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00:10 pmk65 jameelsandham1: You can run the Install tool, and create a new Admin user, then you should be able to change the pw of the 1st admin account.
00:31 jameelsandham1 how do i run the install tool if i cant get into theb ackend?
00:54 jameelsandham1 how do i run install tool without going into the backend?
01:00 jameelsandham1 anyone?
01:03 pmk65 jameelsandham1: http://www.yourdomain.com/typo3-4.1/typo3/install/
01:15 jameelsandham1 thnaks
01:16 jameelsandham1 can u send that again please
01:16 jameelsandham1 i had to refresh chat :(
01:22 jameelsandham1 ok, once ive gone onto install tool, how do i make new admin account?
01:30 jameelsandham1 basically, i think i somehow un knowingly changed my password, or someone else has hacked into my site and done it, how do i reset my password?
01:32 jameelsandham1 anyone?
01:34 jameelsandham1 is there any way to recover lost username and password?!
01:35 jameelsandham1 someone must know?
01:36 timdeluxe backend?
01:36 timdeluxe install tool?
01:36 jameelsandham1 backend
01:37 timdeluxe admin user?
01:37 timdeluxe http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Faq/Reset_BE_password
01:37 jameelsandham1 thanks
01:40 jameelsandham1 thnaks a bunch :):):)
01:44 timdeluxe no prob
01:44 timdeluxe you are not the only one who had that problem *G*
01:49 jameelsandham1 ive been having many problems with typo3 lately, its so complicated :(
01:49 jameelsandham1 it better be worth it in the long run :)
01:52 jameelsandham1 why do i get a message telling me the install tool cant be found on my server :S
01:53 jameelsandham1 i thaught the install tool comes with typo3 install?
01:56 timdeluxe is it a 404/403 or a simple text message?
01:57 jameelsandham1 i think i need to remove die function
01:58 jameelsandham1 im on my install.php. what exactly do i do to remove the die function?
02:00 jameelsandham1 i meen index.php
02:00 jameelsandham1 how do i remove die function of install tool on index.php?
02:00 jameelsandham1 just delete the line of text?
02:03 jameelsandham1 its ok i figured it out myself
02:37 jameelsandham1 Warning: mysql_fetch_row(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource
02:37 jameelsandham1 what does that mean?
02:39 jameelsandham1 anyone?
02:45 jameelsandham1 ok ill try later when someones got time, bye for now
12:23 koomi moin
12:26 titii helo there
12:46 Randomresult good morning
12:46 Randomresult :)
12:54 Randomresult i have the following problem: when i am logged in the backend, i can normally browse the goeffotobook, if i log out, i get a "post var..." error
12:54 Randomresult someone knows this prob?
13:33 Randomresult someone can tell me whats wrong with this?
13:33 Randomresult http://phpfi.com/287405
13:49 m0oman moo.
13:49 Randomresult hi moo
13:50 Randomresult :)
13:50 Randomresult do u know how i can get the url of a site (including paremeters/variables) in ts?
13:51 Randomresult news/details/archive/2007/november/11/test-news/index.htm
13:51 Randomresult i need all this
13:52 Randomresult when i am at www.mydomain.de/news/details/archive/2007/november/11/test-news/index.htm
14:07 Randomresult someone ever worked with this?
14:07 Randomresult http.keep
14:09 Randomresult with makelink?
14:21 jochke Anyone who has succeded to get typo3 to auth frontusers up against a openldap server?
14:22 jochke And have some time to answer some questions. :)
14:24 Randomresult jochke : nope sorry
14:28 jochke How do I get "Better login-box" to use the ldap plugin to auth?
14:33 Randomresult maybe there is an extension for that.
14:34 Randomresult how so i get the actual url with into ts?
14:34 Randomresult :)
14:35 jimmisandham1 has anyone used the yaml ext before?
14:39 Randomresult jimmisandham1: not with typo3 sorry
14:46 jimmisandham1 ok np, im having so much troube learning how to impliment templates :(
14:55 m0oman moo.
15:10 maholtz hi
15:11 maholtz i thougt i should get an answer from the bot? as on typo3.org/community/irc-chat described - any hints?
15:16 Randomresult maybe a privatmessage
15:16 Randomresult whos the bot?
15:18 Randomresult /msg Number-5 h!
15:19 Randomresult :)
15:28 jimmisandham1 i dont think the bot works :S
16:03 jimmisandham1 has anyone worked with any other CMS than typo3?
16:12 t-mow his
16:12 t-mow :>
16:12 jimmisandham1 his own cms?>
16:13 t-mow yep
16:13 t-mow typo3 makes me sick, just have to use it @ work
16:13 t-mow -.-
16:15 jimmisandham1 well, please make your one as user friendly as pie :)
16:15 jimmisandham1 and no TS
16:15 jimmisandham1 just WYSIWYG :D
16:16 jimmisandham1 copy and paste templates, with auto config! :D
16:16 jimmisandham1 thatd be the day :)
16:20 t-mow all planned ;)
16:27 jimmisandham1 how long u think it will take till u got an alpha ver going?
16:51 Randomresult someone around who succeed in making goefotobook work with realUrl?
18:07 jimmisandham1 where do i allow myself to copy directiories?>
18:07 jimmisandham1 how do i set it up, to allow copy directoriees in fileadmin?
18:09 jimmisandham1 got it thanks
18:10 Jessica_ Hello people, happy new year!!!
18:10 Jessica_ A new year with typo3 problems ;)
18:12 Jessica_ Is someone familiar with tt_products?
18:15 jimmisandham1 no sory
18:15 jimmisandham1 and happy new year to you too
18:15 Jessica_ Thank you
18:15 jimmisandham1 typo3 does bring alot of problems :(
18:16 jimmisandham1 i suck at it :L
18:17 Jessica_ Yeah it brings a lot of problems with the extensions
18:21 koomi jimmisandham1: check user admin > $your_user
18:22 koomi "user admin"?
18:22 koomi what's the module called again?
18:25 jimmisandham1 its ok ive done it koomi
18:25 jimmisandham1 thanks
18:29 jimmisandham1 anyone wana recoomend an easy CMS that i can learn in a day please :):)
18:29 jimmisandham1 LOL
18:36 jimmisandham1 do peope actually understand typoscritpt setup? or do they just find thta they need, put it in and there we go?
18:40 jimmisandham1 can someone explain what is meant by "wrapped"? its avery newbie question but i think i am unsure
18:43 timdeluxe jimmisandham1: just what the word says. it "wraps" something. usually a | is the part which is wrapped
18:43 timdeluxe so if there is a <div> | </div> then a html-div-element is wrapped around the "whatever"
18:50 jimmisandham1 hmm thats slightly clearer thanks
18:51 jimmisandham1 so why do we need to wrap it around the "whatever"
19:01 timdeluxe jimmisandham1: hm, can you give more details what you question aims at?
19:13 jimmisandham1 well im going through MTB
19:13 jimmisandham1 and it keeps talking about "wrapping sub parts"
19:13 jimmisandham1 but i duno what wrapping means exactly
19:18 timdeluxe give me the link and i explain it to you
19:19 jimmisandham1 one second please
19:20 jimmisandham1 http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_templselect/0.1.0/view/1/3/#id3040801 its a big page, alot u will have to explain
19:20 jimmisandham1 this is parts i dont understand ::
19:20 jimmisandham1 a) the element <body> should be wrapped with the subpart marker "###DOCUMENT_BODY###"
19:20 jimmisandham1 b) the element <head> should be wrapped with the subpart marker "###DOCUMENT_HEADER###". Further any <title> sections should be removed. (We don't want the <title> tag from Raphaels template replicated in our TYPO3 pages...)
19:20 jimmisandham1 c) All <td> elements found should be wrapped - but since no .subpartMarker value was defined only <td>-tags with a "id" or "class" attribute will be wrapped and then in a subpart marker corresponding to the id/class value. Thus the tag <td id="menu_1"> will have the content inside of it wrapped in the subpart markers "<!--###menu_1###-->...<!--###menu_1###-->".
19:23 jimmisandham1 what does it mean when "the element <body> is wrapped with subpart etc, i dont understand what they are saying
19:25 timdeluxe just a moment...
19:29 timdeluxe ah now i've got it
19:29 timdeluxe here it has a different meaning
19:29 timdeluxe its not the wrapping i explained above
19:30 timdeluxe you must see the very old way of making templates... in old times you did put html comments into the html file to mark the parts typo3 should work on
19:31 timdeluxe here the autoparser does that work
19:33 jimmisandham1 so now you dont need to put ### mark comments ###?
19:35 timdeluxe so you only have to make a html template with correct html elements and perhaps some id=... things and doesnt have to use the html-comment-markers any more
19:35 timdeluxe exactly
19:35 timdeluxe but:
19:35 jimmisandham1 but?
19:35 timdeluxe the other things need still these markers or subparts the can work on
19:36 timdeluxe so the autoparser automatically inserts the markers
19:36 timdeluxe as you can see in the screenshots
19:36 timdeluxe so <body> is wrapped with the markers, which means that the markers are automatically inserted where the body html elements are
19:37 timdeluxe the marker is called "DOCUMENT_BODY"
19:37 timdeluxe later in the typoscript this marker is used to substitute it
19:37 timdeluxe -> workOnSubpart = DOCUMENT_BODY
19:38 jimmisandham1 what do you meen by substitute it?
19:38 jimmisandham1 turns that area into a content element?
19:38 timdeluxe take a look at the typoscript which is below
19:39 timdeluxe first there is that "workOnSubpart = DOCUMENT_BODY"
19:39 jimmisandham1 i have,yes
19:39 timdeluxe so
19:39 timdeluxe above the autoparser is told to use all the TD elements
19:40 timdeluxe so you can use all the id's of the <td>s
19:40 jimmisandham1 one sec
19:40 timdeluxe e.g. subparts.content = TEXT
19:41 timdeluxe if you look in the basic html source you see an <td id="content">
19:41 timdeluxe above the autoparser is told to use all the TD elements --> "TD.all = 1"
19:42 jimmisandham1 yes, but use them for what?
19:42 timdeluxe in the first step of the tut only to put a "HELLO WORLD" there
19:42 timdeluxe subparts.content = TEXT
19:42 timdeluxe subparts.content.value = HELLO WORLD - CONTENT
19:43 timdeluxe later in the tut that part is changed to get the real content
19:43 timdeluxe -> subparts.content < styles.content.get
19:44 jimmisandham1 so later in the tut, the subparts.content gets changed into a content element?
19:45 timdeluxe yes
19:45 timdeluxe look at the last line i typed :)
19:48 jimmisandham1 ok, just to clarify, if u use the autoparser ext then in my html template i dont need to define ###content### etc?
19:49 jimmisandham1 beacuse the ext autoparser does it for me?
19:51 timdeluxe exactly
19:51 timdeluxe instead of that you use the id attribute
19:51 timdeluxe for body and head you dont need it but for other elements
19:52 timdeluxe and if you look at FTB you dont even need that id markers (only for css if you need it)
19:53 timdeluxe (but perhaps i am wron)
19:53 timdeluxe g
19:54 duke83 Hi there
19:55 duke83 Is there a possibilty to change the quality in $this->cObj->IMAGE? And when, do I have to change the settings of image-magick in the localconf.php (through Install-Tool)
19:58 jimmisandham1 can you please discribe the diffrerence of a class and id tag please?
20:01 timdeluxe jimmisandham1: hm it mostly has to do with css
20:01 timdeluxe in css class is defined like .something
20:01 timdeluxe an id is defined with #something
20:03 timdeluxe its difficult to describe
20:03 timdeluxe i would say that you should use id to mainly structure a document logically (e.g. with div elements)
20:04 timdeluxe while you use class only for formatting purposes
20:04 timdeluxe mainly
20:04 timdeluxe if course you can format id's in css too
20:05 timdeluxe its too far to explain it detailled and it's not typo3 only stuff... there are thousands of explanations out there, just search a bit
20:06 jimmisandham1 thanks
20:40 jimmisandham1 # Substitute the ###content### subpart with some example content:
20:40 jimmisandham1 subparts.content = < styles.content.get
20:40 jimmisandham1 }
20:40 jimmisandham1 # Substitute the ###content### subpart with some example content:
20:40 jimmisandham1 subparts.content = < styles.content.get
20:40 jimmisandham1 }
20:40 jimmisandham1 i used
20:40 jimmisandham1 but my site doesnt get contnet?
20:40 jimmisandham1 content-
20:40 jimmisandham1 sory for doube paste
20:41 timdeluxe__ did you follow the tut?
20:41 jimmisandham1 yes :(
20:43 timdeluxe__ did the hello world part work?
20:43 jimmisandham1 its all worked up till now
20:44 timdeluxe__ did you include the static templates?
20:45 jimmisandham1 yes
20:49 jimmisandham1 could it be my ver of css styled content ext isnt right?
20:50 jimmisandham1 :( i cant find the problem :'
20:54 jimmisandham1 beauty
20:54 jimmisandham1 found it
20:54 timdeluxe__ sorry
20:54 timdeluxe__ was watching tv
20:55 timdeluxe__ what was it?
20:55 jimmisandham1 had to add line subparts.content = TEXT
20:55 jimmisandham1 then it worked
20:56 ironm a bit complicated the typo3 stuff ... *g*
20:56 jimmisandham1 yeah,. itb etter be worth learning
20:56 ironm you will have much more fun with TemplaVoila ;-)
20:56 jimmisandham1 :L
20:56 jimmisandham1 ive tried it
20:56 jimmisandham1 but didnt get a thing, so thaught id to through the tuts step by step
20:56 ironm I'm playing just with templates for TV ..
20:57 jimmisandham1 only started web design about 3 months ago, and already got a job :D .... so i gotta learn faster than ever
20:57 jimmisandham1 but i like a little challenge lol
20:57 ironm if you take the futtut .. it should work ...
20:58 jimmisandham1 yeah ima do the futut after mtb
20:58 jimmisandham1 just didnt understand a word the futut was talking about when i skipped streight to it
20:58 jimmisandham1 so im doing it step by step
20:58 ironm the documentation is not up to date ...
20:58 jimmisandham1 with futut?
20:58 ironm which version of typo3 did you take?
20:59 ironm all of them jimmisandham1
20:59 jimmisandham1 i have 4.0.0 ? is thta what u mean?>
20:59 ironm agata?
20:59 ironm 4.1.5 is the last one ..
20:59 jimmisandham1 i havnt upgraded yet :
20:59 jimmisandham1 is there a way to upgrade, without losing any wotk?
20:59 jimmisandham1 work
21:00 ironm i you have debian .. you could use meta typo3 packages (inclusive mysql and all needed stuff)
21:00 ironm I'm not sure
21:00 ironm you have to make a backup .. like mysqldump ...
21:00 ironm if ypo
21:00 jimmisandham1 hmm sounds a bit complicated for me
21:01 timdeluxe__ from 4.0.0 to 4.1.5 it shouldnt be that big problem
21:01 ironm if you install fresh debian etch 4.0r2 .. you can take packages from http://it-infrastrukturen.org/typo3 ...
21:02 timdeluxe__ http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Upgrade
21:02 ironm add the following lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
21:02 ironm ---
21:02 ironm deb http://www.it-infrastrukturen.org/typo3 ./
21:02 ironm deb-src http://www.it-infrastrukturen.org/typo3 ./
21:02 ironm ---
21:02 ironm and:
21:02 ironm apt-get update; apt-get install typo3
21:03 jimmisandham1 how hard would it be to go from 3.8 to 4.1.5?
21:03 jimmisandham1 because another site i maintain uses 3.8, and they wanted to upgrade, ........
21:04 ironm I don't have any experience jimmisandham1
21:04 jimmisandham1 ok
21:04 timdeluxe__ its described on that page jimmi, but i would try it on a additional server before making it on the live site
21:04 ironm ;-) @ timdeluxe__
21:04 jimmisandham1 is there a way to copy a whole site, from one server to another?
21:05 jimmisandham1 is it explained there too?
21:05 timdeluxe__ no
21:05 timdeluxe__ that is OS & sql handling
21:05 jimmisandham1 but its possible right?
21:06 timdeluxe__ yes
21:07 jimmisandham1 good :)
21:07 jimmisandham1 but i will look into that later
21:08 jimmisandham1 timdeluxe---- how long were u learning typo3 before u built your first site?
21:08 timdeluxe__ thats the wrong question ;)
21:08 jimmisandham1 may i ask why?
21:08 timdeluxe__ i learned it by building the first site
21:08 timdeluxe__ ;D
21:09 jimmisandham1 :D the way i have to do it ;)
21:09 timdeluxe__ i like learning by doing
21:09 jimmisandham1 me too, but sometimes its hard
21:09 timdeluxe__ of course
21:09 jimmisandham1 the templating bit
21:09 jimmisandham1 i couldnt do that without MTB
21:09 timdeluxe__ yes
21:09 timdeluxe__ sometimes it is better to get through tutorials
21:10 timdeluxe__ < watching tv now
21:10 jimmisandham1 kk have fun
21:10 jimmisandham1 what u watching ?
21:11 timdeluxe__ spider man 2
21:11 ironm tv = templavoila ? *ggg*
21:14 jimmisandham1 yes
21:14 jimmisandham1 what does TT_content = CASE mean in typoscript object browser??
21:36 timdeluxe__ ironm: hrhr nice joke
21:37 timdeluxe__ jimmisandham1: it has to do with conditions...
21:37 timdeluxe__ i would suggest you to buy a book about typo3
21:37 timdeluxe__ it could help you a lot
21:39 ironm there are nearly NO really good books at all .. most of them are very messy an random ;-(
21:39 timdeluxe__ hm ok, i dont know whats there in english language
21:40 ironm most of them are in english ... but german books are not better :-/
21:40 ironm most of the book writers should read the howtos of TLDP *g*
21:41 ironm including Kasper himself *lol*
21:41 ironm IMHO of course ...
21:44 jimmisandham1 lol
21:44 ironm anyway is TYPO3 a really great JOB !
21:45 ironm but .. very complicated ...
21:45 jimmisandham1 YES VERY
21:45 jimmisandham1 VERY VERY VEY
21:45 ironm *loooooooool*
21:46 ironm ;o)
21:46 timdeluxe__ of course it is
21:46 timdeluxe__ try other cms's
21:46 timdeluxe__ they are messy too
21:46 ironm they started to write new documentation based on docbook
21:46 ironm VERY messy
21:46 timdeluxe__ in my normal job i am a linux admin and have to maintain a server on which sap enterprise portal is running
21:47 ironm sometimes I thoght .. I hate them VERY *g*
21:47 jimmisandham1 my job, i just maintain one site that uses a CMS
21:47 jimmisandham1 easy
21:47 jimmisandham1 but now they want me to learn to create sites
21:47 jimmisandham1 NOT EASY
21:47 timdeluxe__ ;)
21:47 timdeluxe__ ironm: who and where?
21:48 ironm what about SAP ? ... it is probably all others than simple and uncomplicated, isn't it?
21:48 timdeluxe__ you summarized it completely in one line :)
21:48 ironm the stuff of TYPO3.org is looking for people for writing new documentation for typo3 v. 4.2 or so ...
21:49 ironm *ggg* ... refer to SAP
21:49 ironm or mybe version 5.0 ..
21:49 timdeluxe__ and i only have to maintain the servers not the portal itself
21:49 ironm s/my/may/
21:49 timdeluxe__ version 5 does use docbook, yes
21:50 timdeluxe__ and that is not a bad idea
21:50 timdeluxe__ in my opinion
21:52 ironm I'm playing just with docbook and Linux-doc
21:54 timdeluxe__ linux-doc? do you have a link?
21:54 ironm yes ... wait a second please
21:55 ironm read the pdf file I've gave just to you timdeluxe__
21:55 ironm s/gave/given/
21:57 ironm there are some links to all relevant topics timdeluxe__
21:58 timdeluxe__ ah, a hidden window ;D
21:58 timdeluxe__ htx
21:58 timdeluxe__ ehm thx
21:58 ironm yes timdeluxe__ :-)
21:58 ironm have fun timdeluxe__ :o)
22:02 ironm you have private messages timdeluxe__ ;-)
22:02 ironm some links are german sites ...
22:02 ironm .. however ...
22:02 timdeluxe__ i am native german ;)
22:02 ironm timdeluxe__: The Debian distribution of Linux has a linuxdoc-tools package
22:02 ironm great ... I'm speaking german too ;o)
22:03 timdeluxe__ hey i was just interested in the basic idea, i didnt want to have a complete reference ;)
22:03 ironm if .. than check only the following link: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Howtos-with-LinuxDoc.html
22:44 dokma guys, got this 2 part form to implement. first page should collect name and email, second page should collect a pile of other data.
22:44 dokma it's split in 2 so that those who give up once they see how much data is needed still get into the db
22:44 dokma so we can contact them later
22:45 dokma I'd like to find some ext to modify so I don't have to from scratch it
22:45 dokma anyone got something in mind?
22:57 void dokma: pil_mailform, pb_survery, th_mailformplus
23:01 dokma void: pb_survey might just be it
23:01 dokma let me check it
23:01 dokma thanks man!
23:02 void np =)
23:31 yakoi hello, is there an api call to generate a md5 compatible with md5 generated from /typo3/md5.js ? otherwise, is there a way to use php's md5 ?
23:31 yakoi (server-side)
23:34 yakoi I understand md5.js produces superchalanged md5, how does TYPO3 get to generate those md5 server-side for the TCA ?
23:37 void yakoi: t3 have some modes... challenged, superchallenged.. but where in TCA did you find the md5?
23:39 yakoi void: well type: input eval set to md5, as specified in inside typo3 ( Will convert the inputted value to the md5-hash of it (The JavaScript MD5() function is found in typo3/md5.js) )
23:41 yakoi void: using this ext that extends fe_user to md5 so it has following:
23:41 yakoi $TCA['fe_users']['columns']['password']['config']['eval'] .= ',md5,password';
23:41 yakoi now I must generate md5 compatible with this setup
23:41 yakoi server-side
23:42 void i thought that 'md5' in 'eval' means only usual md5(), not superchallenged md5(salt+md5(x))
23:43 yakoi I tried it out, it doesnt match: cd8365ff068367678dbd239d6ddd6657 vs 2cf06bcd05203d05a05b80b7adcc1489
23:43 yakoi I also thought it was simple md5
23:44 yakoi void: but inside typo3 states : Will convert the inputted value to the md5-hash of it (The JavaScript MD5() function is found in typo3/md5.js)
23:45 yakoi http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_api/4.1.0/view/4/2/#id3657017

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