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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Sunday 20 January 2008

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00:25 Denyerec Hah
00:25 Denyerec I don't even drink Tomy.
00:31 ries Denyerec: with about a movie with your gf?
00:32 Denyerec Just about to watch one now :)
00:33 ries at 12 midnight?
00:33 ries say hi to here....
00:33 ries and have a good time...
00:33 Denyerec Only twenty to ;)
00:33 Denyerec We were going to watch it earlier
00:33 Denyerec but one of our friends injured herself yeasterday, so we nipped around to see how she was doing and only just got back
00:33 ries Ahhh ok...
00:34 ries I have been working on Quercus (php in java... made some patches and testing typo3 on it
00:48 Denyerec That scares me.
00:48 Denyerec I heard SUN might want to re-write mysql in java...
00:48 Denyerec (WHYYYYY)
00:48 Denyerec Movietime!
01:06 tomyN hey ries!!!
01:07 ries hey tomyN
01:07 ries Denyerec: sun re-writing MySQL into java is the best idea :)
01:52 Denyerec ries - how on earth could re-writing anything performance critical in Java be a good idea?
03:51 ries Denyerec: how in the euth could you wriet something in PHP that is performance critical?
03:51 Denyerec MySQL isn't written in PHP
03:51 Denyerec it's written in C
03:52 ries Ahhh you talk about the MySQL thing...
03:52 Denyerec indeed
03:53 ries ever heard of derby ??
03:56 Denyerec Only the city
04:00 ries derby is a SQl server implemented in java
10:16 umc hello
10:16 umc anyone here uses the commerce extension ?
10:32 foool Hi umc I tried to but it is way beyond me, I gave up on it.
10:32 umc I got it working... I just need to make the category menu work
10:33 umc but it seems it's not a piece of cake :D
10:33 umc if you know german, I can give you a tutorial where it tells you how to set it up
10:42 foool i can understand german - where is it?
10:48 umc foool: http://www.sk-typo3.de/Shop-aufsetzen-mit-commerce-Quickt.286.0.html
10:48 umc it's very nice explained
10:48 umc I don't understand german :))
10:49 umc but I asked google to translate it :D
10:49 umc I just managed to get the category menu working too :D
10:49 umc I'm so happy...
10:49 umc just need to css it a bit
10:49 umc but that's the last of my worries
10:50 umc good luck with it if you want to give it a try...
10:50 umc I'm satisfied with it :)
10:57 foool thanks
10:57 foool I will try it
10:58 umc you're welcome
10:59 foool where you from?
10:59 umc Romania...
11:00 umc or if you check umc-away, amsterdam :P
11:00 foool I have romenian friends - would like to see there one time they say it is beautiful
11:02 foool i used to live in Amsterdam
11:02 foool and utrecht
11:03 umc my coleagues from amsterdam came here, all for the first time
11:03 umc they loved it
11:03 umc I live in Cluj-Napoca, the second city after Bucharest, as population and economy
11:03 umc the 'capital' of Transilvania
11:03 umc very nice people in this part of the country
11:03 umc wouldn't change it for anything in the world :)
11:04 umc I lived in Amsterdam for 7 months... it was very nice... but it's not home
11:06 foool They say Transilvania is lovely
11:06 foool dutch are not very sociable
11:09 umc I heard it too... my former boss was dutch :)
11:10 umc I didn't like him very much...
11:10 umc but yeah... it's deffinetelly worth comming here. I'm sure you'll enjoy it
11:10 umc and most young people speak english, so you wouldn't have problems getting along with people
11:12 foool dutch think more about money than friendship
11:13 umc well... everybody thinks about money... it's the modern man human condition
11:13 umc but yeah... socialising matters too
11:14 umc now I think there's some scandal between germans and romanians...
11:14 umc with the Nokia factory
11:15 foool really
11:15 umc I wrote you in private, so people wouldn't say we're offtopic :)
11:15 foool relocating or?
11:15 umc yeah, they're opening a new factory here, and they want to close a german one
12:55 roterguru hi
12:56 roterguru i have just downloaded typo3 and installed it, backend works fine, I have created some pages, but frontend shows only blank pages
13:00 roterguru i have just downloaded typo3 and installed it, backend works fine, I have created some pages, but frontend shows only blank pages
13:04 d|g hi all
13:05 roterguru > i have just downloaded typo3 and installed it, backend works fine, I have created some pages, but frontend shows only blank pages... why?
13:08 d|g it's normal
13:11 roterguru ?
15:51 titii helo guys
15:52 titii how to convert the typo3 bodytext into HTML tags? the typo3 use some own tags as LINK ... how to translate it from RTE into real tags? thanks
15:55 ShadowHunter in an extesion?
15:57 titii ShadowHunter yes
15:58 ShadowHunter i've found:
15:59 ShadowHunter $parseFunc = $TSFE->tmpl->setup['lib.']['parseFunc_RTE.'];
15:59 ShadowHunter if (is_array($parseFunc)) {
15:59 ShadowHunter $ret = $this->cObj->parseFunc($text, $parseFunc); }
16:00 titii thats all?
16:00 ShadowHunter i hope
16:00 ShadowHunter $text should be the rte-code :)
16:00 titii where did you found that?
16:00 ShadowHunter somewhere deep in the typo3-source...
16:00 ShadowHunter some weeks ago
16:06 titii ShadowHunter hmmm but i am using the fe_index.php for the AJAX stuff and there is not an instance for TSFE
16:14 del hi :)
16:15 del configuring my RTE, I have some classes a.foo which the user should be able to select. however the rte only shows span.foo in the dropdown menu, not a.foo...
19:04 isolysis which hosting companies are you guys using for typo3?
19:11 timdeluxe me & myself ltd.
19:11 timdeluxe *G*
19:18 isolysis hi timdeluxe , have a link?
19:18 isolysis oh wait
19:18 isolysis nm
19:18 isolysis i see now that you are kidding zzzzz]
19:20 timdeluxe true irony doesn't need smilies
19:20 timdeluxe :D
19:21 isolysis with a flamethrower!
19:22 isolysis man i should be working
19:22 isolysis yet so much to do, and yet feel so lazy
19:24 timdeluxe its sunday... thats normal
19:24 timdeluxe it will get over
19:24 timdeluxe (not on monday of course)
19:24 timdeluxe *G*
19:32 timdeluxe isolysis: seriously: i like to have the might over my webspace and projects
19:32 timdeluxe but there are many good typo3 webhosters out there
19:32 timdeluxe you should use someone who advertises with it
19:32 timdeluxe on normal webspaces you sometimes will get crazy to get typo3 running
19:33 isolysis yeah i know it will get pretty bad with shared hosters.. i have some dedicated servers, but they are part of the business.. and i am trying to get typo3 running for a friend for a personal project, and we need to get a cheap host
19:38 timdeluxe which country?
20:08 tuxick lo
20:08 tuxick is any of the forums any good?
20:08 tuxick the only 'stable' one is not rated and ancient
20:09 tuxick ah no, WEC isn't old
21:01 isolysis timdeluxe: country is not important, he is in USA, i am in UK
21:04 timdeluxe hm ok
21:04 timdeluxe but sometimes you have to make a contract...
21:04 timdeluxe i dont have an overview on the international market
21:05 timdeluxe it should be there (usa), so that it is fast for him
21:23 isolysis timdeluxe: well thanks for the tip, when you mentioned to search for hosting company that advertises support for typo3, this is actually a good idea as we can avoid compatibility issues and grief later..
21:24 isolysis i did a search online, and found a few cheap hosts
21:25 timdeluxe isolysis: should be self evident but no problem
21:26 timdeluxe i tried to get t3 running for a friend on a "normal" webspace
21:27 timdeluxe and i failed on ext manager and backend language update
21:27 isolysis timdeluxe: i was looking at a shared host that gave SSH access called bluehost and was going to go with them, but then you mentioned the thing about a company who explicitly endorses it and that made more sense.. plus many of these hosts are offering auto install via fantastico deluxe... do you think its maybe better to install manually or it makes no difference?
21:28 isolysis t3 without extensions would suck
21:31 timdeluxe what is fantastico?
21:31 timdeluxe i prefer installing it by myself
21:32 timdeluxe automatic installers often have older versions
21:32 timdeluxe pre-made configuration which you sometimes dont want and so on
21:32 timdeluxe depends on the quality of the pre-installer
21:38 timdeluxe seems to be a solution which several hosters are using... hmm
21:40 HardPhuck anyone using templateselector ext with automaketemplate?
21:40 HardPhuck i mean both of them in one site
21:41 timdeluxe isolysis: read http://drupal.org/forum/fantastico-de-luxe
21:42 timdeluxe isolysis: or http://digg.com/software/Beware_of_Fantastico_De_Luxe
21:42 timdeluxe i think: you should not use it *G*
21:43 isolysis timdeluxe: thanks for this, i had some doubts about fantastico, but this confirms it.. screw that, manual install is the way to go.. now we need to see if the hosting company will give SSH access to do it, lol
21:44 timdeluxe isolysis: you dont need ssh to install typo3
21:45 timdeluxe it makes it easier because of symlinks, but you can also install it without
21:45 isolysis no? i thought it was required for unix servers to do the unpacking etc
21:45 isolysis but isn't it a bad idea to make t3 without symlinks?
21:46 timdeluxe no
21:46 timdeluxe it makes updating a bit more difficult
21:46 isolysis yes that was my point
21:46 timdeluxe you should just use the zip instead of the tar package
21:47 timdeluxe but it is not soooo difficult to update
21:47 isolysis i am a bit weary of that.. /me is scared
21:47 timdeluxe because you only have to update the typo3 folder
21:47 timdeluxe thats all
21:47 isolysis i learnt to use junctions etc on windows and didn't want to learn about manual updates
21:48 timdeluxe ssh makes it much more easier... but you won't find many which have it
21:48 isolysis i thought there was also /typo3 admin folder and /t3lib which goes inside the typo3_src folder.. and that would probably need updates too
21:49 timdeluxe wait
21:49 timdeluxe ah ok
21:49 timdeluxe you are right
21:49 timdeluxe then you have to update these three
21:49 timdeluxe but one folder more or less
21:49 timdeluxe and index.php
21:50 timdeluxe if it changes
21:50 timdeluxe but hey, there arent so many updates of the core
22:06 HardPhuck i love typo3
22:07 HardPhuck just configured automaketemplate with templateselector
22:07 HardPhuck roxx
22:07 HardPhuck :)
22:11 HardPhuck now i just need to figure out how tmailform extension works
22:22 smeringe spread the love HardPhuck :P
22:22 HardPhuck no really, i have been working with t3 for about 2 years now
22:22 HardPhuck and with every project i learn a ton of new stuff
22:23 HardPhuck and get surprised by the fact that everything can be done :)
22:25 smeringe hehe. yah. I can agree, but on the same time it can be quite frustrating finding the solution (or maybe more; how to use the solution).. but I guess that's the case with most tools, especially the open sourced.
22:27 HardPhuck lol yes
22:27 HardPhuck like this one now, that im searching why my mac won't send phpmail with t3
22:28 HardPhuck you know what's most interesting
22:29 HardPhuck (this is an example) i made a website and charged 3k EUR for say 200hrs of work
22:30 HardPhuck but at some later time i made a website with same stuff (extensions, configuration), charged 4k EUR and only spend 100 hours, because i copy pasted stuff from the first sute
22:31 HardPhuck now here is a question, should i feel guilty? :)
22:31 smeringe no way :)
22:32 smeringe hehe.. so far I've mostly stuck with the first example.. :)
22:32 void me far away from even first..
22:34 HardPhuck 3k for a site is not that much
22:34 HardPhuck i mean, its nice money
22:34 smeringe no, 3k is not much
22:35 void depends on site and on country
22:35 HardPhuck but hey, not everyone can make a quality website
22:35 smeringe ..like HardPhuck
22:35 smeringe ;)
22:35 HardPhuck you gotta know how to sell your knowledge
22:36 HardPhuck look at this one
22:36 HardPhuck www.bf.uni-lj.si
22:36 HardPhuck i got about 3,5k
22:36 void yeah.. i'll be graduated at this summer. and then i should start to sell myself more expensive
22:36 HardPhuck im still a student
22:37 HardPhuck graduating this year too :)
22:37 HardPhuck i hope lol
22:37 smeringe :)
22:37 HardPhuck this site was made for the university i am studying at
22:37 HardPhuck has about 1500 subpages
22:38 HardPhuck design is disgusting but i didn't make it
22:38 HardPhuck this page was about 10k
22:39 void hehe.. i'll make site for university i am studying at too... but for free cause it will be my graduation work
22:39 HardPhuck me + crappy designer + PR (content) + project manager
22:39 HardPhuck lol i wanted the same thing but then i said to myself hey, money doesn't smell bad :)
22:40 HardPhuck i'll be graduating from fungi now LOL
22:42 HardPhuck fungi = mushrooms :)
22:43 HardPhuck am guys, is there anyway i could get rid of those crappy classes that css styled content adds to the source
22:43 HardPhuck i hate it
22:44 void yeah.. there is a way, but you need to review all css styled
22:44 void all = whole
22:45 HardPhuck crap
22:46 HardPhuck i hoped there would be some easier ways
22:50 HardPhuck anyways going to bed now 11PM here gotta get up early
22:50 HardPhuck have fun guys
22:50 HardPhuck night
23:41 uffi hey void :-)))
23:41 void hi uffi
23:41 uffi you are doing a university site deliberately?
23:42 void yes..
23:42 uschi believe me, you are crazy, at least as crazy as myself
23:42 uschi anyone working under windows here?
23:43 uschi i try to find out how to install find etc catdoc and xls2text
23:44 uschi i found a version from 2005
23:44 timdeluxe cygwin?
23:44 uschi what is that, timdeluxe
23:44 timdeluxe wait
23:45 timdeluxe *g*
23:45 timdeluxe i search a link
23:45 timdeluxe it is unix programms ported to windows
23:45 timdeluxe dont know if it is all in there
23:45 uschi ah, i remember
23:46 timdeluxe http://www.cygwin.com/
23:46 uschi do you use it, timdeluxe ?
23:46 timdeluxe sometimes
23:47 timdeluxe the problem is (or i didnt find it out all the way) that you start in the cygwin "filesystem"
23:47 timdeluxe and everyfile you want to deal with has to be there
23:47 uschi hm
23:47 uschi i simply want catdoc
23:47 timdeluxe or you have a complicated way to your real files
23:48 timdeluxe http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2006-08/msg00010.html
23:49 timdeluxe i think it is better to google by yourself than letting me giving you the results ;D
23:49 timdeluxe let & give
23:49 uschi true
23:49 timdeluxe english...
23:49 timdeluxe complicated language
23:49 timdeluxe *G*
23:49 uschi only for deluxe people
23:49 uschi do you use catdoc?
23:50 timdeluxe no. i even don't know what it is
23:51 timdeluxe aaah, now i understand
23:53 uschi it is needed by indexed search and dam index
23:54 timdeluxe yes, thats what i found out by using the big search machine :)
23:54 timdeluxe but i cant find a version for windows, too
23:54 uschi hm, i found one
23:54 uschi but it is old
23:55 timdeluxe do you need it for testing or are you setting up a productive installation under windows?
23:56 uschi testing, i am not completely crazy
23:57 timdeluxe hrhr

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