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00:51 tokam_one hi i need help
00:52 tokam_one i planed a typo3 reinstall, because of problems so i uninstalled it, but did not save the localconf.php
00:53 tokam_one now i am in the install tool, have i to do all again, is everything lost of the typo3 configs, or can i load them from the datebase?
00:53 Denyerec Well
00:53 Denyerec you'll have lost the localconf
00:53 Denyerec which stores info on which extensions are loaded, your DB password and a few other things.
00:54 Denyerec I cannot see it being much of a problem just to follow the installation again, and point it to the correct database
00:59 tokam_one ok
01:02 tokam_one ok, i am back into my typo3 4.1.3
01:11 tokam_one i am beginner
01:12 tokam_one in my tutorial they click on the new page than they go into the template menu
01:12 tokam_one they find there the option to set up an template or to write one, these option i do not see here, i look at a tutorial video but perhaps it is from an old version
01:13 tokam_one can you help me perhaps what could i have done wrong
01:13 tokam_one where to setup templates for a page in version 4.1.3
01:14 ironm hi tokam_one
01:14 tokam_one hi
01:15 ironm tokam_one: you need html-templates .. somewhere in fileadmin/template/main e.g.
01:16 ironm are you running TemplaVoila?
01:17 tokam_one i will try it again
01:17 tokam_one if it will not work i will make screens of what i have and what i need
01:18 tokam_one what is templavoil
01:18 tokam_one a
01:18 tokam_one an ide?
01:18 ironm there is a difference ... when creating templates for typo3 with or without TV
01:18 ironm it is an extension tokam_one
01:19 tokam_one what is tv? television?
01:19 tokam_one ahhh templavoila
01:19 tokam_one no i do not have
01:19 tokam_one is it an nice ide?
01:19 ironm no .. short form of TemplaVila ..
01:19 ironm Voila ...
01:19 tokam_one i am looking for an ide for typoscript like i have eclipse for java
01:19 ironm it is more comlicated .. but much better tokam_one
01:20 ironm you have a similar one after setting typo3
01:20 ironm complicated ...
01:23 tokam_one why is it better
01:23 tokam_one is it with an autocomplete function like dreamviewer
01:24 tokam_one i am looking for a nice ide on linux
01:28 ironm no tokam_one .. it is more than hard core
01:28 tokam_one ok
01:28 ironm typo3 is the best one you can get on Linux tokam_one
01:28 tokam_one and why better
01:28 tokam_one can you set up more?
01:28 ironm but the leraning curve is a very long one
01:28 tokam_one typo3 inst an ide !!! ? !!!
01:29 ironm typo3 is a CMS with GUI
01:29 ironm there are some extensions .. like shops, news, boards, chats, tax-software or whatever you like
01:30 ironm tokam_one: CMS = Content Management System ;-)
01:32 tokam_one i made 2 screens
01:32 tokam_one screen 1 is what i have screen 2 my aim
01:33 tokam_one marburg.homeftp.org/typo_screen1.png
01:33 tokam_one marburg.homeftp.org/typo_screen2.png
01:33 tokam_one yes ironm i know what a cms is
01:33 tokam_one do you know what an ide is?
01:34 ironm what is you definition of IDE tokam_one?
01:34 tokam_one Integrated Development Environment
01:34 ironm right ...
01:35 ironm TYPO3 is like IDE for Web-Design tokam_one
01:35 tokam_one it is a programm that helps you writing the code, with for example syntaxhighlight mariking mistakes red and so on
01:35 tokam_one if i typo in eclipse main and press than ctrl and space
01:35 ironm I see
01:36 tokam_one eclipse creates the java "public static void main (String[] args){ } for me
01:36 ironm yes tokam_one
01:36 tokam_one what do you see
01:36 tokam_one whats my typo3 problem?
01:36 ironm that means I can follow what you are speaking about tokam_one ;-)
01:37 tokam_one ok
01:37 ironm tell me what your typo3 problem is
01:37 tokam_one did you see the screens?
01:37 ironm maybe I can help you tokam_one
01:37 tokam_one look above at 01:40:56
01:38 ironm how ? ... I don't have the URLs tokam_one
01:39 ironm wait a second .
01:39 tokam_one http://marburg.homeftp.org/typo_screen2.png
01:39 tokam_one and http://marburg.homeftp.org/typo_screen1.png
01:39 tokam_one screen 1 is my backend and screen2 is what they show in my tutorial
01:40 ironm take only create new on .. without any name in the window
01:40 ironm one ...
01:41 ironm the versions of software are different ... probably there is another menu
01:41 ironm I'm using typo3 4.1.5 with TemplaVoila 1.3.3
01:42 tokam_one what do you mean with "take only create new on .. without any name in the window "
01:43 ironm manual (screen2.png) bases on the old version of the software . I mean 3.7 or so ...
01:43 ironm create new template ..
01:43 ironm you have to go threw few steps
01:45 tokam_one what to do now
01:46 ironm templates -> root -> create new template
01:47 tokam_one a static template?
01:47 tokam_one what do you mean with root?
01:48 tokam_one the content menü of the pages root?
01:48 ironm root of your site
01:48 tokam_one YES
01:48 tokam_one where i create pages too?
01:48 tokam_one i can select there new static template
01:48 ironm not quite ...
01:48 ironm don't select any !!!!
01:49 ironm you need to create one !
01:50 ironm there is a difference .. if you poiting on the icon or the text near the icon tokam_one
01:50 ironm you have to play .. it is not so obvious
01:53 tokam_one mhh
01:53 tokam_one i do not find where to create or to setup a template for my 1st testpage
01:54 ironm try to follow the manual modern templates or so ....
01:57 ironm I was able to follow .. so far ;-)
01:57 tokam_one mhh
01:58 tokam_one where to find it
01:58 tokam_one i need a hello world tutorial
01:58 tokam_one or do you want to help me?
02:00 tokam_one did it became more complicated in the new version or what?
02:00 ironm yes .. it is different in new versions ..
02:01 tokam_one different must not be more complicated
02:01 ironm you few weeks to learn typo3 .. the best idea would be to read a book
02:01 tokam_one please tell me where i find what i search
02:01 ironm you need ...
02:01 tokam_one i have one
02:04 ironm can you confirm my offer sending you a .png picture how to set new template tokam_one?
02:04 tokam_one :)
02:04 tokam_one yes, it would be nice
02:05 tokam_one ahh german too
02:05 ironm fine .. this was ther first step .. however I had to take another page to
02:05 ironm yes .. I'm speaking german too *g*
02:06 ironm fine .. this was ther first step .. however I had to take another page for demonstration purposes
02:06 tokam_one damn, you have the same screen there, as they have in the tutorial
02:06 tokam_one on screen 2 of mine
02:06 tokam_one but i do not see that
02:06 tokam_one qry please i can give you a logib
02:06 tokam_one login
02:07 ironm well .. I have version 4.1.5 of the software . however I'm using it with TV .. IT is a bit DIFFERENT ..
02:07 ironm go ahead .. in a private box
02:08 ironm I need you URL .. where the apache with typo3 is running ...
02:08 tokam_one join #marburg
02:08 ironm your ...
02:08 tokam_one i do see your private box
03:30 bobarmstrong Can't find an active forum elsewhere . Just trying to get started . Fantastico did not load Dummy . Just want to get some template working .
03:42 eddie hi..... i have one problem with typo3.... one stupid problem
03:42 eddie can any help me?
03:43 eddie my problem is this: i installed typo3, database, all things. created a user to be administrator (admin/password) and other user too
03:43 eddie but, i dont get connect in typo3
03:44 eddie in log I have this error "Login-attempt from" username "password not accepted"
03:44 eddie i dont have any idea
03:45 lighty try creating another user using the Install tool
03:45 eddie i created 3 users using install tool
03:45 eddie but dont have any sucess
03:46 eddie in db, in be_users exist a field called password
03:46 eddie i change lowers letters by uppers too
03:46 eddie and dont have any sucess
03:46 tokam_one i have a question, is it required to enter the users password or the md5 of the password in the install tool?
03:46 eddie yes
03:46 eddie md5
03:46 tokam_one perhaps eddies problem can have something to do with it
03:47 eddie and can I make to fix this?
03:47 tokam_one eddie if you enter a password which does not fit to the login of the installtool you get its md5
03:47 eddie correct
03:47 eddie and the app change in localconf.php
03:48 tokam_one perhaps you can change now the entry of the users password in your datebase with phpmyadmin, but i am noob and i do not know where to do it
03:48 tokam_one aks a typo3 pro :)
03:48 eddie any other idea?
03:50 eddie i changed the permissions too.....
03:50 eddie i dont understand because the app create the tables in db, create the user in table, and insert the records in sys_log
03:50 eddie but i dont access with be with my user/password
03:51 eddie detail: my machine is win2003, with IIS and PHP and MYSQ
03:51 eddie detail: my machine is win2003, with IIS and PHP and MYSQL
03:52 eddie because i installed in a Linux *(slackware) + apache + php
03:52 eddie and in this machin (linux) i have sucess.... its very easy
03:53 eddie any other idea,please?
03:54 eddie a... in sys_log, i receive this error code: 3 "Login-attempt from %s (%s), username '%s', password not accepted!"
04:22 tokam_one i dont know
04:22 tokam_one sorry
04:22 tokam_one i am using gentoo
04:22 tokam_one :)
06:41 Naveed hello all
06:41 Naveed does anybody have used Real URL extension?
06:42 Naveed i m having some prblems using it!
06:44 Naveed anybody here??
06:47 Naveed hi valdo
06:48 Valdo hi Naveed
06:48 Naveed valdo, have you worked on RealURL extension?
06:50 Valdo I know that extension, and I have to learn it
06:50 Valdo but never used it
06:50 Naveed :(
06:50 Naveed actually i m having prblems in using it
06:50 Naveed it successfully encodes the url
06:51 Naveed but i access that sef url it wont decode
06:51 Naveed and typo3 generates page not found error
07:00 d|g hi all
07:13 tomyN anyone still up, or up again?
07:21 solshark Hello all
08:01 tomyN Hi
08:02 tomyN Could anyone give me a hint how I could hide 2nd and 3rd level in Navigation Menus?
08:03 tomyN I was playing around with this: ttp://www.quirksmode.org/js/display.html but it doesn't work
08:03 tomyN Basically, I would love to have a navigation that behaves like the page tree in Typo3
08:05 lighty expAll = 0
08:05 tomyN Where would this go?
08:06 lighty in the first level
08:06 tomyN just as an extra line in :NO {
08:06 tomyN allWrap = <dt>|</dt>
08:06 tomyN ATagParams = class="level1-no"
08:06 lighty ie: temp.mymenu.1 { expAll = 0 }
08:06 tomyN ATagTitle.field = description // title
08:06 tomyN }
08:06 tomyN looking ....
08:07 lighty paste your whole menu somewhere
08:07 tomyN I am in setup menu links ...
08:07 tomyN hold on ...
08:07 tomyN http://pastebin.com/m4cd0747b
08:10 lighty expAll = 1
08:10 lighty after the 1 {
08:10 lighty line 10
08:10 lighty set it to 0
08:10 lighty the second and third level should be hidden by default
08:11 tomyN lemme see ..
08:12 tomyN omg, it's that easy?? I was terrorising myself for hours with some crappy javascript!!
08:12 tomyN fukc, banging my head on my desktop :x
08:12 tomyN THANK YOU SOO MUCH!!!!
08:13 lighty ;)
08:13 tomyN my hero!!!
08:13 lighty if you want something cooler
08:13 lighty use mootools accordion menu
08:13 tomyN ??
08:13 lighty take a look at beetob.com for example
08:13 lighty click on References
08:13 lighty and see how it unfolds
08:14 tomyN ok, how could I make a comment in TS just with # ?
08:14 lighty yep, # is for commenting
08:17 tomyN oh oh oh, I want this!!
08:17 lighty kinda easy
08:17 lighty you'll use a TMENU, like your, you will just have to change the classes of the div's
08:18 lighty and put a js in your template, at the bottom
08:18 tomyN ok, sounds like I can handle this
08:18 tomyN where could I find the js ?
08:18 lighty mootools.net
08:19 lighty select Acordion in the plugins
08:19 lighty at the bottom
08:19 lighty choose a compression type then download it.. add it to the header (with page.headerData)
08:19 lighty and voila
08:20 tomyN lemme see if I can do this d:)
08:20 lighty then you'll have to add something like what's between <!-- Fin conteneur --> et <!-- Start of StatCounter Code --> at the end of your template
08:20 lighty feel free to ask if you need help
08:20 tomyN you'll be online for a while?
08:21 lighty dunno, almost 7:29 AM here, didn't sleep for the night (migrating a server)
08:21 lighty so as soon as I finish it, i'll take some rest
08:21 lighty (~ 2 hours.. if i'm really not lucky)
08:21 tomyN k, I'll need to go to sleep soon, it's 1:29 here ...
08:22 lighty see, you'r lucky, u'll have an almost full night of sleep lol
08:26 tomyN k, got the script, and squeezed it into the coding
08:26 lighty have fun :)
08:27 tomyN not done yet - I have to change classes of the div's ... in TS or CSS ?
08:27 lighty TS
08:27 lighty you css remains
08:27 lighty wait, i'll show you a TS example
08:27 tomyN k
08:28 tomyN I was trying to find thoses classes in the js file. I use Smultron as editor, see only gibberish
08:29 lighty http://lighty.pastebin.com/m4c587baa
08:30 lighty if you're asking yourself why is the ACTIFSUB part, it's for unfolding the menu in the right position when the page reload
08:31 tomyN ohoh, that's completely different from my TS. Is this a question of copy and replace?
08:32 lighty not as different, hold on a second please
08:32 tomyN sure
08:34 lighty ah, you're using dd & dt
08:34 tomyN yup
08:34 tomyN not really my idea, I used a template.
08:35 lighty the only thing that bother me
08:35 lighty is having a third level
08:35 lighty honestly, I don't know how to deal with it for mootools
08:36 tomyN hhm, so we skip this part then, I guess
08:36 lighty yeap, sorry I have time to explain the actual stuff, but for looking how to add a third section, no time :/
08:37 tomyN what do I need a 3rd section for?
08:37 lighty you have 3 levels or am i wrong ?
08:37 tomyN I mean, do I have this already
08:37 tomyN ?
08:37 lighty ah wait no, you just have 2
08:37 tomyN http://tghd.dyndns.org/quetzal/index.php?id=182
08:37 lighty i'm starting to get blind
08:38 tomyN The headers are level 1, the next level is 2
08:38 lighty yep
08:38 tomyN uff uff
08:38 lighty in this case, wait a sec, I'll try to change your TS
08:38 tomyN yeeepppe, that would be so damned awesome
08:44 lighty http://pastebin.com/m50157c47
08:44 tomyN trying, ..., thanks!!!
08:45 lighty and here's the js to include in the template's bottom
08:45 lighty http://lighty.pastebin.com/m36889749
08:45 lighty (between line 2 an 7, other stuff isn't important)
08:46 Naveed hi all
08:46 Naveed does anybody worked on RealURL extension?
08:46 tomyN lighty: hmm, I already place a link to the js file, that wouldn't work?
08:47 tomyN k, now it looks like this: http://tghd.dyndns.org/quetzal/index.php?id=181
08:48 tomyN without your js included as you said
08:48 lighty you have also to put the js
08:48 lighty at the end
08:48 tomyN I guess I have missed this part.
08:48 lighty of the template (just modify the html template.. add the script before </body>)
08:49 Naveed i am having some problems workin with RealURL extension
08:49 lighty Naveed so we do
08:49 Naveed when i click on some link http://www.abc.com/impressum
08:49 Naveed Reason: "general-template/impressum/" could not be found, closest page matching is
08:49 Naveed typo3 throws this error!
08:50 Naveed sorry the url is http://www.abc.com/general-template/impressum
08:50 tomyN lighty: http://tghd.dyndns.org/quetzal/index.php?id=181
08:51 lighty tomyN clear the cache..
08:51 tomyN I placed the javascript but it doesn't show in the source code
08:51 lighty yeap, clear the cache
08:53 tomyN what is FE cache? Shall I clear that one too?
08:53 lighty FE is for front end, so yes
08:53 lighty but I don't think it'll solve the problem
08:53 lighty where did you put the js exactly ?
08:53 lighty can you past the last part of your html template ?
08:54 Administrateur slt
08:54 lighty Administrateur topic => English Only
08:55 Administrateur hello
08:55 lighty ellow
08:55 lighty tomyN ? so ?
08:55 tomyN http://pastebin.com/m6284ae4c
08:56 lighty not cool tomyN
08:56 lighty remove <!-- ###DOKUMENT### --> from line 8
08:56 tomyN :-(
08:56 lighty and put it somewhere like 28 or 29
08:56 lighty (after the </script>)
08:56 tomyN k
08:57 lighty clear the cache then, and retry, maybe with some chance.. it'll work the first try :p
08:58 tomyN lighty: http://pastebin.com/m205f32cb still doesn
08:58 tomyN t work
08:58 lighty lemme see
09:00 lighty remove from line 19 to 26 (included)
09:00 lighty u'll get something like:
09:00 lighty var accordion = new Fx.Accordion('li.atStart', 'ul.atStart', { show: activeNode });
09:00 lighty </script>
09:01 tomyN lemme see
09:03 tomyN nope
09:03 lighty wait
09:03 lighty I think I missed something
09:06 lighty in the template... put <div id="accordion"><ul id="menu"> before the menu start tag
09:06 lighty and </ul></div> after the menu end tag
09:06 tomyN ok, that make sense even for me
09:08 lighty :)
09:09 tomyN like this? :: http://pastebin.com/m539c79b
09:09 tomyN line 91
09:09 lighty wait
09:09 lighty no..
09:10 lighty <div id="accordion" class="nav3-grid"><ul id="menu">
09:10 lighty <!-- ###MENU_LINKS### --> Menu Vertical<!-- ###MENU_LINKS### -->
09:10 lighty </ul></div>
09:10 lighty should suffice
09:10 lighty the 92 & 96 lines must be deleted
09:12 tomyN hold on ...
09:14 tomyN hmm looks different now, but no folding
09:15 tomyN http://tghd.dyndns.org/quetzal/index.php?id=182
09:15 lighty hold on, the js is ok, must be the TS
09:16 tomyN http://pastebin.com/m648c62f0 line 89
09:20 lighty argh
09:20 lighty found it I think
09:21 tomyN ok
09:21 tomyN I like this argh expression, know how it feels
09:22 lighty lol
09:23 tomyN what is causing the indent?
09:25 lighty the way T3 generates
09:25 lighty I was cleaning it up
09:25 lighty to see the difference
09:25 lighty and it's the same
09:25 lighty i'm not sure but..
09:25 lighty mind if you try with my js ?
09:26 lighty put this one instead of your
09:26 lighty s
09:26 tomyN no, hey, as long if it works
09:26 tomyN which one?
09:26 lighty you don't receive notices ?
09:27 tomyN notices? I use Colloguy on OSX
09:27 tomyN dunno, watcha mean?
09:27 lighty no-one is perfect
09:27 lighty (btw, Snak rules)
09:27 tomyN I had x-Chat before, drove me nuts!!
09:28 lighty xchat aqua rules too
09:28 tomyN mmpf
09:29 tomyN I should be able to receive a file
09:29 lighty http://www.lighty.ma/mootools.js
09:29 lighty put this one instead of yours, should work
09:30 lighty (i noticed that mine is longer than yours, maybe I select too much libraries, or you didn't select enough)
09:33 tomyN it does work, way cooool
09:33 tomyN http://tghd.dyndns.org/quetzal/index.php?id=181
09:33 tomyN now, how can I change the idents?
09:33 sessaid If I have a record that is marked as deleted, how can I restore it? It is a DS in a system folder. I see it in the database but I thought that I should be able to recover it using the BE. Thanks.
09:33 tomyN Level 2 should not be bold
09:34 lighty wait
09:35 lighty sessaid use macmade's plugin
09:35 lighty it saved my life some months ago
09:35 lighty http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/content_uneraser/0.2.0/
09:35 lighty this one
09:35 sessaid lighty: I'll look for that plugin. So the base Typo3 doesn't have that capability?
09:36 sessaid lighty: thanks for the link
09:36 lighty base typo3 doesn't have taht cap yeah :/
09:36 lighty tomyN you just have to play with the css now
09:36 tomyN ok, will figure it out!!!
09:36 lighty as the most important is done, i'm not really in the design part, so well :)
09:36 tomyN THANKS A 1000000000
09:37 lighty you're welcome :)
09:37 tomyN unbelievable
09:37 tomyN make me feel stupid, but hey, I am in the design department!!!
09:37 lighty so this is your excuse for not yet riding on typo3? :p
09:37 tomyN yes, and it better works ;-)
09:38 lighty :p
09:38 tomyN I have 2--3 weeks experience so far, lol
09:39 lighty well, u'll spend more nights on it
09:39 lighty gotta smoke, brb
09:39 tomyN I know, but it's a good thing.
09:42 No5251 hi
09:43 lighty back
09:43 lighty hi No5251
09:46 tomyN lighty: it works, but, when I click on an item on the second level, it loads the pages and the navigation block drives back into the default layout
09:47 lighty cache
09:48 lighty the both FE and typo3conf cache
09:48 lighty if after that it's still the same, did you put a template on EACH PAGE?
09:48 lighty (if yes, I have retractable batons to stab you)
09:49 lighty clear cache, we'll see what we'll get
09:49 tomyN no, just one template for the whole site
09:50 lighty then it's probably cache
09:50 lighty got to the template module
09:50 tomyN http://tghd.dyndns.org/quetzal/index.php?id=247
09:50 tomyN in Safari - trying Firefox now ...
09:50 lighty on firefox, the layout is ok
09:51 Layna Hello :). I feel silly asking this, but.... how can I set a link to a PDF-File? When I use the "file"-tab the lonk-window of the RTE offers, the window the page is in just closes without further comment...
09:51 lighty although it doesn't open back, we'll see why
09:51 tomyN nope, it closes like a freak out oyster after I hit a button
09:52 tomyN meaning link
09:52 lighty huh wait ! it's normal that it doesn't open in the active page... <li id="level1-no toggler" class="toggler atStart"
09:52 lighty must be <li id="toggler" class="toggler atStart level1-no"
09:52 lighty paste your TS
09:53 lighty uh sorry
09:53 lighty must be <li id="toggler" class="atStart level1-no"
09:53 tomyN http://pastebin.com/m2998ef93
09:54 lighty http://pastebin.com/d74d6c0eb
09:54 lighty try with this one
09:54 lighty (don't forget to clear the cache)
09:55 lighty Layna File-tab, when you select a file, the popup is closed
09:55 lighty but the content in the RTE is updated
09:56 tomyN lighty: that works!! Thanks again!!
09:56 lighty tomyN ;)
09:56 tomyN guru
09:56 lighty must be kidding, i'm a total t3 newbie ^^
09:56 tomyN yeah right
09:57 tomyN and now I feel like I have the IQ of a Tomatp
09:57 tomyN can't even spell it
09:57 lighty ahaha
09:57 tomyN You in Europe?
09:58 lighty nope, north africa
09:58 lighty morocco
09:58 tomyN cool
09:58 lighty (and it's sunny, yeah :D)
09:58 tomyN Next time when I am in Gibraltar, I'll wave with a flag. I am quite often there
09:59 lighty cool
09:59 Layna lighy: the link is set correcly, I think.. but when I am on the page, the PDF doesnÄt open, and the page closes
10:00 m0oman moo.
10:00 lighty Layna can be accessed from anywhere ? give the link to see
10:00 tomyN need to crash in my pillow. THANKS AGAIN!!!
10:00 lighty meh m0oman
10:00 lighty have a good night tomyN
10:01 tomyN you have a great day and a wonderful catnap
10:01 Layna http://comfitty.de/typo3/remix/index.php?id=11 if you click on the thid image, you'll (hopedfully) see twhat I mean
10:01 FloLeBlanc hi all
10:01 lighty hi FloLeBlanc
10:02 lighty Layna it opens..
10:02 FloLeBlanc can someone help me with some questions about the crawler extension and the corresponding cronjob please?
10:02 lighty Mittagsgerichte
10:02 lighty (Montag – Freitag 11.30 – 15.00 Uhr)
10:02 No5251 can anybody tell me whats wrong with these 3 lines: http://phpfi.com/288562
10:02 Layna *blinks* I guess that's good... now.. why doesnät it open for me? Well,t hanks a lot :)
10:02 lighty maybe your adobe pdf reader install is broken ?
10:03 Layna I wouldnÄt think so, it worked like a charm till 10 minutes ago ;)
10:04 Layna well, I ask some people around here to check, cya all :)
10:04 lighty Layna if you have an ftp access and you can put an htaccess file
10:04 lighty add an "AddType application/force-download .pdf" to an .htaccess
10:04 lighty well, OK
10:07 FloLeBlanc I always wonder if irc is forbidden for some ppl at work
10:07 FloLeBlanc they come in shoot the question hear an answer - vanish as fast as they can :)
10:08 lighty who knows..
10:08 FloLeBlanc anyone who is using the crawler ext for my question before I vanish? *G*
10:09 lighty crawler took me crazy for weeks
10:09 lighty (and I hadn't been successful to make it working)
10:09 FloLeBlanc did you setup a cron?
10:09 FloLeBlanc oh
10:09 lighty so well, I'll pass
10:10 FloLeBlanc ok it works fine for me as it seems the problem though is that it "kills" the server according to my admin when I run it every minute as told in the manual :)
10:10 lighty running crawler every minute is insane
10:10 lighty I set it to every hour
10:11 lighty and it's better to set it to 12
10:11 FloLeBlanc well the crawler only crawl a couple of sites per proc afaik
10:11 FloLeBlanc "This will run the script every minute. Before you add it as a cron-job please check it from the command line that it executes correctly" => from the extension manual
10:12 lighty every minute, you should have a strong dedicated server for this ^^
10:13 FloLeBlanc well in the shell it executes in 4 seconds, and I don't have a clue what the running time actually IS because it is a remote server, the manual states every minute.. how should I know?
10:13 lighty top
10:13 lighty in the shell, watch the CPU and memory use
10:14 lighty if run by a normal user, it gives you these informations: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
10:15 lighty should tell you if something is really wrong with the cron set to 1 minute
10:16 FloLeBlanc how can I check the cpu and memuse in the shell?
10:16 lighty "top"
10:16 lighty just type it in the shell, you'll see your current processes
10:16 FloLeBlanc oh didn't get that sorry thank you
10:16 lighty and what they take
10:18 Layna hello?
10:18 lighty Layna yeah ?
10:18 Layna Good.. sorry, this thing was giving em straneg emssages :)
10:19 Layna The RTE created this when I wanted to put a link over the image:
10:19 Layna <a class="internal-link" href="?id=12" onclick="window.close();">
10:19 Layna Where did it take the OnClick from???
10:19 lighty god only knows
10:20 Layna *tries to ask god, but, as usual, he refuses to answer*
10:22 lighty Layna in your template, you don't have anything like linkWrap window.close ?
10:22 Layna Well, for some strange reason removing the link and settign it again has the rigth result... T3 is strange
10:23 lighty err, your use of T3 is strange
10:23 Layna And nope, I donÄt uase JS as long as I can possibly avoid it ;)
10:23 Layna I just put a link on an image, and T3 invented a window-closing JS... at least, it didnät do so a second time ;)
10:25 Layna Well, as the JS is gone, so am I :)
10:25 lighty are you sure you didn't take drugs?
10:25 lighty see ya
10:26 typochur Is there a way to control content elements outside my plugin? I write a plugin which is included as ###content_center### but I want to control the content of ###content_right### as well
10:30 FloLeBlanc lighty: thank you checked it... never got more than 8% cpu usage and 1,6 % memory use and that only for 4 seconds, perhaps it goes nuts when indexing a specific page oder pdf hmm
10:31 lighty maybe
10:32 FloLeBlanc command for "every 12 hours" would be * * */2 * * correct?
10:32 FloLeBlanc hmm
10:32 FloLeBlanc or is this.. *scratches his head* :)
10:34 lighty heu non
10:35 lighty it's twice a month
10:35 FloLeBlanc ah yes saw it.. I always saw this as a divison thx
10:35 lighty (midday, midnight)
10:35 FloLeBlanc so its */12
10:35 FloLeBlanc ah ok hmm
10:35 FloLeBlanc thank you
10:36 lighty (but double check it, i'm not sure)
10:36 lighty I always get confused for such stuff ^^
10:36 FloLeBlanc it's */12 afai checked on google
10:36 FloLeBlanc I'm not able to input 0,12 :)
10:37 FloLeBlanc at least not in confixx hehe
10:37 lighty ah ok
10:38 FloLeBlanc sorry was a typo... 0,12 is not taken, 0, 12 is
10:41 lighty gonna look for something to eat, brb
10:42 FloLeBlanc hi uschi
10:51 lighty back
11:44 Franzen Hi all! I hope some one might have a solution to my problem.. i have a quite big T3 site that works fine on one off my webserver. Now we are going to move this site to a new one and here i have some problems. On the other server i can login to Typo3 BE and etc, but if i try to update some content or clear some cache etc, nothing happens, just show´s me a blank page? Any ideas, have tried everyting. What works
11:49 teppi|work Franzen, you have logged in in install tool and checked wheter there are any problems ?
11:49 teppi|work this should be the first task i think
11:50 lighty have a look at memory_limit
11:50 lighty in your php.ini
11:51 lighty got the same issue some hour ago
11:52 Naveed hello
11:53 Franzen teppi, yeah and when i check the basic info, it says everything is ok, cmd permissions and all
11:53 Franzen lighty yepp have checked the .php ini 100 times now :) and its almost an exact copy from my other site
11:54 Naveed have any one worked on RealURL extension?
11:54 Franzen I have tried running it on my localmachine aswell with apache and same error there :(
11:55 Naveed i m in deep deep trouble
11:55 teppi|work have you set php error reporting on, Franzen
11:55 henrik000 can anyone point to instructions for migrating from frontpage to typo3
11:56 teppi|work lol
11:57 Franzen henrik, frontpage is not realy anything worth migrating :>
11:57 Naveed i have installed and configured RealURL extension and the links are also encoding into SEF_links
11:58 henrik000 so I just start all over with an ampty site?
11:58 Naveed but the problem is that when i click on any link
11:58 Naveed then this happens
11:58 Naveed Reason: "startseite/" could not be found, closest page matching is
11:58 Naveed typo3 throws this error
11:58 Naveed i m stuck in it for a long time now
11:58 Naveed guys any solutions to that?
11:59 Franzen teppi, yeah, and it tells me 2 error.. [09-Jan-2008 13:40:23] PHP Fatal error: Cannot re-assign $this in E:\webb\kb2\typo3conf\ext\static_info_tables\class.tx_staticinfotables_syslanguage.php on line 41[09-Jan-2008 13:40:51] PHP Fatal error: Cannot re-assign $this in E:\webb\kb2\typo3conf\ext\skin_grey_2\class.tx_pmktopmenu_fetchContentTopMenu.php on line 38
11:59 Franzen thats i all can get out.. :-/
12:00 Franzen Naveed: are you running RealUrl (or trying?)
12:01 Naveed i m running RealURL
12:01 Naveed its been installed successfully
12:01 teppi|work Naveed, you have put a .htaccess in the root folder
12:01 teppi|work ?
12:01 Naveed i have added htaccess and changed tempalte records acoordingly
12:01 Naveed yes
12:01 teppi|work hm
12:01 Franzen ok! so in your template file, have you added the base url to the site?
12:02 Naveed yes
12:02 Naveed the links are being encoded by realurl prefectly
12:02 Franzen hm :-/
12:02 Naveed but when i click on any link
12:02 Franzen ah okay
12:02 Naveed then ERROR: Reason: "startseite/" could not be found, closest page matching is
12:02 Naveed this error thrown by typo3
12:02 teppi|work Naveed, maybe its a problem with another php version ?
12:03 Naveed i guess not
12:03 teppi|work than on your old system
12:03 Franzen Naveed: i assume you have cleared all cache etc?
12:03 Naveed i am running php 4.4.1
12:03 teppi|work errr Franzen i meant .. :-)
12:03 Naveed yes cleared all cache about 100 times!!
12:04 Naveed :S
12:04 Naveed what should i do
12:04 Franzen Naveed: :) hm so you get a link like this: www.site.com/startseite/ ?
12:04 Franzen or how are the links being built up?
12:04 Naveed actually link is like this coz its omy pc locally
12:04 Naveed http://localhost/Tom_Husler/startseite/
12:05 Franzen teppi, its 5.2.x something.. on the new.. but on the old its 5.1... but on the 5.2 server i can update the site from a brand new t3 install! :-s
12:05 Franzen are u running apache or IIS?
12:05 Naveed it seems typo3 and realURL does not decode the link!
12:05 teppi|work maybe you should disable these two extensions .. first
12:05 Naveed apache 2.0.55
12:06 teppi|work by renaming them
12:06 Naveed what extensions??
12:06 Franzen teppi|work: rename the 2 ext in the typo3conf/ext dir?
12:06 teppi|work yes
12:06 Franzen will give that a try..
12:07 teppi|work Naveed, i spoke to Franzen
12:07 Naveed oh sorry :)
12:07 Franzen Naveed: try my conf for fun.. in the template add: config.baseURL = http://localhost/
12:07 Franzen config.tx_realurl_enable = 1config.uniqueLinkVars = 1config.linkVars = L
12:07 Naveed ok let me try it
12:07 Franzen if you allready did... ignore me :)
12:08 teppi|work Naveed, i think its a configuration problem .. sure, you have put the right values into TYPO3_CONF_VARS
12:08 teppi|work ?
12:08 Naveed ok
12:08 timo hi, can someone tell we how to extend $GLOBALS['TYPO3_CONF_VARS']['SYS']['textfile_ext']; in extension (during setup with the EM) ?
12:08 Naveed teppi let me show you my realurl_conf.php file
12:08 Naveed wait a sec
12:10 Naveed http://phpfi.com/288584
12:10 Naveed hey teppi and franzen please check this out
12:10 Naveed its my realURL configuration file
12:10 Franzen hm
12:11 teppi|work i think the part with the url is missing
12:11 Naveed please have a look and tell me if theres any thing wrong with it
12:11 Franzen to me it looks a bit thin? will have to look at my conf hang on
12:11 Naveed ok
12:12 Franzen http://phpfi.com/288585
12:12 Franzen Naveed: this is mine
12:12 Franzen looks really the same to me.. :-s
12:13 teppi|work yeah forget waht i said .. its only needed if you use more than one domain on one typo3 installation
12:13 Naveed difference is that i have not declared any prevars and post vars
12:14 Franzen are u using the RealURL ext?
12:14 Naveed yah i m using RealURL
12:14 Franzen Naveed: try the UrlTool and let it handle the RealURL encoding and se if it works?
12:14 Franzen i have booth them running on one of my sites
12:15 Naveed UrlTool is also an extension??
12:15 timo naveed: whats wrong with your real url config? i have joined later.
12:15 Naveed i dont know
12:15 Naveed the prbolem is taht
12:16 timo have you selected one page as "start od the website"?
12:16 Naveed the links are being encoded correclty in the html page
12:16 Franzen teppi|work: tried to change the name of the ext and reloade the page, still the same thing.. just noticed, instead of using FF, IE give me an 500 error that the page cant be displayed instad of the Blank page..
12:16 Naveed but when i click on the link the typo3 does not decode that page and throws error
12:16 Franzen Naveed: if you comment out the realurl from the template, does the site work properly then?
12:17 Naveed yes
12:17 teppi|work Franzen, hm .. mystical .. at least the backend should work
12:17 Naveed Reason: "startseite/" could not be found, closest page matching is
12:17 Naveed this error is thrown when i click on any link
12:18 Naveed my url is http://localhost/Tom_Husler/startseite/
12:18 Franzen teppi|work: also FireBug in FF tells me after i have loged in the typo3/alt_topmenu_dummy.php and this file also give me the 500 error
12:18 teppi|work maybe you copy every unnecessary ext into another folder and look if it works .. no idea
12:18 Franzen but it exists, and are exactly a copy from the other site
12:19 Naveed timo: any idea?
12:19 teppi|work maybe its completely generated by the the cached conf files
12:19 timo have yout set the baseUrl?
12:19 Naveed yes
12:19 Franzen could be? wil ltry and remoce the cached dir totaly
12:19 Franzen are any other files cached besicdes them in the typo3temp dir?
12:20 Franzen Then trying to clear the page cache Firebug tells me the tce_db.php also gives me an 500 error.. for some reason
12:21 Naveed timo: one thing i want to ask is that the realurl extension also have to decode the given url
12:21 Naveed right?
12:22 Franzen Naveed: try the URLtool and let it config the typo3conf file and all by it self.. i know i had some similar problem that you have.. dont remember exactly what were the cause of the problem
12:23 Naveed URLtool is an extension??
12:23 Franzen yepp
12:23 Naveed ok i try it
12:23 Franzen It´s also an 404 error handler that might be nice to have if some error occur you can set your own error page
12:24 Naveed basically what it will do it will create realurl_conf.php automatically?
12:25 Franzen yepp
12:25 Franzen might not help, but what the heck might be worth a try
12:26 Naveed :S
12:26 Naveed ok lets try
12:30 timo naveed have you tryed to set 'rootpage_id' => in the realurl_conf ?
12:30 timo in pagePath?
12:31 Naveed nop
12:31 Naveed wait let me set that
12:33 Naveed yippy it worked
12:33 Naveed !!!!
12:33 Naveed :)
12:33 Naveed hey timo what it has to do with rootpage_id
12:33 Franzen Naveed: congrats :>
12:33 Naveed thanks
12:34 Naveed but why it worked with rootpage_id
12:34 Naveed i think this setting is for multiple domains
12:34 Naveed right?
12:35 Franzen but dont you need the rootpage_id to verify where the links should be buildup from? so he know where to start with the / trails? im just guessing into the blue..
12:36 Naveed ok gr8
12:36 Naveed thansks guys
12:36 Naveed especaiily timo and franzen
12:37 Franzen Naveed: np at all :)
12:38 Naveed can u tell me one more thing
12:38 Naveed i have generated a typoscript TMENU
12:38 Naveed in it there is a german character
12:38 Naveed but in its url the character is not showing
12:38 Naveed its been replaced by another character
12:39 timo ok can someone help me with my question: how can i extend $GLOBALS['TYPO3_CONF_VARS']['SYS']['textfile_ext']; during extension setup for example to store xml files in the fileadmin from an extension?
12:39 Naveed i want to show multilingual characters in the url
12:39 Naveed is it possible in realURL?
12:39 timo umlaute?
12:39 Naveed yes
12:40 Naveed can it be shown it in the URL?
12:40 timo i don't really know, but i don't think its possible
12:41 Naveed ok
12:42 Franzen but, Naveed i thing its possible for you to tell the if the character occurs, then let it be replaced by a "c" or "u" or whathever.. know i had the same problem on my site with realurl bud did not find any good easy solution to it so i removed the "R" sign
12:54 Naveed currently it replaces the ü with e
13:17 razer hi all
13:17 razer i have a problem with my menu
13:17 razer i just want to print the href without any <a>-tag
13:17 razer is this possible without extensions/php?
13:25 voidus_ razer: yes
13:25 razer voidus_: really :)
13:25 voidus_ at least it should be..
13:25 razer voidus_: how does it work?
13:26 razer void: im just able to build the href with ?id={field:uid}
13:26 void razer: you need to use .override property and make typolink by your own
13:26 razer void: hmmm ok
13:26 void and use .returnURL or so property in case to get raw href
13:27 razer void: well that sounds good
13:27 razer void: i'll do some research
13:27 razer void: thanks
13:29 void razer: http://dpaste.com/30484/
13:29 void example
13:36 razer void: thanks but it just returns the base href
13:36 razer void: actually i need to return all of the additional vars
13:37 razer void: im working with the commerce extension and i try to make a <div> with an onclick="window.location.href='..'"
13:38 razer void: so your example does not work with the category and produkt links that have another href
13:44 Valda I'm looking for a typo3 extension to create widgets
13:52 void Valda: what do you mean as "wigdets"?
14:02 isolysis hi all, does anyone know if it is possible to embed a dynamic php script inside a typo3 generated page? by dynamic, I mean we have a form.php?parameter=value1&parameter2=value2 etc and user can refresh the page to show different results in a table, so the url is always changing.. but i want to use our typo3 template system if possible to display our header and footer. any ideas?
14:04 loxley_ isolysis: lumonet php include perhaps
14:05 isolysis loxley_: when you say lumonet, is this an typo3 extension?
14:05 loxley_ isolysis: type it in the extension search box
14:05 isolysis thanks.. going to look now
14:07 isolysis loxley_: thanks alot, this seems just right, i will take some time out to study it. appreciate it :)
14:07 Valda void, I mean piece of code I can put on a typo3 page
14:07 Valda which encapsulates javascripts, divs, code, etc
14:10 loxley_ isolysis: if you find out some stuff about the GET and POST variables please drop me a pm :) i haven't checked it out that much either
14:11 isolysis loxley_: for sure, once i figure out the integration process i'd be happy to pass over any tips and ideas.
14:12 loxley_ isolysis: cool ;)
14:20 razer i still need a way to get the complete href from a menu link :/
14:21 tokam_one what does the number in text.20 or text.10 mean?
14:21 tokam_one page i wanted to say
14:21 tokam_one page.10 page.20
14:24 razer its the index
14:24 void Valda: not sure that such extension exists
14:37 tokam_one where to find the static include in the new typo3 version?
14:39 razer tokam_one: either in page-setup or in template->view whole template record
14:39 razer tokam_one: but it should be in template
14:40 tokam_one where in template
14:40 tokam_one template is where i was looking
14:40 razer click on template
14:41 MaDoX hello, or hallo?
14:41 razer make sure "info/modifi" is selected in the dropdown in the upper left
14:41 razer hallo?
14:41 razer tokam_one: then click the "Click here to edit whole template record" link
14:42 razer tokam_one: you should see the whole template informations now
14:42 razer tokam_one: this includes the static templates
14:43 MaDoX geht auch in deutsch?
14:43 razer bei mir schon
14:43 razer aber normal is des hier english
14:45 razer aber du meinst jetz shon den chan?
14:45 razer oder redest du vom typo3 backend?
14:45 MaDoX ahh gut, hab ein problem mit direct mail und cronjob
14:46 razer mhm
14:46 razer tokam_one: found it?
14:46 tokam_one please copy and paste again what you answered to me
14:47 tokam_one my pc had an error and it shut down
14:47 tokam_one so i did not get what you answered
14:47 tokam_one sr
14:47 tokam_one y
14:47 razer <razer> click on template
14:47 razer <MaDoX> hello, or hallo?
14:47 razer <razer> make sure "info/modifi" is selected in the dropdown in the upper left
14:47 razer <razer> hallo?
14:47 razer <razer> tokam_one: then click the "Click here to edit whole template record" link
14:47 razer <razer> tokam_one: you should see the whole template informations now
14:47 razer <razer> tokam_one: this includes the static templates
14:47 US|MaDoX so nun geht das alles bisschen schnell, mit einen irc client :)
14:48 razer ^^
14:48 US|MaDoX +er
14:48 razer US|MaDoX: ich denke zwar nicht, dass ich dir helfen kann aber ich werde es versuchen :)
14:48 razer US|MaDoX: ich bin noch relativ frisch in typo3
14:49 US|MaDoX schonmal umgang mit direct mail gehabt
14:49 razer US|MaDoX: nein leider nicht :/
14:49 razer US|MaDoX: des könnte ein problem werden :D
14:49 US|MaDoX dann wirds eher schlecht mit helfen, glaub ich
14:49 US|MaDoX joar
14:49 tokam_one ich kann auch deutsch
14:49 US|MaDoX ^^
14:49 tokam_one join #typo3.de
14:50 tokam_one razer: i do not find it
14:50 tokam_one razer: perhaps in german language i understand what you want me to tell
14:50 razer ok
14:51 razer ist dein backend auf deutsch oder englisch?
14:51 tokam_one deutsch
14:51 razer ok
14:51 razer links hat du ja "template"
14:51 razer also den menupunkt
14:52 tokam_one ja
14:52 tokam_one schreib doch in typo3.de
14:52 razer jo mach ich gerade ^^
14:54 razer US|MaDoX: wie gut bist du eigentlich in typo3? bzw. wie erfahren?
14:55 US|MaDoX beschaeftige mich auch erst seit einem halben jahr damit
14:55 chrix2 commerce question : how do i add login failed on users?
14:55 razer US|MaDoX: hast du ne ahnung wie ich in einem typo3menü nur die url ausgeben lassen kann?
14:56 US|MaDoX wofür solln das erbarmen sein?
14:57 US|MaDoX wofür solln das dienlich sein?
14:57 razer <div onclick="window.location.href='url'"><a href="url">hallo</a></div>
14:57 razer zum beispiel
14:58 razer also ich will unter dem link ein blockelement welches bei onclick auf die url geht
14:58 razer is halt schöner
14:58 razer bzw find ich es einfacher zum navigieren
15:00 razer und daher brauche ich eine möglichkeit um nur die url bzw halt den inhalt von href auszugeben
15:00 US|MaDoX hmm über optionssplit wuerde ich jetzt sagen
15:00 US|MaDoX oder kann dir einfach noch nicht ganz folgen
15:01 razer hmmm
15:01 razer der server is gerade offline
15:01 razer sonst würde ich dir die seite schicken
15:02 US|MaDoX soll das ein interner link oder externer werden
15:03 razer in will, dass ein HMENU einfach nur die url ausgibt
15:04 razer also, dass | für "index.php?id=blah&whatever=muh" steht
15:04 razer und nicht für einen ganzen link mit <a>-tags
15:04 razer oder alternativ will ich nur die href auslesen lassen
15:04 razer zb wie den seitentitel aus {field:title}
15:04 razer baycix.de
15:05 razer zb
15:05 razer wenn du oben über die navigation fährst, dann löst das menu schon aus wenn du über dem blockelement im hintergrund bist und klickst
15:05 razer nicht erst beim link
15:06 typochur aehm this is a german chatroom?!
15:06 US|MaDoX jo
15:07 typochur for speakin german probably #typo3.de or query would be a good place ;)
15:07 razer typochur: sorry for buggin you ,)
15:08 razer typochur: do you have a clue how to get the complete href from a hmenu item?
15:09 typochur sorry I don't have a clue on TS at all ;)
15:09 typochur all i do is writing extensions
15:09 typochur mh, just a sec
15:10 razer typochur: maybe you could bring up some "i know everything about TS"-buddy?
15:11 typochur mh,probably this snipplet may help you
15:11 typochur http://cxg.de/?id=KAqgrZJCnSdHXfI
15:13 razer typochur: does this thing return the whole url or just a "index.php?id=xx"?
15:13 razer typochur: can't try it right now...server is down
15:14 typochur i dont know ;) Just the alias or id i think
15:15 razer typochur: well....i need to get the url of a commerce-category link
15:15 razer typochur: which got some extra stuff included
15:18 razer oh lord
15:19 razer enlight me or shot me -_-
15:24 pulponair hi there
15:25 pulponair is there a way to clear the fe cache for a certain page form within a BE extension?
15:28 razer waa
15:28 razer some research in js did it
15:28 razer thx anyway
15:28 tokam_one is there a nice typo script ide?
15:28 tokam_one like eclipse for java is?
15:36 chrix2 commerce question : html can find and print tx_commerce_pi1 but it can't show any information that is in category. what can the problem be?
15:40 typochur tokam_one, if you are using windows, you should try PSPad
15:40 typochur there is an add-on for highlighting typoscript
15:40 Leon_ Hi, I am getting following error message when I try to change the header image for a page: Errors:
15:40 Leon_ 1: Attempt to insert record on page 'My Site' (1550) where this
15:40 Leon_ table, tx_mmheaderimg_image, is not allowed
15:40 isolysis i am trying to over ride a setting for one page only, is it possible to do this via typoscript / tsconfig ? basically i have a global setting that defines 'you are here' text before the rootline breadcrumbs, but i need to change that text for one page only
15:41 HardPhuck need some help heer
15:41 Leon_ is this a permission error?
15:41 HardPhuck here
15:41 ries this one is fun : http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm
15:41 HardPhuck i installed a new installation of typo3
15:41 HardPhuck but whenever i click a page that requires image processing, i get a blank page
15:42 HardPhuck so i think it's the gd library that is causing problems
15:42 HardPhuck but i dunno how to solve them
15:44 HardPhuck if i go phpinfo i get gd support correctly
15:44 isolysis ries: can you help me maybe? i want to override some typoscript 'constants' for one page only.. is this possible via tsconfig or similar?
15:45 isolysis HardPhuck: have u verified your image processing abilities in the install tool?
15:45 HardPhuck that's the problem, i cannot see that section of the install tool
15:46 isolysis 5: image processing
15:46 HardPhuck i only get a blank page when i click "image processing"
15:46 isolysis then you installation is wrong
15:46 isolysis even without image processing ability u should be able to see that page
15:47 isolysis what setup do you have.. i.e. windows, unix, php versions mysql etc
15:47 HardPhuck mac os x
15:47 HardPhuck php 5.2.5
15:47 HardPhuck mysql 5.0.51
15:48 HardPhuck gd 2.0.34
15:49 HardPhuck phpinfo shows that everything works fine
15:49 HardPhuck i installed everything via macports except gd library, that one was compiled and installed manually
15:59 Leon_ can we get support here?
16:05 typochur depends on
16:23 HardPhuck just2b i installed smoothgallery but now i cannot find where to change Image # of # in the lightbox into another language
16:23 just2b in the js files
16:23 HardPhuck oh lol looked everywhere else BUT the js files :)
16:24 HardPhuck which one of them?
16:24 HardPhuck typo3conf/ext/rgsmoothgallery/res/scripts
16:24 HardPhuck this files?
16:25 just2b yes
16:25 just2b jd.gallery
16:28 HardPhuck found it in slightbox107.js
16:28 HardPhuck thank you
16:28 just2b np
16:29 HardPhuck The process has forked and you cannot use this CoreFoundation functionality safely. You MUST exec().
16:29 HardPhuck Break on __THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__() to debug.
16:29 HardPhuck [Thu Jan 10 16:27:10 2008] [notice] child pid 17724 exit signal Trace/BPT trap (5)
16:29 HardPhuck has anyone any clue what this meand
16:29 HardPhuck means
16:30 HardPhuck i get this when i want to install typo3 and i get blank pages *but not all of them* in the install tool
16:35 dokma hi ppl
16:36 dokma how do I export my ext to a single file?
16:37 No5251 dokma: just click on the disk icon in the extension manager
16:38 dokma No5251: thanks. Found it
16:45 dokma how do I switch an ext to a USER_INT ?
16:45 just2b TS plugin.tx_yourext_pi1 = USER_INT
16:46 dokma it's my extension
16:46 dokma can I make it USER_INT by default?
16:46 dokma from the code
16:47 just2b yes
16:47 just2b can do it in the kickstarter
16:47 dokma oh, didn't see it
16:47 dokma will try now
16:47 dokma I have backup copy
16:49 dokma just2b: is that some checkbox somewhere
16:49 dokma or must I enter some default TS?
16:51 ries somebody has guts here : http://www.flixxy.com/jet-man.htm
16:53 just2b dokma, checkbox
16:53 just2b which will change 2 lines of code or so
16:54 dokma would this work: $this->pi_USER_INT_obj=1;
16:54 dokma in main?
16:54 just2b just try it
16:54 dokma ok
16:54 just2b ries, i was it 3900m yesterdays ;)
16:54 ries hehehe.. that is about 600 meters higher then where I live ;)
16:55 just2b ^^ where do you live ^^
16:55 ries just2b: Quito, Ecuador
16:55 just2b i was btw just in a balloon ;)(
16:56 ries We sometimes take the jeep and go up to 4500 meters hehehe
16:56 just2b nice
16:56 ries Not sure the exact hight at that place though....
16:58 ries just2b: you must have had a brilliant view
16:59 just2b was a little bit cloudy but it was very nice.. it is my home town, so i know all the mountains and that stuff
17:08 uriahheep hey guys
17:08 uriahheep how would one update the typo3 core when a new version is released?
17:11 isolysis uriahheep: are you on windows or unix?
17:13 isolysis can anyone help me with some typoscript? I have in my template ts toolbarStandardLangClickPathPrefix = You are here: (which is for the rootline text), but on one particular page, I want to show some different text, can i do this from tsconfig or something?
17:14 uriahheep isolysis: unix
17:15 uriahheep isolysis: do i just need to make a symlink?
17:15 isolysis uriahheep: then you need to simply delete the symlink for 'typo3_src -> typo3_src-4.1.4' and create a new symlilnk ''typo3_src -> typo3_src-4.1.5' then just run your install tool
17:15 uriahheep hmm, ok :)
17:15 uriahheep cool
17:15 uriahheep oh... why do i need to run my install tool again, though?
17:16 isolysis well you don't need to really if you are only upgrading 4.1.4 to 4.1.5 but for major release changes, there is a upgrade wizard in teh install tool
17:16 uriahheep hmm, ok
17:16 isolysis plus you should make a habit of running the database analyzer
17:16 uriahheep isolysis: what about 4.1.2 to 4.1.5? :P
17:17 isolysis 4.1.2 to 4.1.5 you do not need the upgrade wizard , since both are running 4.1 compatibility mode.. you need to run the wizard when ypgrading from 3.8 to 4.1.x
17:17 uriahheep ok, cool
17:18 uriahheep isolysis: what kinds of changes are made in these smaller releases, though?
17:18 just2b bugs
17:18 isolysis lots of bug fixes
17:18 just2b 4,1.x is just bugs
17:18 uriahheep isolysis: are there actual vulnerabilities and such?
17:18 isolysis 4.2 is when the real new features come out
17:18 uriahheep hmm,ok
17:18 just2b can be yes
17:18 uriahheep ...so, it's highly recommended to upgrade.
17:19 just2b you can read this always in the security bulletins
17:19 just2b but upgrad is always good
17:19 isolysis yes i remember there was some security fixes, you should check www.typo3.com for latest news abotu that
17:19 isolysis uriahheep: what php/mysql version are you running?
17:20 isolysis can anyone help me with some typoscript? I have in my template ts "toolbarStandardLangClickPathPrefix = You are here:" (which is for the rootline text), but on one particular page, I want to show some different text, can i do this from tsconfig or something?
17:20 just2b ries > http://www.just2b.com/fotos/ballonfahrt-9108.html
17:21 uriahheep isolysis: why? compatibility fixes?
17:21 isolysis uriahheep: just asking in general... php5 is good,
17:21 isolysis if you have
17:22 uriahheep isolysis: yeah, i'm running php5
17:22 uriahheep and lighttpd ;D
17:22 isolysis the newer typo3 4.2 versions will be dependent on php5 i think, and alot of the newer extensions are requiring it also, so its a good time to upgrade php also if you had not got it
17:22 isolysis plus php developers themselves are phasing out support for php4 completely very soon
17:25 uriahheep heheh
17:36 uriahheep isolysis: hmm... i guess before you remove the symlink you usually create a patch of the changes that you've made to the typo3 source code, right? :P
17:37 uriahheep you know... for stuff like bugs that haven't been fixed in the release yet, but for which there is a fix
17:37 isolysis uriahheep: oh, if you have been changing stuff in the core, then you will need to transport those fixes to the new release if they haven;t been fixed in the latest version
17:38 uriahheep for example, like this: http://www.pastebin.ca/849564
17:38 uriahheep indeed
17:38 uriahheep ok, cool, then
17:38 isolysis but even if you have deleted the symlink, thats no problem, just go inside your old src folder, i.e. typo3_src-4.1.2 and your changes should be there
17:38 uriahheep indeed
17:38 uriahheep basically, never delete the source ;D
17:38 isolysis but you may want to verify that they havent already been fixed
17:38 isolysis yeah you don't have to delete the source
17:39 uriahheep yeah i just have to use diff on the new version to see if the code modification has been implemented
17:39 uriahheep if it hasn't then i just put it in ;)
17:40 isolysis i dunno what diff is, i have heard the term thrown around before esp on bugs.typo3.org but i never quite understood the what/how of it
17:40 uriahheep ah, ok :P
17:40 uriahheep isolysis: you use linux, right?
17:40 isolysis is your site quite fully developed?
17:41 uriahheep isolysis: yeah, it is
17:41 isolysis i have a linux box and windows too, but typo3 is running on windows for us because of better hardware
17:41 uriahheep oh, i see :S:S
17:41 uriahheep heheh
17:41 isolysis windows is not too bad, it has its up and down.. but in general it is easier to get started on unix/typo3
17:41 uriahheep isolysis: ok, well, in your linux box, make a copy of a certain text file, and then make a few modifications to it
17:41 uriahheep then run this:
17:42 uriahheep diff -u original-file modified-file
17:42 uriahheep then you'll basically see what diff is for ;D
17:42 isolysis ahh, i see, so this will check for differences
17:42 uriahheep it's for making patches
17:42 isolysis doh!
17:42 uriahheep exactly ;)
17:42 uriahheep ..and, well, you can just do this:
17:43 uriahheep diff -u original-file modified-file > file.patch
17:43 uriahheep and then...
17:43 uriahheep cat file.patch | patch -pX (change X for whatever amount of directory levels that you want to skip in the path that is in the patch)
17:44 isolysis you must use unix often.. i probably couldn't remember all those types of commands
17:44 isolysis windows GUI >
17:47 uriahheep heheh
17:47 uriahheep i run linux on all of my boxes :P
17:47 uriahheep the laptop i'm using now is running gentoo ;)
17:48 uriahheep gotta love the compiz-fusion bling.
17:48 uriahheep such a better work environment than windows :D multiple workspaces, smoothly move from one to another with ctrl+alt+left/right
17:48 uriahheep it just feels nicer than minimizing :P i never minimize my windows :)
17:49 dokma guys, what's the difference between 'backend' and 'backend module' in kickstarter?
17:49 isolysis that may be so, but aren't there alot of programs that are not compatible with unix, but i guess you have stuff like wine for that
17:49 isolysis the closet i come to unix is the SSH terminal when connecting to our server :p
17:50 isolysis rmdir /
17:50 dokma rm -rf / isolysis
17:50 uriahheep isolysis: heh, what kinds of programs are you talking about?
17:50 isolysis dokma: thanks
17:50 dokma not that it would work :)
17:51 dokma hehe
17:51 isolysis uriahheep: i dunno
17:51 uriahheep isolysis: all that apps that i need are available for linux ;)
17:51 isolysis dokma: why not
17:51 uriahheep isolysis: of course, for games, one would usually use wine/cedega... but that's all... and i don't really play games anyway
17:51 dokma well root is usually a mount point
17:51 dokma so it's a bit crazy to delete it
17:52 uriahheep heheh
17:52 isolysis dokma: so what would you need to do to cause some serious damage?
17:52 dokma isolysis: usually windows and internet connection
17:52 uriahheep rm -rf /*
17:52 isolysis uriahheep: i am just familiar with windows, so i couldnt really say either way for unix desktop environments
17:52 uriahheep heheh, ok
17:52 isolysis nice joke lol
17:53 dokma I just love not having an antivirus on my linux box
17:53 uriahheep heh
17:53 dokma and not having to worry about it
17:53 uriahheep you should have one anyway ;P
17:53 uriahheep but i don't
17:53 uriahheep :)
17:53 dokma or using stuff like sshfs
17:53 uriahheep indeed <3 sshfs
17:53 dokma is there a way on windows to mount a remote filesystem via ssh?
17:55 isolysis if you are asking me, i am the wrong person for it
17:55 isolysis anyhow, i have to go... work break, nap time :D
17:55 dokma hehe:)
17:55 dokma go for it man
17:56 isolysis just for the record, i take zZzzZ at home! k peace out
18:01 uriahheep dokma: i don't think so
18:01 uriahheep dokma: the best one can do is use something like winscp, i think
18:01 uriahheep but i may be wrong :P
18:01 dokma uriahheep: I found a software that does it
18:01 uriahheep isolysis: heh, goodnight :P
18:01 dokma google windows mount ssh
18:01 uriahheep heheh k
18:02 uriahheep dokma: :( not free, though
18:08 dokma yup
18:08 dokma it's windows man
18:08 dokma how dare you ask for free!
18:09 dokma if I was Bill Gates I'd charge $500 per year for using windows
18:10 uriahheep lol
18:10 uriahheep i wouldn't pay that much to use a shitty OS
18:10 uriahheep i mean it falls apart even before you're done installing it!! :-o
18:10 uriahheep heh, but what i really want right now is a solid-state drive
18:11 uriahheep like that 800+gb one that they showed on slashdot the other day
18:11 dokma yeah me neither
18:12 dokma but if Billy charged that much then the number of people using it would be much more appropriate
18:12 uriahheep heheh
18:12 uriahheep yeah
18:16 webworker hi everybuddy
18:16 webworker is somebody from the association here?
18:16 webworker I'v an idea for sponsorship
18:19 just2b i would be surpirsed if this would be the case
18:19 just2b write a mail
18:21 webworker will call dominic or adi, but just wanted to have some chat first if there is some interesst
18:21 just2b i am interesstet but not association ;)
18:22 just2b but well known in the german scene ;)
18:22 just2b (maybe better than most core devs *G*)
18:22 uriahheep heheh :)
18:22 uriahheep void: is there much of a russian typo3 scene? :P
18:26 void uriahheep: not so much... maybe 5% of german one
18:28 void we have a forum at typo3.biz with 5-10 new messages for day. i think that's much less then on typo3.net
18:28 just2b ROFL
18:28 void just2b: what?
18:28 webworker we'r thinking about a competition for the best extension with an interessting price
18:28 just2b 100-200 per day at typo3.net
18:29 just2b webworker, this is cool, more infors ;)
18:29 just2b but what is the best?
18:30 just2b the most used is tt_news, the highest ratest is rgsmoothgallery, or makes realurl the most sense in these days?
18:30 void just2b: that's understandable... there was a survey on typo3.org... and most of T3 users are german
18:30 webworker but for that we need some partner agencys which also invest some money and of course some developers for the jury
18:30 just2b jury sounds nice ;)
18:30 just2b the association won't give you money
18:30 just2b ask some typo3 hosters
18:31 webworker the extension would have to be fully documented, also source code and has to implement all basic typo3 standard (versioning support, multilanguage support, typoscript usage, template usage...), the main idea is to rise the quality of the TER by motivating developers to clean up their extensions
18:32 void webworker: T3 need a good MVC framework. lib/div is still alpha and slowly developed
18:32 just2b you will fail, i am sorry
18:33 void so, we think about using 3rd party framework and writing bridges to T3
18:33 webworker there would have to be a minimal time of existance of the extensions, no 'new' extensions would be allowed to the competitions because that's the problem of the TER there are more than 1000 unmaintained extensions without documentation with crazy source code without basic typo3 things
18:33 just2b because one simple reason: there are two groups: the good devs, who will follow the rules and have always done so.. their quaility is already good.. and the bad guys,who follow no single rule, and if they can't follow them now, they won't do it later on
18:34 void just2b: you are partly right
18:34 webworker just2b: that's true, but even a lot of good guys have extensions which they didn't touch the last 2 years, didn't update the documentation or don't support workspace
18:35 webworker if the price is high enough there will be enough developers which will join the battle
18:35 void webworker: workspace/i18n code in T3 core is just one big pain... so what do you want from ext. devs?
18:35 just2b webworker... because there is no real good manual for workspace, there is absolutly no good code to implement usage with DAM
18:35 webworker the concept is working
18:35 void if even core team members can't understand that code?
18:36 webworker google does it sind some years, they have a 10 million price for the best android application, so what's about a 10'000 price for the best typo3 extension
18:36 webworker that's true
18:36 just2b and some exts just don't need any touch, even after 2 years
18:36 webworker so they won't compete
18:36 webworker so what
18:37 webworker there area more than 2800
18:37 webworker or did you give up version 4.x ?
18:37 just2b nobody gives up 4.x
18:37 just2b but which ext should win? the best exts are e.g. tt_news and reaurl.. but it wouldnt be fair to give them the code, or?
18:38 just2b this wouldnt help the thing you wanna reach
18:38 webworker i tell you even tt_news and realurl have some things
18:38 just2b better would some quality check before uploading .. or the review processs should be just restarted
18:38 just2b of course they have
18:38 webworker nobody has the time to review
18:39 webworker and even if you review and send comments/feedback most developers don't adapt them
18:39 just2b but 1 single price (or 3) won't change anything
18:39 just2b you could already rate the extension
18:39 just2b but this should be much much better
18:39 webworker yes, but that's not what I'm talking about
18:40 just2b hi pulp
18:40 pulponair just2b: hi
18:40 webworker and by the way typo3 has a lot of great things, even mvc, you just have to find and use them
18:41 webworker everybudy is reinventing the wheel
18:41 just2b who reinvents?
18:41 pulponair webworker: mvc? no way ...
18:41 just2b pulp > http://www.just2b.com/fotos/ballonfahrt-9108.html ;)
18:41 webworker ok not the mvc mega cool you know what great framework, but you can implement the mvc framework with typo3 existing tools
18:41 pulponair webworker: if your are talking about lib/div its nothing but v/3 + c/2
18:42 webworker I'm not talking about lib/div I'm talking about core
18:42 webworker it's like oop
18:42 webworker oop is a concept
18:42 webworker mvc is a concept
18:42 webworker you can develop oop with "C" and you can do mvc with "TYPO3"
18:43 pulponair webworker: yes by reinventing the wheel most core is no real oop except for inheritation (though not that good implemented). No designpatterns no advanced oop ...
18:44 webworker i know a lot of core code is 'not that good'
18:44 webworker but come one, are we doing big web projects with TYPO3 5.0 at the moment or is everybudy, every agency using TYPO3 4.x ?
18:45 pulponair 5.0 is nothing but an unfinished framework atm
18:46 webworker typo3 is not used so much because its beauty, fancy or because of the best oop implementation... typo3 is used because you can do things with it, because there is the functionality and flexibility to build nearly any kind of web page you want to
18:46 pulponair webworker: that is something i never denied
18:46 just2b so wie need no mvc and oop :D
18:46 webworker TYPO3 is used so much because web agencys can serve the customer a solution which fullfills his needs
18:47 just2b not only
18:47 pulponair webworker: depends on the customer ...real enterprise solution arent possible atm due to the lack of scalation/interface and a proper software design
18:48 pulponair webworker: not to mention about security issues ...
18:48 ShadowHunter maybe the code is not very beautiful but it works.. a redesign takes time
18:48 webworker what I see is, that a lot of energy is killed because of to many unmaintained extensions, and because there is no clear defined way to handle default tasks while developing extensions with typo3
18:48 just2b so improve the system, not the extensions
18:49 ndee hey there
18:49 ShadowHunter also OOP needs PHP5, with PHP4 you can get serious problems
18:49 pulponair webworker: yes caused by an inconsistend api of poor quality ..
18:49 pulponair ShadowHunter: right, but even the basics are possible
18:49 webworker and so sorry, but that's not a thing to solve with an extension like lib/div, it's something that has to be solved by the core, by documentation, by a fixed api which HAS to be used by new extensions and there has to be some motivations to get the developers to clean up their extensions
18:49 ndee if I'm looking for a typo3 developer, where would be the best way to look?
18:49 pulponair webworker: indeed
18:49 ShadowHunter and btw: typoscript rocks ;)
18:49 webworker ndee: please tell me if you found an answer ;-)
18:49 just2b > review process
18:49 ndee I mean a general web developer, specialized in typo3
18:50 webworker ndee: newsgroups, t3n
18:50 just2b typo3.net, google
18:50 webworker thank you for conversation
18:51 webworker I'll think about it and come back with a modified idea
18:51 webworker bye bye
18:51 pulponair ShadowHunter: further more php4 doesnt prevents you from makin use of basic oop desing patterns like factory, registry, observer, composite etc.
18:51 pulponair ShadowHunter: if you are interessted in have a look at e.g. cakephp it implements a lot good oop code and its fully php4 compatible.
18:52 ndee pulponair: have you done some stuff with cakephp?
18:52 pulponair ndee: yes some projects
18:53 pulponair ndee: (hopefully some more this year)
18:53 ndee pulponair: how do you like it? I started a bit with ruby on rails
18:53 pulponair ndee: well i like it a lot ...an yes its a "rails" clone ...
18:54 ndee pulponair: just easier to learn because you know php, right? :D
18:54 pulponair ndee: i did a little research 2 or 3 years ago ..trying to find a good framework ..and i ended at cake
18:54 ndee so you can recommend it?
18:54 pulponair ndee: yes, that is one thing and the other thing is that according to my experienced hosting ruby applications isnt that easy ...and i do not know anything about scalabilty and so on
18:55 pulponair ndee: i would at least recommed you to have a look at it
18:55 ndee pulponair: ok, will do. We wrote a RoR application and the hosting is a little bit a PITA
18:55 pulponair ndee: if you do so try 1.2 its pre beta but already really stable ...and the new feature are a "must have"
18:55 void btw, noone can use OOP with C ;)
18:55 void cause C doesn't contain classes )
18:56 ndee pulponair: ok :) I gonna use it for my project then, which took a nice turn. First I tried it from scratch, then with ruby on rails, then typo3, then ruby on rails and now cake :D
18:56 pulponair ndee: there are some other "rails" clones ...e.g. symfonie. But it seems a little dirty to me ...i profiled about 150 classes in memory creating a "i do nothing application"
18:57 pulponair ndee: i wouldnt use typo3 to write a large application
18:57 ndee pulponair: oh, why not?
18:57 pulponair ndee: use the framework of your choice and write interfaces to t3
18:57 pulponair ndee: because the t3 api is weak, slow, outdated and not captable of handling a large application
18:57 ndee pulponair: ok, maybe typo3 5.0 will change that :D
18:57 pulponair ndee: i mean it is possible of course but it takes more time and is more pain and the result will be ugly
18:58 pulponair ndee: yes indeed
18:58 lighty hey all
18:58 pulponair ndee: take t3 as what it is : a web cms whit the possiblety to write own "PLUGINS"
18:58 ndee yeah, my friend already suggested cake instead of ruby, just because I know php already better ;)
18:58 pulponair ndee: plugins != apllications
18:58 pulponair ndee: interface to another application = plugin :)
18:58 ndee pulponair: yeah, that's true.
18:59 pulponair ndee: mini application = plugin :)
18:59 ndee s/ruby/rails
18:59 pulponair at least that is my opinion :)
19:00 ndee I like it for big webpages etc. and the kickstarter is also pretty sweet but I think with those "new" (I know, some are 2 or 3 years old or even older) frameworks, things changed IMO. But would you also do a normal web page with cake? Or just an application?
19:00 pulponair ndee: one thing if you decide to play arround with cake go to #cakephp the people over there are usually very friendly
19:01 ndee pulponair: cool. #rubyonrails is actually ok, IF you find the right persons ;)
19:01 pulponair ndee: you could also do normal websites but it is mainly a framework so if you "website is 80% application + 20% website" it will fit
19:01 pulponair ndee: its pretty much like on rails
19:01 ndee yeah, but not vice-versa :D
19:02 ndee I really like the approach of rails and it has some useful stuff but I'm just so used to php hehe
19:02 pulponair ndee: right that is why i said : use things to what the are supposed to :)
19:02 ndee jep
19:02 ndee the right tool for the right job :)
19:02 pulponair ndee: yes indeed ...not that "T3 is the ultimativ web weapon"
19:02 ndee hehe
19:02 pulponair ndee: better -> combine the power of different projects ..
19:03 ndee jep. I learned that when we looked for a newsletter software. We first tried that typo3 thing... forgot the name and then Ries told me about campaignmonitor.com :)
19:03 pulponair ndee: like i said before : e.g. complex applicaton ->powerfull framework (e.g. rails, cakephp whatever) cms -> typo3 ...+ interfaces
19:03 pulponair ndee: yes
19:04 pulponair ndee: its very simple would you trust a guy complainig that he is a briliant programmer and an even more brilliant designer?
19:04 pulponair ndee: so dont trust typo3 saying it is a good cms and a good application framework :)
19:05 ndee hehe, well, maybe if he's that one-in-7.3billion but in general, nope :D
19:05 pulponair ndee: yes okay, there are exceptions
19:05 pulponair ;)
19:05 ndee hehe
19:05 just2b like pulponair ;)
19:05 ndee hehe
19:05 ndee show me some designs :D
19:05 pulponair ndee: really ?
19:05 ndee <hutch>do it. do it.</hutch>
19:06 pulponair ndee: wait
19:06 just2b ah thanks.. i need to make my design ;)
19:07 ndee design stuff is haaaaaaaaaard
19:07 ndee to make it look really <borat>sexy tiiiiiiime</borat>
19:07 ndee but well, also programming is an art form actually ;)
19:08 pulponair ndee: i posted a link to the query
19:08 ndee ah
19:09 ndee haha, sweet :D
19:09 ndee did you do all that retouching also?
19:10 pulponair ndee: yes that was just a fun project a "a tool store for girls"
19:10 ndee hehe, funny :)
19:10 ndee I like the chanel glove :D
19:10 pulponair ndee: yes took the fotos and made the postproduction
19:10 pulponair ndee: yes it was very funny finding ideas :)
19:10 pulponair ndee: i like the lipstick driller
19:10 ndee jep hehe
19:10 pulponair ndee: but please keep it private
19:10 ndee will do
19:10 pulponair ndee: i got another one wait
19:10 ndee is that already running?
19:11 ndee I assume not :D
19:11 ndee google can't find a thing :D
19:11 pulponair ndee: no it is fictuall
19:11 ndee ah :D
19:11 ndee nice cover, artsy :D
19:12 pulponair ndee: actually i do some distance study alongside my job. and i had to take some design classes these things have been part of the 2nd class
19:13 pulponair ndee: so that is why i aske you to keep it private until i finished the class
19:13 ndee I see :)
19:13 pulponair ndee: i dont want anyone to steal the baumarkt idea :)
19:13 ndee hehe
19:13 ndee what baumarkt? ;)
19:13 ndee I don't know what you are talking about.
19:13 ndee ;)
19:14 pulponair ndee: "tool shop" (baumarkt.pdf)
19:14 ndee I know, I'm from Switzerland.
19:14 ndee that was more of a , weiss nicht wie man dem sagt ;)
19:14 nathanl-wi does anyone know if there is a evel keyword (for use in TCA) that is case insensitive unique?
19:14 pulponair i ve got th pass the design test in feb. so you have to keep it private untile mid of feb .; )
19:15 HardPhuck is it possible to display some html template and content without css_styled_content extension installed??
19:15 pulponair ndee: what do you think about the cd cover?
19:15 pulponair ndee: pictures are also taken by me
19:15 ndee normally, if someone queries me something, I announce it on all newsgroups I know it, I also put it on digg ;)
19:16 ndee I like the design, looks professional, that girl on the front just looks a little bit too much like victoria beckham ;)
19:16 pulponair ndee: yes i know that you are a blithering bastard therefor i told you several times ;>
19:16 ndee :D
19:16 ndee but it looks kinda "sad", a little bit emo :D
19:16 pulponair ndee: well i use to take pictures of her for that tasks
19:17 ShadowHunter pulponair: was away.. sorry.. OOP on php4 sucks.. every framework should remove all php4-support
19:17 pulponair ndee: yes it is supposed to do ...but not really emo....more emocore or perhaps gothic ..
19:17 ShadowHunter pulponair: btw: symfony rocks ;)
19:17 pulponair ShadowHunter: i dont like it that much ..
19:17 ShadowHunter why?
19:17 pulponair ShadowHunter: but its functionallity is ok
19:18 ndee or yeah, gothic, not such a fan of that whole genre, all that evil, sad, pesimistic thinking :D
19:18 pulponair ndee: nor am i ...but i though the pictures would fit good to that genre
19:18 pulponair ndee: and you proved that i was right ;)
19:18 ndee jep, they do. Also the bloody-letters
19:19 ndee hehe
19:19 pulponair ndee: the best trick was to add all that "legal stuff" and bar code to the back side it make things look more professional
19:19 ndee definitely.
19:20 HardPhuck is there a css styled content alternative
19:20 pulponair HardPhuck: i dont think so
19:20 HardPhuck because c-s-c puts a lot of crap in the code and i dont like it
19:21 pulponair HardPhuck: make sure you set your compat lvl to 4.x ...it will look much better afterwards
19:21 HardPhuck yeah
19:21 pulponair HardPhuck: if it still looks crappy to you, you could modify it to fit your needs
19:21 HardPhuck i dont want ANY code to be added by it
19:21 HardPhuck no classes
19:22 pulponair HardPhuck: so you have to modify it ....just override the TS
19:22 HardPhuck yeah
19:22 HardPhuck but i'm no TS guru so that's going to be a party
19:23 pulponair perhaps there is something like minimalistc variation out there on the net but i do not know for sure ...you could ask at the mailinglist ...
19:23 pulponair HardPhuck: yes ;)
19:24 pulponair hmmm i gotta head home
19:24 nolis Hi all
19:24 pulponair nice evening dudes
19:24 HardPhuck same to you
19:25 nolis Hello, is there anyone can help me with a easy typoscript.. I have allready setuped a template page.. just need a static news plug on it... ?
19:25 ndee l8r
19:27 anfisa Hello! Does anyone know, is there a stable web mail plugin for typo3? Thanks!
19:28 nolis Hi is there anyone helping me with a litle script...
19:37 timdeluxe anfisa: there are a few stable webmailer which dont have anything to do with typo3, why do you want that?
19:38 timdeluxe nolis: just ask the question, not for help. if somebody could help he'll answer
19:38 isolysis ndee: are you still looking for a typo3 developer?
19:40 anfisa timdeluxe: thanks, i wanted to have web mailer as a part of intra CMS
19:42 isolysis can anyone advise me how i can over ride some global typoscript 'constants' setting, for one page of my site?
19:42 isolysis i see that on the properties page for every 'page record' there is a box for 'tsconfig' but i am not sure how to use it
19:44 timdeluxe anfisa: did you search TER?
19:44 timdeluxe isolysis: just make an extension template
19:44 timdeluxe take the template module
19:44 timdeluxe click on the page in page tree
19:44 isolysis timdeluxe: i have this in my global typoscript setup "toolbarStandardLangClickPathPrefix = you are here:" i just want to change that text for one page
19:44 timdeluxe and then on the button for extension template... dont know how it is written there
19:45 nolis Ok I want to make a simple static news table on the left side, this should show up on every subpage, how can I manage this
19:45 nolis http://www.evenin.com/gernot/screen.jpg
19:46 nolis like on this picture, ..it's all working but i don't now how to make this news table static with the typo 3
19:47 isolysis timdeluxe: that worked just how i wanted.. this is excellent, thanks alot i love you man!!!
19:48 isolysis i was looking for some time how to figure this out, and yet here so simple
19:49 timdeluxe isolysis: hey, stop, i am hetero ;)
19:50 timdeluxe nolis: a simple question, but right now i dont know a answer yet
19:51 nolis ok thx timdeluxe
19:51 isolysis timdeluxe: don't worry i don't have any underlying homo tendencies so i can say stuff like that in complete innocence :D
19:51 anfisa timdeluxe: sure thing i did, with no luck, may be you have heared of other CMS with web mail support?
19:52 isolysis nolis: a news table using the tt_news extension?
19:52 timdeluxe nolis: perhaps this helps? http://www.typo3forum.net/forum/typo3-3-x-fragen-probleme/4957-extension-seite-sichtbar.html
19:52 isolysis nolis: if you are building a new site, i would recommend a starter package, like the YAML for typo3 extension, which has many datastructure and templates for you to work from
19:53 nolis Ok das ist Deutsch super ;-)
19:53 timdeluxe yes but stop talking german here ;)
19:54 nolis ;-)
20:38 isolysis in my site template, i have a constant in typoscript 'footerStandardLangHtmlCode = some footer text' but this only allows me to enter everything on one line.. is there any way to do so with multiple lines of html text ?
20:40 just2b can do it like
20:40 just2b temp.foo = TEXT
20:40 just2b temp.foo.value (
20:40 just2b line1
20:40 just2b line 2
20:40 just2b )
20:42 isolysis just2b: i am complete newb at this kind of stuff.. do you think it would be possible to make it fetch the code from an external html file maybe? or alternatively, how would i write up 'footerStandardLangHtmlCode ' in the structure you said
20:45 just2b i guess in constants you need to use 1 line, but in TS you can take it like I said
20:48 isolysis just2b: i am using an extension which has the footerStandardLangHtmlCode constant defined, and in constant editor it only gives one line to edit it.. i am not sure if it is possible to TS, and where could i check that?
20:49 isolysis i tried what you said in typoscript constants in edit template section, footerStandardLangHtmlCode = TEXT and everything else but in the FE it just said TEXT
20:53 just2b no try the (
20:53 just2b bla
20:53 just2b )
20:54 isolysis i wrote both of them at the same time?
20:55 just2b both what?
20:56 isolysis ok i tried just the one
20:57 isolysis footerStandardLangHtmlCode.value {
20:57 isolysis some text etc
20:57 isolysis )
20:57 just2b no value
20:57 isolysis brb
20:59 isolysis ok thats interesting, i have this:
20:59 isolysis footerStandardLangHtmlCode (
20:59 isolysis blah <br />
20:59 isolysis and blah <br/>
20:59 isolysis )
20:59 isolysis but in FE it only prints the first 'blah <br />' the second line is not shown
21:00 just2b so it doesnt work, sry
21:04 uriahheep isolysis: do you need the newline? :P
21:04 uriahheep isolysis: try blah <br />\nand blah <br />
21:04 uriahheep :P
21:06 isolysis uriahheep: i hope you are kidding
21:06 isolysis just2b: thanks anyway
21:07 uriahheep heh
21:07 isolysis is it possible to do <?php include()> in the typoscript constants?
21:11 just2b no
21:11 isolysis guess not, just tried it :D
21:12 isolysis basically my issue is that i am using a template system extension, and it sets the footer text via the constants, but its lame because it only allows one line, while i have about 12 solid lines of html
21:13 isolysis so either i could get a bigger area to copy paste the html, or instead override the default action and include the contents of a file.htm
21:14 isolysis but i know how to do neither ;)
21:35 tomyN hi, could I replace ul and il tags with DL DT, or does the latter require a different class definition syntax
21:35 tomyN eg : <li class="level1-no toggler atStart"><a class="pointer">|</a><ul class="element atStart">
21:37 lighty you'll have to change the css, but it's not that hard, no?
21:37 lighty (hi tomyN)
21:38 tomyN hi lighty
21:38 tomyN I have a hard time to find the cause for the indentions, my haed is spinning
21:39 lighty take a look at my css, maybe it'll help you
21:39 tomyN I'll paste it ...
21:40 tomyN http://pastebin.com/m4ed80da3
21:42 tomyN here the site: http://tghd.dyndns.org/quetzal/
21:42 tomyN I'd like to remove the intends of level 2, and make those fonts normal.
21:44 tomyN with dl dt dd syntax, I have lines between sections, which I actually like. see here: http://www.quetzalenergy.com/
21:46 tomyN lighty: Where is YOUR css? Watcha mean?
21:48 lighty http://lighty.pastebin.com/m6e5e43e2
21:49 lighty see how to deal with ul & li
21:49 tomyN I see, that's not defined in my CSS at all
21:50 tomyN cool - will adapt it, thanks!!!
21:51 tomyN http://tghd.dyndns.org/quetzal/index.php?id=181
21:51 tomyN lighty: I just pasted yours,
21:52 tomyN Thanks again, will work with this now!!
21:53 lighty ;)
21:53 lighty good luck
21:54 tomyN you have no idea how much you helped me.
21:54 uriahheep hmm.. where do i set what the default language is again?
21:55 lighty setup
21:55 lighty ie: page.config.language = fr
21:55 lighty or just config.language = fr
21:58 uriahheep hmm, cool
21:58 uriahheep thanks
21:59 lighty yw
22:00 tomyN yeah, mine was set on German, now I can change this too, heh!!
22:01 lighty wait, you mean the config language for the FE or BE?
22:02 lighty cuz if it's FE it's config.language
22:02 lighty if for BE, you have to do it another way
22:02 lighty (in the Setup on the left menu)
22:02 lighty and again in Useradmin (edit your user and choose the default language)
22:03 uriahheep heheh
22:21 tomyN hhm, in Firefox, right click properties, text language=german, wouldn't mind to change that
22:37 uriahheep hrm...
22:38 uriahheep is there an extension that checks for updates of all of the extensions that i'm imported?
22:39 uriahheep void: do you know of one?
22:44 lighty sometimes upgrading automatically can break your T3 installation
22:44 lighty so I don't think there's one
22:48 void uriahheep: there was one..
22:48 void ter_update_check
22:48 uriahheep hmm, cool
22:48 uriahheep void: was?
22:48 void is
22:48 uriahheep you mean that it's obsolete, or what?
22:48 uriahheep heheh ok cool :) thanks!
22:49 lighty isn't that hazardous ?
22:49 uriahheep lighty: well, this is a brand new install ;) nothing's on it yet, so it doesn't matter
22:49 void but this ext only check if updates available, and don't install them authomatically
22:49 lighty uriahheep then install directly the last versions
22:49 lighty void aah okey
22:49 lighty sure it doesn't install auto, it can break all the stuff ^^
22:50 uriahheep lighty: yeah, i just forgot to set "show unreviewed extensions" so i was stuck with the old templavoila, etc.
22:50 void i'd like that this ext. have button "update all", but he doesn't have..
22:50 void *it
22:50 uriahheep hmmm, oh well :P
22:50 uriahheep i'm sure there will only be like 5 extensions that i have to update anyway
22:51 tomyN lighty: You have your CSS in action at some URL, I'd like to see those background images you use. This is so cool ... and I am not easy to impress :P
22:51 tomyN those emoticons crack me up to
22:53 lighty look in your private, just sent you the link
22:55 uriahheep lighty: mm? can you link me to what he's talking about? ;)
22:56 lighty done
22:57 lighty he's talking about the menu
22:57 lighty the accordion effect
23:00 uriahheep lighty: accordion?
23:00 uriahheep as in, it stretches out with zigzags? :P
23:01 tomyN uriahheep: it's a drop down navigation
23:01 tomyN or menu
23:01 tomyN no zigzag
23:01 uriahheep ah
23:01 uriahheep ok
23:01 uriahheep sorry, i hadn't seen the notice :P
23:02 uriahheep it doesn't show up in the channel's window with irssi ;)
23:03 tomyN I am too stupid for irssi, using Colloguy instead
23:03 uriahheep heheh
23:03 uriahheep umm, i don't see any dropdowns, though :(
23:03 tomyN or Konversation in Linux, ..., right now on OSX
23:03 lighty called accordion
23:03 lighty tomyN use Snak
23:03 lighty it's not free, but damn cool
23:04 tomyN snak costs money, I am cheap
23:04 uriahheep heh
23:04 uriahheep "Ex-Chat"
23:04 tomyN after I bought my Powerbook I am brook
23:04 tomyN broke
23:04 lighty Xchat aqua is cool too
23:04 tomyN aargh
23:04 uriahheep irssi <3
23:04 lighty woah, sure, powerbooks aren't cheap :/
23:04 tomyN I live at Seabrook
23:04 tomyN gosh, confused ...
23:04 uriahheep lighty: so, where are the dropdown menus? :-/
23:04 lighty uriahheep click on Références
23:05 uriahheep k
23:05 tomyN I like it soo much, I am clicking on the links since 5 hours, better than DieHard 4
23:05 uriahheep btw, is this a quebec company?
23:05 uriahheep ohhhh
23:05 uriahheep nice :)
23:06 uriahheep is that code opensourced? ;D
23:06 lighty www.mootools.net
23:07 lighty you just saw an effect, there a lot more..
23:07 lighty just stop by mootools.net and take a deep breath
23:07 uriahheep heh, awesome. MIT
23:07 uriahheep ctrl+d
23:08 tomyN indeed, for example, the last visited link stays in the first level for a while
23:09 tomyN or not, perhaps my cache ...
23:09 uriahheep heheh
23:09 tomyN this is like TV
23:09 uriahheep lol
23:10 uriahheep so, how does this realurl autoconfiguration thing work?
23:11 lighty don't remember
23:11 lighty lol
23:11 uriahheep lol
23:11 lighty configured it, with a buch of luck
23:11 lighty although I've a problem for tt_news
23:11 lighty (take a look at the details page of a new)
23:11 lighty news*
23:11 uriahheep gotta love tt_news :P
23:12 uriahheep lighty: you mean on the site you linked me to?
23:12 lighty yeap
23:12 uriahheep detail/detail, eh?
23:12 lighty got a fscking "details/details/news-title.html"
23:12 lighty not cool
23:12 lighty yeah :/
23:12 uriahheep yeah... i've had things like that too
23:12 uriahheep it's hard to configure well
23:12 lighty how did you fixe that ?
23:12 lighty -e
23:12 uriahheep no idea
23:12 uriahheep :)
23:12 uriahheep i don't think i did, really
23:12 uriahheep haha
23:13 uriahheep just take detail out of the configuration ;)
23:14 lighty tried, got 404 errors
23:14 uriahheep that way, it'll just add the html file's path to the url... and, i suppose that your detailed news page is called detail, right? i mean, separate pages for the main news page and the full articles?
23:14 uriahheep hmm, i see...
23:15 lighty drove me crazy for about 2 hours
23:15 lighty at last, i prefered to let the thing as it is
23:15 lighty as long as it works, no problem
23:16 uriahheep heheh
23:24 tomyN lighty: on your site, second level, those little gifs in front of each 2nd level item: that's not ul#menu ul li ??
23:25 tomyN I can't read this from your site
23:28 lighty ul#menu ul li
23:28 lighty it's that
23:28 lighty using puce.gif
23:31 tomyN k, will try later again, perhaps I had a typo in the syntax :\
23:33 tomyN another thing: http://tghd.dyndns.org/quetzal/index.php?id=180 you click on second level, the active one is not bold and the intend isn't correct. Just a minor thing ... later
23:43 lighty check the ACT
23:43 lighty in the 2 {
23:44 lighty you should be able to fix it there
23:44 lighty ACT or CUR, I don't remember what one I used
23:44 lighty btw, probably CUR

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