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00:00 void ries: which ones?
00:00 void ries: python is really more logical and more simple than ruby
00:00 ries I like to read this: For what ever variable with a descriptive name please call function A
00:00 ries instead of fwa *= [..?-- A]
00:00 void Phlogi: dreams..
00:01 Phlogi yes...
00:01 ries void: I don't know them both really... I started to work my way into java
00:01 Phlogi I don't know, but often waste time in typo3 to find out where the problem is.... that should be easier
00:01 Phlogi but back to my speed question, any ideas?
00:01 ries Phwhat was the question?
00:01 Phlogi ries: typo3 should be more strict, should complain about every single wrong line of TS or even page config stuff
00:02 Phlogi somehow my server/site got quite slow, what could be the main reason for it? (The backend seems to be fine, but fe got very slow) What should I check?
00:02 void Phlogi: what did you change for last 2 days...
00:03 void if nothing, ask hoster
00:03 ries Phlogi: That's difficult to let typoscript do that... it's not hard to check teh syntax... but it's hard to check for available options
00:04 ries Phlogi: I have had the same once... never could figure out the real reason.... turn of some of the stupidities like tidy (which sucks anyways) and may be xhtml cleaning)
00:04 ries But mostly sounds like something with apache, memory and/or DB
00:06 Phlogi ok thanks for the hints. Maybe I will talk with the hoster. The site could need some cleaning yes. xhtml clean only works on non utf8 sites. That sucks :)
00:10 ries hold you breath... they are packaging TYPO3 4.2beta1a
00:10 Phlogi omg :D I did not yet try out 4.2
00:10 Phlogi when should i be finished?
00:11 Phlogi ries: another main problem of the typo3 project: Extension manuals are not in a wiki format.
00:12 ries I am not sure if that is a problem.. for one thing I don't like wiki much... I woudl rather see a HTML format
00:12 ries so they can be called straight away in the BE
00:12 ries then everybody can use it's own editor...
00:12 ries that's my personal opinion
00:13 nature http://pastebin.com/m79a9d8a1
00:14 Phlogi ries: yes the point is it should be editable! Even better: All extension are in an svn/cvs repo.
00:14 nature im doing something wrong
00:15 Phlogi And many devs have access so they can fix minor issues
00:15 ries Phlogi: not sure if that's a good idea for all edit.. but SVN access yes so it's easy to make patches
00:15 ries Phlogi: I have been thinking about this one day and I have some nice idea
00:15 ries But no time
00:16 Phlogi not for all but, the devs at least
00:16 Phlogi its the same here. But it should happen. All the bad manuals for the old extensions just decrease typo3's quality
00:17 Phlogi furthermore the typo3.org/extensions is quite oldfashioned
00:17 ries problem is that it's to easy to uplaod a extension
00:17 ries so there is a lot of crap in there
00:19 Phlogi hmm thats not a problem actually, but the problem is lack of public feedback. Because otherwise you could easily find out what is crap and what not... no one uses the rating I guess...
00:20 Phlogi typo3.org needs a revision to web2.0 if you want call it like that
00:20 Denyerec agreed
00:24 smeringe bah, it was time to sleep along time ago.. cya around.
00:27 Phlogi Denyerec: why did that not happen yet? I mean typo3 guys are web dev's for sure... they could do it in no time
00:27 Denyerec I think because the people who do "Web 2.0" are not hardcore develpers
00:27 Denyerec in the deep / bloated API sense
00:28 Phlogi I'm not sure if you need to be....
00:28 Phlogi typo3.org needs a brush up thats all
00:28 Denyerec Oh shit
00:28 Denyerec I thought you mean tthe backend
00:28 Phlogi nope I mean the typo3.org page
00:28 Phlogi with its extension list
00:28 Denyerec ahh
00:29 Phlogi do you agree?
00:30 Phlogi I hope they will change something until typo3 4.2 is released
00:30 Denyerec Their mainpage works for me
00:30 Denyerec the design is very IBM
00:30 Phlogi mainpage is ok yes
00:31 Denyerec very corporate, not all touchy-feely like Joomla
00:31 Phlogi but the extension list is bad IMHO, you should be able to comment on extensions... and a better rating system would be nice
00:34 Phlogi this would be a semi solution to the not editable manuals
07:36 just2b morning
09:04 animan hi
09:05 animan having problems wth getting tt_news feed creation, can someone help me please?
09:09 koomi animan: try to be a bit more specific
09:11 animan i am tring to make a rss feed from my news
09:11 animan i got the feed but for some reason it's empty
09:13 animan i pretty much have that same example ts from tt_news manual
09:14 animan i guess i should set it to read my news somehow
09:14 koomi pass it the storage pid via ts
09:14 koomi where you're news are stored
09:16 animan in a sysfolder
09:16 animan sry
09:17 animan how should i pass it?
09:18 koomi check the config section of the docs. can't remeber
09:18 koomi gtg: work.
09:24 animan ok, thanks
09:25 animan however, i can't find it there :/
10:10 xsebi mornin all
10:10 foool hi
10:17 animan ok, i think i got it working, thaks koomi :)
10:17 animan hi foool
10:18 animan and xsebi
10:24 antoiiine hi
10:24 antoiiine i would like some help please
10:24 antoiiine i make on a extension
10:24 teppi|work dont ask to ask just ask
10:25 antoiiine a <img src="" xxx> with $markerArray['###photo75###'] = $this->cObj->cIMAGE($imageConfig['file'],$imageConfig);
10:25 antoiiine i would like to have only the src of the image
10:25 antoiiine how i can get it?
10:25 antoiiine its for a rss usage : <image>###image_rss###</image>
10:26 just2b dont take cIMAGE but IMG_RESSOURCE
10:26 antoiiine Call to undefined method tslib_cObj::IMG_RESSOURCE()
10:26 just2b IMG_RESOURCE
10:26 just2b sry ;)
10:27 just2b and there is just 1 parameter
10:27 just2b so you need to add the file in the conf
10:28 antoiiine ok for the file
10:28 antoiiine thx
10:28 antoiiine <image>typo3temp/pics/4410719b62.jpg</image>
10:28 antoiiine that is realy good :)
10:28 antoiiine another question ;) (next i stop)
10:29 antoiiine to add a absolute path
10:29 antoiiine with the http
10:29 just2b i would just add it hardcoded ^^
10:30 antoiiine oki :)
10:30 antoiiine thx again :)
10:30 just2b wanna do something for me?
10:30 just2b http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgmediaimages.html > click an ad ;)
10:31 animan omg, spam :P
10:31 just2b where is spam
10:31 antoiiine i ever dev a extension to have video/audio on an modalbox
10:31 antoiiine thx ;)
10:32 just2b didnt understand, sry
10:37 animan here, you're sending ad links :P ah, nvm :D
10:38 foool just2b We tried to install mediaimages ,and it installed great. Prob is when we upload a file or get one from filelist it doesn't load. I think it maybe a path prob as you know our install is in a /cms/ dir. Question where can we change the path - looked and couldn't figure it out.
10:39 Phlogi_ just2b: what about albums in your smoothgallery?
10:39 SilenceDK Hey guys.. how do I encapsulate a image file within a div tag in TS? - The ts is here: http://phpfi.com/295089
10:39 just2b puuhh.-. open /rgmediaimages/class.tx_rgmediaimages_fe.php
10:39 SilenceDK Funny enough the printlink is mapped to a div tag.. but it removes the surrounding div even though I've set "Outer" in TemplaVolia..
10:40 just2b add it to the $originalUrl or to the $url
10:40 just2b plogi, when the dev from france is going to develop it further i can try it again
10:42 Phlogi_ just2b: ok looking forward to something I could replace jm_gallery with ^^ :)
10:42 Phlogi_ don't get me wrong jm_gallery is great
10:42 just2b wouldnt do that... rgsmoothgalley is not a good tool for that because e.g. you cant link to a single image and so on
10:46 SilenceDK Bah.. why is a container div removed even when I've in TV mapped it as "Outer" ? :/
10:50 No5251 SilenceDK: because you wanna fill around the div ...
10:57 foool There ar lots of instances of $originalUrl or to the $url, do I have to add it to all of them, and what do I add '/cms/' 'cms/' or 'cms'
10:59 just2b fools just at the beginning
10:59 SilenceDK No5251: Could you perhaps propose a solution then..? - The TS is here: http://phpfi.com/295089
10:59 just2b ah sory,
11:00 just2b you tried a flv or a youtube?
11:00 foool flv & swf
11:00 just2b i guess the swfob is not found, right?
11:00 just2b take a look at firebug
11:01 Phlogi_ anyone used cal and can tell me the reason why my title of an event is not linked in the list view to a detail site? =)
11:02 foool i uploaded the swf to fileadmin and then went to get it, when i saved, it didn't go in. The images box was still empty
11:03 foool same if I uploaded it directly from my computer
11:04 animan i cannot use conditions in brackets, right, but can i use brackets inside a condition?
11:07 just2b is underneath the field the file type flv?
11:08 SilenceDK Animan, u want multiple conditions inside a condition? life if(test = 1 || test = 2) bla bla?
11:10 foool for it to see root/cms what do I need to add?
11:11 foool sorry for my ignorance :(
11:13 animan no, i just want to open plug.wahtever {} inside a condition just to have less typing :P
11:13 SilenceDK Umm.. have any of u ever encountered that Typo3 makes a extra body tag for some weird reason?
11:13 just2b foool search for new SWFObject("'.t3lib_div::getIndpEnv('TYPO3_SITE_URL').
11:13 just2b and add the path before
11:13 SilenceDK animan: I think u can.. not sure though
11:14 SilenceDK Ahh.. to be best friends with Kasper would be a bliss :p
11:14 animan ok, thanks :) its not that vital anyways :)
11:18 SilenceDK Umm.. have any of u ever encountered that Typo3 makes a extra body tag for some weird reason? <- Anyone ?
11:18 Phlogi_ SilenceDK: I don't think that typo3 does that. Maybe your fault somewhere? =)
11:19 just2b i think typo3 does that with misconfiguration
11:19 Phlogi_ String / PEAR Date format ? Where is the doc for this? I want the long month name.
11:20 SilenceDK just2b: I've just the same config as I do on other pages.. and haven't encountered it before :s
11:20 just2b maybe you are wrong? ;)
11:20 SilenceDK just2b: Perhaps :P - Any ideas on what it could be? Wrong TS?
11:20 just2b mhm
11:21 just2b especially in the TEMPLATE section...
11:21 just2b or in the template
11:21 just2b wrong position of workOnSubpart ?
11:21 just2b in the html template
11:22 SilenceDK Nope.. use TV
11:22 just2b ;)
11:22 Phlogi_ whatever strange format for date/month thing is used there I found it out
11:22 SilenceDK http://phpfi.com/295091 <- My TS
11:22 SilenceDK That's the complete thingy..
11:22 SilenceDK Besides the menu :)
11:24 SilenceDK just2b: And while ur at it :P - Should I be able to get a div around a image by using "wrap = <div>|</div>" ?
11:24 SilenceDK Line 80 to be exact
11:24 just2b doesnt work?
11:24 just2b try a stdWrap.wrap =
11:25 SilenceDK Stdwrap worked :) Nice
11:26 SilenceDK http://77.247.64.13/index.php?id=cetest_firstpage0 <- That's the page.. I just don't get the validations fuckups.. :S
11:26 SilenceDK If I go straight to the template file and validate it(The static one) - It's perfect.. :s
11:27 just2b there is something wrong wit the mapping i guess but I am not using tv
11:29 SilenceDK just2b: Thx.. u were right :) - The TV had to be exclude.. not outer
11:30 just2b so go to my website and click some google ads ;)
11:31 SilenceDK lol, sure - What's the website? :p
11:31 just2b e.g. http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/rgmediaimages/videos-von-youtube.html
11:32 SilenceDK Nice site.. :)
11:33 just2b thx
11:33 just2b also nice ext ;)
11:37 xsebi hehe
11:37 xsebi ever thought about justify text ?
11:38 xsebi might come good there
11:56 just2b yeah could be
11:57 just2b you are right ;)
12:08 whitenite hi
12:08 just2b xsebi, i changed it ;)
12:08 whitenite are there anyone?
12:13 SilenceDK We are
12:14 whitenite hi
12:14 SilenceDK Hello
12:15 whitenite what is this chat?
12:15 foool just2b I did that, is it correct. something happened, now if I load the swf into the image/media box it DOES save it there but it doesn't show in the FE - this is what I did
12:15 foool var so = new FObject("'.t3lib_div::getIndpEnv('TYPO3_SITE_URL').t3lib_extMgm::siteRelpath('cms/rgmediaimages').'/res/mediaplayer.swf","mpl","'.$width2[1].'","'.$height2[1].'","8");
12:15 SilenceDK Guys, is it possible to edit HTML via Typoscript? - Like I want <div class="Show"> if on the frontpage and <div class="Hide"> if on any other page ?
12:16 SilenceDK Using TemplaVolia btw..
12:16 just2b foool, i would need to debug this myself
12:17 foool ok hang on
12:17 SilenceDK just2b or foool: Any of u got a recommendation in regards to my question above? Push me in the right direction ;)
12:20 Phlogi_ SilenceDK: yes why not?
12:20 Phlogi_ HTML is your content or what?
12:22 SilenceDK Phlogi: Well.. basically I've got a picture to show
12:23 SilenceDK The picture is to be shown on the front page only
12:23 SilenceDK So I was going to somehow use typoscript to edit the class of the div layer which contains the photo
12:23 SilenceDK The div layer is hardcoded into the template
12:24 SilenceDK Use a condition - If id = 0 -> html show layer - Else -> html hide layer
12:24 SilenceDK Phlogi: I'm just confused about how to edit the class of the div layer.. it's got a id="frontPagePicture"
12:25 xsebi oh nice i see just2b
12:30 foool funny it works in the site - doesn't in the typo3 on my computer, sorry just2be must be smething in my local installation
12:30 just2b ^^
12:47 foool found the prob - windows in IE7 is now telling me - can't open file - operation aborted
12:47 foool And so on the net i found http://weblogs.asp.net/infinitiesloop/archive/2006/11/02/Dealing-with-IE-_2600_quot_3B00_Operation-Aborted_2600_quot_3B002E00_-Or_2C00_-how-to-Crash-IE.aspx
12:47 foool i tried installing flash again - no luck
12:48 just2b you are using mootools?
12:51 foool should it be?
12:51 just2b no, just asking
12:51 just2b or any other ajax lib
12:51 foool i will look
12:53 foool ah! disabled ajax in mootools and it works
12:54 foool thank you - how the f--k do you guys know these things
12:54 foool thanks just2b
12:56 just2b foool... it is called a trojan, i am watching what you do
12:56 just2b :D
12:59 just2b foool?
13:00 foool trying to figure out problem
13:00 Phlogi_ SilenceDK: why don't you include that image as normal CE?
13:00 just2b i fixed it alreadsy
13:00 just2b see my pm?
13:01 fred^^ Helloes
13:01 fred^^ When I try to map my template in TV, it inserts an </body> in the Mapping window that is not in the source
13:02 fred^^ Thats wierd, and stops me from mapping my footer
13:02 fred^^ Also, i added an headerData snippet to my tstemplate, and it seems to have no effect
13:10 m0oman so i'm not the only one having a hard time getting typo3 and javascript to play together nicely in ie7. >.<
13:10 just2b i got never problem with that
13:10 fred^^ What problem do you have, m0oman
13:15 m0oman code simply not working, mostly along with the "operation aborted" error.
13:16 m0oman i got it to work with copying all the functions i needed from js files right to the places where i'd actually use them.
13:16 m0oman quite some additional lines of source code the sites are outputting now, but at least it works.
13:19 f3karsten need some excitement: check out flow3.typo3.org
13:26 Phlogi_ f3karsten: great!
13:45 foool m0oman I solve the prob by disabling the ajax in mootools 'operation aborted'
13:55 m0oman i'm not using mootools. :)
13:55 just2b ?
13:55 just2b was that to me?
13:55 m0oman no. was answering foool.
13:55 just2b ok
13:57 foool rated you just2b
13:58 foool I put into styles.css z-index:200100;
14:28 greis hello
14:31 foool hi
14:33 greis does anyone know where i can fade backend navigation points in and out?
22:33 Phlogi anyone here? I try to use the cal extension which can create an ics file of my calendar. It ouputs it correctly but inside my normal page so of course its not a valid file. How can I easily get rid of that? I think I didn't get the thing with the typnum...
22:34 Phlogi I mean do I really need to fiddle arround with the page object and its config?
22:41 void Phlogi: don't understand you fully..
22:41 void Phlogi: ics output have a different typeNum, yes
23:27 Phlogi void: yes so I put that just in setup?
23:28 Phlogi I just put this in my setup of the page which should ouput the ics: http://pastebin.ca/896732
23:28 void Phlogi: cal itself provide such config
23:29 Phlogi yes ok.... but I get this error then: I access the page like this: http://foobar.ch/jw/index.php?id=280&type=150 correct?
23:29 void correct. and which error do you get?
23:31 Phlogi sec
23:32 Phlogi void: thats the file http://pastebin.ca/896733
23:33 Phlogi it returns as index.php strange
23:34 void do you have last svn version of cal?
23:35 Phlogi void: nope... and if I just use the TS from the manual I get my whole site in the ics file.... the calendar data is there correctly but my site too....
23:36 void Phlogi: try that: http://pastebin.ca/896741
23:37 Phlogi void: still my complete site around the data
23:38 Phlogi I access with http://foobar.ch/jw/index.php?id=280&type=150 btw
23:38 Phlogi I don't need to insert the plugin in that page correct?
23:38 void so, &type=150 <-- whole site around the data, &type=0 <-- just site
23:38 void right?
23:41 Phlogi yes, void, the page must not be special somehow? Extension template is fine there, just with the setup?
23:42 void yeah, that should work..
23:42 void is such config
23:42 Phlogi omg now it works! I recreated the template and I'm using your ts setup, thanks a lot man!
23:42 void np :)

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