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00:00 ries Never done that with MySQL... going to do something like that with PostgreSQL...
00:00 Provito postgres is fun as well, although I prefer the ease of setting it up with myssql
00:00 ries I never found mysql easy :D
00:02 Provito well like everything its about practice, I've you've sysadmin'd it for years you'd get the knack
00:03 Provito you probably find oracle easier heh?
00:04 ries PostgreSQL I find easer
00:46 timdeluxe Oracle, easier, wuhahaha! good night.
01:30 Denyerec nature ?
02:34 ries Denyerec: happy new year dude!
02:34 Denyerec You too man
02:34 Denyerec tho I wish it had got off to a better start :(
02:34 Denyerec the house move left me bankrupt, and I STILL haven't finished with that bastard newsletter
02:35 Denyerec Everything OK over there I hope ?
02:40 t3newb hey!
02:40 ries Denyerec: all ok from my side...
02:40 t3newb i just updated a 3.7 typo to 4.15 and it seems to work
02:41 ries Denyerec: houses are expensive... specially mocing from A to B
02:41 t3newb but the BE still looks exactly the same as before
02:41 t3newb although it shows the new version number
02:41 t3newb how can i get it to look like the new BE?
02:41 ries t3newb: clear your browser cache... it helped me :)
02:42 t3newb nope still the same
02:42 t3newb any other ideas?
02:43 Denyerec Yeah too true Ries
02:43 Denyerec the move has hurt me more than the money, as a lot of work got de-railled.
02:44 t3newb i wouldnt really mind the look but the new BE has the 4 columns view when editig page content and this one only has 1 column (normal)
02:44 ries Denyerec: I had the same one day... I calculated around 5000 euro for the moce...
02:44 ries turned out to be almost double...
02:44 Denyerec Heh
02:44 Denyerec well I lost about £1000 worth of work
02:44 Denyerec which is a lot for me :(
02:44 Denyerec You know how it is :S
02:44 Denyerec Trying to pick up the peices now, but I'm more interested in painting the house!! )
02:45 ries do the work first.. it generated the money
02:46 gerards Hi Denyerec sorry to hear about the house.
02:46 t3newb no one any ideas? :(
02:46 Denyerec Hey gerards
02:47 gerards t3newb: not me.
02:47 Denyerec happy new year to you too our there in Singapore :)
02:48 gerards thank you.
02:48 gerards did y ou move to a new town?
02:48 Denyerec Nah
02:48 Denyerec just down the street
02:48 Denyerec from a rented house into one that we have a mortgage on.
02:49 Denyerec So at least we own it!!
02:49 gerards ah. always a good idea.
02:49 gerards how're the real estate prices in England?
02:49 t3newb oh its an extension ... t3-skin ... lol
02:50 gerards t3newb: congrats.
02:50 t3newb ok got that, looks like the new one but still it only shows the "NORMAL"-column when editing a page ... but i need it to show "LEFT"-"NORMAL"-"RIGHT"-"BORDER"-colums like it does in the new version
02:50 t3newb any ideas?
02:51 t3newb because my new template has content in the right-column ...
02:56 t3newb_ ah damn got disconnected ... anyone answered by any chance? :)
02:57 ries t3newb: nobody did.. sorry... I am a bit out of teh loupe with T3
02:57 ries I only know that I had to update the CSS from browser psespective
02:58 t3newb_ yeah like i said i got the version 4 skin working since it is an extension ... only one thing left that keeps me from going to bed: i want multi-column view instead of single-column view when editing my page :)
03:15 t3newb_ ?
03:15 t3-tired-newb ...
03:15 t3-tired-newb :)
03:16 t3-tired-newb well another problem turned up ... since the new typo3 version uses translation-handling instead of the csh-extensions for language-settings there are problems
03:16 t3-tired-newb the translation-handling menu is completely empty
03:16 t3-tired-newb so i cant set it to german ...
03:16 t3-tired-newb :(
03:17 Denyerec Wuld it be easier to re-implement the site?
03:17 Denyerec it would be perhapos more future proofed...
03:17 t3-tired-newb how do you do that?
03:17 Denyerec though I don't know how large a site you're dealing with
03:17 Denyerec gerards - houses in the UK cost a FORTUNE.
03:17 t3-tired-newb its not that large ... 300 mb, about 100 pages
03:17 Denyerec It's sad :(
03:17 Denyerec uRL ?
03:18 t3-tired-newb http://bbs-bernkastel.de/ still running the old template ...
03:19 t3-tired-newb so what do you think? would it be easy to implement into a new setup?
03:22 Denyerec Yeah, could do with a design update too!
03:22 Denyerec Though 100 pages is a lot of data to re-enter.
03:23 t3-tired-newb :) the new design is ready, i just have to upload the template ...
03:23 t3-tired-newb but i wanted to keep the best for the end :)
03:24 t3-tired-newb oh you have to reenter every page? no way im not doing that ... they should implement a feature allowing to export your whole page-tree ... so you can implement it again into any other typo3 setup
03:25 Denyerec I believe you can.
03:25 Denyerec You can export a tree as a t3x file
03:25 Denyerec as in, all the content records and such
03:25 Denyerec just right click on the root page, and go to "more options"
03:25 Denyerec you'll see the export there.
03:25 Denyerec It's a complex operation to export though
03:35 t3-tired-newb oh that would be great, ill try, thanks
04:52 t3-tired-newb_ is there a way to replace all <typolist> tags in all pages of my typo3 config? i updated from 3.7 to 4.1 and it seems like <typolist> tags are not supported any longer
07:23 xsebi lo all
08:26 FloLeBlanc hi all
08:37 typochur hi flo ;)
08:37 FloLeBlanc anyone using mm_forum?
08:37 FloLeBlanc hi typochur
09:02 FloLeBlanc lol... I can't find the friggin wrap for the "member since" part of mm_forum... anyone who can help me out? (searched TS, hardcode, templates)
09:11 m0oman moo.
09:32 FloLeBlanc hi
09:37 FloLeBlanc hmm no one alive with mm_forum installed? :)
10:04 FloLeBlanc nvm - finally found it
10:04 FloLeBlanc thx to FloLeBlanc who pointed it out to me :)
10:25 Raffel Maybe someone can help me on a commerce issue, couldn't find it the mailinglists...
10:26 Raffel Namely; editing an article under a product seems only be possible with admin rigthts
10:26 Raffel for the path is /
10:26 Raffel How can i make be edited for another be user???
10:34 tommyd Hi all! Simple question, hopefully simple answer: where can I find the functionality to restore older versions of records?
10:34 FloLeBlanc tommyd: tools - log
10:34 tommyd I think I used that in one of my previous installations, but can't find it for the current one
10:35 tommyd ah, ok, thanks!
10:36 FloLeBlanc tommyd: yw
10:37 tommyd I was looking at the icons beside each record in the list view and always thought "nah, this is not the icon, this is used to edit the visibility of a record"
10:38 tommyd a hover would have shown me the real functionality
10:38 tommyd anyways, thanks again
11:21 just_a_question hello all
11:23 just_a_question just a "short" question. I'm trying to work out how to deploy a web solution which must manage some users and private content
11:23 just_a_question the goal would be to create some private area (protected by login and psw) where i will publish different content
11:23 just_a_question depending on the user
11:24 just_a_question something like user1, user2, user3 when logs on are redirected to user1-homepage, user2-homepage and so on
11:25 just_a_question do you think typo3 plus professional customization could do that?
11:28 cin_ need help with typo3 when i go to localhost/quickstart/ my browser show me just access denied i think something is wrong with the symlinks! plz help
11:29 cin_ and Holla ;)
11:44 amrun he u guys! urgend question arriving :) : how can i make line breaks in the locallang.xml file?
11:44 amrun im really pissed of, because nothing works... \n nor <br> of course..
11:44 amrun off
11:49 amrun any of you nor idling around?... :S
11:49 cin_ lol
11:49 cin_ this chan is a fake
11:49 cin_ or all live in asia O:
11:52 amrun hihi
11:54 amrun now i know..
11:55 amrun <![CDATA[<br>]]>
11:55 amrun thats how it works
12:36 ilya211 Hi everybody. Please help with sr_feuser_register. Not sending Confirmation emails to user, but admin notifications are ok. That I miss?
12:39 Denyerec Ummmmmmmmmm
12:40 Denyerec You might have typo'd the registered address? Last time I installed it and followed the manual, it seemed to work OK
12:40 ilya211 Registered address??? What is it?
12:45 FloLeBlanc just_a_question: yes it can, but it perhaps a bit over the top only for this purpose
12:46 Denyerec FLo - i wouldn't say it was over the top, if they want to publish and author content regularly then Typo3 would be the ideal platform
13:13 T3 hello
13:13 T3 How can i insert javascript Functions under TYPO3 ??
13:48 amrun where do you want to insert these? are you coding an extension and want to add some headerdata js stuff?
13:49 teppi|working TYPO3, http://phpfi.com/288068
13:50 teppi|working i don't think somebody who's coding an extension would ask such a question :-)
13:51 amrun you can add additional headerdata in you php code as well:
13:51 amrun $GLOBALS['TSFE']->additionalHeaderData[$this->extKey].= '<script src="' . $jsFilePath . '" type="text/javascript"><!-- //--></script>';
13:51 amrun why not? if he or she is a noob (like me)
14:00 Denyerec Eesh
14:05 amrun whatya eeshing about?
14:05 Denyerec General eeshiness
14:10 amrun hehe
14:22 Layna Hello :). I've got soem trouble with TV. I maped to an img-tag, used mapping.type image, and editing.type fixed w+h. Now.. for some reason TV keeps enlarging the image and showing me only part of it.. how to I put in the image WITHOUT TV resizing it?
14:28 ries Layna: 1) check the with/hight settings in your template
14:28 ries Layna: checkout th generated XMl and see if there is anything wrong with the generated typoscript
14:29 Layna The template is all right (I hope):
14:29 Layna <img src="###img###" alt="Image" height="389" width="290" class="image_right" />
14:30 Layna the src is replaced correctly.. the silyl thign just refused to accept the h+w...
14:32 Layna That is, the size is technically taken.. but T3 enlarges the image, and then I see only part of it.. wich is totally NOT what I expect ;)
14:35 ries Layna: better check the XML then and change it to what you need
14:42 Layna Well, as far I I can see, there is nothign wrong.... the amazing thing now: The image is apapently enlarged, then made smaller again... and I find nothinf that seems to tell T3 to ruin the image qquality like that...
14:42 jananne` Where can i set the rights for a BE user so he can add images in a tt_news record by clicking on the 'folder icon'?
14:42 jananne` What is it called *
14:50 jananne` Can anyone help me pls?
14:51 teppi|working Module Web -> List
14:51 teppi|working then select the root page
14:51 teppi|working there is a list of all BE users
14:51 teppi|working here you can edit the access rights
14:51 teppi|working maybe you add an usergroup ..
14:52 teppi|working and then add the user to this usergroup.. i dont know why but i have more access options in the edit screen of the user group than in the edit screen of an user
14:54 teppi|working btw .. you must activate the checkbox "include access lists" in the edit screen of the usergroups
14:58 jananne` teppi|working: thx :), but i already was that far.. i need the exact command or what it is called.
14:58 jananne` of*
15:00 teppi|working hm .. then i cant help you .. :-(
15:00 jananne` :s, well ty anyway :)
15:02 jananne` teppi|working: Maybe you can help me with something else..
15:02 jananne` When a client wants to add a tt_news record, it automaticly hides the record. Where can i set this to 'not hidden'?
15:04 amrun do you want to do this manually or by default of a newly cerated record?
15:05 jananne` amrun: i want it by defalt unhidden.
15:05 jananne` default *
15:05 amrun ok.. lemme see.. mom
15:06 teppi|working jananne`, no idea .. sry i didnt worked with tt_news that much ..
15:08 amrun err. i don't know if its there, but go to your extension manager, choose "loaded extensions" look for the key tt_news and click on it. then there is a checkbox calllllled...
15:09 amrun "hide new localizations".. is this one checked or not?
15:10 jananne` its not checked
15:10 amrun ok then its not that one. but there is a TS line you can add..:
15:10 amrun (($a['sbed'] > $b['sbed']) && $b['sbed'] != 0 ) ? +1 : -1;
15:11 amrun damn sry...
15:11 amrun 1.
15:11 amrun This will set the field hidden in new created news articles to 0 (=visible)
15:11 amrun TCAdefaults.tt_news.hidden = 0
15:12 jananne` okay
15:12 jananne` i will add that..
15:12 teppi|working as i read it you have to add it to the user ts ..
15:14 jananne` it works.. thanks people..
15:14 Dander hi @ all
15:15 jananne` amrun: Maybe you could with my 2nd problem.. My client can't add images by clicking on the 'folder icon'.. what rights does my client exactly need for this?
15:16 amrun a folder icon in the tree?
15:16 amrun or where?
15:16 jananne` amrun: when my client tries to add a image on a tt_news record.
15:17 LordLamer i have a problem with rtehtmlarea. i create a external link like http://localhost/test. after saving the rte modifie this to something like that: http://192.168.1.1/t3_instance/http://localhost/test
15:18 LordLamer so what could i do to fix this
15:49 jananne` amrun: Maybe you could with my 2nd problem.. My client can't add images by clicking on the 'folder icon' when trying to add an tt_news record. What rights does my client exactly need for this?
15:49 amrun i already asked you what it says when he hit the button
15:55 jananne` it only shows an icon with a marker of showing mini images or something like that.
15:55 jananne` <jananne`> it doesn't show the whole tree
15:56 jananne` I can't ADD images when clicked on the 'folder button'.
15:56 jananne` amrun: i only see i marker with the text "how mini images" or something. nothing else.
15:59 jananne` what more information can i give.. i only see this ^^ :P.
15:59 amrun then you gotta give the person or the better the group the right to access that part of the tree. you do that at the user admin under "tools" and if you select a group you can do that under "db mounts" and i think also "fileoperating permissions"
16:02 amrun ah no i guess you can leave fileoperating permissions as it is
16:02 amrun or no, the top 3 of them should be checked at least in my opinion
16:03 amrun but just give as much permissions as necessary to your users. otherwise you're gonna dive in the turd
16:04 jananne` amrun: okay, i'll take a look..
16:05 amrun you can make a separate group to test it. and then add the affected group as member of this new one. so you can easily remove it if its crappin' up
16:05 teppi|working i think you have to give filepermissions to this folder
16:10 amrun if the user cannot see it at all he should probably have the right for that first..
16:47 tomyN hi
17:13 tomyN no-one here? all leaving??
17:22 isolysis tomyN: if you have a Q, just post it
17:23 tomyN ok, thanks - I changed my chat program and wasn't sure if it works right.
17:25 tomyN Actually, I am trying to find the latest update on Smoothgallery, which should be 2.0. I checked with the Typo3 repository, but found also this here: http://smoothgallery.jondesign.net. Will try ...
17:27 isolysis i am not too familiar with that.. so i couldnt say
17:29 timdeluxe tomyN: you should use the ext from the TER
17:29 tomyN TER ?
17:30 timdeluxe the link you found is another gallery which is calles also smoothgallery but has nothing to do with rgsmoothgallery in the TER
17:30 timdeluxe TER= typo3 extension repository
17:30 tomyN ohh
17:31 timdeluxe the developer is sometimes here (just2b) but hasnt time anymore to develop it further
17:32 jameelsandham1 anyone got an estimate of how long it takes to lean the TemplaVoila EXT?
17:32 timdeluxe at least that is what i remember :)
17:32 tomyN but I found it here: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/rgsmoothgallery/1.0.9/view/1/1/
17:32 jameelsandham1 learn+
17:33 tomyN jameelsandham1: some learn fast, some need longer, that's hard to answer
17:34 timdeluxe tomyN ok i was wrong
17:34 timdeluxe the site you posted it the base
17:34 timdeluxe just2b have just made an extension out of it
17:34 tomyN timdeluxe: good, I started to like the demo!!
17:35 jameelsandham1 ok, for an intermediate developer?
17:35 jameelsandham1 that learsn fast
17:35 jameelsandham1 try answer that ;)
17:35 timdeluxe jameelsandham1: depends on how much you want to know
17:35 timdeluxe creating a simple template with it: not long
17:35 timdeluxe making extra FCE's: longer
17:36 timdeluxe understanding it and modifying the xml code
17:36 timdeluxe : very long
17:36 tomyN jameelsandham1: ok, I'd say 6 hours, heh!
17:36 tomyN assuming you'll need to read a few things twice
17:37 timdeluxe but there is a nice podcast which explains the principle in a short way
17:38 tomyN need to take care of the disaster around me, thanks everyone :)
17:39 jameelsandham1 well my template is very simple
17:39 jameelsandham1 allmost identicle to the one in MTB
17:39 jameelsandham1 just leftmenu, header and main content
17:40 timdeluxe sounds good
17:40 jameelsandham1 i know the MTB method, but everyone talks of TV to be so much better, so i wonder if its worth sticking to the old one or just learning TV?
17:41 timdeluxe jameelsandham1: didnt you read what i wrote the last days? -.-
17:44 timdeluxe i recommended that you begin with the FTB and leave out the MTB...
17:44 timdeluxe who cares
17:44 timdeluxe have to go now... bye folks
17:45 jameelsandham1 thanks, but everyone told me MTB helps you understand ftb
17:45 jameelsandham1 so i just did both!
17:45 jameelsandham1 i meen so i will just do both/
17:45 timdeluxe ok
17:46 timdeluxe i dont remember the FTB in detail, but perhaps you are right, cause you still need the TS for menus and so on
17:46 timdeluxe you first should watch the podcast and then go through the tut
17:49 jameelsandham1 ok thanks
17:49 jameelsandham1 stupid question, how do i delete pages recursively?
17:50 jameelsandham1 or where do i set to be able to delete pages with sub pages?
17:52 jameelsandham1 nvm found it thanks
19:31 paddyez hi
19:32 paddyez does anyone know why the start stop icon is shown in pages but not with storage records? In storage records the icon is the same as the hidden symbol
20:01 isolysis paddyez: i assume because storage record simply tells you what is on your database/server, whereas pages define whether the pages actually show the content to front end users
20:08 paddyez isolysis: well the explaination seems OK but it still does not make any sense to me to treat the two different
20:09 jananne i want to have a horizontal mainmenu and beneath it a horizontal submenu. Can someone give me an example of the tsconfig and html for this..?
20:09 paddyez suppose you have an extension building the content from tables?
20:16 isolysis jananne: that idea is implemented at this site http://www.yaml.de/en/ and they are using typo3 it seems. if you dont get anywhere, perhaps you can contact them for advise
20:24 t3-tired-newb hey everyone
20:24 t3-tired-newb which would be the biggest english-typo3-community?
20:24 t3-tired-newb like where you can post problems and get help :)
20:30 jananne isolysis: I don't have any knowledge of TV yet. I will start with that after this website for my client :). I just want to know how i can make a MAINMENU in a table and a SUBMENU in a differtent table. If i know that i know enough :).
20:35 paddyez jananne: don't use divs
20:36 paddyez sorry I meant: do not! use divs instead
20:36 jananne paddyez: well.. when i use div's how do i do it then :D?
20:36 paddyez jananne: you make a template using two markers
20:37 paddyez wrap each navigation element in a div
20:37 paddyez substitute the marker in your template
20:38 paddyez write some css done
20:38 tomyN hi, need some hints: I have a standard navigation, would like to hide the second level by default and it shows only when a visitor clicks on a header in the first level? Is this a function in Typo3? Where and what am I looking for?
20:38 jananne paddyez: I'm a rookie, i don't know how :s.
20:47 t3-tired-newb tomyN define a marker for your menu and then add something like this ---->
20:47 t3-tired-newb # Menu 1 cObject
20:47 t3-tired-newb temp.menu_1 = HMENU
20:47 t3-tired-newb # First level menu-object, textual
20:47 t3-tired-newb temp.menu_1.1 = TMENU
20:47 t3-tired-newb temp.menu_1.1 {
20:47 t3-tired-newb # Normal state properties
20:47 t3-tired-newb NO.allWrap = <div class="menu1-level1-no"> | </div>
20:47 t3-tired-newb # Enable active state and set properties:
20:47 t3-tired-newb ACT = 1
20:47 t3-tired-newb ACT.allWrap = <div class="menu1-level1-act"> | </div>
20:48 t3-tired-newb }
20:48 t3-tired-newb # Second level menu-object, textual
20:48 t3-tired-newb temp.menu_1.2 = TMENU
20:48 t3-tired-newb temp.menu_1.2 {
20:48 t3-tired-newb # Normal state properties
20:48 t3-tired-newb NO.allWrap = <div class="menu1-level2-no"> | </div>
20:48 t3-tired-newb # Enable active state and set properties:
20:48 t3-tired-newb ACT = 1
20:48 t3-tired-newb ACT.allWrap = <div class="menu1-level2-act"> | </div>
20:48 t3-tired-newb }
20:48 t3-tired-newb <--- to your menu. all you have to do then is to substitute your menu-marker with menu_1 and dont forget to define the used classes in your css file
20:48 tomyN wow
20:48 tomyN well thanks!!!
20:48 t3-tired-newb there is apretty good tutorial on typo3.org in various languages for templates ... it deals with a 2-level menu as well
20:48 tomyN hope I can handle this, I am very new to this
20:49 t3-tired-newb then you should definitely do the tutorial first
20:49 t3-tired-newb it helps you with everything you need to know to get a basic site satrted
20:50 t3-tired-newb http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_templselect/0.1.0/view/
20:50 t3-tired-newb do that one ... i did and it helped a lot!
20:51 tomyN I already have a site and need to make some changes: http://tghd.dyndns.org/quetzal
20:51 tomyN THANKS!!
20:51 tomyN did all this in some kind of crash course ...
20:52 t3-tired-newb me 2 :)
20:52 t3-tired-newb still a loong way to go :)
20:53 nahirean Hey guys. I am still a novice using typo3, and I am working on a simple page with a mailform. I am using one of the included templates, "First". I am having trouble "positioning" my form as I would like, it appears to the far left of the frame leaving a lot of "space" on the right side of the page. I have been using the object browser to try and find how I can change this and am not having a lot of luck. Could someone offer some advice?
20:54 isolysis nahirean: do you have a link to your page?
20:54 nahirean Yes, I do. Do you mind if I /msg that to you?
22:01 isolysis nahirean: hi, sure go ahead..
22:02 isolysis nahirean: if you had included my name in the msg it would have alerted me
23:11 jananne i want to have a main menu in a DIV and a submenu in a DIV. Could someone show me how to make the TSCONFIG and HTML
23:13 Denyerec any particular reason you want them in separate divs?
23:28 jananne Denyerec: I want to have the submenu somewhere different then the main menu.. i want to know how.. that way i can do what i want with the submenu
23:30 jananne Denyerec: an example: Lets take this design: http://jananne.net/portfolio. Lets say i make the main menu ( Actueel, Digitaal loket, etc ), how do i make the submenu then?
23:30 jananne First site you see on my portfolio

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