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00:04 Denyerek You know
00:04 Denyerek I can feel Levitan's pain.
00:04 AlexTheGer1 hi there
00:04 Denyerek but every time I think about writing / videoing a "beginners guide", the whole thing gets so totally massive I wonder if it's really a beginners guide at all...
00:05 AlexTheGer1 I'm currently using Typo3 4.1.5 with MySQL Version 4. Are there any restriction if I switch to MySQL Version 5?
00:05 Denyerek You might get a host of charset issues
00:05 Denyerek and if you've used the multiplDBFieldSize field in the install tool to account for UTF-8 translations, you will have to set it back to 1 and update your DB
00:05 Denyerek otherwise no.
00:10 AlexTheGer1 Denyerek: Where can I find the multiplDBFieldSize?
00:10 Denyerek Install tool
00:10 Denyerek "all configuration"
00:10 Denyerek multiplydbfieldsize I think the key is called
00:10 Denyerek just search the page for "multiply" and you'll find it easy enough
00:10 Denyerek I gotta sleep, so I will return tomorrow.
00:11 AlexTheGer1 thanks alot
00:11 AlexTheGer1 its allready set to 1 so I guess I'm fine
00:11 a7p mmm ... any ideas who I most comfortably add some pagespecific css-stuff?
00:11 a7p best would be inclusion via PAGE-TS ...
00:22 ries hey guys... if you like me, please vote here : http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TYPO3_Playing_Cards#Community_.2B_TUG
00:22 ries Denyerek: !!!
00:26 kreegee hm
00:27 Nipsting anyone know which extension is best for showing an external URL as content ?
00:27 kreegee anybody an idea what can cause ###CAPTCHA_IMAGE### to not be replaced in jk_poll ?
00:37 jsfan hello everyone
04:13 falcon-01 Hi. I am experimenting with typo3-4.1.5. When I click the "save document and view page" icon while editing a content element, it saves but reloads the content editing page. It does not view the page.
04:13 falcon-01 Any idea why?
05:10 falcon-01 Is there anybody here who has used typo-4.1.x?
05:21 chefan yup
05:21 chefan 4.1.2
05:23 chefan hmm
05:23 chefan do you have a popup blocker running in your browser which is set to block without informing you?
05:25 chefan the page view comes up in a new window (with my firefox config in a tab)
05:32 falcon-01 chefan: I'll be damned! You are right. That was it. It was so long ago I posted the "save and view" question, it took me a bit to figure out that was what you were answering :-)
05:32 falcon-01 Thank you very much. I did not realize I had pop-ups turned off on Firefox.
05:33 falcon-01 Another question. I am logged in as admin. Why do I not get any edit pencils on the front end when I preview.
05:39 chefan you have to activate that in the admin panel
05:39 chefan per default you just get an admin box at the bottom of the page
05:40 chefan (i am not sure if the template has to support that, with the default templates you get it)
05:41 chefan if you click on the admin box, there is an option "editing"
05:41 chefan with a checkbox for frontend editing
05:42 chefan and i doubt you will be damned because of that. neither for using typo3, less so for firefox :o)
05:54 falcon-01 I thought it might be something like that but I don't seem to be able to find the admin box you are talking about. Are you talking about in the "User Admin" menu or perhaps in the Page module?
05:56 falcon-01 Wait! I think I just found it in the front end. I see a greyadmin panel at the very bottom corner I did notice before.
05:58 chefan that's it
05:58 chefan it has a plus in the upper right corner
05:58 falcon-01 Yep. That was it. Aparrently there have been more changes. The check box is called "Display Edit Icons:"
05:58 chefan open it up and you get a couple of rather useful options and debug info
05:59 chefan you can simulate logged on users for instance, or display fe-user context
05:59 chefan quite practical
06:01 falcon-01 Cool. It has other options as well. I just tried the "Display Edit Panels" checkbox and it added an edit panel for each content element as well as the pencils. There are other admin options as well. I will keep experimenting.
06:01 falcon-01 chefan: Thanks again!
06:03 chefan de nada
06:09 falcon-01 Hmm. Even though I have "Display Edit Icons" checked. When I collaps the "Editing" field in the Admin panel, the icons disapear. Are they supposed to only be visible when it is expanded in the admin panel?
06:11 chefan usually typo3 is maintained via the backend
06:12 chefan you have the workflow options there too
06:12 chefan the frontend editing is more for hotfixing
06:12 chefan but if i remember right there are extensions to maintain a site from the frontend
06:18 falcon-01 Yes. I plan to do most work from the backend but I figured it we end up having other manage any content, it would probably be easier for them from the front end.
06:19 falcon-01 I was curious because version 3.x always had the edit icons when I was logged in. I am still
06:19 falcon-01 a complete newbe but I evaluated it a couple of years ago.
06:20 chefan it has grown
06:21 chefan if that's a good ting or not i will leave up to you to decide
06:21 falcon-01 It is kind of rough going because the videos and so much of the documentation is out of date with the current version. So, I really appreciate the help. I may be doing quit a bit of hanging out here as I am learning it :-).
06:23 chefan yep, the channel is quite responsive for a support channel
06:23 falcon-01 Good. That is what I was hoping to hear :-).
06:25 chefan i don't trust typo3 :D
06:25 chefan must be because i ave to work with it
06:26 falcon-01 Not sure I understand. What do you not trust about it?
06:28 chefan the platform
06:28 chefan typo3 is growing in some kind of application server with integrated cms
06:28 falcon-01 you mean PHP?
06:28 chefan and i doubt if php is the proper platform for that
06:28 chefan php is just the language
06:29 chefan object oriented programming in php always was a major pain in the ass
06:29 chefan that is just about to get better with php5
06:31 falcon-01 We would have prefered a CMS written in Perl because I did not want to have to learn another language if we ever had to do any of our on maintenance in the future.
06:31 falcon-01 However...
06:31 chefan try plone
06:31 falcon-01 I could not find any perl based CMS's that had the kind of features of typo3
06:32 chefan zeo/zope/plone, application server in python
06:33 thone_ im trying ruby on rail, just to mention a third way ^^
06:34 falcon-01 Same thing goes. I know perl but not Python. Also, Plone uses yet another database engine that is on an island of it's own. I like the fact that I am supposed to be able to use postgresql with typo3 but I have not learned how to swith databases yet.
06:34 chefan you could use Zope with postgres as well
06:35 chefan but since the Zeo server uses an object database, that would be against the concept
06:36 falcon-01 Also, I really like the document tree layout in typo3's backend. Even though the learning curve is large, that part seemed more intuitive to me than the other cms's from the start.
06:38 chefan typo3 is powerfull, atm badly documented and takes a lot of consideration
06:38 falcon-01 From some of the reviews I found, Plone appears to have at least as big a learning curve as typo3.
06:38 chefan i wouldn't employ it for small projects, but if you consider switching the db to postgres, you prolly don't work with light projects anyway
06:39 chefan depends
06:39 chefan i tried it out during an evaluation
06:39 chefan the thing is, basic funcionality is achieved more rapidly than in typo3
06:39 chefan tweaking takes knowledge in both
06:40 falcon-01 They are light now, but maybe not in the future. I need to learn if I can export the data from mysql to postgresql in the future. If not, we probably should start with postgresql.
06:40 chefan later on, i personally tend to believe that you run into less problems and limitations with zope/plone
06:40 chefan you allways can
06:40 chefan the data is not the problem
06:41 chefan the model how to store it is
06:41 chefan might be that you'll have to rework that
06:41 chefan but migrating is possible in any case
06:41 chefan where i work, the mysql for typo3 usually isn't changed
06:42 chefan besides, there is no reason why you cannot use mysql in typo3 and back it up with postgresql as data storage for business data
06:43 chefan leave the authorization stuff to mysql and put a postgresql behind that
06:43 chefan postgresql is not better in any way than mysql, it's just for another job
06:45 falcon-01 I have always heard that postgresql is more powerful, with transactions, etc.
06:45 chefan we could talk about distributed systems now, but that would be the point when i would have to start to charge ;)
06:45 chefan mysql can do transactions too
06:45 falcon-01 But, if there is no advantage using it with typo3, we may stick with mysql.
06:46 chefan mysql is just a hell lot faster than postgres
06:46 chefan as long as you don't have too many transactions/time on the same table
06:47 chefan but then again, you can avoid trouble there with smart data modeling
06:47 falcon-01 that is interesting. I had not heard that mysql is faster.
06:48 chefan ok, that's partly true
06:49 falcon-01 I just checked the plone site and their demonstration movies are in quicktime. Not a good sign to use commercial formats. We do not have quicktime, flash, etc running on our bsd machines.
06:49 chefan as long as you use the myisam database
06:50 chefan my freebsd does quicktime fine :)
06:50 chefan better than flash
06:51 falcon-01 I am running NetBSD. I havn't tried quicktime under Linux emulation, but flash just crashes.
06:52 chefan typical bsd problem
06:52 chefan i don't touch flash anymore
06:52 falcon-01 For an open source project, they should not use video formats that mplayer cannot play.
06:52 chefan either i use a dummy-plugin to get rid of the annoying "you need a plugin" popups
06:52 falcon-01 At least typo3 uses avi and ogg for their videos.
06:53 chefan or gnash
06:53 chefan which works for the sites with flash navigation
06:53 chefan well, not with the weird "overflashed" ones
06:54 chefan but i have no reason to surf there anyway ;)
06:54 chefan if people are too stupid to do their eyecandy in more lightweight standard conform ways, their loss.
06:54 chefan they don't need me as their user ;)
06:55 chefan what's the problem with quicktime?
06:55 falcon-01 that is the way I feel. That is why something like that makes me skeptical of Plone on first impression.
06:55 chefan as far as i remember there is a native plugin for mplayer available for bsd
06:55 chefan hmm
06:56 falcon-01 really?
06:56 chefan do you go snowboarding?
06:56 falcon-01 I will have to look into that.
06:56 falcon-01 Heh that's a sudden change of topic :-)
06:57 chefan well, i run freebsd, i di have linux compat libraries installed, but the mplayer installation played the plone vids out of the box
06:57 falcon-01 Actually I love to snow ski but unfortunately we are in Oklahoma for a few years before we can move back to the mountains.
06:57 chefan the question was because you started to get a bit anal about the do's and dont's of open source development
06:58 chefan and i wonder if you would still consider using typo3 when you read that kasper sarhoi charges 150 euro to answer any question about typo3, no matter the complexity ;)
06:59 chefan though i guess that's more to keep his inbox clean ;)
06:59 falcon-01 How did that make you think of snowboarding :-)
06:59 falcon-01 No I did not know he did that.
06:59 chefan because that was what made me sceptical of typo3 ;)
06:59 falcon-01 Heh :-)
06:59 chefan the constant mentioning of the snowboarding tours
07:00 chefan always reminds me of that ibm commercial
07:01 chefan to be honest, the only thing that never works out on bsd is flash
07:02 chefan and macromedias policy of secrecy makes me avoid flash as good as i can
07:02 chefan same ting goes for skype
07:02 chefan not because i refuse to use commercial software by principle
07:03 chefan but because i don't like badly maintained commercial software that is likely to crash my system ;)
07:03 falcon-01 I fully agree.
07:03 chefan though a lot of open source is not any better
07:04 falcon-01 I don't use skype either.
07:04 chefan if you want an example, look into the code of PHPWiki
07:05 chefan since when was it cool to import request variables and cast the environment in unprefixed globals?
07:05 chefan the thought that those people might have highly payed jobs as it professionals gives me the shivers
07:06 falcon-01 :-)
07:06 chefan no seriously
07:06 falcon-01 So, what is your opinion of how Plones features compare to typo3. SSL logins?, backend admin?, extension? etc.
07:07 chefan that's something they tell you about 3 times in a row next to the function in the fucking manual NOT to do it. NEVER. under NO circumstances
07:07 chefan grown up ;)
07:07 chefan you can't compare that
07:08 chefan typo3 is a collection of scripts
07:08 chefan a highly capable collection of scripts
07:08 chefan but after all, scripts
07:08 chefan zope is an application server
07:09 chefan users, user groups, user roles, selection in python or python script for extensions, support for all major databases
07:09 chefan object oriented database
07:10 chefan tweakable caching system
07:10 falcon-01 I take back what I said a minute ago. They have the plone videos in other formats such as mpeg4 on a sub page. I am going to check them out.
07:10 chefan :)
07:11 chefan oh, one thing
07:11 chefan maintaining a zeo cluster takes some consideration and rtfm
07:11 chefan plus forget free hosting
07:11 chefan or even cheapass hosting
07:12 chefan or you end up with a snail service ;)
07:12 falcon-01 The hosting is not an issue. We run on a virtual dedicate server with root access.
07:13 chefan the virtual could be
07:14 chefan zope needs ram
07:14 chefan but you'll find hints on that in the howtos about zeo clusters
07:14 falcon-01 Does it consume much more resources than typo3?
07:14 chefan hmm, differently
07:15 chefan as i said, difficult to compare that
07:15 chefan typo3 is a framework based on a webserver with scripting support
07:15 chefan plone is a cms running on an application server in c/python connected to an object oriented database
07:16 falcon-01 We are running on a small inexpensive vds for now with 46Mb ram and 128mb swap. typo3 is running ok on it so far. we would add resources if we started getting trafic.
07:17 chefan 46MB ram oO
07:17 chefan forget about zope ;)
07:17 falcon-01 Oops. I meant 64MB :-)
07:17 chefan on the other hand, typo3 won't be a racer on 46MB neither
07:18 chefan still
07:18 falcon-01 So far, it seems faster than twiki did.
07:18 chefan typo3 speed usually lives and dies with processor and hard disk speed
07:18 chefan database access
07:19 chefan zope needs ram
07:19 chefan to keep persistent objects in ram
07:19 chefan that's why i said you need a different kind of hosting
07:20 chefan but that gets in too deep now, and i have to hit the hay.
07:20 chefan nice talking to you
07:20 falcon-01 The first plone video has horrible video quality. I can hardly see it.
07:21 falcon-01 Ok. thanks for all your input.
07:21 falcon-01 You have given me
07:21 falcon-01 some extra stuff to think about.
07:21 chefan you're welcome
07:22 chefan actually, without knowing the business model, it's fairly difficult to pick the right cms
07:23 falcon-01 We just don't want to have to change cms's later as we grow our sites.
07:23 chefan some would be better off with drupal even than with typo3, others should consider working just with the zend api
07:23 chefan that's a good point
07:23 chefan but there are projects where you don't calculate that far in the future
07:24 chefan and consider running a site for a couple of years and when it runns out of usefullness you start something new or go into 2nd edition
07:25 chefan like when you rent a house, you usually don't consider if you want to have more children
07:25 falcon-01 We don't want to have to learn a completely different system in the future if we can avoid it by making the right choice now.
07:25 chefan but if you buy one, that's a different story
07:26 falcon-01 To follow that scenario, we know we will be having a lot of kids in the future :-).
07:31 chefan generally spoken, typo3 won't be the worst choice i guess
07:31 chefan if your necessities are not too special
07:31 falcon-01 I think I will evaluate plone more closely based on what you have told me.
07:34 chefan if you need to know more about zope/plone, ask at http://opensource-consult.com
07:36 falcon-01 Ok. thanks. I will check it out.
07:37 falcon-01 The problem with their plone video, is it is low resolution. Other than that, it seems professionally done.
07:37 chefan n8 (next try)
07:38 chefan ah, yes
07:39 chefan well, maybe the target customer is supposed to watch it on a vga monitor temporarily attached to a root server :D
07:39 chefan on fvwm...
07:40 chefan or on netbsd on an ipaq :D
07:40 falcon-01 :-) It looks that way.
07:43 falcon-01 I don't see anything about plone on opensource-consult.com except advertising their hosting service for it.
07:51 falcon-01 On cmsmatrix.org plone seems to have all the features of typo3. I think I will evaluate it more carefully before deciding.
08:04 falcon-01 thone_: Sorry about ignoring you earlier. It just dawned on me that it was not chefan who said that :-) Isn't truby on rails a web programming framework and not really a graphical cms?
08:11 gerards falcon-01: yes.
08:12 gerards but there some cms built on it (and more coming i'm sure.... eeeww)
08:12 falcon-01 Ok.
08:16 falcon-01 If anybody is interested. I said the plone video was low resolution. Turns out I accidently download a lower res version they had. Download the 49MB avi and it looks great.
08:18 gerards thanks. I think most of us here are either sleeping right now, or not very interested in plone :D
08:20 falcon-01 Yea, I figured that. Just trying to be fair after my earlier comments :-).
08:21 Ruudi good morning
08:23 Ruudi anyone known with DB Integrations ext?
08:31 Ruudi hi kermit
08:54 m0oman moo.
08:56 mikhas Is it possible to replace the TMENU-linktext , <a href="#">this text</a> to something else? I can't find the proper typoscript-code to be able to replace it.
08:56 mikhas diggin into the tsref as we speak.
09:16 mikhas ah, found it. NO.stdWrap.field =
09:39 FloLeBlanc hi all
09:39 Ruudi morning
09:39 FloLeBlanc so.. how is everyone in my favourite irc channel today? :)
09:40 Ruudi morning it is but seems fine despite the bad luck with an extension lol
09:40 Ruudi no not luck lack of knowledge
09:48 FloLeBlanc Ruudi: which one
09:48 Ruudi dm integrations
09:48 Ruudi just cant make the correct select query for search
09:49 FloLeBlanc so it is a mysql problem or a TS problem to build the query? :)
09:49 Ruudi building the query i guess :)
09:50 FloLeBlanc never worked with that ext sorry :( but if it's a generic sql question I can try to help
09:50 Ruudi hmm ok i'll try to explain as it is mysql generally i think
09:50 FloLeBlanc aaaah.. my graphics guy quits our company in 2 weeks *cry*
09:50 Ruudi oh that's bad
09:51 Ruudi me still doing most of designs by myself
09:51 FloLeBlanc yes.. because I suck very much at doing all kind of graphics and he was very good.. I wonder who they will hire
09:51 Ruudi good change for typo3 stuff
09:51 FloLeBlanc :)
09:54 Ruudi SELECT * FROM tx_brtirebase_profile WHERE tx_brtirebase_profile.brand = ###BRAND###
09:54 Ruudi i got a query simple as this
09:54 FloLeBlanc if tx_bretc. is a string field: WHERE tx_brtirebase_profile.brand = '###BRAND###
09:54 Ruudi ###BRAND### is a numeric brand id that comes form another table via filter form
09:54 FloLeBlanc '
09:54 FloLeBlanc ah ok :)
09:54 Ruudi query like this should work i guess?
09:55 FloLeBlanc if it is a numeric ID, yes
09:55 FloLeBlanc imho
09:55 Ruudi numeric yes
09:56 Ruudi and there is no much debug information just says me, probably i'm missing something in the plugin-query setup "Query failed (uid=2)"
09:57 FloLeBlanc did you try ' around the id for testing?
09:57 Ruudi i'll try
09:58 Ruudi mhm better indeed now says the not found message from plugin
09:59 Ruudi interesting thou still cant find anything, it's a simple form like this: http://www.gislaved.ee/incoming/typo/?id=43
09:59 Ruudi as yous ee the search and brand selector
10:00 Ruudi and below is listed the whole table that's the search made from
10:01 FloLeBlanc I don't quite get how ###BRAND#### is substituted
10:02 FloLeBlanc Gislaved should find me something if I see this correct?
10:03 Ruudi brand is in different table and db integrations plugin lets to build a search based on ###BRAND### marker in query, so it gives list of brands fomr one table and should put the id of it into ###BRAND### marker in query
10:03 Ruudi yes it should
10:03 Ruudi as it's the brand id=1
10:03 FloLeBlanc can you edit the page directly I guess? did you try output the ###BRAND### marker value?
10:03 FloLeBlanc with a simple echo, print or debug?
10:04 Ruudi i'll digg around maybe i can do it from somewhere
10:04 FloLeBlanc hmm on the other hand it already says query failed uid=2 so the value should be posted hmm I'd check that anyway
10:09 Ruudi thnx Flo i'll try to play with it for some mor ehour will see :)
10:15 FloLeBlanc hmm how can I do an option split that adds a new seperator after every 4 entries for a menu?
10:16 FloLeBlanc f.e. : mp1 mp2 mp3 mp4 <> mp5 mp6 mp7 mp8 <> mp9
10:16 Ruudi hm somehow with |*| maybe never got it quite
10:16 Ruudi but it's possible to wrap every menu item so it should be possible to do it over 4
10:16 FloLeBlanc hmm I thought that is only for first and last
10:37 valdo hi everybody
10:37 valdo I have a contact form with a newsletter checkbox
10:38 valdo "I want to receive the ALT newsletter"
10:38 tuedel hey, is there a possibility to define a special offset value for each menu-element?
10:38 valdo is there a plugin that allow me to do both the contact thing and the newsletter thing ?
10:38 tuedel i want to arrange them in line though rotated
10:40 tuedel so every following menu element must be arranged about 20 pixels higher than the previous
10:51 tuedel i have the feeling that it's something simple, but google doesn't help :(
10:51 FloLeBlanc you could try to check out ts-ref http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/current/view/
10:52 FloLeBlanc never done such a thing you need before :)
10:52 FloLeBlanc what would work in any case is doing a small user function as described in MTBI that stores the last value and posts it back while creating the menu
10:53 FloLeBlanc but I don't think that is the most elegant way :)
10:54 tuedel :7
10:54 tuedel thanks though ;)
10:54 tuedel i'll try tsref
10:57 tuedel umh
10:58 void hello guys
10:58 void anyone worked with eID scripts?
11:01 FloLeBlanc not me void sorry
11:08 alexwx Helo there, is possible to make a default INSERT queries in ext_tables.sql? Thank you
11:08 FloLeBlanc how would I specify that EACH menu item (no matter if NO, RO, ACT) should be wrapped with something. wrap only wraps the whole menu, allWrap won't work for me
11:10 tuedel FloLeBlanc did it - i just defined 10.offset = 0, 130 || 0, 115 || 0, 100 || 0, 85 || 0, 75 || 0, 60 || 0, 45 || 0, 30 || 0, 15 || 0, 0 ;)
11:11 FloLeBlanc tuedel: well you have to consider this is not very expandable though :)
11:11 tuedel no, but the page ends at the last element, though :D
11:11 FloLeBlanc if you have more than 10 entries this will repeat the hmm first or last not sure element over and over :)
11:12 FloLeBlanc (height of the last element of course not unlimited copies of the menu item)
11:12 tuedel i will define a maximum :D
11:13 FloLeBlanc hehe
11:13 tuedel the problem now is ... i wanted to have a transparent background and with the rotation, the whole background color of the menu is like the font color?! oO
11:13 alexwx is possible to make a default INSERT queries in ext_tables.sql? Thank you
11:14 FloLeBlanc alexwx if someone knows it he/she will answer, waiting 20-30 minutes is not unusual here, please don't repost the question every 5 mins :)
11:15 alexwx FloLeBlanc ooooo thank you... great
11:15 alexwx thanx for help
11:15 tuedel alexwx well if we simply don't know how to solve your problem, we can't help you ;)
11:16 alexwx ok
11:16 tuedel wtf the gmenu's background color is exactly the font color oO
11:17 FloLeBlanc tuedel: well, did you define a back color?
11:17 tuedel jep
11:18 tuedel backcolor = ... and transparentBackground = 1
11:18 FloLeBlanc how would that fit together?
11:18 tuedel well
11:18 tuedel how can i explain
11:18 FloLeBlanc never tried it but I can't imagine the difference between transparent red and transparent green :)
11:18 tuedel the borders are not exactly transparent
11:19 tuedel it's kind of antialias'ed
11:19 FloLeBlanc have a link and post the ts o phpfi.com?
11:19 tuedel and if i don't define a background color value there remains some white stuff around the letters
11:19 tuedel ok
11:22 tuedel umh phpfi seems not to work
11:22 tuedel http://phpfi.com/299339
11:22 tuedel :D
11:22 FloLeBlanc http://phpfi.com/299340 :-P
11:23 tuedel aaah
11:23 tuedel http://phpfi.com/299341
11:24 tuedel there you go :>
11:24 tuedel i chose the wrong file to upload :D
11:24 FloLeBlanc have a link to the page tuedel?
11:25 tuedel it looks like this: http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=transparentxf9.jpg
11:25 tuedel link would be http://www.denksport-regional.de/index.php
11:29 FloLeBlanc hmm
11:30 FloLeBlanc shouldn't you create a new image for what you are trying to do?
11:31 tuedel what do you mean?
11:31 tuedel i would be happy enough if the background was transparent :D
11:32 FloLeBlanc NO { 10 = IMAGE , etc. }
11:32 FloLeBlanc and create the text on a new image with gifbuilder
11:32 tuedel do i have to? oO
11:32 FloLeBlanc I guess so
11:33 tuedel well i adapted this from another, simple GMENU
11:33 tuedel and for it is actually the same except for the rotation i though that its okay
11:34 FloLeBlanc hmm I guess if you just rotate the simple menu version t3 applies the transparent background and AFTERWARDS rotates the image which results in your problems
11:34 tuedel hmmm
11:34 FloLeBlanc but I'm no expert on this :)
11:34 tuedel well
11:34 tuedel i switched EFFECT and TEXT ;)
11:35 tuedel but now the rotatin is gone ... damn :D
11:35 FloLeBlanc *G*
11:35 FloLeBlanc hmm sorry have to go back to my menu problem "break after every 4 items" problem :)
11:36 tuedel okay, thanks though
11:38 tuedel oh
11:38 tuedel simply turned off nicetext
11:38 tuedel and it works ;)
11:41 FloLeBlanc tuedel: congrats :)
11:41 tuedel thanks \o/
11:52 void anyone worked with sessions?
11:52 void typo3 sessions i mean
12:05 Denyerec Morning all.
12:06 Denyerec Looking for someone familiar with DAM
12:06 Denyerec Any takers?
12:07 FloLeBlanc hi denyerec... still no luck :(
12:07 Denyerec Well, I'm just curious
12:07 Denyerec because it doesn't seem to function like the normal image caching system
12:07 Denyerec I will have to try soemthing else
12:19 FloLeBlanc hi just2b
12:20 Denyerec if I want to test 4.2b, to upgrade I just change the symlink and pray, right
12:20 Denyerec Or is running the DB update mandatory ?
12:23 void Denyerec: first variant
12:23 Denyerec As little as that?
12:24 void but i am not sure...
12:24 void maybe some tables added? dunno
12:26 void i need help =) first time for long time...
12:26 Denyerec Ouch.
12:26 Denyerec Wassup.
12:27 void is it possible to use sessions with anonymous fe users or not?
12:33 FloLeBlanc void: well if you do an own extension it should be able to set it's own session cookie or do you mean by default?
12:34 void FloLeBlanc: i do not want to re-make session machanism... i want to use typo3's
12:35 FloLeBlanc void: then the answer is: for anonymous users - sorry I don't know
12:36 void FloLeBlanc: did you make your extensions? and maybe use $GLOBALS['TSFE']->fe_user->getKey/setKey..
12:36 FloLeBlanc no didn't use that yet sorry, I only got some database vars from a registered user to work with his phone nr for sms
12:38 void okay..
12:45 Denyerec void - you want to store some data from a non logged in user?
12:45 void Denyerec: yes
12:45 Denyerec And I presume that Typo's session mechanism demands that yu be an fe_user before storing anything?
12:45 void fe_user object is not identical to fe_user table..
12:45 Denyerec would it perhaps be a suitable workaround to create and auto-login a "guest" fe_user /
12:46 void dunno. as i read, there should be "browser" session, which is not bound to fe user
12:46 void but i doesn't work for me... dunno why
12:55 Denyerec Anyone feel like expliaining in English what this does: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/dam_ttcontent/1.0.2/view/1/1/
12:55 Denyerec I read it three times, and it still didn't make a heap of sense.
12:59 void Denyerec: it gives possibility to store usual content as DAM content..
13:04 Denyerec Ahhhhh righty
13:04 Denyerec so I could tag up a normal content element as a DAM item, and then use the DAM browser to splurge it out elsewhere
13:13 Nipsting anyone know which extension is best for showing an external URL as content ?
13:22 Denyerec How'd you mean ?
13:22 Denyerec Opening an external page in an iFrame ?
13:22 Denyerec or sucking external content into your own content elements?
13:43 j0hnd33re Good morning, earth humans.
13:44 just2b hi
13:44 FloLeBlanc hello
13:45 just2b oh i hate days like this one.. you too? ^^
13:46 FloLeBlanc the ones where no one offers you a beer for free?
13:46 just2b the ones where you need to fix 10 things at one time
13:48 Nipsting sorry Denyerec, just had a visitor so I didnt see you writing.
13:48 Nipsting Im thinking about external content into a content element
13:48 Denyerec Screenscraping, or pulling from a legit resource like RSS ?
13:48 Denyerec There are several RSS reading extensions for Typo3.
13:48 Denyerec But screenscraping is a little different.
13:49 Denyerec Also do you want the content pulled into an editable content element, or just presented verbatim ?
13:49 Denyerec EG, do you want to CREATE content elements from the exrtrernal content, or simply display it on your page ?
13:49 Denyerec (Bear in mind, I have no idea how to achieve the latter, I'm just interested and thus asking questions)
13:49 Nipsting just presented, there is an admin module for the external site which will just open directly in the content element
13:49 Denyerec How is the external information packaged?
13:50 Denyerec Just normal HTML or is there an RSS or someo ther syndication feed
13:50 Nipsting PHP site
13:50 Denyerec -- Has anyoen notices how both IBM and Microsoft have mouse-over activated JS/CSS tabs on their homepages now ?
13:50 Denyerec yeah, the information may eb on a PHP site, but it must be structured in SOME way.
13:51 Denyerec If you want to scrape out information from a page presented using some kind of arbitrary format, then you're going to need to write your own extension that is customised to read that arbiterary format.
13:51 Denyerec *arbitrary
13:51 Nipsting not exactly sure what you mean by structured .. its a fairly simple PHP page setup using tables
13:52 Nipsting I tried an old extension called FetchURL but it has some problems reading the CSS it seems
13:54 Nipsting have to admit that im very new to Typo3. Used joomla before (and I dont regret switching to typo3)
13:54 Denyerec I want to find someone who's used Drupal extensivly
13:54 Denyerec To see how they feel about Typo3
13:54 Denyerec (I know Mambo and Joomla are both stink)
13:54 Nipsting never heard about Drupal
13:54 just2b never say the j**** or n**** word
13:55 just2b n=m ;)
13:55 Nipsting yeah, the amount of problems I had with joomla was staggering. Not to mention the fact that handling around 1200 users on the site using joomla was a nightmare
13:55 FloLeBlanc there! he said the word! *throws a stone* :)
13:55 just2b 1200 editors or normal visitos?
13:56 just2b FloLeBlanc he switched, he is a good guy, NOW ;)
13:56 FloLeBlanc hehe
13:56 Nipsting around 35 editors, and alot of special members (with custom privileges)
13:57 void Denyerec: installed d***l some time ago. cannot understand how to use it administration module
13:57 just2b Nipsting have fun with TYPO3
13:57 Denyerec :)
13:57 Denyerec fgood
13:57 just2b btw all of you > did you read about the card game???
13:58 Denyerec ?
13:58 Denyerec cardf game ?
13:58 just2b http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TYPO3_Playing_Cards
13:58 just2b read and vote
13:59 Nipsting justb2 hehe had loads of fun with it already ;)
13:59 just2b Nipsting cool.. wanna see the url when it is done
14:00 just2b @ card game > you can vote for me too if you wanna see my face lol > georg ringer ;)
14:01 Nipsting sure.. will take some time to set up the site tho, designer is a bit slow
14:02 Nipsting was surprised how easy it was to set up TempVoila
14:04 just2b hehe yeah.. also without.. doesnt really matter
14:05 just2b i once transred the website of a friend from static to typo3, running with realurl, a gallery, page tree, menus, in 45min ;)
14:06 Nipsting that was fast :o
14:06 FloLeBlanc I want to vote for voidus for interesting extension knowledge :)
14:06 FloLeBlanc and for ries as special infiltration card for logging this channel
14:06 just2b lol
14:06 just2b i wanna vote for me ;)
14:06 just2b because of 3 reassons *gg*
14:07 just2b 20+ext in ter, most ratings in TER, 14.000 postings for the community :D
14:07 FloLeBlanc will this be a normal cardset or a special game? like typo3 the gathering
14:07 just2b normal card game, just the deck is different
14:07 FloLeBlanc just2b but yes some of them like "vielleicht war wochenende, schon mal dran gedacht" aren't THAT helpful *G*
14:08 ries yeaa you need to vote for me :D
14:08 ries I already placed my one vote.... hehehehe
14:08 FloLeBlanc You are also invited to write your ideas for attributes, which are used for the game: Finally we will decided for 6 of them at the TYPO3camp. ha NOT a normal cardgame
14:08 FloLeBlanc ries special finishing move: "write a search algorithm for the log and jail every member of #typo3 for various reasons"
14:09 Nipsting Typo3 the Gathering ?
14:09 ries FloLeBlanc: Huuuu explain!
14:09 just2b FloLeBlanc so it is not true?#
14:10 FloLeBlanc ries: this was just a joke about you logging the channel and I guess each of us has said something he is not that proud of :)
14:10 FloLeBlanc (in our whole #typo3 history)
14:10 ries oooo... sorry it's 8AM here... I am not awake then :)
14:10 FloLeBlanc just2b: well it is stated it will not be a normal cardgame but some sort of "fantasy attack power defense something cardgame"
14:10 FloLeBlanc collectible card game perhaps? *G*
14:11 FloLeBlanc hey I can REALLY vote for ries
14:11 FloLeBlanc *has to do that*
14:12 ries thanks :)
14:12 just2b a then sry
14:13 FloLeBlanc damn he's still behind
14:13 FloLeBlanc allthough I sacrificed my 2 votes in the category part for the famous ries van twisk
14:13 FloLeBlanc (actually I was the first one who voted for him LOL)
14:14 FloLeBlanc the main problem is.. I don't know any real names of the ppl in this chat hehe
14:14 FloLeBlanc only mr. kraft and mr. ries
14:14 FloLeBlanc van twisk that is
14:14 ries FloLeBlanc: just lookup just2b on google.. then you will know aswell ;)
14:14 Nipsting isnt there ALOT of german users ?
14:15 just2b ries lol yeah very hard.. just2b.com or 14.000 hits or so ;)
14:15 ries Nipsting: there are....
14:15 FloLeBlanc I should add Jigal to the list for famous cooking skills
14:15 ries just2b: then just2b and typo3 ;)
14:15 FloLeBlanc anf for beeing right of course
14:18 FloLeBlanc just2b: where can we check out the nominations for "best typo3 website" for the awards?
14:19 Nipsting god.. there is alot of loginbox extensions. Hmm now to find one that works with simulatebe
14:19 Denyerec just2b - whuich gallery ext. do you favour?
14:20 just2b depends on the needs
14:20 just2b FloLeBlanc you mean the other award?
14:20 FloLeBlanc just2b: the ones you mention on typo3.net
14:20 Denyerec for example the 45 min. site you cited above
14:21 just2b FloLeBlanc link?
14:21 just2b Denyerek no it is not worth.. it is still ugly ;)
14:21 FloLeBlanc http://www.typo3.net/index.php?id=13&action=list_post&tid=74206
14:21 Nipsting http://www.supcom-live.com/ <-- thats a pretty damn nice Typo3 site
14:22 FloLeBlanc I'd like to see the submissions for best site
14:22 porkpie Den
14:22 Denyerec oi oi
14:22 just2b FloLeBlanc this will come out later
14:22 porkpie Have an issue with citrusagents
14:22 just2b Nipsting yeah i now ;)
14:22 Denyerec well flo, my name is Denyer, so you can add me to the list :)
14:22 Denyerec porkpie - pm me
14:23 Denyerec or join #systemcms
14:23 Nipsting just2b hmm did you have something to do with it ? :o
14:23 FloLeBlanc denyerec: you only have 2 votes for the community section :(
14:23 Denyerec I'm amazed I even feature
14:23 FloLeBlanc nipsting: yes nice site..
14:23 Denyerec I just idle in here and moan a lot
14:23 Denyerec Hardly community support :D
14:23 FloLeBlanc you are?
14:23 FloLeBlanc featured I mean?
14:23 FloLeBlanc didn't check that :)
14:23 Denyerec I wouldn't thinks o
14:23 Denyerec so
14:24 Denyerec [13:24] <FloLeBlanc> denyerec: you only have 2 votes for the community section :( <---- what do you mean by this
14:24 FloLeBlanc I want to vote for the whole #typo3 chan :)
14:24 Denyerec hehehe
14:24 FloLeBlanc denyerec: the possible votes are divided into sections.. community is one of them. each person has only 2 votes for each section, I voted ries x2 because I didn#t know anyone else *G*
14:24 FloLeBlanc so my votes are finished, I must not add you hehe
14:25 Nipsting I have one vote left.. Ill save it for when I need some help with something (again) ;)
14:25 FloLeBlanc lol
14:25 FloLeBlanc that's cruel
14:26 FloLeBlanc I say we negative-vote Nipsting for bribery :)
14:26 Denyerec Ahhhh
14:26 Denyerec hahaha
14:26 Denyerec supcom live was Pulponair wasn't it ?
14:26 Denyerec or was it Kraftb....
14:26 Denyerec I can never rememeber
14:26 Nipsting If I appear on the list the wiki will probably crash
14:27 Denyerec I seem to think it was pulp
14:27 FloLeBlanc KraftB = bernhard kraft
14:27 FloLeBlanc or what is supcom? :)
14:27 Nipsting supcom-live.com .. community site for supreme commander
14:27 FloLeBlanc ah the site
14:27 FloLeBlanc nvm
14:27 just2b i did some things at supcom ;)
14:27 FloLeBlanc lol
14:27 Nipsting just2b, together with zhrance ?
14:28 just2b dont know this guy
14:28 just2b i know antonio ;)
14:28 just2b lol FloLeBlanc you just should have voteed for me
14:28 just2b :D
14:28 Nipsting Niels Van Tilborg
14:29 FloLeBlanc At the time I vote the only name I knew was that of ries
14:29 FloLeBlanc everyone knows ries ;)
14:29 just2b everyone knows just2b
14:29 Nipsting not me :P
14:29 FloLeBlanc who is just 2b? :)
14:29 FloLeBlanc will I see you on the 8. of March btw?
14:30 just2b Denyerek i too .. just not all exts are perfect there
14:30 just2b too=do
14:30 Denyerec hehe
14:30 Denyerec Denyerek is my evil twin
14:30 just2b latest rgmediaimages is 100% cool ;)
14:30 Denyerec he's sat at home, whilst I am 100 miles away
14:30 just2b and this is a very cool ext ;)
14:30 FloLeBlanc hehe
14:31 just2b Nipsting you will know me if you use some extensions ;) rgsmoothgallery, rgtabs, rgslideshow, rggooglemap, rgmediaimages, rg * ;)
14:32 Nipsting Ill have to use a gallery on the site im setting up, so maybe Ill take a look at rgsmoothgallery
14:32 Denyerec indeed just2b, it is very cool.
14:32 Denyerec Now can you make it work with tt_news? :)
14:32 Denyerec rg-not-so-smooth-in-opera-gallery ;)
14:32 just2b Denyerek it works already perfect with tt_news
14:32 just2b http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgmediaimages/rgmediaimages-tt-news.html
14:32 Denyerec It does?
14:32 Denyerec Excellent!
14:32 just2b it does..
14:32 FloLeBlanc hehe
14:32 Denyerec Well, bravo sir!
14:33 Denyerec There was something that I was bemoaning regarding tt_news, that I think a lot of people have also have problems with
14:33 FloLeBlanc now go and vote for just2b denyerec *G*
14:33 just2b so you can play youtube., sevenload, myvideo, metacafe, flv, mp3, swf, dailymotion, quicktime...
14:33 Denyerec that is, dividing the images assigned to a news article, or positioning them in some way
14:33 Denyerec Because its a bit crap that all the images you add to a news article spit out all in one place.
14:34 Denyerec It would be nice to be able to control them in some way, to insixate where they should appear in the text
14:34 Denyerec *indicate
14:34 just2b Denyerec this is no problem at all.. you could set the images inline
14:34 just2b no problem
14:34 Denyerec no RTE, and I have a phobia or RTE embedded images.
14:34 Nipsting just2b how customizeable is smoothgallery. Lets say I want to make some design changes to it, is that easy?
14:34 just2b split them in 2 groups, or whatever
14:34 just2b no problem at all
14:35 just2b Denyerec you dont need the rte embed crap
14:35 Denyerec Go on...
14:36 just2b would this be good > every image got a marker, place the marker in the image, and the image is there
14:36 just2b you know IRRE right?
14:38 Denyerec Yep
14:39 Denyerec Well, vaguely
14:39 just2b so you could make irre inside tt_news adding image records or whatever records, with caption or whatever
14:39 just2b so you get as many image blocks you want
14:41 Denyerec By means of a custom extension, I presume
14:41 just2b of course
14:41 Nipsting Warning: explode() [function.explode]: Empty delimiter. in C:\typo3\htdocs\TestSN\typo3conf\ext\rgsmoothgallery\pi1\class.tx_rgsmoothgallery_pi1.php on line 252 .. ouch, what did I miss
14:42 just2b you didnt click at the update button in extension manager
14:42 just2b (are you using 4.2.)?
14:43 Nipsting got it.. works now.. yeah im using 4.2
14:43 Nipsting seems pretty nice, guess Ill do some more testing with it
14:44 just2b but you dont use latest trunk, right?
14:45 Nipsting beta1a
14:46 just2b old ;)
14:46 just2b use stable version or update regulary ;)
14:46 just2b or life with the bugs, of course also an option ;)
14:47 Nipsting im moving it all to a new server today or tomorrow so Ill update then :)
14:47 Denyerec just - to go from 4.1.2 to 4.2b is it irreversible?
14:47 Denyerec or just a symlink change
14:48 Nipsting also im using the Winstaller atm just for testing
14:48 just2b should be reversible but not with just symlink change
14:48 just2b dont know winstaller ^^
14:48 Denyerec symlink and DB update eh?
14:49 Denyerec I'm really tempted to do it because I want this client to have the modernskin
14:49 Denyerec Silly as that sounds
14:49 just2b but DB update doesnt go with a click
14:49 Nipsting where can I find the latest versions
14:49 Denyerec but I'm not sure of what the major issues are.
14:49 just2b Nipsting svn
14:49 just2b Denyerec so make a copy, what is the problem
14:49 Nipsting got a link to the SVN ? :)
14:49 just2b typo3.org ;)
14:49 Nipsting hehe
14:50 Denyerec problem?
14:50 Denyerec Only my inability to remember SQL commands to make the backup
14:50 Denyerec :/
14:51 Nipsting doesnt phpmyadmin have an easy to use option to make backups?
14:51 Nipsting atleast I think it does
14:55 Nipsting I must be looking the wrong places, cause I cant find the SVN
14:57 Denyerec http://svn.typo3.org ?
14:57 Denyerec Tricky, I admin
14:57 Denyerec admit
14:57 Denyerec ;)
14:58 just2b typo3.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/typo3/TYPO3core/trunk
14:58 Nipsting thanks alot
14:59 just2b Nipsting so i am the guy who helped you, right?
14:59 Denyerec Hahaha
14:59 Denyerec "Rememeber my name"
14:59 Denyerec "And send me money when you make it big"
15:00 Denyerec You know one thing that annoys me, is cheap ass companies that whine about how much you charge for a site
15:00 Denyerec then turn around and make 100,000 pounds off the website that year.
15:00 Nipsting just2b lol, I already voted for you once
15:00 Denyerec which for a £600 site is a damn good ROI
15:20 just2b Nipsting thx ;)
15:38 Denyerec :)
15:38 Denyerec "Now vote for me!"
15:38 Denyerec Or... something.
15:39 ries we can put all active users from hre on the list :D
15:39 ries May be we should of a #TYPO3 card rather then a single name :)
15:39 Denyerec hehehe yeah
15:39 Denyerec given the combined power of this channel, it would be the supercard
15:40 ries ACE
15:40 Denyerec if only we could get Robert and Sebkur to idle here too... ;)
15:44 alexwx Hey... is there some function to remove blank markers from the template in ext? Thanks
15:45 ries http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TYPO3_Playing_Cards#Community_.2B_TUG
15:51 gerards alexwx: maybe you can try a search and replace. preg_replace() or something?
15:53 alexwx gerards ok I know :) or is there some php function how to make an empty all the element,but not remove
15:53 gerards heeheee just trying to be cheeky. alexwx
16:04 Denyerec Gah
16:04 Denyerec I can't log into the wiki
16:04 Denyerec and I can't reset my password, cos I don't know which email address I logged in with
16:27 nd Aloha
16:42 HardPhuck i need someone that successfully integrated some gallery into a website
16:48 Denyerec Only my own gallery
16:48 Denyerec and only on my own websit
16:48 Denyerec e
16:49 Denyerec There's a flash / lightbox gallery kicking around that's NOT one of Just2b's or "lightbox"
16:49 Denyerec ans I can't rememeber the name :(
16:51 alexwx Hey I need a HELP with markers and Subparts
16:51 HardPhuck i have trouble finding a GOOD gallery extension
16:52 alexwx I have some subparts on the template, but just sometimes I need to show it up. I have a condition, but I dont know how it use! Thank tyoyu
16:57 HardPhuck what kind of condition
17:24 alexwx HEy some one help me please with markers and suparts!!! I have some subparts on the template But I need someone comlpete to remove from the template! It is possible??? How
17:46 a7p HardPhuck, ich Like these Lightbox things ... there are two Extensions which I found usable (for my purposes) ... the rest is simply extremely not-so-nice.
17:46 HardPhuck alex edit the template file
17:47 HardPhuck a7p: names?
17:47 a7p HardPhuck, mmm ... mom
17:47 a7p I'll look them up
17:48 a7p dam_liteshow and rgsmoothgallery
17:48 a7p both are nice by default (which was what I wanted).
17:49 HardPhuck tried those two, don't work for me, but i have just found jm_gallery which is great
17:53 Denyerec a7p - which two ?
17:53 Denyerec liteshow!
17:53 Denyerec I think that's the one I couldn't rememeber from earlier
18:48 ndee hello there, does someone have something like 5+ installations of typo3? Is it recommended to use just one source for all different installations?
18:54 SeeeD yes it is recommended, because you can easy update the typo3 src
19:02 SeeeD i have a question
19:02 SeeeD i don't find the path from ImageMagick
19:02 SeeeD i've installed imagemagick and php5-imagick
19:02 SeeeD phpinfo() says, that imagemagick runs
19:02 void SeeeD: and?
19:03 SeeeD typo3 donÄt find the path
19:03 SeeeD and i don't know where it is
19:03 SeeeD i use debian etch
19:04 SeeeD "dpkg -L ImageMagick" shows me some paths, but no of these works
19:04 void put in command line following "whereis convert"
19:05 SeeeD ok, i try these
19:05 SeeeD no
19:05 SeeeD "No ImageMagick installation available"
19:06 SeeeD i've installed it via "apt-get install ImageMagick php5-imagick"
19:06 SeeeD this should be right
19:07 void i have no php5-imagick installed
19:07 void that's not required
19:07 SeeeD mhhh
19:07 SeeeD ok, but this shouldn't be the problem
19:07 SeeeD or?
19:07 void not, it shouldn't be the problem
19:08 void for me, "convert" is at /usr/bin/convert
19:08 void try that path
19:09 SeeeD no =/
19:09 SeeeD Check LZW capabilities. <- should i select this?
19:09 void don't think so
19:10 SeeeD mh
19:11 SeeeD " An 'adequate' installation for requires 'convert', 'combine'/'composite' and 'identify' to be available"
19:11 SeeeD these directories are in /usr/bin/
19:11 SeeeD but /usr/bin don't work
19:11 void are you sure that you have imagemagick or graphicsmagick installed?
19:12 SeeeD ya
19:12 void so, where is convert?
19:12 SeeeD apt-get install imagemagick
19:12 SeeeD convert -> /usr/bin/convert/
19:13 void is /usr/bin/convert/ a directory?
19:13 SeeeD */usr/bin/convert
19:13 SeeeD no
19:13 SeeeD ^^
19:13 void ah..
19:13 void so, /usr/bin/ should work
19:14 SeeeD it doesn't work
19:14 SeeeD :(
19:14 SeeeD I re install it
19:14 SeeeD *reinstall
19:15 SeeeD i install graphicsmagick
19:15 SeeeD maybe it works with this
19:16 void if so, install also graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat
19:16 SeeeD ok, dunno
19:17 SeeeD which path do i need now?
19:17 void i think same..
19:17 SeeeD it will not work -.-
19:18 SeeeD maybe i made something wrong on the TYPO3 installation?!?
19:19 void maybe... for example, not enough rights, safe mode or /usr/bin is not in safe mode exec dir
19:20 SeeeD ah
19:20 SeeeD safe_mode is on
19:20 SeeeD it should be off
19:20 SeeeD right?
19:20 void it is recommended to set safe mode to off
19:21 void but typo3 can work with safe mode = on
19:21 void you just need to put all needed paths to safe_mode_exec_dir
19:22 SeeeD Safe_mode is off Oo
19:22 SeeeD i thought it is on
19:23 void hm..
19:24 void does typo3 user have enough rights?
19:29 d|g hi all
19:41 SeeeD void, i'm in the install tool
19:41 SeeeD ah
19:42 SeeeD should i start graphicsmagick?
19:42 SeeeD i have no idea how
19:45 nd Don't have to start it. Is it detected by the installer
19:45 nd ?
20:05 SeeeD no
20:05 SeeeD the installer don't detect it nd
20:06 SeeeD but i don't know why
20:12 void SeeeD: maybe you should ignore installer's messages? maybe it will work anyway?
20:14 SeeeD if i go to "Image processing" in the install tool, i see no pictures
20:15 SeeeD ;-)
20:25 SeeeD ok, i've tried to install it by myself
20:25 SeeeD i've missing a c-compiler
20:25 SeeeD maybe it don't works in reason of missing gcc?
20:25 SeeeD or ist it pre-compiled when i install it via apt-get?
20:48 SeeeD void :)
20:48 SeeeD i solved it
20:48 void how?
20:48 SeeeD safe_mode is not off
20:48 SeeeD it is on
20:49 SeeeD i've write in the php.ini this ...
20:49 SeeeD safe_mode_exec_dir = /usr/bin/
20:49 SeeeD now could typo3 use external software ... this was blocked through safe_mode
20:50 SeeeD but.. under image_processing i see no pictures
20:50 SeeeD Oo
20:54 SeeeD :(
21:01 SeeeD =)
21:01 SeeeD now it works
21:02 SeeeD typo3 used "usrc/local/php/bin/" .. but only "usr/bin" has the rights to execute through php
21:02 SeeeD thank you for your help void :)
21:02 void SeeeD: np, my help was minimal)
21:02 SeeeD ^^
21:07 ndee is there an extension which adds a tt_news field to tt_address?
21:38 stubbi hi there
21:40 stubbi i got a problem: i want to set a default news_id in tt_news like described in the tt_news manual, bit that code in there won't work. maybe its because i use templavoila ... no idea so far ):
21:42 stubbi actually the default news_id may be hard-coded. but i will not even get this to work ):
21:47 stubbi hi jo
21:47 stubbi hi joe_
21:48 joe_ hi
21:55 stubbi only germans in here -.-
21:57 ndee nope
21:57 ndee SWISS haha
21:58 stubbi :/
21:58 ndee anyone using tt_news? When I make a category selection for a news, it somehow doesn't "stay", it always gets deselected.
22:00 chefan caching?
22:00 stubbi how to find out what my 1st-column-object is?
22:48 uriahheep void: you around?
22:50 uriahheep i can't remember how i did it, but instead of only having one link for the images in a "text with image" element on an old project, i could have a different link for each image...
22:50 uriahheep does anyone know how to do that?
22:59 uriahheep hmm, never mind, i'm insane :P
23:18 chefan i didn't even get what you intend to do
23:18 chefan might be the alfluence of incohol
23:20 ries Anybody using GMAIL?
23:21 smurfslayer i have an account but do not use it ;)
23:21 smurfslayer why?
23:21 chefan are you considering using the gdata api?
23:21 chefan or what's the question about?
23:25 ries smurfslayer: I was wondering how do I copy and paste a image...
23:25 ries I hardly use gmail because it sucks bad time...
23:26 ries I hate to send an screenshot as an attachment...
23:26 chefan ries: most of the gmail stuff is JS sided
23:27 chefan you could hack into that with grease monkey
23:27 ries I don't like that..
23:27 chefan what exactly do you like then?
23:27 ries I use gmail once a while when my own provider does server maintenance..
23:27 ries then copy/paste doesn't work...
23:27 chefan ever considered using gmail with a mail client that does the trick you want?
23:27 ries chefan: from gmail I don't like anything really :)
23:27 chefan you are sso negative
23:28 chefan i think it's pathetic to lament about free services ;)
23:28 ries chefan: ok ok... I liek the 6GB storage... but I only use 25MB :D
23:28 ries chefan: I didn't make it free......
23:28 ries I don't like the fact that somebody else holds my valuable information.... I like to keep that for myself
23:29 chefan then avoid emails in general
23:29 ries I don't like that it's still beta.... things can go wrong still
23:29 chefan or the internet
23:29 chefan 1cm of air gives you all the privacy you want :D
23:29 ries Nhaaa.... I rather have my own mail client handle it
23:29 chefan oO
23:29 chefan lol
23:29 chefan you know what?
23:29 chefan all that beta stuff is pretty weird
23:30 ries Ny employer of any company can go in my computer and scan my mail...
23:30 ries with google I bet peopel do that
23:30 chefan M$ rarely had ANY commercial product that even reached beta stage, no matter how they called it
23:30 chefan some alpha projects in the freeBSD ports tree are more stable than the average M$ ripoff
23:31 chefan ries: security is an illusion
23:31 ries chefan: hotmail is free... but I believe that they had a crash for over 24 hours.... I mean who would use such a bad service?
23:31 chefan whenever you outsource a service, you're fucked in that matter
23:32 chefan the key is awareness on the limitations
23:32 chefan gmail & google docs is a hell of a great service
23:32 ries chefan: yup.... I keep that to a minimum or use backups for each server.... for example I always used to use Skype and Gizmo for phone calls.... saved me big time when skype was down for a couple of days
23:32 chefan i hate skype
23:32 chefan like i hate flash
23:33 chefan proprietary 2 class shit
23:33 chefan if i want intranet connectivity, i set up a teamspeak server
23:34 ries i mostly use phone lines... but viop from here to other countries
23:34 chefan anything good enough for freckled ego shooter gamers is to be considered business ready
23:34 ries yugma for screen sharing
23:34 smurfslayer hm ries.. sorry - i only have it for support reasons, if one of my zimbra customers has problems integrating a google calendar to zimbra ;)
23:35 chefan i laughed my ass off about the new star in gamers heaven
23:36 chefan read about the skulltrail?
23:36 chefan a "gamer-pc"
23:36 chefan dual processor board for two xeon quad cores and 4 graphic cards
23:37 ries hahaha my good
23:37 ries I like minesweeper though
23:39 chefan that's so gross
23:39 chefan they recommend 1400 W power supply
23:39 chefan and the box is expected to be about 5000 euro
23:40 chefan for a ridiculously bloated playstation
23:40 chefan and the sad thing is: i am sure there are lobotomized game junkies that will pay for that crap for the 40% increase in performance
23:41 chefan if it will be 40%, since i doubt that game developers will optimize games for parallelization with 8 cores
23:42 ries Must be a awesome minesweeper CPU
23:42 chefan to my mind, once a system has 8 cores, it's either a playstation (ok, that has got only seven) or it does not NEED a graphic card
23:42 chefan servers can be maintained with ssh...
23:43 chefan heh, there was a time when i never ran out of 3d graphic cards
23:44 chefan i knew an admin at a university those days who was always glad to trade in some fancy agp 3d card in turn for a iso tseng et 4000
23:44 chefan a great deal for him, the monkeys there did not even get the idea to try to install games in the universities computer pool
23:45 chefan well, angband or nethack maybe, but that's pretty stable and uses little ressources
23:45 Denyerek Battlefield2 for the win.
23:46 chefan that's what i call win/win business
23:46 chefan the sad thing is that the deal stopped working when onboard graphics became popular
23:47 chefan ries: i am still trying to figure out how to play 8D minesweeper...
23:47 chefan must be quite a mindbender
23:49 uriahheep hey, how do i add a class to the automatically generated content anchors?
23:49 ries chefan: as a starter you can try The Rubiks Hypercube
23:49 uriahheep tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap = <a id="c{field:uid}" class="print-ignore"></a> |
23:49 uriahheep is this a good solution?
23:51 ries chefan: http://www.plunk.org/~hatch/MagicCube4dApplet/
23:51 chefan exec links -g http://www.plunk.org/~hatch/MagicCube4dApplet/
23:51 chefan oops
23:51 uriahheep heheh
23:52 uriahheep links
23:52 uriahheep :P
23:52 chefan erm
23:52 chefan do i miss content with links?
23:52 uriahheep erm... nope
23:52 uriahheep well
23:52 uriahheep depends...
23:52 chefan ok
23:53 uriahheep kind of ;)
23:53 chefan the java plugin does not work too well with links :D
23:53 uriahheep i was just giggling cause i haven't used links in a while ;)
23:53 uriahheep especially not links -g!
23:53 uriahheep i think the last time i used it was when i was running arch linux on my old 500mhz laptop
23:54 chefan oO
23:54 chefan well
23:54 chefan that 4d cube is gross
23:54 uriahheep heh
23:54 uriahheep so, um...
23:55 chefan i think i have to take holidays to catch the HI
23:55 chefan well, i hate wasting ressources ;)
23:55 uriahheep is that solution to add a class to anchor tags a good one? :-/
23:55 chefan why use a bloated software for something a lightweight solution can do
23:56 chefan ok, xmms2 is a luxury
23:56 chefan but it's quite convenient to use it from the irc client ;)

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