45 kreegee im not stupid ;)
02:46 chefan jpg reduces the quality of a picture, but on the other hand produces better "eyecandy" in relation to filesize
02:46 kreegee i wonder what causes the conversion to gif
02:46 chefan the global conf
02:46 chefan sorry, i did not try to imply that in any way ;)
02:47 chefan if i explain something you know, just overlook it
02:47 kreegee didn't find anything in the all configuration in the install tool
02:47 chefan if you enter at /typo3/install/index.php
02:47 chefan there is an option for image processing settings
02:48 chefan wait a sec, i'll consult my local install
02:49 chefan http://yoursite.ch/typo3/install/index.php
02:49 kreegee i enabled gdlib2 now
02:49 chefan enter with the installation password
02:49 chefan point 4 is image processing settings
02:50 chefan wait a sec, brb
02:58 chefan try setting thumbnails_png to 3 and png_truecolor to 1 if you can't get better results
02:59 chefan this will do all conversions (including from jpg) to png and keep the resulting thumbnails in true color
02:59 chefan so no palette downgrading occurs
02:59 chefan on a fast connection that won't be a problem with image size
03:00 chefan you find the options in point 5 of the install page
03:01 kreegee hm, ok
03:01 chefan might be that using gdlib 2 can help already, if not, the solution above will prolly do
03:02 chefan another thing that you can do is to check which image magic version you are using
03:02 chefan 5 is problematic, but there is a replacement for that
03:03 kreegee ImageMagick path: /usr/bin/ (6.1.8)
03:03 kreegee ImageMagick path/LZW: /usr/bin/ (6.1.8)
03:03 kreegee Version 5/GraphicsMagick flag: im5
03:04 kreegee still looks fugly
03:05 kreegee hm
03:06 kreegee stupid me
03:06 chefan what was the problem?
03:07 chefan 22:46 < kreegee> im not stupid ;) / 23:07 < kreegee> stupid me <- gotcha! ;)
03:07 kreegee lol
03:07 kreegee no
03:07 kreegee though i had a ugly image
03:07 kreegee which was scaled
03:07 kreegee but i switched to a high res image, and the problem persists
03:08 chefan you are dealing with computers, you don't have to be stupid to get weird results ;)
03:08 chefan did you try the alternative with true color png thumbs?
03:10 kreegee on it
03:11 kreegee [gdlib_png] = 1 it is?
03:12 kreegee hm, fixed it i think
03:13 kreegee thx
03:13 kreegee next stop: realurl
03:13 chefan you can tweak gdlib_png and/or thumbnail_png
03:13 chefan i am not completely sure about the consequences
03:14 kreegee i switched them to 3/1
03:14 kreegee anyway
03:14 chefan wow
03:14 kreegee any idea what Reason: "zs-online/verlosungen/" could not be found, closest page matching is could cause?
03:14 chefan at least they are huge now :D
03:15 chefan 48k for a thumbnail isn't bad
03:15 kreegee darn
03:15 kreegee probably too much
03:15 chefan but they look great
03:15 kreegee but will do until i as the maillist
03:15 chefan you can check the graphicsmagic compile time options too
03:16 chefan there is a quality setting deciding between 8bit and 16bit
03:16 kreegee ok
03:16 chefan if the 8bit option is set (speed) you might switch to 16bit (quality) and see if it works for you
03:17 kreegee this isn't in the install tool, right?
03:17 chefan if everything else fails, hack the fucking core ;)
03:18 chefan like switching to a 256 color palette, or 16k colors
03:18 chefan true color is a bit gross
03:18 kreegee i don't think so
03:19 chefan for a thumbnail?
03:19 kreegee jpeg with 80% looks great and doesn't take no traffic
03:19 chefan ah, might be the png compression rate too
03:20 chefan but i didn't find any configuration option for that in the install script
03:21 kreegee where is the 8/16bit setting?
03:25 chefan which system are you using?
03:25 chefan it is a compile time option
03:26 chefan in freebsd for instance, you can set it with "make config" before compilation
03:37 kreegee oh
03:38 kreegee i'm don't have root access currently
03:38 kreegee hm
03:38 kreegee where can i change the format of the dates?
03:42 chefan should be somewhere in the internationalization settings
03:42 chefan default is the system default iirc
05:56 chefan n8
06:09 d|g hi all
09:22 animan hi. can soneone tell me what could be wrong when clicking on a printlink shows me error (http://www.poolsaar.ee/hiiumaa/militaaar.html -- printlink on the left menu)
09:22 animan ?
09:26 animan could it have something to do with realurl?
09:38 animan k, got it working -- it needed some cofing in localconf.php
09:40 animan but tipafriend still gives an error
09:40 animan :/
11:27 HardPhuck anyone gets image processing blank page in install tool??
11:36 No5251 hi. does somebody know what the getvar "1=1" in a mail from directmail-subscription is for?
12:02 HardPhuck what is the CoreFoundation?
13:03 HardPhuck anyone using photogallery on a website
13:07 akkolady HardPhuck: Which extension do you mean? There are several...
13:07 animan my 413 image processing on install tool loads fine
13:08 animan and i'm using ce_gallery for my photo galleries
13:09 HardPhuck akko: it doesnt matter im searching for the best one to suit my needs and am currently comparing them
13:10 animan together with slimbox it looks quite okay
13:12 akkolady HardPhuck: I got 2 running: lz_gallery and goof_fotoboek
13:13 akkolady I use lz_gallery for some time now, but I'm not really satisfied with it. Needs some actions to create multi-level galleries
13:13 akkolady Testing goof_fotoboek now
13:14 akkolady for one-lever presentations it's really comfortable, but I'm still testing multi-lever galleries yet
13:18 HardPhuck any live examples?
13:21 akkolady HardPhuck: http://www.hs-niederrhein.de/16883.html for goof_fotoboek
13:22 akkolady Didn't change the configuration, as it had to be done within a few minutes :-)
13:22 akkolady lz_gallery unfortunataly is within the private area of the site of my orchestra. sorry.
13:23 HardPhuck trying the jm_gallery now
13:23 HardPhuck no problem
14:14 HardPhuck crap this lz_gallery won't work for me
15:03 uschi heeeeelp
15:03 uschi can anyone tell me how i could possibly restart apache under solaris?
15:11 ries uschi: does it have apachectl ?
15:11 uschi yes, ries
15:12 ries you should beable to use that to restart it
15:12 uschi i now said apachectl -k graceful
15:12 uschi somehow we crashed the server by changing a pagetype ...
15:13 uschi no way but restarting the server, strange, i must say
15:13 ries stop or start it?
15:16 j0hnd33re Good morning, earthlings.
15:18 ries goodmorning j0hnd33re
15:41 j0hnd33re I can't remember my nick password.
15:54 Layna Hello. Topo3 insists in pushing IE into quirks-Mode by startugn the page with <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>. How can I stop that?
15:56 j0hnd33re I don't know the answer to your question though, I'm afraid :(
15:57 Layna LOL, I fully agree with the IE-statment... one wonders what the CSS-compliance would be like WITHOUT Firefox and Opera forcing Microsoft to move ;)
15:59 j0hnd33re www.crashie.com <-- my favorite site
15:59 j0hnd33re (don't go there if you're using IE)
16:00 maholtz layna: afaik there is a possibility to change that at the page-object wiki.typo3.org/TSref/PAGE
16:03 Layna thanks, manbd crashie even messe sup IE7... I wonde rif IE8 will cooperate there.. ;)
16:04 Layna thanks, manholtz, and crashie even messe sup IE7... I wonde rif IE8 will cooperate there.. ;)
16:06 maholtz i think i was wrong: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/7/3/
16:06 maholtz "xmlprolouge" looks better?
16:08 Layna doctype-switch did the trick, too :). But as I am here, is there anyway I can convince Typo3 to encode special chars in the navigation? I habe & in the names of the links, and of course that wonÄt validate
16:10 Layna And prologue looks better after all.. doctype.switchs tops validation, too
16:24 Layna Oook, validates now :). Thanks everybody :).
16:26 nutcase hello
16:27 nutcase sr_feuser_registration: is there a possibility to let users who invited other users list, edit and delete these invited users?
16:27 nutcase background: only some users, accepted by administrator should be able to invite, edit, delete new users
16:51 whnsnn hi, is there any way to disable the "save and close" button. maybe similar to "options.saveDocNew.[table]"
16:59 Nublaii I'm using m1_google_analytics to insert the tracking code
17:00 Nublaii and I'm having some problems with external urls and IE7
17:00 Nublaii the code inserts 'javascript:urchinTracker (...'
17:00 Nublaii that extra espace shouldn't be a problem right?
17:45 typo3_newbie hi
17:46 typo3_newbie i'm new to typo3 and I have a problem with "indexed_search" and "macinasearchbox"
17:46 typo3_newbie search works, the searchbox in the template too
17:46 typo3_newbie but the searchbox only works on the site where the indexed_search is located
17:47 typo3_newbie As written in the documentation I inserted "plugin.tx_macinasearchbox_pi1 {pidSearchpage = 34}" in the setup of my template
17:48 typo3_newbie pid=34 is the site where indexed_search is located
17:49 typo3_newbie any ideas?
17:49 drupalino hi
17:49 typo3_newbie hi
17:49 drupalino question about templates
17:49 typo3_newbie about tx_macinasearchbox for the indexed_search ;)
17:49 drupalino where are the template directory?
17:50 typo3_newbie of my html-template or of the template of macinasearchbox?
17:50 drupalino a static template (index.html)
17:50 typo3_newbie fileadmin/templates/fcb/index.html
17:51 typo3_newbie I put the marker in the template and this part works
17:51 typo3_newbie so there is on every site the searchbox
17:51 typo3_newbie but it only works on id=34 which is the site where indexed_search is located
17:52 drupalino have no "templates"
17:52 drupalino i use quickstart
17:52 typo3_newbie plugin.tx_macinasearchbox_pi1 {pidSearchpage = 34} <-- there is the problem I think
17:53 typo3_newbie i wrote this in the setup-field of my template but macinasearchbox isn't linked to id=34 :-\ It's linked to the current site-id and so it doesn't work because on other sites then 34 there is no indexed_search
17:54 typo3_newbie ist there a syntax-error?
18:02 typo3_newbie problem solved - i don't know exactly why but now the searchbox works on every page
18:38 mosez i want to change the wrap of a regular text element with type header. knows somebody how?
18:53 Denyerec You mean you want to change the wrap on the text element based on the type set for the header?
19:15 mosez i've got it...
19:36 Hooty Hi, does anybody have an idear how i coul limit filedownload per fe user in typo3?
19:57 andreasbalzer does anybody know a DAM gallery supporting sub galleries in a view like coppermine or gallery2?
20:57 mosez is there a not equal operator on conditions in typoscript?
20:57 mosez != doesnt work for me...
20:58 wacky_ is there a way to change the Workspaces' notification e-mail "FROM" headers ??
20:58 wacky_ or to specify something more appropriate than "(obscured mail address)" ?
20:59 mosez the typo3 page search sucks... no link really works if i search for "condition operator"
21:12 chefan old news
21:13 chefan not quite a good reference for the platform
21:13 chefan it makes you wonder: "if i start a site with typo3, and some day later on have to switch the server, will i fuck up my system likewise?"
21:14 chefan very embarrassing ;)
21:35 nutcase has anyone a hint, if the feature "edit users created by your fe_user" which is in feuser_admin is possible in sr_feuser_register
22:32 mosez so there doesnt exist any "not equal" operator for conditions on typoscript?
22:36 Denyerec There's an IF EQUAL
22:36 Denyerec to which the obvious "else" branch is "not equal
22:36 Denyerec "
22:36 Denyerec DUnno if that's any good for you?
22:38 mosez but define a else tree to get not equal is not very nice
22:45 Denyerec This is true.

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