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00:00 goclimbing http://paste2.org/p/12367
00:00 goclimbing is there a "better" way to write that?
00:06 tomyN whois here?
00:07 tomyN What does this mean" #1045 - Access denied for user 'lego'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
00:07 goclimbing you used the incorrect password to log into mysql as the user lego
00:07 goclimbing or lego can't log in from localhost
00:08 tomyN I am so confused, wrote it all down, this is the setting for the database.
00:08 tomyN cookies enabled..
00:08 goclimbing cookies won't matter at all i don't imagine
00:08 goclimbing (since those params are loaded from the conf file)
00:10 tomyN I'll try and error ... totally scattered here, for other reasons. ..
00:10 tomyN Thansk
00:10 tomyN bye
00:20 Denyerec F****G CoMPUTERS YOU ShITTY pEiCES OF SHIT
00:21 tomyN lol
00:22 Denyerec Main HDD just failled
00:22 Denyerec why does this bullshit always happen to me
00:22 Denyerec good job my gf has a laptop else I wouldn't be able to order another one :(
00:22 tomyN I had the feeling the whole day, you are not alone
00:23 tomyN macs are shit too
00:23 tomyN but stylish shit
00:31 smeringe Denyerec : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRJf5SsIpW8
00:33 tomyN yo, need your professional advice: Could this page be transformed into a typo3 page? http://www.stromeyerconsulting.com/ lotsa JS in there!
00:35 smeringe tomyN, the js part you refer to is the meny thing right?
00:35 Denyerec Errr, in a word, yes.
00:35 Denyerec But I wouldn't WANT to translate it, not directly
00:35 Denyerec needs redesigning.
00:35 smeringe :)
00:36 Denyerec but yeah, don't see anything there that would cause any problems
00:36 smeringe neither do I
00:36 tomyN can be a pain in the ass!! It was one to begin with. I am not at the point that I could say how to do this.
00:40 tomyN templavoila?
00:40 smeringe I'm doing all my sites with TV..
00:40 tomyN hhm, I am using templates as a beginner, so far so good. Will need to learn a lot more
00:40 goclimbing so i'm attempting to add additional parameters to the query string in the url (eg index.php?id=1&extra_param=foo)
00:40 goclimbing once the page loads it resets the urls within the links in that page to not include the extra param
00:40 goclimbing anyone have any idea how I can write that extra param into the links within the page?
00:42 tomyN Denyerec: Did YOU tell me about CSSEdit?
00:43 tomyN It's soo helpful, Thanks!!!!
00:43 smeringe ..time for pillow huggings.. good luck with your HDD Denyerec. that sucks. anyway. good night all.
00:43 Denyerec yeah
00:43 Denyerec nifty prog huh
00:43 tomyN nighty
01:45 jayneward greetings. question on how to add a backend developer. how do i add permissions to update the root page? what's happening is that the user can log in, but clicking on Web->Page shows just "Reload the tree from server"
01:46 Denyerec ake their user account marked as "admin" should do it
01:46 Denyerec ?
01:46 jayneward i'm trying to follow from _building websites with typo3_ but it doesn't present any detail, just screenshots
01:48 jayneward i tried that and it worked. i'm wondering if there's a way without giving them the total admin power
01:48 jayneward i'll go the admin route if i have to but then i don't see how to limit the developers to individual domains
01:49 Denyerec Yeah
01:49 Denyerec You can create another user
01:49 Denyerec but you have to use the "access" module (Same place you click PAGE to edit pages) to make sure they have permissions to view the pages that you have so far created as an admin user
01:52 jayneward thanks - i see the [2] Edit content - that's probably what i'm looking for. is it right to assume that if i give permissions to the root they'll flow down to sub-pages?
01:53 pulponair hi there
01:54 Denyerec Mmm, I can't rememeer and as I am in the process of trying to recover from a HDD failure, I can't look for you.
01:55 pulponair Denyerec: : hey dude
01:55 Denyerec hey pulp
01:55 jayneward i'm stumped. i see only [root-level] on that page. maybe i'm missing a step and i need to create a root document as admin first, then assign permissions?
01:57 jayneward good luck w/that hard drive
02:00 jayneward hmm. adding a first page and granting permissions on that doesn't seem to help.
02:04 jayneward am i worrying about nothing? does everyone just use admin rights?
02:04 Denyerec hell no
02:05 Denyerec Lets say you create a new user
02:05 Denyerec and a new user group
02:05 Denyerec call him Bob and put him in the group "editors"
02:05 Denyerec you need to give the group editors a mount point to the root page
02:05 Denyerec (in the group setup)
02:05 Denyerec then you need to make sure the root page has the group "editors" set as its group parameter, and that group has permission to read and write.
02:06 Denyerec It works like a unix filesystem really
02:08 jayneward silly question - i've created the group. how can i go back and validate that i added the root page?
02:11 Denyerec ...
02:11 Denyerec not sure I understand
02:11 Denyerec if you have a rootpage, you'll see it in the tree
02:12 Denyerec so now go and edit the group and add a mountpoint for that group, make the mountpoint the rootpage
02:16 jayneward i was adding the wrong level to the mount point. instead of the root page, i added the container above. it let me select & save, but when i went back the entry was gone. using the root page and setting the access correctly works. thanks!
02:29 DenTop you're welcome
03:27 goclimbing how do you write additional params to a query string in a link in a rendered page?
03:28 goclimbing ?id=3&foo=bar
03:32 goclimbing *poke*
03:35 goclimbing man.... tough crowd tonight
03:35 goclimbing do i need to shower?
03:36 gerards hi everyone
03:38 goclimbing hi
04:07 goclimbing is there a typo3 forum that gets enough traffic to get some questions answered?
04:13 DenTop this one?
04:13 DenTop The mailling list is pretty responsive actually
04:13 DenTop which if you use Opera's mailclient to handle it, it's actually pretty nice.
04:13 DenTop I'd explain it in detail, but my Opera mail accounts and profile are..... on my dead drive.
04:13 DenTop (Which is now in the freezer)
04:14 goclimbing ahh
04:14 goclimbing i've yet to run across the mailing list
04:15 DenTop I gotta sleep
04:15 DenTop gnight guys
04:23 gerards goclimbing: here it is (in case you haven't found it)
04:23 gerards http://lists.netfielders.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
04:30 goclimbing grrrr... maybe we should be using mambo instead of this madness
04:53 gerards truly typo3 is maddening. :D
05:00 goclimbing to the point of ridiculous
05:00 goclimbing it shouldn't take 20 hours to write 16 lines of TScript
05:00 goclimbing and what amounts to 16 crappy lines of TScript at that
05:03 goclimbing ok thanks for the mailing list link
05:03 goclimbing they will grow to hate me
05:03 goclimbing i've hacked perl for 12 years, php for 5. I've never felt so fricking helpless and frustrated
05:21 gerards yeah, perl and php has many many more users that TS.
05:21 gerards I like TS. A lot. And my first year, I loathed it. :) just my 0.02
05:24 gerards compared to php, TS still sucks. mainly due to the debugging capabilities.
05:24 gerards or lack of.
05:24 gerards but its not fair to compair TS with php.
05:24 gerards :)
06:49 Nav hello all
06:54 Nav is there a way that i define a constant in the template record at a single place and i use that constant in every template record in each and every page
06:55 Nav means if i change only that constant at one position then its changed value will be effected on every page
06:55 Nav any body got a solution?
07:01 gerards I assume you're asking about TS configuration.
07:01 gerards yes you can set a TS constant.
07:01 gerards and all the subpages will use that constant
07:02 Nav i mean where do i set that constant
07:02 gerards distance = 300
07:02 Nav in template record of home page?
07:02 gerards then all pages below it will have distance = 300
07:02 gerards Nav yes I suggest you do that at the home page, so all pages below it will share that constant.
07:03 gerards if you edit the template record, there will be a "Constants" and a "Setup" field. you want to put it in the constants field.
07:03 Nav #cat=Website Setting;type=string;label=Domain URL
07:03 Nav myDomain.Content = http://localhost/Tom_Husler/
07:04 Nav i have put that in the constants field of home page
07:04 Nav it will be avaiale in every template records afterwards
07:04 Nav right??
07:04 gerards no you just need to put myDomain.Content = something
07:05 Nav hmmm
07:05 gerards [2:12pm] Nav: i
07:05 Nav ok i will try that
07:05 gerards myDomain.Content = http://localhost/Tom_Husler/
07:05 Nav and then i will access it in setup field using {$myDomain.Content}
07:05 gerards then in your template setup, you can reference your constant using {$myDomain.Content}
07:05 Nav right?
07:06 gerards yep.
07:06 Nav ok good
07:06 Nav let me try it
07:06 gerards test it.
07:06 gerards put "test = it works" in the constants field.
07:06 gerards then put this in your setup:
07:06 gerards page.1 = TEXT
07:06 gerards page.1.value = {$test}
07:07 gerards at the top of your page, it should display "it works"
07:08 Nav ok let me try it
07:09 Nav do i need to put the value in cosntants in quotes?
07:09 Nav "test = it works"
07:09 Nav or test = it works
07:17 Nav ok it worked
07:18 Nav i got a problem gerards
07:19 gerards go on.
07:19 gerards thanks for using my nickname. I'm working too, so I tend to ignore stuff.
07:19 Nav at one page i used an extension template
07:19 Nav on that base the constant value is not transferred
07:20 Nav <base href="{$DomainURL}" />
07:20 Nav it looks like this
07:20 Nav ohhhh i got it i think
07:20 gerards oh that's because the extension template is included before the main one.
07:21 gerards you can see the order of inclusion by using the BE->template->template analyzer
07:21 Nav actually i solved that
07:21 Nav i unchecked the clear constants field
07:21 Nav :)
07:21 gerards sweet.
07:22 gerards remember to use my nick, or I'll just ignore you :)
07:22 Nav sometimes i do some stupidity
07:22 Nav yah sure
07:22 Nav are u using chatzilla firefox extension?
07:23 gerards nope.
07:24 Nav also remember to use me nick also
07:24 Nav :)
07:41 Nav hello gerards
07:42 gerards hey wazzup?
07:42 Nav do u know which is the recommended location path where we should store our php scripts
07:42 Nav should it be in fileadmin/
07:42 Nav or something else?
07:43 Nav gerards ?
07:48 gerards yeah. you can put it in fileadmin.
07:49 gerards because then you can easily access it from the BE.
07:49 gerards but remember to use .htaccess to protect the directory.
07:49 gerards well.... he's gone.
07:50 Nav gerards u there?
07:51 gerards yeah. you can put it in fileadmin.
07:51 gerards because then you can easily access it from the BE.
07:51 gerards but remember to use .htaccess to protect the directory.
07:51 Nav hmmm ok
07:51 gerards of course if you don't want the php script to be easily accessed from the BE, then put it somewhere else.
07:51 gerards if you put it some where else, you MIGHT need to change something in the install script.
07:52 Nav :S
07:52 Nav why??
07:52 Nav i think it has nothing to do with the install scripts
07:52 Nav its my own custom based php scripts
07:52 gerards because typo3 protect certain directories. like i said, you might not need it.
07:53 gerards just write it down somewhere, so you don't bang your head against the wall when you DO need it.
07:53 Nav can i create a new folder named media/scripts and put all my php scripts there
07:53 gerards yes you can.
07:53 Nav coz in the examples i found on the web i found this url
07:53 Nav i though this ight be the best practice in typo3
07:53 Nav might
07:53 gerards alright then. do it there.
07:54 gerards if you find that your scripts aren't excecuting, check the install script "all configuration"
07:54 gerards search for "[FE][addAllowedPaths] "
07:54 Nav hmmm
08:31 smeringe Hi folks. I got a problem with sr_language_menu together with realurl and IE. It doesn't change language in ie :S works with FF. Anyone?
08:35 smeringe ascch.-. got to go.. cya
09:03 HardPhuck crap, the newest news calendar also has a bug in it
10:06 NublaII I'm using the tx_indexedsearch on a spanish site
10:07 NublaII using a 3.81 install
10:07 NublaII I can't get it to search accents and other weird chars...
10:07 NublaII any way of fixing that?
10:32 Nav hello all
10:33 Nav anyone plz visit this website http://ahs.42-morrow.de/
10:33 Nav i m having prblme with the redirection
10:33 Nav once u click on the swf file you will be redirected to the home page again
10:34 Nav it seems it has to do with .htaccess
10:34 Nav i m using realURL
10:36 Randomresult hi
10:36 Nav anyone got an idea how to solve this?
10:36 Randomresult anyone knows if conditions work in constants too?
10:45 Nav hello anyone?
10:48 RaKi Nav: can't help you. sry
10:48 RaKi Randomresult: yes they do
10:48 Nav :(
10:52 Randomresult raki: great!
11:23 Nav have anybody faced the problem of URLs like this not working if they are like this http://ahs.42-morrow.de/profil/
11:23 Nav and working if they are like this http://ahs.42-morrow.de/profil
11:23 Nav the problem is with the ending slash
11:23 Nav i m using realURL
11:24 Nav its working fine on my local pc
11:24 Nav but the ending slash is creating problem on the live server
11:31 Nav can i make it work both with ending slash and not with ending slash??
11:38 Nav anyone got a solution?
11:46 isolysis Nav:
11:46 maholtz @nav: afaik that has something to do with your server setup
11:47 Nav how?
11:47 Nav i dont get it
11:48 isolysis in your realurl conf where is says enablechashcaceh
11:48 isolysis you need to add on a new line 'appendMissingSlash' => 'ifNotFile',
11:48 Nav i have already added that
11:49 isolysis has something to do with your .htaccess file then maybe
11:50 Nav RewriteRule .* /index.php
11:50 Nav no sorry
11:50 Nav RewriteRule .*/ index.php
11:50 Nav this is the rule
11:51 Nav it only works properly if trialing slash is added to the url
11:51 Nav and if i write this RewriteRule .* index.php
11:51 Nav then it only works if no traliing slash is found
11:53 Nav can we write a rule which works with both when trailing slash is added or when trailing slash is not addedd
11:53 Nav ?
11:54 isolysis try this: RewriteRule .*$ /index.php
11:56 Nav i tried
11:56 Nav but it only worked if trailing slash is not found
11:57 isolysis this is a question for #apache
12:30 stanman hi could anyone help me a little bit with the direct_mail extension? I'm getting invalid agruments at supplied for foreach() in class.t3lib_refindex.php after installing
13:22 b0li does anybody know how email_replyto "mailformplus" works? version 4.03
13:39 Nav i am using realURL will defaultToHTMLsuffixOnPrev=0 but i dont want the trailing slash at the end
13:40 Nav whats the best way of doing it?
13:40 _maGe got a problem with Calendar Base:
13:41 _maGe on the one list view it shows recurring events
13:41 _maGe on the other view it doesnt show recurring events
13:42 _maGe the difference between these two list views is: one is configured by the backend flexforms, the other is configured by typoscript
13:42 _maGe but i havent found any constant like "showrecurringevents"
13:42 _maGe or something like that
13:42 _maGe any ideas?
13:53 Nav solshark: have u worked on realURL?
13:53 solshark Hello all
13:53 solshark Nav: Yep, but i dunno how remove trailing slashes ;)
13:53 Nav :(
13:53 Nav i am having problems in links
13:54 Nav http://ahs.42-morrow.de/startseite please check this
13:54 Nav but when u put an ending slash http://ahs.42-morrow.de/startseite/
13:54 Nav it will go to the home page
13:55 fred^^ in TV, my non-admin user is not able to unlink elements
13:55 fred^^ is this standard?
13:57 fred^^ never mind
13:58 fred^^ found the bug report
14:41 proTypo3 uagliù!
14:42 proTypo3 HI!
14:43 proTypo3 anybody here?
14:43 proTypo3 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
14:44 pempem Hi all
14:44 pempem I'm wondering if it's possible to add a review level in the Typo3 level.
14:45 pempem There are 3 level in the workflow but I need a fourth one. Is it a convenient way to do it? Or any extension to tune that?
14:46 proTypo3 we are some italian students
14:46 proTypo3 and we are looking for typo's developers!!!
14:46 proTypo3 for any questions
14:48 proTypo3 pempen!!
14:49 pempem I'm sorry, I'm in an emergency with a workspace question
14:49 pempem also looking for help :)
14:49 pempem this irc chan seems pretty much dead
14:50 proTypo3 u r right!
14:50 proTypo3 :-(..
14:51 ries proTypo3: I though that students need to study and do it themselfe :D
14:52 proTypo3 ries..thanks
14:55 proTypo3 kasper
14:55 proTypo3 ?
14:55 ries No, it's Ries...
14:56 proTypo3 huahauha merry Xmas!
14:57 proTypo3 si, come no
14:57 proTypo3 ma al pick up
14:57 proTypo3 li vendono e kinder pinguì?
15:01 floxx i use realurl and 2 pages have the same name, so i get a 404 error. hw can i prevent that?
15:15 ries floxx: are these two pages on the same level?
15:16 floxx ries: no...in the meanwhile i guess its not the same name because other pages don't work too
15:16 ries indeed.. must be something else
15:16 floxx yep
15:16 ries check your rewrite rules
15:19 drindt hi
15:20 floxx ries: updated realurl 1.1.4->1.2.1 - now it works :)
15:24 ries floxx: good...
15:27 geminyke haloooooooooooooooooooooo
15:28 geminyke is there any other type of cms vendors aside typo3
15:31 geminyke ping the
15:36 isolysis there are hundreds of other cms scripts
15:37 isolysis literally hundreds
15:37 isolysis all bollox
15:50 ries hey gerards
15:51 gerards Ries!!!!!
15:52 gerards how're you doing pal....
15:52 ries Not to bad... and you?
15:53 gerards not bad. God's been good. Its going to be the Chinese New Year in a couple of weeks. :)
15:53 animan hi
15:53 gerards year of the Rat.
15:53 gerards hi animan.
15:56 animan i'm trying to make a HMENU where first and last menu items are wrapped differently, is it even possible?
15:58 animan i tried wrap = <div id="mainNavigation-1st">|</div>|*|<div id="mainNavigation">|</div>|*|<div id="mainNavigation-last">|</div>
15:58 animan but it ended up really nasty
16:00 ries gerards: year of the rat... good to know :) How will that affect you? :)
16:06 gerards ries: It won't affect me. Just thought you'd want to know! :D
16:06 ries gerards: isn't there a year of the bunny rabit? That sounds much more sweet to me
16:06 gerards yeah. I'm a rabbit.
16:07 gerards animan: that's sounds right. but remember its TMENUITEM that has the option split property. not Hmenu.
16:08 Jaykob hi, has anyone here used the smoothgallery extension out of his/her own extension?
16:15 animan oh
16:16 NublaII how does the 'Sounds like' part of the indexed search work?
16:18 NublaII I have a spanish site and I'd like to make sure users can search with or without accents
16:18 NublaII and it works almost perfect except for the letter 'i'
16:35 goclimbing i need to have all the <a links in my rendered page have additional query params added to them - id=1&new_param=foo
16:35 goclimbing anyone know how to do this?
16:54 goclimbing man... i tell you... every time I ask my question you can hear a pin drop around here :)
17:06 Denyerec hhaha
17:07 Denyerec nature / goclimbing
17:07 Denyerec pm fella
17:13 goclimbing *poke*
17:17 goclimbing pm?
17:23 dotx hello
17:24 dotx I'm looking for a hook of tt_news who can embedded mutiple date of validation ? someone can help me ?
17:48 JAZNC I am evaluating Typo3 for a new project and I have a simple question: Is there a feature (or add-on module) that supports a structured product database? For instance, can I have hundreds of products that are added to a product database and these products dynamically show up on my Typo3 powered site?
17:51 solshark JAZNC: tt_products, commerce, google ;)
17:52 tokam_one hi
17:52 tokam_one why do i might get that error?
17:52 tokam_one http://www.kulturtrialog.de/typo3/install/index.php
17:54 timdeluxe tokam_one: check apache error log
17:55 timdeluxe perhaps permissions are not ok
17:55 timdeluxe or you are using a not allowed option in htaccess / vhost config
18:03 tokam_one mhh
18:03 tokam_one how to do that
18:03 tokam_one i have no shell account
18:03 NublaII I'd like to make sure users can search with or without accents on the site (spanish)
18:03 NublaII any idea on how to allow that?
18:05 tokam_one timdeluxe: how which chmod must be set for install tool?
18:05 timdeluxe depends on php installation
18:06 timdeluxe with mod_php it must be readable by the webserver
18:06 timdeluxe so at least others need read
18:07 timdeluxe or group/user needs to be set to www-data/wwwrun, but you seem to have a shared webhosting account
18:07 timdeluxe you can set permissions by ftp
18:16 JAZNC Is Localisation a built in feature of Typo3?
18:17 koomi jep
18:17 JAZNC for instance www.mysite.com/de/article1 and www.mysite.com/en/article1 would be the 'same article' but in different languages.
18:17 koomi jep. if you configure realurl and the language handling
18:25 tokam_one what to set up in the _.htacces file of typo3's install tool?
18:29 timdeluxe tokam_one: in normal cases nothing
18:29 timdeluxe and if that _ is still in front it isnt active
18:29 tokam_one if i go the path from server root it works
18:29 tokam_one the web server root is linked to test.kulturtrialog.de
18:30 tokam_one http://test.kulturtrialog.de/typo3_src-4.1.5/typo3/install/index.php
18:30 tokam_one works
18:30 tokam_one die i have in for extra
18:30 tokam_one http://kulturtrialog.de/typo3_src/typo3/install/index.php
18:30 tokam_one does not work
18:31 timdeluxe as i already said: it has to do with permissions or wrong apache options
18:31 timdeluxe check your logs!
18:31 tokam_one where to find the logs?
18:32 timdeluxe did you recieve my query?
18:32 tokam_one i have no server autentification so i cant answer join #marburg
18:32 tokam_one i reseaved it
18:32 tokam_one recieved
18:33 timdeluxe hrhr i didnt invite you to marburg
18:33 timdeluxe i sended you a pm, but if you arent registered you cant recieve it
18:34 timdeluxe where the logs are depends on server configuration
18:34 goclimbing if you are wondering... yes... there is an echo in here....
18:34 goclimbing goclimbing: i need to have all the <a links in my rendered page have additional query params added to them - id=1&new_param=foo
18:34 goclimbing goclimbing: anyone know how to do this?
18:34 timdeluxe my glass bowl is defect at the moment
18:36 tokam_one i recieved the pm but if you want a private conversation you have to /join #marburg because i can not answer to pms on that server
18:59 goclimbing any good typo3 developers looking for immediate contract work?
18:59 proTypo i'm looking for one typo's develop....
19:00 proTypo i'm a student....i've any questions
19:00 proTypo anybody's here?
19:01 goclimbing i just repeated my question - it seems to put them to sleep so good luck :)
19:02 dokma goclimbing: serious about that offer?
19:02 proTypo i'm agree
19:02 goclimbing yeah
19:11 proTypo goodnight....
19:36 void hooh.. last exam passed
19:44 dokma void: what you studying ?
19:44 void dokma: last exam was about cryptography
19:45 dokma IT ?
19:45 void yes
19:45 dokma where?
19:45 void penza state technological academy =)
19:47 dokma hmm
19:47 dokma can't say I heard of penza state
19:47 dokma where is that?
19:47 void in Russia
19:48 void mid-size city..
19:48 dokma Russia! man!
19:49 void what? :)
19:50 timdeluxe #typo3 is international :)
19:54 dokma well, Russia kind of evokes some ugly memories
19:54 dokma dictatorship and similar stuff
19:54 dokma it's not a pretty image that we get to see over here
19:55 dokma of Russia
19:55 void all is not so good, but no so bad =)
20:51 proTypo Hi....I'm a student..and i'm looking for a typo's develop....
20:51 proTypo for my reserarch...i need help
20:54 proTypo what do you thing about other CMS...why I should choose typo3??????
20:55 Denyerec No other CMS gives you as large an e-penis.
20:55 timdeluxe wuhahahha
20:55 timdeluxe you made my day
20:59 proTypo ma vafangoul a mamt
21:00 proTypo but what kind of chat is this????
21:00 goclimbing and no other CMS makes you want to club a baby seal
21:00 proTypo mah
21:01 proTypo i study at Univeristy...and i'm not a baby....
21:02 proTypo i think that you don't understand nothing...
21:03 goclimbing for what it's worth... Typo3 chose me
21:03 goclimbing the company i work for was already using it
21:03 roadrunn1r other cms have other extensions - like shibboleth - i realy miss it on typo3
21:03 goclimbing at times it's a powerful system
21:03 goclimbing other times it makes you want to beat your head against a wall
21:03 goclimbing i'm just glad sheet rock mud is a write off as I have patched many a hole in the wall
21:06 proTypo I know yaht the other cms have the other extensions, are different.....I wanted a more expert opinion
21:12 proTypo goclimbing...you have try one of other CMS, Drupal or Joomla, or Mambo'
21:15 goclimbing i worked with mambo a little bit
21:16 proTypo and what do you think about...????
21:16 Denyerec mambo is a bag of toss
21:16 Denyerec joomla too
21:16 Denyerec OK if you wanna do things their way, and only their way
21:16 goclimbing i wasn't impressed
21:16 void all CMSes i saw is shit.
21:16 goclimbing but i also didn't spend much time with any of those
21:16 void typo3 just suck little bit less
21:16 goclimbing my job requires i work with t3
21:17 Denyerec What the hell is shiboleth ?
21:17 goclimbing one thing i did not and like about mambo was it sure seemed a hell of a lot easier to integrate custom code
21:17 goclimbing perl code
21:18 Denyerec the reason its eay to integrate your own ode with mambo is because mambo is just a collection of loosly affiliated scripts and ideas
21:18 goclimbing yup
21:18 goclimbing so if you can work your way around the back end mess....
21:18 goclimbing :)
21:18 Denyerec last time I worked with it was 2 years ago, mind, but it was such a shocking mess then that I doubt without restarting from scratch that theyd have managed to clean it up
21:18 goclimbing yeah... so it's a pick your poison mentality
21:19 goclimbing and right now i'm choking on T3 poison... i think it is arsenic based.
21:19 Denyerec its not all bad
21:19 goclimbing 20 hours later I have 16 lines of cool code written
21:19 goclimbing i know
21:19 Denyerec soon as I get my PC back up I'll be another set of eyes
21:20 goclimbing but i shouldn't have to pull my hair out like this to do a simple job like add additional parameters to a query string in a link
21:20 proTypo i write yours consideration.....
21:20 Denyerec Did you check out the site I sent you nature
21:20 proTypo :P
21:20 goclimbing i've checked out so many recently
21:21 goclimbing right now i am going through the t3 book one page at a time hoping something bites me in the ass and allows me further progress
21:21 goclimbing and i sheeesh... that query string has to be an array that you can populate, no?
21:22 Denyerec goclimbing - the welsh site
21:22 Denyerec check out the behaviour of the "text only" site
21:22 Denyerec tell me if that's what you want
21:22 Denyerec brb
21:23 goclimbing i don't have the url any longer i don't think
21:23 Denyerec www.welshlawawards.com
21:23 Denyerec brb
21:24 proTypo do you know Drupal?
21:25 proTypo and what do you think about opensource CMS?
21:26 void proTypo: drupal have some features that typo3 lack. but it lack security which is strong side of typo3. also, they are for different things. drupal for blogs, communities, "web20", etc., typo3 - for big sites with a lot of content and not so big count of authors
21:27 proTypo void:thanks a lot
21:27 proTypo you are my sunshine....
21:28 void =)
21:28 void will you use typo3 or drupal?
21:28 proTypo today I've installed Typo3...
21:29 proTypo I'm a student....at University...Information Techonolgy and I'm doing a research about Typo3
21:30 void i'm too.
21:30 proTypo and I'm looking for the comparision about other CMS
21:31 void my dimploma work will be building my academy's site using TYPO3
21:31 proTypo wow...
21:31 goclimbing this is cool. in the T3 book they describe how to make an extension in 20 minutes. Only problem... under Extension Manager there is apparently no 'make new extension' feature as described per the book.
21:31 goclimbing joy
21:31 void goclimbing: install "kickstarter" extension.
21:31 void and it will appear
21:32 void proTypo: and yes, i will write a paragraph about comparison..
21:32 proTypo mmm...
21:32 goclimbing cool
21:32 goclimbing figures
21:32 proTypo cool
21:32 goclimbing so they mean 22 minutes :)
21:33 void proTypo: but i will write that paragraph on the language, different from english and german ;)
21:33 proTypo what language?
21:33 void russian
21:33 proTypo nooooooo
21:33 proTypo :(
21:33 void what?
21:33 proTypo i don't understand russian
21:34 void you may try to use google translate...
21:34 void but anyway, i'll write that in 2 month
21:34 void maybe that's too long for you
21:35 proTypo exactly....
21:35 proTypo i need the comparision this week
21:37 goclimbing oh lookie there... make new extension. thanks :)
21:38 proTypo void:thanks...
21:39 void so... your comparision will be: "joomla is shit, drupal is for web20 and lack security, typo3 is a big beast for big sites but too complicated, wordpress is only for blogs. all cms'es are bad. so, i'll learn python and write my own on django" =)
21:40 proTypo django????
21:40 proTypo what does it means?
21:40 void it's python-powered framework.
21:40 proTypo ok....pardon
21:41 void like RoR, but better =)
21:41 proTypo thanks...
21:41 proTypo :)
21:41 void need to sleep.. good night, guys
21:41 proTypo i'm a girl...
21:41 proTypo goodnight
21:42 void oh, sorry
21:42 proTypo ;)
21:42 void good night, ladies and gentelments
21:44 proTypo kasper.....how are you?
21:44 proTypo where are you?
21:47 proTypo bye bye typo's world
21:48 goclimbing good luck
21:49 proTypo thanks
22:52 goclimbing i would give my first born to figure out how to get tt_news categories to start working
22:53 goclimbing or owe someone a six pack :)
22:53 goclimbing since chances are i won't be having children any time soon
22:59 goclimbing and a sack of kind bud
23:14 HardPhuck hm if i install quixplorer 1.6.0 it works okay, but if i install 1.7.0 then i get unable to open directory when clicking the icon, changing settings doesn't help

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