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09:00 m4rtijn morning all
09:44 xcess Hi, I have a multilingual website and I am trying to implement Index search for the same. It's working but with a small problem. For a any language when I search it displays results from all the languages. Is it possible to restrict this to the current language?
10:00 youam what rights does an user need to see the file system tree in DAM's media/file module?
10:36 m4rtijn youam - look for DAM in the access list
11:38 m4rtijn whats up dudes
11:38 m4rtijn :p
11:44 m4rtijn SILENCE!
11:55 youam m4rtijn: in the web/access module? i don't see anything with DAM in it there. the user name starts with a _, does that matter?
11:56 youam i'm trying to set up the dam indexing cronjob, it says there are a few new files, but it does not write them into the database
12:10 Denyerec Shhh m4rtijn
12:10 Denyerec you'll cause activity if you keep this up.
12:10 Denyerec :)
12:10 m4rtijn I dont think it matters youam..
12:11 m4rtijn but im quite sure there must be some mention of DAM in the access list
12:13 m4rtijn youam - not in web/access
12:14 m4rtijn but in the user rights.. user-admin
13:08 Deetz Googling isn't turning up much but is there a way to set the return-path or return email for t3lib_formmail or t3lib_htmlmail
13:08 Deetz I can send mail using php but the send test mail doesn't work I think because we're on a shared server
13:17 davidbrunnthaler is there a way to define which page he should show when the BEuser logs in?
13:20 swemark yes
13:20 swemark in that users settings
13:21 davidbrunnthaler mh really? where? i don't mean the db-mount points but rather a start-page
13:22 davidbrunnthaler so that it doesn't show the default greetings page - but on login shows the list-page with a selected page
14:37 swemark davidbrunnthaler: in the user setup page :)
14:38 swemark Anyone know of a nice tool to stresstest a typo3 site?
14:39 m4rtijn hmm?
14:39 m4rtijn why would you stresstest it?
14:39 m4rtijn that depends on the server - host..
14:40 m4rtijn not on typo3
14:40 m4rtijn and your hoster - if it is a quality oriented hoster - should stress test its servers
14:45 Deetz m4rtijn I'm trying to use a mailform, but I'm in a shared server
14:45 m4rtijn okay.. :p
14:45 Deetz using a basic php script I can send mails but it doesn't work with typo3
14:45 m4rtijn what does the install tool say about sendmail?
14:45 Deetz is there some way to set the return-path
14:46 Deetz it says it's there but testing the t3lib_htmlmail nothing happens
14:46 m4rtijn .. what does it say about the sender email adress
14:46 m4rtijn is it null@ ?
14:46 m4rtijn null@domain
14:46 Deetz yeah
14:46 Deetz exactly
14:46 m4rtijn theres your problem sir
14:46 m4rtijn ;)
14:47 Deetz where can you set this though? I've tried googling up t3lib_htmlmail etc etc
14:47 m4rtijn erm.. normally those shared hoster have some script setting - where you can define the default e-mail account
14:47 m4rtijn especially for sendmail
14:47 Deetz yeah
14:47 m4rtijn which hoster is it?
14:47 Deetz so I shouldn't even focus on the sendmail test in the installer because it will always try (obscured mail address)
14:47 Deetz Hetzner
14:48 m4rtijn the installer is just an indicator
14:48 m4rtijn it doesnt send because theres no default email address specified
14:48 m4rtijn thats why mailform does not work either
14:49 Deetz no default email address specified for sendmail
14:49 m4rtijn yep
14:49 Deetz Hm but when I do use something like
14:49 m4rtijn I know from some pages I have on a shared host.. I have to go to the control panel or whatever its called..
14:49 Deetz yeah
14:49 m4rtijn go to - script setting
14:49 m4rtijn and there I can chose the default email acc
14:50 Deetz using mail() with php it works and I presume uses sendmail
14:50 m4rtijn then it workd
14:50 Deetz I see
14:50 m4rtijn try giving them a call.. or search the FAQ for smth like that
14:50 Deetz kay kay thanks :D
14:50 m4rtijn yw
14:51 m4rtijn else - theres 2 alternatives
14:51 m4rtijn 1 - a dirty hack
14:51 Deetz mm dirty
14:52 m4rtijn 2 - an extension to use smtp :)
14:52 Deetz http://email.about.com/cs/phpemailtips/qt/et031202.htm is the amazing script I used which worked
14:52 Deetz so I would think that sendmail has a default email address
14:52 m4rtijn yeah it depends on the script
14:52 m4rtijn thats what u would do in the dirty version
14:52 m4rtijn change the script
14:52 m4rtijn but sucks.. if u update typo3 its gone
14:53 Deetz and then when you upgrade down the raod boom
14:53 Deetz yeah
14:53 m4rtijn unless..
14:53 m4rtijn what version r u on?
14:53 Deetz 4.2
14:53 m4rtijn kk.. 4.2.1 ?
14:53 Deetz but running in compatibility mode hmm lemme see
14:53 Deetz yeah 4.2.1
14:53 m4rtijn k
14:57 davidbrunnthaler swemark: sry was a while gone.. can you be a little bit exacter?
14:58 swemark under User setup theres a setting "start page" somewhere
14:59 swemark selected page would be though though
14:59 swemark but atleast you can choose module to start with
14:59 davidbrunnthaler i only see a checkbox called Start up in the module 'Task Center'
15:00 davidbrunnthaler mh i still don't see what you're trying to show me
15:00 davidbrunnthaler which version of t3 do you have? i got 4.1.6
15:01 m4rtijn davidbrunnthaler - did u activate show secondary option palette?
15:02 davidbrunnthaler in "tools"-"user admin" i activated the secondary thingi
15:03 davidbrunnthaler but i still see no "start page" in "user"-"setup"
15:03 swemark hmm
15:04 porkpie hi guy,s
15:04 swemark davidbrunnthaler: 4.1.X?
15:04 davidbrunnthaler yeah i got 4.1.6
15:04 swemark theres your problem ;)
15:05 davidbrunnthaler do you have 4.2
15:05 davidbrunnthaler ?
15:05 swemark yeah
15:05 porkpie I am running 4.2.1 and added a new be group with the correct file mount and access levels but when I create a user and add this group they login and don't get any of the access ?
15:05 davidbrunnthaler to bad
15:05 swemark davidbrunnthaler: check repository if theres any plugin
15:06 davidbrunnthaler ok thx for your help
15:06 swemark davidbrunnthaler: np
15:06 davidbrunnthaler and jup there is an extension :)
15:07 swemark porkpie: on the user make sure that "usergroup inheritance" is set correct
15:07 swemark "Mount from groups"
15:07 porkpie swemark:where is the setting ???
15:07 swemark on the be user in useradmin
15:08 porkpie OK
15:09 porkpie swemark: can't see that optin
15:09 porkpie option
15:10 porkpie swemark: which tab
15:10 davidbrunnthaler and do someone know, what i can do about the ff3 bug?
15:12 dooz Hi there
15:12 dooz Where can I access the SVN of typo3 via web?
15:14 porkpie :(
15:14 dooz :-)
15:15 dooz I've made a check out 1 hour before... :-) and it is still checking out... *wait*
15:17 dooz 50 users and noone knows it?
15:17 porkpie swemark: are you still here? I can not find any usergroup inheritance
15:19 swemark https://svn.typo3.org/
15:20 swemark took me atleast one search to figure out
15:21 porkpie swemark: ?
15:21 swemark porkpie: it could be any number of things
15:22 swemark they dont get the accesslevel elements?
15:22 m4rtijn davidbrunnthaler - upgrade to 4.1.7 to get rid of the ff3 bug
15:22 porkpie swemark:yep also the mount as well
15:22 davidbrunnthaler jup i already found out
15:22 davidbrunnthaler thx
15:23 porkpie swemark: I will set it manually for the user to see what happens
15:24 davidbrunnthaler is it possible to uninstall an extension manually? i mean not from the extension manger
15:24 davidbrunnthaler i just locked myself out
15:25 swemark haha
15:25 swemark remove it from the localconf.php
15:25 swemark just the name of it
15:25 swemark and it will be uninstalled
15:29 porkpie swemark: still the same problem
15:29 davidbrunnthaler mh it's not working
15:29 porkpie swemark: this is strange
15:29 porkpie swemark: is there a doc on setting up groups
15:30 davidbrunnthaler i just can't select any link - no module works
15:30 davidbrunnthaler i installed the ff3 bugfix and the startup extension
15:32 swemark porkpie: google is your friend
15:32 porkpie swemark: I looked before I came here
15:35 tomyN hi, in TS, the get content cmd for Border, is it getBorder or something?
15:36 davidbrunnthaler in ie7 i just get session time out errors if i try to log in
15:36 davidbrunnthaler someone an idea?
15:36 m4rtijn clear cache
15:37 swemark remove all temp_localconf blabal
15:38 davidbrunnthaler at least safari let's me in
15:38 davidbrunnthaler ok it looks like it works
15:39 davidbrunnthaler yupi it works again
15:39 davidbrunnthaler thx guys
15:43 pa_col does anyone know if "extdeveval" works all well with 4.2.0?
15:43 pa_col can't find those Dev-Links mentioned in the core API...
15:47 tomyN hi, I thought it would be this, but it doesn't work: # GetBorder Column to render in "content_border"
15:47 tomyN subparts.content_border < styles.content.getBorder
15:47 tomyN subparts.content_border.value = content_border
15:47 dokma what's this second line for?
15:48 dokma first one should do it
15:48 tomyN I am not sure, I followed the Docu in Modern Template building
15:48 dokma I see
15:48 dokma well just try it without the second one
15:48 dokma if you did the rest right
15:48 dokma it should work like that
15:49 tomyN Well thisone works:
15:49 tomyN # GetRight Column to render in "content_right"
15:49 tomyN subparts.content_right < styles.content.getRight
15:49 tomyN subparts.content_right.value = content_right
15:49 tomyN not sure how to get Border
15:49 dokma you got it right
15:49 dokma but do you have any content in it?
15:49 tomyN yes
15:49 dokma does it get marked?
15:50 tomyN will try again it the syntax is right
15:50 tomyN oh, it works, aargh,
15:50 tomyN thanks!!!
16:02 davidbrunnthaler mh which label exactly should the "label_alt" (in the ext_table.php) change?
16:02 davidbrunnthaler http://www.tfa.w4y.at/___div/dl/typo3_label.png <-- this one in the "web" - "list" view?
16:11 roadrunn1r does anyone know where the 'title' with the uid 0 is saved in the database? i want to change the name because of a mistype. :(
16:12 davidbrunnthaler mh are you talking of pages or of content elements or of...?
16:13 roadrunn1r no nbot the content element - i mean the page mith the uid 0 which is the 'start' of the page tree (it has the 'world' as icon)
16:18 davidbrunnthaler i don't know where to change it in the backend
16:18 davidbrunnthaler but if your looking into "typo3conf/localconf.php"
16:18 davidbrunnthaler you will find it
16:20 roadrunn1r thats it :) many thanks... and i thought that i have to find it in the db. :)
16:21 davidbrunnthaler np
16:43 tomyN in MailForm, is it possible to include a line break "Name: | *name = input,40 |" ? Thanks!
16:46 tomyN ??
16:46 tomyN none one here anymore?
16:50 Denyerec once upon a time
16:50 Denyerec before 4.2 broke lots of things
16:50 Denyerec you could display users along with the groups they belonged to
16:50 tomyN hi there
16:50 Denyerec now all I get is a list of tickboxes, and no way to say "OK, show me these things"
16:52 tomyN Denyerec: I am using different mailforms all with the same CSS, could I include additional definitions directly in the form? Or, a simply line break would do it, if YOU know lemme ME know, please :-)
16:52 Denyerec additoional definitions ?
16:53 tomyN like in: Email:* | *email=input,40 |
16:53 tomyN I have Operators, City, Phone,
16:54 tomyN short words are in the same line with the input field while longer words create a line break
16:54 tomyN I could work with margin settings in the stylesheet, but that changes all other form formats too
16:54 tomyN which I don't want
17:20 Denyerec another really shit thing about the 4.2 backend skin
17:20 Denyerec is it seems to put EVERYTHING in a 800px high box
17:20 Denyerec so I'm always scrolling scrolling scrolling
17:29 hanoul In my admin back end, when I select Web-->View, I get the little penciles that let me edit page content. But when I log in as a non admin editor, I don't get those little editing pencils in Web-->View. How can I set up my editors so they can get that?
17:29 ckoehler hanoul: look into FE editing
17:30 ckoehler you can enable that somewhere i think
17:30 ckoehler UserTS or so
17:31 hanoul You mean I should set up my BE editors as FE editors?
17:40 ckoehler hanoul: well, yeah
17:40 ckoehler it's called FE editing
17:40 ckoehler but it requires a BE user
17:46 hanoul Thanks guys. I just found out what to do: I added admPanel{enbable.edit=1} to the TSConfig entry of the user. Now I get the editing pencils for that user.
18:10 Denyerec just why IS the backend stupidly height restricted ?
18:10 Denyerec Grrr
18:10 Denyerec 4.2 makes me madder each time I use it
18:11 Denyerec they also broke it for Opera
18:11 Denyerec which is sad.
18:12 ckoehler it works in ff
18:12 ckoehler there is a js script that sets the height
18:12 ckoehler but it doesn't work in opera
18:12 ckoehler which i also use
18:16 tomyN how can I clean up missing files in the Database Relations?
18:23 tomyN a dead channel again?
18:24 tomyN looks like no-one uses Typo3 to me
18:47 ckoehler tomyN: mailing list
18:48 tomyN ??
18:48 tomyN tell me more about this
18:48 ckoehler news.netfielders.de
18:48 tomyN k
18:48 tomyN must be new
18:48 ckoehler joker
18:48 ckoehler it's years old
18:49 tomyN no-one mentioned it so far
18:49 tomyN usergroup russia, cool ...
18:57 tomyN uuhm, I haven't figured out Domain Masking, Godaddy's tool didn't work. I tried Domain Records in Typo3, didn't work. Is there a way to include it into a htaccess file?
19:11 davidbrunnthaler who can tell me, why my own inline-object won't get the header of the title-field?
19:17 tomyN if you have multiple web sites in one Typo3 page tree, how would you mask the domains so that the address bar would not show the domain and directory in which T3 was installed? Thanks!
19:48 XiXora hello?
20:00 ckoehler hello?
20:00 XiXora ahh it works :p
20:01 ckoehler apparently :)
20:01 XiXora just wondering, trying to set be user's and groups
20:01 XiXora but if i log in as them
20:01 XiXora the modules are all missing except the help one
21:21 volund hello
21:23 volund I am having a problem with an extension, perhaps someone can help me: I've created an extension using the kickstarter that includes a table, and the rows of this table can be added as records to any page. Adding records for this table works fine, however when I edit a created record, I am presented with a page with no fields- as if the table had no columns
21:24 volund I've followed the tutorials and analyzed other extensions that don't have this problem, but cannot find where this may be changed. Is there a function similar to t3lib_extMgm::addToInsertRecords that allow edit records?
21:28 XiXora i think everyone is out on a good night out :P
21:29 volund ah, it's friday evening over there huh
21:29 volund well thanks XiXora, if it wasn't for your reply I would have thought this was a conspiracy theory
21:29 XiXora it is here anyway
21:30 XiXora i'm having prob with be users
21:30 volund do you want to poke your eye out with a screwdriver with me? That's my solution to this problem
21:31 XiXora heh i wish
21:32 volund well good luck with your be users
21:32 chefan wow
21:32 chefan the kind of people you want to ask if they do paypal befor offering solutions

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