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00:30 rodi_ hi there, what would be the best way to access a flexform configuration of a plugin from a custom function in the plugin included by userFunc. I have the the uid of the content element but I don't know how to initialize the $this->cObj object with the data of the content element to use $this->pi_initPIflexForm()
00:33 rodi_ ah, with start()
00:33 rodi_ got it
02:14 tomyN Hi Typo3
02:15 tomyN What would I need to configure so that custom class tags won't be filtered out by the Rich Text Editor?
02:49 tomyN no-one here?
02:55 tomyN everybody on vacation :\ ?
03:40 tomyN chefan: hi
03:41 chefan hi
03:41 tomyN are you familiar with adding custom styles to RTE ?
03:42 chefan nope, i would have to read the docs
03:42 tomyN I'd like to know how to configure pageTSConfig so that I would not remove manually added class tags
03:43 tomyN I am just pasting it as raw html, but .?
03:43 chefan debuggers help, plus the sequence diagram of rendering
03:43 tomyN that
03:44 tomyN s over my head
06:15 FloLeBlanc hi all
09:02 m4rtijn hi all
09:57 FloLeBlanc re
10:04 fastic hi pleople
10:05 Tsoots lo flastic
10:05 m4rtijn_ re
10:06 fastic I have to let users insert videos or photo with a comentary in a web
10:06 fastic i'd like to do it with transparency, I mean, I want the upload field to be the same
10:06 fastic is there any extension or something you can recommend?
10:10 seetime hi, im new here, and im looking for a solution to automatically create sites based on records in a database, does anyone know a possible solution
10:19 maholtz|WORK moin
10:22 fastic ok, another question...
10:22 teppi|work 42!
10:23 hypertext i have changed my whole website into new domain. but still showing me old domain link on language option and some of other. anyway would like to suggest me how to change it??????????????''
10:24 fastic is it possible to let users upload an image in the FRONTEND and that automatically is shown in a specific section?
10:27 hypertext and even i changed some basic configuration inside localconfig file. would anybody like to suggest me how to do it???????????????
10:29 fastic I only want to know if I can set a frontend posting interface
10:31 maholtz|WORK hypertext: you should make all your links via typoscript - then you would not have that problem
10:33 maholtz|WORK hypertext: what i wanted to say: check the points where you have configured f.e. language option - there you will have the old domain hardcoded. change it to an typolink (returnLast = url should help you)
10:34 fastic another question: why has typoscript so huge lack of documentation? I've to use Typo3 for one project in my job, but I have to decide if we use it more times or not. We will never use it anymore, for sure. Drupal is much better. Thank you and byebye
10:35 m4rtijn_ lol
10:35 m4rtijn_ drupal sucks
10:37 m4rtijn_ I've seen the backend of drupal.. and puked
10:37 m4rtijn_ on it
10:37 maholtz|WORK @fastic: u should use typo3 only, if you want to do more than three jobs with it
10:37 m4rtijn_ hehe
10:37 m4rtijn_ he's gone
10:38 maholtz|WORK ups yep
10:38 hypertext i have already changed those configs in localconfig but still showing old domain links
10:38 maholtz|WORK typoscript not localconfig
10:41 m4rtijn_ its fun to see that people throw some argument in a chat room and then leave
10:42 maholtz|WORK yep
10:46 FloLeBlanc perhaps they are afraid of counter-arguments :)
10:47 hypertext maholtz|WORK: I´m unable to find out typoscript
10:49 maholtz|WORK how did you get your typo3 website run?
10:50 hypertext actually, i´m newer in typo3
11:01 m4rtijn_ hypertext - r u german?
11:01 m4rtijn_ :0
11:02 m4rtijn_ cause there is some good documentation but not yet translated...
11:15 hypertext i´m spanish
11:19 Niwaa im setting up a basic news system with the tt_news extension
11:19 Niwaa i just have one problem
11:20 Niwaa when i add the Plugin content to the page, i cant select my news category in the News categories list
11:23 Niwaa thats in the "Category selection" i cant select my news category
11:23 Niwaa in the "Items" list
11:25 m4rtijn Niwaa - in the plugin settings.. which option did u choose for categories
11:25 m4rtijn Niwaa - go to the extension manager
11:25 Niwaa oke
11:25 m4rtijn Niwaa - click the tt_news extension
11:26 m4rtijn Niwaa - and check the setting for categories
11:26 Niwaa uhm lets see hehe
11:26 Niwaa im not so pro at typo3 yet
11:27 m4rtijn np..
11:27 Niwaa there's mark in the General record storage page
11:28 Niwaa when i read the text below this GRSP it seems to be the one
11:29 Niwaa i will provide a screenshot, just a sec
11:30 m4rtijn .. u dont have to
11:32 m4rtijn try to understand what it says there.. if u have any questions just ask.. :)
11:32 Niwaa okay hehe
11:33 Niwaa the thing is that i have set my GRSP and at that page my News category is located
11:37 m4rtijn I also did categories once now.. so I ll have to check how i did it as well :)
11:39 m4rtijn hmm
11:39 m4rtijn did u check "is root of website" at your root page?
11:39 Niwaa hehe thank u
11:39 Niwaa sec
11:40 Niwaa yes
11:40 Niwaa my screenshots are ready, now uploading
11:41 m4rtijn try this.. make a new news.. then in "relations" tab .. make a new category
11:41 m4rtijn if it gives an error.. relay that to me
11:42 Niwaa http://peecee.dk/upload/view/122793/full and this http://peecee.dk/upload/view/122792/full
11:42 Niwaa okay
11:45 Niwaa that worked perfect
11:45 Niwaa no errors
11:45 m4rtijn hmm.. so now u see the cat?
11:45 Niwaa in the relations list yes
11:46 Niwaa but thats not the problem hehe
11:46 m4rtijn oh..
11:46 Niwaa check http://peecee.dk/upload/view/122792/full
11:46 Niwaa in the Items list
11:46 m4rtijn oops..
11:46 m4rtijn ok
11:46 m4rtijn so?
11:47 Niwaa u see that it is product news listed there
11:47 m4rtijn yes
11:47 Niwaa and i can not see my own normal news
11:47 Niwaa in this Items list
11:48 m4rtijn u can only select categoeries..
11:48 m4rtijn not news items..
11:48 Niwaa which i need to be able to select in order to make the news plugin work with the correct news articles
11:48 Niwaa yes exactly
11:48 m4rtijn yes.. make a category for your "normal" news
11:48 m4rtijn and choose that
11:48 Niwaa thats what i have done
11:49 Niwaa but im not able to see it
11:49 m4rtijn k.. did u select the option "category mode" ?
11:49 Niwaa uhm where?
11:49 m4rtijn on top of that selection thingie
11:50 m4rtijn category mode.. choose "show categories selected (AND)"
11:51 m4rtijn then choose the "normal" news category
11:52 Niwaa sorry im not sure where this selection thingie is with the category mode
11:53 m4rtijn check your screenshot
11:53 Niwaa ya?
11:53 m4rtijn there where it says "show all dont care about selection"
11:55 Niwaa oh
11:55 m4rtijn brb.. smoke
11:56 Niwaa i choosed the "show categories selected"
11:56 Niwaa in category mode
11:56 Niwaa but i cant choose the "normal" news category in the Items list
11:57 Niwaa i can only choose between some product news categories in the Items list (someone else made these)
11:58 Niwaa the website also has other news categories which i cant see in the Items list also
11:59 Niwaa its like the inserted plugin is somehow locked or defined to only be able to choose between the product news categories
11:59 Niwaa and no other news categories
11:59 Niwaa brb food :)
12:00 Niwaa just leave me text here, i will read it when i get back from food
12:00 Niwaa thanks already m4rtijn :)
12:01 m4rtijn yw
12:34 Niwaa im back
12:45 Niwaa btw. m4rtijn, do u have the option "tt_news category manager" when u are in the Web->Info module
12:45 Niwaa in the dropdown in the top right corner
12:47 m4rtijn nope
12:47 m4rtijn wait.. i dont have tt_news installed on the site where i checked..
12:47 m4rtijn sec..
12:47 Niwaa oh okay
12:48 m4rtijn yes, i do have it
12:48 Niwaa oh
12:48 Niwaa i dont have it :/
12:48 Niwaa its getting more and more strange
12:48 m4rtijn which typo3 version do u have?
12:48 Niwaa sec
12:49 Niwaa TYPO3 4.0
12:49 m4rtijn and .. did u include the css_style thingies in your template?
12:49 m4rtijn arr.. 4.0 ??
12:49 m4rtijn why?
12:49 m4rtijn :p
12:49 m4rtijn upgrade to 4.1.7 .. I'd recommend.. or directly 4.2.1
12:49 m4rtijn its not a big deal..
12:49 Niwaa well i dont control that hehe, i just joined a company and works on their website now which runs typo3
12:50 Niwaa i see
12:50 m4rtijn just overwrite the /typo3 and /t3lib folder.. or change the symlinks if u use those
12:50 m4rtijn its not only for better extension support.. but also a security issue
12:50 Niwaa i see
12:51 m4rtijn a lot of security bugs have been fixed in 4.1.7 and 4.2.1
12:51 Niwaa thats important
12:51 m4rtijn yes
12:51 m4rtijn very
12:51 m4rtijn :)
12:51 dooz Hey folks!
12:51 Niwaa hey
12:51 m4rtijn you can make a good impression on your company ;)
12:51 m4rtijn hi dooz
12:51 Niwaa hehe yeah :)
12:52 m4rtijn upgrading typo3 is rly easy..
12:52 m4rtijn but.. make sure.. u have php 5 if u want 4.2.1
12:52 m4rtijn else use 4.1.7
12:53 m4rtijn and u should create a sql dump before u start
12:54 Niwaa ah yes
13:07 Denyerek REALLY big bugbear with the 4.2 backend
13:07 Denyerek when setting up user groups and permissions
13:07 Denyerek the list boxes are too freakin narrow to read the options
13:11 m4rtijn hehe.. I have that with the category selection.. you can see half of the categories
13:11 m4rtijn its a bit of guesswork
13:15 maholtz|WORK where? i cannot find that
13:19 Denyerek m4rtijn - in user management, how do you display more columns these days ?
13:19 Denyerek I have a list of tickboxes
13:19 Denyerek but no way to make them actually DO anything
13:20 maholtz|WORK ? cant find it
13:22 maholtz|WORK you talk abaout changin ACL for an user, f.e. change which table he is allowed to see?
13:55 m4rtijn has anyone ever had 2 suckefish navis on one page??
13:55 m4rtijn im kinda stuck
13:55 m4rtijn and #css is not being helpfull.. :
13:55 m4rtijn :p
14:05 DDK3z Hi All, What is the most conventional method of making a full typo3 backup?
14:06 maholtz|WORK via shell - mysqldump + copy files
14:07 DDK3z and how would i restore?
14:08 maholtz|WORK mysql + copy files?
14:09 DDK3z umm, care to explain to me like i have no idea about anything? :d
14:09 m4rtijn wave your magic wand it the server
14:09 m4rtijn ;)
14:10 m4rtijn import the SQL dump and copy the files to the web root
14:10 maholtz|WORK @DDK3z: man mysqldump, man mysql
14:10 maholtz|WORK do you know "man"?
14:10 m4rtijn or.. u could use phpmyadmin - which is a bit easier
14:10 m4rtijn lol, maholtz|WORK .. bad mood? :p
14:11 maholtz|WORK @m4rtijn: not really *g*
14:11 m4rtijn hehe
14:11 m4rtijn DDK3z - I'd recommend u use phpmyadmin for the DB
14:12 m4rtijn theres an export and import button.. very easy
14:12 m4rtijn just look through it a bit.. you'll understand
14:12 maholtz|WORK if it works - with small db etc
14:12 m4rtijn .. yes
14:12 maholtz|WORK if you have shell, take some time and learn to have enough time in future
14:13 DDK3z i have shell. . .
14:13 m4rtijn then man mysql is the best advice :)
14:14 DDK3z man is a command :S?
14:14 maholtz|WORK man = manual
14:14 maholtz|WORK type in
14:14 maholtz|WORK man man
14:14 maholtz|WORK read a little bit
14:14 maholtz|WORK type in
14:14 maholtz|WORK man mysql
14:14 maholtz|WORK man mysqldump
14:15 DDK3z oh, i see
14:15 flops hi
14:15 DDK3z thank you
14:15 maholtz|WORK you need mysqldump to "save" the db
14:15 maholtz|WORK you nee mysql to resore
14:15 maholtz|WORK np
14:15 maholtz|WORK but:
14:15 maholtz|WORK be carefull
14:15 maholtz|WORK :)
14:15 DDK3z yeah, im apprehensive already :(.
14:16 maholtz|WORK mysqldump -uusername -p typo3database > typo3database.sql
14:16 maholtz|WORK -p without your password, then you will be asked on shell
14:16 maholtz|WORK otherwise your password will be in shell-history
14:16 maholtz|WORK only nice for hackers:)
14:16 DDK3z if i just backup whole server, does that mean when i restore then the old typo3 that was there on backup will be restored too? or wont a server backup save the current typo3?
14:17 maholtz|WORK well "backup whole server" means what?
14:19 flops someone experience with indexed search? i have a problem on a new server, on an old server everything works fine, so i know how to configure indexedsearch. is there a possibility to finde out where the indexedsearch tries to run pdt2text for external files? i wanna know if the webserver/php tries the correct location of the programm or if it tries to run the programm from the correct location but does not have the permissions. maybe just a
14:20 DDK3z im my CP i can press a button which creats backup of everything.... but im not sure if this would also save all typo3 relative files too
14:21 maholtz|WORK do not now too:(
14:23 m4rtijn i know
15:04 Recnelis Hello all
15:06 m4rtijn hi rec
15:07 Denyerec Guys
15:07 Denyerec WTH is going on with Typo3 / Joomla / Drupal
15:07 Denyerec I'm really stuck in a rut here wondering whether Joomla / Drupal are a better alternative, or not.
15:08 maholtz|WORK for what?
15:08 Denyerec CMS websites.
15:08 maholtz|WORK managing small easy websites
15:08 maholtz|WORK ?
15:08 Denyerec I don't know what Joomla/Drupals strengths are
15:08 Denyerec they have a load of flashy web 2.0 extensions
15:08 maholtz|WORK CMS? i am not sure, if typo3 is an cms
15:08 Denyerec Easy polls, forums, etc.
15:08 Denyerec Wheras everything in Typo3 seems to be a headache
15:09 Denyerec It could just be a case of the grass being greener on the other side...
15:09 Denyerec Typo3 is a content management system, that's what it is!
15:10 DDK3z typo3 is definately a headache
15:12 DDK3z is realURL ext as easy as it sounds?
15:12 Denyerec usually yeah
15:13 DDK3z so i wont get any strange config errors that affect the site?
15:14 Denyerec no
15:14 Denyerec if you do you can just remove it
15:14 DDK3z i will take your word for it ;)
15:19 Recnelis Denyerec: Every sickness has it's own medicine.. it's the same with cms :)
15:20 m4rtijn Denyerec - drupal is still in a very early stage of developement..
15:20 Recnelis Typo3 if better if u have high traffic websites and like it flexible.. whereas joomla and drupal are faster to set up and manage, but some things aren't as changed as easy...
15:20 m4rtijn Denyerec - I've seen the backend which is realy very user-unfriendly I think
15:20 Denyerec Sounds like you have some experience.
15:20 Recnelis I mostly use Typo3 cuz that's why I'm "good" at...
15:20 Denyerec I like TYpo3, I really do
15:20 Denyerec but sometimes I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall
15:20 DDK3z :L
15:20 DDK3z haha
15:21 DDK3z yeah i agree
15:21 Denyerec perhaps if I better understood how to make extensions it would be nicer
15:21 DDK3z im still a total newbie, and i suck and hate it
15:21 Denyerec but I can't seem to get into extension development.
15:21 Recnelis I do - And the BE layout is better in Typo3 - But yes.. typo3 can be a f*cking pain in the ass
15:21 Denyerec I wish I knew someone who was good at extension dev and wanted to co-operate on projects
15:21 Denyerec I have so many ideas I can't effect.
15:21 maholtz|WORK but after a few years, you will sometimes think "great" ;)
15:21 Recnelis DDK3z: We've all been there :P - The biggest problem in typo3 is typoscript.. but they're working on a 45 min quick guide
15:21 Denyerec Typoscript is awesome
15:22 maholtz|WORK does it help?
15:22 maholtz|WORK the 45 minutes guide
15:22 maholtz|WORK help to improve it - please:)
15:22 Recnelis Donno.. haven't read it yet :P
15:22 Recnelis But I'm gonna.. would love to be better at TS
15:22 DDK3z where can i find this 45 min quick quide?
15:22 DDK3z or is it still being written?
15:22 m4rtijn still being translated..
15:23 m4rtijn and written..
15:23 DDK3z :(
15:23 m4rtijn u speak german?
15:23 maholtz|WORK http://wiki.typo3.org/De:TSref/45MinutesTypoScript
15:23 Recnelis But neither Joomla or Drupal sites are EVER xhtml valid.. I still haven't seen any
15:23 Recnelis m4rtijn: Google translate? :P
15:23 m4rtijn :p
15:23 DDK3z lol
15:24 m4rtijn Recnelis - www.kleinwaechter.biz is a drupal site..
15:24 m4rtijn which is quite new as well
15:24 Recnelis Google's translator is actually really good
15:24 m4rtijn I know
15:24 DDK3z oh, is it?
15:24 m4rtijn I translated that site.. kleinwaechter
15:24 Recnelis m4rtijn: And has 79 errors :P
15:24 Recnelis Nice.. :o
15:24 DDK3z :L
15:24 m4rtijn just run everything through the google translator.. and corrected it
15:24 m4rtijn was quite a help
15:25 Recnelis Indeed.. much faster as well
15:25 Recnelis Cuz it can do the "hard" part.. and u just have to fix the smaller things..
15:25 m4rtijn yay.. that was 700 euros earned quite easy ;)
15:25 Recnelis lol
15:25 m4rtijn well no
15:25 m4rtijn it did the easy parts
15:25 m4rtijn and i fixed the hard one
15:25 m4rtijn s
15:26 m4rtijn but 79 errors.. lol
15:26 Recnelis Hehe..
15:26 m4rtijn I think I have to bitchslap some programmers there
15:27 Recnelis How come?
15:28 m4rtijn cause i didnt get the chanse to prog that site.. the customer already had those guys to do it in drupal
15:28 m4rtijn so.. always good to have some bitchslaps at hand when i need them
15:28 m4rtijn :)
15:28 Recnelis Good idea ;)
15:34 DDK3z anyone used the "full backup" ext before?
15:35 m4rtijn nope..
15:35 m4rtijn best backup method is rly - mysql dump and copy files
15:35 m4rtijn then u can be sure it will work
15:36 DDK3z what exactly happens when you command mysql dump?
15:37 m4rtijn u create a .sql file which if run makes a clone of the db which u dumped
15:37 m4rtijn just dont confuse drop with dump .. muhaha
15:39 DDK3z i have 2 domains on same server, both have typo3 installed, i only want to backup one of them, how do i make sure im only doing it for one domain?
15:39 m4rtijn check the typo3conf/localconf.pfp which table its using
15:39 m4rtijn php
15:41 DDK3z is this indicated by typo db host ?
15:42 m4rtijn no, thats the host
15:43 DDK3z which field will i find the info for the db name
15:43 m4rtijn u dont need the db na,e
15:43 m4rtijn name
15:43 DDK3z the table then?
15:43 m4rtijn yep
15:45 DDK3z yeah, how do i find out which table its in? im reading localconf.php... but where in that file does it tell me the table it uses?
15:46 m4rtijn i dont know the exact line.. but the descriptor is very precise
15:46 m4rtijn cant be hard to find
15:46 DDK3z lol, well im struggling :L im a bit crap though but ill keep looking
16:04 DDK3z aaah the beauties of PLESK.... i just backed up whole domain... no need for shell commands
16:05 chefan what a pity. you miss all the cool tar -czf's
16:06 chefan question, any cool and simple way to reduce a pages output to just that of the fe plugin dropped in there?
16:06 chefan sort of avoiding all the wrapper alltogether?
16:12 DDK3z see, i dont even really know what a tar - czf's is, so im happy to miss it at the moment :)
16:13 m4rtijn its a unzip command
16:13 DDK3z tar means unzip?
16:14 m4rtijn tar = linux zip
16:14 Recnelis DDK3z: It's a shell command for unzipping
16:14 Recnelis m4rtijn beat me to the punch :p
16:14 DDK3z ;)
16:15 DDK3z wheres the best documentation for learning shell commands?
16:15 m4rtijn man
16:15 chefan actually to compress in that case. extraction woulx be -xzf for instance
16:15 m4rtijn tab tab
16:15 m4rtijn :)
16:15 DDK3z tab?
16:15 m4rtijn the button on your keyboard
16:16 m4rtijn press it twice
16:16 m4rtijn :)
16:16 m4rtijn in shell
16:16 DDK3z oh literally :L
16:16 DDK3z thought it was a nother command
16:16 DDK3z ok thanks
16:16 m4rtijn hehe
16:17 DDK3z ugh more reading :(.... i think i may get to grips with typo3 first, and leave the server stuff to my hoster
16:17 m4rtijn I'd recommend buy a book.... its easier to get into the topics with a book
16:17 chefan once you get into it, you'll never say "no need for shell commands" again. having a shell available is a privilege, not a handicap
16:17 m4rtijn or just install debian at home.. and start playing
16:18 chefan unix for dummies is a good start
16:18 chefan the rest comes with use and google anyway
16:19 chefan you don't even have to install it, for trying out shell commands, a livecd/usb is great
16:19 DDK3z livecd?
16:19 chefan you can run linux/unix completely from extractable media
16:20 chefan knoppix is a good example, and most system rescue cd's are based on that principle
16:20 DDK3z what is extractable media ? lol, rememeber im a dummie...well not so much a dummie, im just yound and inexperienced
16:20 chefan ubuntu for instance boots to a completely functional gui
16:20 DDK3z young*
16:20 chefan cd, floppy, pendrives
16:21 chefan i am old and inexperienced. just the standards wat you consider inexperienced may vary :D
16:21 chefan speaking of that
16:22 chefan plan is to produce pure xml output with an extension in one url of a typo3 site
16:22 chefan what's the easiest/most obvious way to get rid of all the wrappings?
16:22 m4rtijn I think installing it helps a lot to grasp it
16:22 m4rtijn thats why
16:23 chefan nowadays not so much to my mind. modern linux installation is more or less automatic with less user intervention than during a typical windows setup
16:23 chefan besides, after playing a while with a live cd, instalation is the logical consequence anyway ;)
16:24 DDK3z how do i run a shell with a live cd?
16:24 chefan depends on the distro
16:24 chefan either you have a button for xterm or something similar
16:25 chefan or in the tools look for terminal or something like that
16:25 DDK3z ok
16:25 chefan in ubuntu for instance you find it in Accessories
16:26 DDK3z i just installed realURL, but literally nothing happened to my urls... anyone know why?
16:27 chefan if you are feeling adventurous and 1337, you can try out nimbleX. that's a live booting slackware distro
16:27 m4rtijn rename the _.htaccess to .htaccess
16:27 DDK3z where will i find this file?
16:27 m4rtijn webroot
16:27 m4rtijn and.. you need some TS setup
16:28 m4rtijn check the manual from realurl on that
16:28 DDK3z oh, yay, i love TS
16:28 chefan if you are planing to learn for professional use, i'd propose fedora. you can later on use the praxis with centos, which is a rather good choice for server platforms
16:28 m4rtijn if u have tt_news i'd recommend cb_realurl
16:28 DDK3z naah its a simple site, no exts like news
16:29 DDK3z whats fedora? a shell commander?
16:29 DDK3z i use putty
16:29 DDK3z was reccomended by my host
16:30 Recnelis Fedora is a OS
16:30 Recnelis Linux based..
16:32 m4rtijn hehe
16:32 Recnelis In my extension can't I define constants? Using the normal define?
16:33 DDK3z hmm, how do i find out what OS my servers are currently using?
16:34 m4rtijn reboot, and read the starting message ;)
16:34 m4rtijn hehe
16:35 DDK3z not too keen on rebooting the server... how much downtime will that give?
16:35 ckoehler you may can find info in uname -a
16:35 m4rtijn hehe.. it was just a joke
16:35 chefan cat /etc/motd is a good try
16:35 ckoehler though i don't...
16:35 chefan uname -a usually doesn't give the distro, just kernel version and that it's a linux, if it's a linux
16:36 DDK3z im 80% sure its linux lol
16:36 chefan freebsd is more generous with info on uname afair
16:36 DDK3z defiinitely not windows
16:37 DDK3z which site do you guys standardise on with hosting? or do you use different hosts with different projects?
16:37 chefan another option is to ask netcraft.com
16:37 chefan if your server does not lie
16:37 chefan some do
16:37 chefan though that's rather weak security
16:37 DDK3z is debain a OS?
16:38 chefan debian is a linux distro
16:38 chefan pretty common with servers
16:39 DDK3z so linux is my OS and debain is my distro?
16:40 bayer in a templavoila datastructure, using the TypoScriptObjPath - can i insert additional TypoScript?
16:40 m4rtijn DDK3z - wikipedia.org?
16:40 m4rtijn ask it about debian
16:42 DDK3z thanks
16:43 chefan ts... "reboot and..." is dangerous as a joke with people who grew up with windows
16:44 chefan windows gets you so used to rebooting for every crap taht you are likely to hit the button before the joke can be tagged as such
16:44 m4rtijn hehe
16:44 m4rtijn its gotten better though.. since XP
16:44 m4rtijn i remember win98..
16:44 chefan yep, world has gotten closer to cure for cancer too
16:44 m4rtijn that was reboot fun
16:45 chefan that's what i hate most with vista, you start to appreciate XP
16:45 bayer or in other words: How can i access the lib.someObject in the typoscript part ?
16:45 m4rtijn hmm, its ok.. with a bit of tweaking it almost handles as XP
16:46 chefan btw: you never HAD to reboot, it was just recommended worst practice
16:47 chefan microsoft just was too lazy to come up with good docs how to restart services and an understandable structure WHICH services you had to restart
16:47 DDK3z what are the dangers of using my .htaccess ? file
16:47 DDK3z will aything drastic change?
16:47 m4rtijn depends.. just read a bit about .htaccess its very powerfull
16:47 m4rtijn but not difficult to understand
16:49 bayer here is a small part of a datasctructure that should explain what i want to do:
16:50 bayer http://phpfi.com/330892
16:50 bayer can anyone help?
16:51 maholtz680 you want an link "seppl" ?
16:51 maholtz680 lib.boxFooter is different?
16:51 bayer maholtz680, ah - no, this shouldnt be in there.
16:52 maholtz680 test it with: if you get Seppl, everything else should be easy
16:52 maholtz680 10 = TEXT
16:52 maholtz680 10.value = Seppl
16:52 bayer maholtz680, i want to set the link text within the typoscript, using the text given in field_left_link
16:52 youam is there some way to return the rows for a CONTENT element not by the table/select-properties but with an php function?
16:53 m4rtijn cu tomorow dudes
16:53 maholtz680 cu
16:53 maholtz680 @bayer: do you get Seppl?
16:54 bayer maholtz680, no, there is no output
16:55 bayer maholtz680, i'm preparing a gifbuilder object in the lib.boxFooter, and just want to set the text in the typoscript
16:55 DDK3z is the root of my typo3 installation in /mydomain/...?
16:55 maholtz680 but afaik lib.boxFooter is defined in an TypoScript Template?
16:55 bayer maholtz680, yes it is
16:55 bayer i get the image prepared there
16:55 maholtz680 so, you have to add the link there!
16:56 maholtz680 add the link there too
16:56 DDK3z or is it in httpdocs?
16:56 Henjo hi all - RealURL translating PostVars for a multiple language installation, is it possible? I can't seem to find something ...
16:57 bayer but this is a flexible content element, and i (think i) need to set it in the DS
16:57 maholtz680 well, i do not know:)
16:57 Recnelis Has anyone tried sending a e-mail from their extension? I can't seem to get it to send the mail suddenly..
16:57 bayer maholtz680, but do you know if it is possible at all?
16:58 bayer DDK3z, if you are on a linux box it is usually somewhere in /var/www/mydomain/
16:59 davidbrunnthaler hello hello, it's maybe a beginner-question but how do i include different css depending on the viewed page?
16:59 DDK3z ok thanks. so if im trying to use the _.htaccess file, i need to rename it .htaccess then move it to the root, which is var/www/mydomain/ ?
17:00 davidbrunnthaler i tried [globalVar = TSFE:id=2], [PIDinRootline=2] and all the others which i found
17:00 davidbrunnthaler but nothing worked for me
17:00 Recnelis davidbrunnthaler: Via Typoscript(Little tricky) or a extension(Easier)
17:00 bayer DDK3z, i dont know what you want to achieve, but you can put .htaccess files in there
17:01 bayer and you need to rename it to .htaccess
17:01 DDK3z im trying to make realURL work ... the documentation tells me i need to put htaccess in the root of my typo3 installation... thats wat im trying to achieve ?
17:01 Recnelis Does the funcion sendtheMail() return anything?
17:01 davidbrunnthaler mh which extension would that be?
17:02 bayer DDK3z, i dont know much about realURL, but i'd say just try it
17:03 davidbrunnthaler css_select?
17:04 Recnelis davidbrunnthaler: Can't remember.. look at the manual and see which u like best :)
17:04 maholtz680 @bayer: do it in the template and you will see if it is possible. i do not know if the field you need is there, but i would expect that
17:04 bayer maholtz680, of course it works in the template
17:05 davidbrunnthaler just to make sure http://spanien-mit-flair.de/index.php?id=2 this page would have the page_id 2? right?
17:05 maholtz680 @david: the conditions should work - you make an mistake!
17:05 maholtz680 yep
17:06 bayer maholtz680, its not about finding the right field, but finding the right way to access the prepared object in the typoscript section of the datastructure
17:07 davidbrunnthaler and i have to type only the conditions in my template setup field? and it should work?
17:07 tomyN hi, when placing an image, is there a way to include "onclick="MyWindow=window.open" ?
17:08 maholtz680 @bayer: sorry, can understand your problem. why dont you use only lib.yourobject and define it via typoscript?
17:09 tomyN also, how can I include <span> tags ?
17:12 paddyez hi
17:12 paddyez is there a way to make show outline property of a page visible to non admins?
17:15 maholtz680 @paddyez: specify "outline property"
17:15 paddyez if you click on a page you get "Advanced functions"
17:15 paddyez than you have "Show hidden elements:"
17:16 paddyez and just underneath it (when templa voila installed I suppose) show outline
17:17 maholtz680 i do not use templavoila, sorry
17:18 paddyez this describes it quite well http://tinyurl.com/6kua2e
17:18 paddyez especially see screenshots
17:19 paddyez the guy seems to have had the same problem
17:21 tomyN I'd like to inlcude a second menu, any documentation about how to do this around?
17:22 maholtz680 tsref?
17:23 bayer maholtz680, lib.myobject (an image) is defined via typoscript, and i use it in a flexible content element, where i want to set some image text dynamically
17:23 tomyN oy, never looked at this so far ... thanks!
17:25 maholtz680 @tomyN: do you have a website running yet? without reading tsref?
17:25 tomyN YEP, 4 sites so far
17:25 maholtz680 respect:)
17:26 maholtz680 but its worth dig into typoscript/tsref:)
17:26 maholtz680 @bayer: set your image text in typoscript, it is dynmically
17:26 tomyN well, I used two T3 templates, now I am digging through all this because I want to understand how it works
17:26 maholtz680 have an deep look in typoscript of css_styled_content later too
17:27 tomyN I could use a Turotial how to built menus. I have one working and need an extra one for Terms and Policy and all this nonsense. So far I have it just in the template with static links to dynamic pages. Not very elegant but it works
17:29 Recnelis I must admit it's the same thing here... but I've learn a bit here and there as I went along
17:29 Recnelis But mine is as it should be :)
17:32 bayer maholtz680, i think we're talking about different things
17:33 maholtz680 looks like
17:34 bayer thanks anyway
17:34 maholtz680 np, your problem is solved?
17:34 bayer no
17:34 bayer :(
17:35 maholtz680 you are sure it is not an typoscript issue?
17:36 bayer yes, its about flexible content elements
17:36 maholtz680 but your object (lib.xyz) is in the scope of on of that elements?
17:37 maholtz680 and there you should get the field values
17:37 maholtz680 and then you could render your image?
17:37 maholtz680 do not understand what the problem is
17:37 bayer do you know if i can use <typoscript> together with <typoscriptobjpath>?
17:38 bayer maholtz680, maybe thats the problem - the object is visible in the <typoscriptobjpath>, but i don't know how to access it later in the <typoscript> part
17:39 maholtz680 why you need that typoscript part?
17:39 maholtz680 you do not need it
17:39 bayer to set the text depending on the admins input
17:39 maholtz680 why cant you set it in lib.xyz?
17:40 bayer because the input is not known apriori
17:40 maholtz680 sure?
17:40 bayer yes :(
17:40 maholtz680 tested?
17:40 bayer i'm sure :)
17:40 bayer i set it to some dummy text
17:41 bayer but i need to reset the text depending on the instance
17:41 maholtz680 have to go now, good luck
17:42 bayer thx
17:45 tomyN could someone help me with this, please? http://pastebin.com/md593d76
18:10 tomyN I have two menus, separated by a spacer. What will I need to look for so that one part shows in menu1 the other part in menu2 - I don't know what keyword to use here for google, thanks!!!
18:15 princeexpedition I am getting a problem while using to old domain codes of Typo3 into new domain. everything else are working aprat from Language link are still showing links to the old domain
18:18 princeexpedition i have already changed localconfig sittings. but dont know what wrong with it
18:23 bayer is there a way to debug typoscript?
18:23 bayer like print out the current values?
18:30 princeexpedition someone may please help me?????????????
18:32 Gias hi, my hmenu vanished somehow i got two pages on my typo3 4.2 installation -both with the same template only special.value = different id, first page it runs fine second one no menu, any ideas?
18:36 tomyN Gias: not that I can answer this, but I am working on a menu right now too. Doesn't special define where the menu starts?
18:37 Gias yep that it does
18:37 tomyN I still get the whole menu into this field
18:37 Gias basically the id one above the pages you want to use as the menue
18:38 tomyN have a look please: http://pastebin.com/m7f571b8d
18:38 tomyN yes, I use the id of a spacer
18:40 tomyN well, here is the whole setup: http://pastebin.com/m5b544e85
18:41 Gias no CUR defined?
18:41 tomyN what is this?
18:41 Gias the active link
18:42 tomyN hhm, I am lost
18:42 Gias my example:
18:42 Gias Main_Menue =HMENU
18:42 Gias Main_Menue{
18:42 Gias special = directory
18:42 Gias special.value = 1
18:42 Gias 1 = TMENU
18:42 Gias 1{
18:42 Gias noBlur = 1
18:42 Gias wrap =
18:42 Gias NO = 1
18:42 Gias NO.linkWrap =
18:42 Gias NO.ATagParams = id="navipassive"
18:42 Gias NO.ATagTitle.field = abstract // description // subtitle // title
18:42 Gias CUR = 1
18:42 Gias CUR.linkWrap =
18:42 Gias CUR.ATagParams = id="naviactive"
18:42 Gias }
18:42 Gias cur is für the link that you used
18:42 Gias Im highlighting it over css
18:43 tomyN that would go into the script for menu_2 right?
18:44 Gias yeah should wander into temp.menu_2.1 {
18:45 maholtz @tomyN: seems you did not secify special?
18:45 tomyN the id ..., like "Spacer for Bottom Menu" ?
18:45 tomyN hold on, special I thought I did ...
18:45 tomyN yes, in Menu_2 "temp.menu_2.special.value=29"
18:46 maholtz i mean special = directory or speical = list
18:47 tomyN uuhm ?
18:47 tomyN no, I tried it and the site gave me an error
18:47 dot1 yeop guys how can I retrieve the entry point in an page extension ?
18:48 tomyN this: temp.menu_2.special=directory ?
18:48 tomyN followed by the value ?
18:51 tomyN oh, should I move those pages into the subdirectory of the spacer?
18:52 Gias okay a riddle for you experts : as long as this code :
18:52 Gias page.headerData.10 = TEXT
18:52 Gias page.headerData.10.value(
18:53 Gias <style type="text/css">
18:53 Gias a {color:black;text-decoration:none;}
18:53 Gias a:hover{text-decoration:underline;}
18:53 Gias body{background:#58a458;font-family:arial,helvetica;}
18:53 Gias is in my template the content is shown , if i remove it no content, but it does not display in the header as supposed? whats this?
18:56 tomyN it works now! I missed to move those pages one level below the spacer, aargh
18:56 tomyN thanks!!!
19:00 HardPhuck hey guys
19:01 HardPhuck if i have a news item, is it possible for visitors to comment in but the comments are not published at all but rather sent to the webmaster?
19:02 tomyN one more question, it creates a line break after each menu item, how can I take this out? Is this css related or a part of TS?
19:05 tomyN is this causing it: <div class="menu2"> | </div>
19:08 tomyN k, it does, thanks .
19:08 HardPhuck tomyN
19:09 HardPhuck what browser do you use
19:09 tomyN Firefox on Mac
19:10 HardPhuck install firebug
19:10 HardPhuck or do you already have it?
19:10 tomyN what does it do?
19:11 HardPhuck its a web developer's best friend :)
19:11 tomyN I could need a best friend, so lonely ...
19:11 HardPhuck you right click on an element and select option INSPECT
19:11 tomyN I have no coworkers
19:11 tomyN k
19:11 HardPhuck and then it shows you css styles applied to an element
19:11 HardPhuck and much much more
19:11 tomyN cool
19:12 tomyN installing it right now
19:12 HardPhuck but thats like the fastest way to determine what is wrong
19:12 HardPhuck okay brb going out for a cigarette
19:12 tomyN could I replace <div> with <a> ?
19:12 HardPhuck yes you can edit html live with it
19:12 HardPhuck for previews
19:12 HardPhuck brb
19:12 tomyN trying to avoid a paragraph but though a is for links, someone told me I could do this
19:21 princeexpedition i have uploaded to typo3 folder from one host to another but there are some links are still indicate to the old host address. Even i have made some changes into localconfig
19:21 princeexpedition please help me
19:22 princeexpedition and even i deleted to all cache
19:25 princeexpedition I have uploaded to typo3 folder from one host to another. but there are some links are still indicates to old host address. even i made some changes into localconfig
19:26 princeexpedition someone please help me
19:26 Denyerec checked the baseURL in the template?
19:26 tomyN could I add a few words at the beginning? What's the syntax? linkWrap=|*| |&nbsp; &#124; &nbsp;|*| |*|
19:27 tomyN it's a menu and I want to have the copyright note at the beginning
19:27 Denyerec tomyN - pastie your whole code?
19:27 Denyerec www.pastie.org
19:28 princeexpedition <Denyerec> i have checked and even i deleted all cache
19:29 tomyN http://pastebin.org/50304
19:30 tomyN princeexpedition: import force uid? I remember having a problem like this and the force option did it for me
19:31 Denyerec princeexpedition - you also didn't listen ;)
19:31 tomyN I use the autoparser extension, Denyerec
19:31 Denyerec princeexpedition: Have you checked the baseURL in the template?
19:31 Denyerec tomyN - past your TS for the menu into pastie
19:33 HardPhuck anyone installed typo3 skype extension?
19:34 tomyN Denyerec: http://pastebin.org/50306
19:35 tomyN if you see Waffles with Durian Fruit Flavor, don't buy them, sooo weird - really don't know why it is called the king of fruits
19:36 princeexpedition Denyerec: i have checked it
19:37 Denyerec Ok
19:37 Denyerec Hmm
19:37 Denyerec Durian is just plain WEIRD
19:38 Denyerec ok tomyN: http://pastebin.org/50308
19:39 tomyN Yesterday I had all day long this disgust on my mind and could tell why. Today I read coincidentally on the package of those waffles, DURIAN, eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww
19:39 Denyerec :/
19:39 tomyN couldn't tell of course
19:39 Denyerec I think the only good thing about durian is the texture of the fruit itself
19:39 Denyerec so anytyhing with durian *flavour* is going to be nasty
19:39 tomyN nahah,
19:40 tomyN there is also a camouflage fruit "JackFruit" looks almost the same, and the flavour, eeeeewwwwww again
19:41 tomyN so, could I replace the <div> tag with something else? Also, T3 filters out my span tags, which I'd like to keep
20:03 tomyN I want to link contents from one site to another. Now, I have a number of records on site 1, would I need to link to each of them, or could I link to the whole page? I believe a shortcut would show the site like it is on site2, thus with a different design. What's the best way to do this?
22:24 isolysis does anyone know where I can prevent the <dd><dl> tags from being wrapped around the url links in news Single view? all the links are like <dd><a href="/blah">www.example.com</a></dd>
22:58 Phlogi isolysis: see ts i guess or template
22:59 isolysis Phlogi: i've been looking but couldnt find anything, im not that experienced with this aspect of typo3
22:59 isolysis in template for single view, it just has ###NEWS_LINKS### and thats it
22:59 isolysis no sign of dd or dl tags in there
23:00 Phlogi ok
23:00 Phlogi then its int the ts of tt_news
23:01 Phlogi you may use the object browser to find it
23:07 rodi_ hi there
23:07 rodi_ could anybody tell whats the best way to access the used charset from a frontend extension?

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