| 09:09 |
hever |
Hello, the extension rgimages doesn't work for me, what means it doesn't play my local FLV files.. There is no player the page is just empty if I use Text and Images/Videos... I think this is because I've not set up the JW Media Player. But I don't know how. Is there a extra extension for it ? |
| 09:11 |
hever |
Somebody get rgmediaimages with typo 4.2.1 run ? |
| 09:59 |
devcow |
I made a hidden area for the customers. when the customer logs in i want that he get the hidden site. i created this but when i switch to another menue element and go back to the hidden customer area my site content is empty only the user name and the logout button is displayed my content not. any idea? |
| 10:15 |
m4rtijn |
hi all |
| 10:17 |
devcow |
hi m4rtijn |
| 10:18 |
devcow |
I made a hidden area for the customers. when the customer logs in i want that he get the hidden site. i created this but when i switch to another menue element and go back to the hidden customer area my site content is empty only the user name and the logout button is displayed my content not. any idea? |
| 10:18 |
devcow |
thanks in advance ;-) |
| 10:20 |
m4rtijn |
hmmkay, so .. u created a usergroup right? |
| 10:21 |
m4rtijn |
devcow |
| 10:21 |
devcow |
yes and a website user |
| 10:21 |
m4rtijn |
hm? |
| 10:21 |
m4rtijn |
a frontend user.. |
| 10:22 |
m4rtijn |
which belongs to that group |
| 10:22 |
devcow |
yes |
| 10:22 |
m4rtijn |
okay.. |
| 10:22 |
m4rtijn |
then u restricted acces to the page .. or did u restrict access to the page content? |
| 10:23 |
devcow |
i made a page with access right for the user |
| 10:23 |
m4rtijn |
... the usergroup probably |
| 10:23 |
m4rtijn |
not the user |
| 10:23 |
devcow |
yes |
| 10:24 |
m4rtijn |
did u restrict any access on the content as well? |
| 10:24 |
m4rtijn |
because you only have to do that for the page.. not for the content |
| 10:25 |
devcow |
yes i did this |
| 10:25 |
m4rtijn |
.. u dont have to |
| 10:25 |
devcow |
ok |
| 10:25 |
m4rtijn |
remove those restrictions and try again |
| 10:26 |
devcow |
ok |
| 10:31 |
devcow |
<m4rtijn> i got it thanks!!! |
| 10:32 |
devcow |
<m4rtijn> on this new site it would be cool to also have the usernam and logout button which setting do i need for this? |
| 10:34 |
m4rtijn |
u can just use the plugin for loggin in |
| 10:34 |
m4rtijn |
which typo3 version do u use? |
| 10:35 |
devcow |
4.1.6 |
| 10:35 |
m4rtijn |
did u install new login box? |
| 10:35 |
devcow |
not yet |
| 10:35 |
devcow |
i used the standard typo3 login |
| 10:35 |
m4rtijn |
I normally use that |
| 10:36 |
m4rtijn |
but apart from that I 'd recommend u upgrade to 4.1.7 |
| 10:36 |
m4rtijn |
thats the latest stable.. |
| 10:36 |
m4rtijn |
fro 4.1 |
| 10:36 |
m4rtijn |
search the extension repository for new login box |
| 10:37 |
devcow |
can i combine new login box with the standard typo3 login or do i have to made i all with the new login box |
| 10:39 |
m4rtijn |
no.. u can use whichever u like.. |
| 10:39 |
devcow |
nice |
| 10:39 |
m4rtijn |
but.. the newlogin is a bit better |
| 10:39 |
devcow |
okay |
| 10:39 |
m4rtijn |
u could just replace the standard with the new one.. |
| 10:40 |
devcow |
fine |
| 10:40 |
m4rtijn |
instead.. u could also just place the standard one on the page u want |
| 10:40 |
m4rtijn |
then there should be a logout thingie |
| 10:40 |
m4rtijn |
but im not sure.. I always use newlogin |
| 10:40 |
m4rtijn |
the new login box.. is now part of the new typo3 version 4.2.1 .. |
| 10:41 |
m4rtijn |
its not an extension anymore |
| 10:41 |
devcow |
ok should i upgrade to 4.2.1 it is this possible |
| 10:41 |
devcow |
? |
| 10:42 |
m4rtijn |
it is possible |
| 10:43 |
m4rtijn |
upgrading to 4.1.7 goes without any extra work.. |
| 10:43 |
m4rtijn |
upgrading to 4.2.1 requires the installation tool - database analyzer |
| 10:43 |
m4rtijn |
and just one click in there.. |
| 10:43 |
devcow |
ok how do upgrade to 4.1.7? |
| 10:44 |
m4rtijn |
replace /t3lib and /typo3 folders |
| 10:44 |
devcow |
ok |
| 10:53 |
devcow |
upgrade done ;-) |
| 10:57 |
devcow |
what means typo3 extension status obsolete? |
| 10:58 |
m4rtijn |
in 4.2.1 yes |
| 10:58 |
m4rtijn |
in 4.1.7 no |
| 10:58 |
Roofiej0 |
Hi all |
| 10:58 |
m4rtijn |
hi |
| 10:58 |
Roofiej0 |
Can somebody help me plz? |
| 10:58 |
m4rtijn |
just ask Roofiej0 |
| 10:58 |
devcow |
okay which new login extensions shell i use because there are 3 i think |
| 10:58 |
Roofiej0 |
How can I make an RSS feed from my tt_news? |
| 10:58 |
m4rtijn |
new login box devcow |
| 10:58 |
Roofiej0 |
I can't find a good working extesion |
| 10:58 |
Roofiej0 |
extension* |
| 10:59 |
m4rtijn |
hmm, Roofiej0 there are some users here which I know that they're using rss on tt_news |
| 11:00 |
m4rtijn |
but I dont think they are awake yet.. |
| 11:00 |
Roofiej0 |
Can't you help me? |
| 11:01 |
devcow |
m4rtijn you mean this New loginbox extended with redirect function (bzb_newloginbox_redirect, 1.0.0) or? |
| 11:01 |
m4rtijn |
no |
| 11:01 |
m4rtijn |
newloginbox |
| 11:01 |
m4rtijn |
thats the extension name |
| 11:02 |
devcow |
this Newloginbox no GRSP (newloginbox_linkfactory, 0.0.1) ? |
| 11:03 |
devcow |
maybe i have a bad mirror |
| 11:03 |
devcow |
there are many extensions with the same name thats confused me |
| 11:04 |
m4rtijn |
http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/?tx_terfe_pi1[view]=search&no_cache=1&tx_terfe_pi1[sword]=new+login+box |
| 11:05 |
devcow |
thx |
| 11:14 |
m4rtijn |
youre welcome |
| 11:24 |
Fanty |
man the extension manager is killing me :( |
| 11:25 |
m4rtijn |
Roofiej0 - sorry i never used RSS - but if you ask again around later u'll probably get some help |
| 11:25 |
m4rtijn |
hi Fanty - whats up? |
| 11:25 |
Fanty |
Anyone know how to get it to eat foreign key sql from ext_tables.sql? It "works" with only one foreign key but with two it ignores one of them |
| 11:26 |
m4rtijn |
Fanty - I dont :) |
| 11:40 |
devcow |
m4rtijn how do i add a user to the new login box or take my existing one in the documentation of the newloginbox there is no link to this. |
| 11:44 |
devcow |
m4rtijn made it not red the tut exact sry ;-) |
| 11:58 |
Fanty |
anyone have any idea if the extension manager is going to get a workover anytime soon that would allow basic support for a little more advanced db use than what it is now? not being able to use the most basic indexes etc like unique or tuppel primary keys really *really* suck |
| 12:05 |
m4rtijn |
fanty - the extension manager? |
| 12:05 |
Fanty |
isen't it the em that processes the ext_tables.sql file? |
| 12:06 |
m4rtijn |
i dont know.. but I dont think the EM will ever get advanced db utils.. |
| 12:08 |
Fanty |
a tuppel primary key or a unique key isen't advanced :( |
| 12:13 |
m4rtijn |
hmm, still the EM is to install - uninstall - import extensions. why would there be db access? |
| 12:14 |
Denyerec |
installing sample content perhaps? |
| 12:17 |
m4rtijn |
I rly like the ease of use of the EM |
| 12:18 |
m4rtijn |
I guess making it more complex isnt a good idea |
| 12:18 |
Fanty |
not sure what you mean. Lots of extensions needs to modify the database - and does so when you install them |
| 12:19 |
m4rtijn |
yep but it goed without any user interferance.. just the click of a button |
| 12:20 |
Fanty |
allowing me to use the most basic relational db tools wouldn't have any impact on the interface? |
| 12:24 |
Fanty |
I need the EM to create the tables I need when the install button is pressed. The EM can't understand anything but the most basic SQL - and here lie my problem since making the most basic relational databases without having the database do what it was made for makes my job a lot harder. I really got better things to do than writing stuff the database can do for me and can do so much better. Anyways, lunch. /stops whining :) |
| 12:25 |
m4rtijn |
.. hehe.. gotcha.. that sucks yes |
| 12:39 |
dirkounet |
hello, got a weired problem with typo3 4.2.1 |
| 12:40 |
dirkounet |
installed the new typo3 and created a pagetree but cannot delete pages recursively |
| 12:40 |
dirkounet |
i changed the user settings and allowed the rm -RF option |
| 12:41 |
dirkounet |
but still does not work, always get the error: "attempt to delete pages recursively" any hints? |
| 12:50 |
dirkounet |
no one any idea? |
| 14:16 |
jangla |
anyone able to help with a little gifbuilder (in php) issue? |
| 14:16 |
jangla |
here's my code: http://phpfi.com/334197 |
| 14:16 |
jangla |
basically what I want to do is add an ID to each image |
| 14:17 |
m4rtijn |
do you need it to be in php? |
| 14:18 |
jangla |
yup |
| 14:19 |
jangla |
it's part of an extension |
| 14:19 |
jangla |
I'll happily take the current image title field as the ID |
| 14:21 |
m4rtijn |
maybe this function can help? lib.parseFunc_RTE.nonTypoTagStdWrap.encapsLines |
| 14:22 |
m4rtijn |
or simply encapsLines |
| 14:22 |
jangla |
and is that function available in 3.8.x? |
| 14:22 |
m4rtijn |
encapslines yes |
| 14:25 |
dirkounet |
another question concerning Templavoila |
| 14:25 |
dirkounet |
created Template TO/TS as usually and want to create some content elements, but just get an empty page and cannot choose between text, text w image etc... |
| 14:25 |
dirkounet |
using T3 4.2.1 php 5 |
| 14:25 |
dirkounet |
lates TV Version |
| 14:25 |
dirkounet |
have absoluteley no idea why that happens |
| 14:30 |
jangla |
found encapsLines on the wiki but I'm not sure how that relates to my problem as it seems to deal with altering all tags on a page...or am I missing something?! |
| 14:30 |
m4rtijn |
u can change single tags with it |
| 14:31 |
m4rtijn |
hmm, I m not sure if it can help u.. was just busy translating some wiki pages that deal with it.. sorry.. :S |
| 14:33 |
m4rtijn |
I think you're right.. and it doesnt help :) |
| 14:33 |
jangla |
bum :) |
| 14:42 |
jangla |
So anyone else? |
| 14:43 |
jangla |
here's my code: http://phpfi.com/334197 |
| 14:43 |
jangla |
basically what I want to do is add an ID to each image |
| 14:44 |
Phlogi |
jangla: the id is based on what? |
| 14:44 |
Phlogi |
should the id just be unique on the page or what? |
| 14:44 |
jangla |
it will be taken from the image title |
| 14:44 |
jangla |
at this point all I need to work out is how to get an ID (any ID) in there in the first place - then I can play with what the ID will actually be. |
| 14:46 |
Phlogi |
hmm I don't see a possibility in tsrefe |
| 14:46 |
Phlogi |
maybe you need to wrap it with a span or something |
| 14:48 |
Phlogi |
jangla: maybe you can do it with a imageLinkWrap |
| 14:49 |
jangla |
they're not links though |
| 14:49 |
maholtz680 |
@jangla: what means add an id to an image? <img id=xyz ? |
| 14:50 |
m4rtijn |
hi maholtz |
| 14:50 |
Phlogi |
jangla: no of course.. sorry... just use stdWrap then |
| 14:50 |
jangla |
@maholtz680 = yes, I want each image to be <img id="IDName"/> |
| 14:51 |
Phlogi |
jangla: on the image |
| 14:51 |
Phlogi |
I think you will parse that $conf['file'] = 'GIFBUILDER'; to an IMAGE object? |
| 14:52 |
jangla |
the PHP I posted bascially gets passed back to it's parent function and then is returned to: return $this->pi_wrapInBaseClass($comm.$iconContent); |
| 14:53 |
Phlogi |
jangla: does that work already? |
| 14:53 |
Phlogi |
on what object do you use file = ? |
| 14:53 |
Phlogi |
it should be an image object I think |
| 14:53 |
jangla |
yes - everything already works except there's no id on the images. I need the ID to add prototip code to each image |
| 14:54 |
Phlogi |
but where is the code about the image object? |
| 14:54 |
Phlogi |
there you could try a stdWra |
| 14:54 |
Phlogi |
p |
| 14:55 |
Phlogi |
you pass that conf array to an IMAGE obj. I guess |
| 14:57 |
Phlogi |
on that top object try: .stdWrap.addParams = id=foo |
| 14:57 |
Phlogi |
of course in php |
| 14:58 |
Phlogi |
sorry its |
| 14:58 |
Phlogi |
.addParams.id= foo |
| 14:58 |
jangla |
think I've got a way around it - added this to the procedure that calls the gifbuilder: $cellValue = "<span id=".$icon['title'].">".$cellValue."</span>"; |
| 14:58 |
jangla |
it's dirty but it works |
| 14:59 |
Phlogi |
my solution is clean and works |
| 14:59 |
Phlogi |
I just tried it |
| 15:02 |
Phlogi |
jangla: :p |
| 15:03 |
jangla |
lol - I'll give t a go too :) |
| 15:05 |
jangla |
when you say "top object", do you mean the gifbuilder? i.e. $conf['file.']['addParams.']['id'] = $this->iconData['fulltext']; |
| 15:07 |
Phlogi |
hmm not sure actually.... can you just create a file object? I mean all that config must belong to an image IMHO |
| 15:08 |
Phlogi |
or how is it parsed afterwards? jangla |
| 15:08 |
jangla |
let me post a little more on phpfi so you can see it properly... |
| 15:09 |
Phlogi |
usually a gifbuilder image looks like: |
| 15:09 |
Phlogi |
lib.subTitle.7 = IMAGE |
| 15:09 |
Phlogi |
lib.subTitle.7.file = GIFBUILDER |
| 15:09 |
jose |
hi all |
| 15:10 |
jose |
anybody worked with seminar module |
| 15:11 |
dirkounet |
i try it again: since i set up a new T3 instance on T3 4.2.1 with php5 mysql 4 and Templavoila 1.3.6 i cannot create any content element |
| 15:11 |
dirkounet |
i only get an empty page in the backend |
| 15:11 |
ries2 |
. |
| 15:11 |
ries2 |
Hmmm |
| 15:11 |
dirkounet |
does anyone experienced the same ? |
| 15:11 |
jangla |
http://phpfi.com/334215 |
| 15:11 |
jangla |
@Phlogi |
| 15:13 |
ries2 |
. |
| 15:13 |
ries2 |
strange... |
| 15:14 |
m4rtijn |
hi ries |
| 15:16 |
ries2 |
Hey m4rtijn |
| 15:16 |
maholtz680 |
@dirkounet: i would suggest, that there is an extension which loads and has an php error in it |
| 15:16 |
maholtz680 |
look in php error log or deactivate as many extensions as possible |
| 15:21 |
ries2 |
... |
| 15:21 |
ries2 |
Hmmm |
| 15:24 |
ries2 |
. |
| 15:24 |
ries2 |
what username do you see when I type? |
| 15:25 |
m4rtijn |
ries2 |
| 15:25 |
ries2 |
strange.... |
| 15:25 |
maholtz680 |
@jangla: IMAGE.params = id="123" |
| 15:25 |
ries2 |
somebody stole my nick I think |
| 15:25 |
Phlogi |
jangla: as I said you pass it to $icon = $this->cObj->cObjGetSingle('IMAGE',$conf); |
| 15:26 |
Phlogi |
maholtz680 solution is a bit shorter yes :) |
| 15:28 |
Phlogi |
jangla: so $conf['params'] = 'id=123'; should work right maholtz680? |
| 15:28 |
ries |
ok |
| 15:28 |
ries |
Yeaaa I am back :D |
| 15:28 |
Phlogi |
lol ries |
| 15:28 |
m4rtijn |
hehe |
| 15:28 |
maholtz680 |
@Phlogi: i hope so:) |
| 15:31 |
Phlogi |
hehe |
| 15:33 |
jangla |
woohoo! that worked - thanks maholtz680 and Phlogi. |
| 15:34 |
Phlogi |
jangla: np |
| 15:35 |
dirkounet |
once again, when trying to create a content on T3 4.2.1 Templavoila 1.3.6 I only get a white page and ge following error: |
| 15:35 |
dirkounet |
PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 2 passed to t3lib_div::implodeArrayForUrl() must be an array, null given, called in /var/www/hw/typo3conf/ext/templavoila/mod1/db_new_content_el.php on line 285 and defined in /var/www/typo3_src-4.2.1/t3lib/class.t3lib_div.php on line 1635 |
| 15:35 |
dirkounet |
do not really know how to handle that |
| 15:36 |
Phlogi |
me neither dirkounet, check your installation.... |
| 15:37 |
dirkounet |
its strange, that its said that i have Templavoila 1.1.1 but when checking details about the installed TV Version it sais 1.3.6. |
| 15:42 |
snoy_ms |
dirkounet: reinstall the extension.... |
| 15:42 |
dirkounet |
did a manual update to 1.3.6 seems to work |
| 15:43 |
snoy_ms |
dirkounet: cool ;-) |
| 15:56 |
Roofiej0 |
hi, where can I find :"What to display"? |
| 16:07 |
jangla |
Phlogi - the game's not quite over. I didn't realise there's another function for a sligthly different type of icon that doesn't use cObjGetSingle. Instead it calls: $icon = $this->cObj->IMAGE($conf["image."]); and for some reason, using $conf['params'] doesn't do anything. |
| 16:14 |
jangla |
Phlogi - don't worry about it, got it sorted :) |
| 16:15 |
Jigal |
I have a problem with the combination TemplaVoila, DAM (and air_filemanager as frontend). My colleague only gets DAM working when he set the GRSP on the page where the air_filemanager lives to the Media folder, but then TV can't find it's template configurations anymore :-( |
| 16:16 |
Jigal |
I can't find anything in the DAM documentation about using the GRSP, but that seems the only way to get it working... |
| 16:19 |
maholtz680 |
@Jigal: i think that it not an DAM issue but an air_filemanager |
| 16:23 |
Jigal |
@maholtz680: there is a very cryptic paragraph about the media folder in the air_filemanager documentation: |
| 16:24 |
Jigal |
@maholtz680: "If you want to set the access for your root-dir, you can edit the record in the list-module. By default, the records are stored in the media-folder of the dam. If you use dam with the default-configuration, you don't see this folder. Just change this setting in the extension-manager (dam), or use the storage-property in Typoscript, to define a different storage-folder." |
| 16:24 |
isolysis |
hi, i am updating some of my extensions with the ter2 update, but I get a message like this for one of them : "adodb: A difference between the originally installed version and the current was detected!" - what does that mean and should i be concerned or just update it as normal? |
| 16:25 |
maholtz680 |
@Jigal: sry, do not know what that should mean:( |
| 16:26 |
Jigal |
@maholtz680: me neither :-( |
| 16:38 |
Jigal |
@isolysis: are there any files of that extension somehow modified after it was installed? The EM can detect if files are possibly changed. Maybe ter2 update will warn you before you overwrite modified extensions with a newer version of the standard version? |
| 16:39 |
isolysis |
Jigal: yes there is about 30 or so filenames highlighted in red - but i don't recall editing any of these |
| 16:41 |
Jigal |
isolysis: and you're the only one with enough rights to change files? |
| 16:41 |
isolysis |
Jigal: the thing is i had a developer create some extensions for us a while ago.. so i am not sure what to do, otherwise i would have just updated/overwritten the extension |
| 16:42 |
isolysis |
adodb seems to be related to some kind of php functions thgough |
| 16:43 |
Jigal |
isolysis: you can always download "your" version first, update it and if things go wrong upload the saved version again.. |
| 16:43 |
isolysis |
Jigal: that sounds like a good idea, thanks |
| 16:44 |
Jigal |
isolysis: adodb is a PHP library with loads of extra functionality. It is needed for dbal extension for example. Maybe the developer modified file temporarily to debug something? |
| 16:44 |
isolysis |
i am currently running typo3 4.1.5 - i am hesitant to upgrade to 4.2.1 for fear of breaking everything, can anyone offer some advise ..? |
| 16:44 |
isolysis |
Jigal: that is possible yes, i might email them to double check |
| 16:45 |
posix^ |
isolysis: I'm in a similar situation. I've inherited a 4.1.2 production environment, and I want to bump it up to 4.1.7, if not 4.2.1. |
| 16:46 |
Jigal |
updating can break a lot of things. Custom extensions, extensions which do not have 4.1.x compatible version... |
| 16:46 |
posix^ |
AFAIK, the author's advice is to run a development environment and test the upgrade on that. The situation I've inherited is running ONLY production, so I have to figure out how to build a dev environment first. |
| 16:48 |
isolysis |
posix^: in my experience in upgrading 4.1.x to 4.1.x is relatively minor and trouble free, but 4.1.x to 4.2.x is a major update so for that it is probably recommended to clone the setup on a test environment |
| 16:50 |
posix^ |
that's what I figure, but I have a lot of worrisome stakeholders so I really want to make sure things are solid |
| 16:50 |
posix^ |
my main issue is with the cloning part of it |
| 16:50 |
isolysis |
posix^: i think the best way to do this is going to be: setup a new ip address somewhere and create a document root directory, then import/copy all your existing root folder contents into there, and import the sql database/dump and get a clone of your existing setup running basically, after that do the upgrade procedure i guess |
| 16:50 |
posix^ |
right, there are some details within that where I've experienced big problems though |
| 16:50 |
isolysis |
its hassle, but better safe than sorry i suppose |
| 16:51 |
isolysis |
what kind of problems |
| 16:51 |
posix^ |
recursively copying the directory was without a hitch, and the only alteration I made was to localconf.php, pointing to the new dev database |
| 16:52 |
posix^ |
copying the database was a pain, but I figured out to basically ignore tables such as cache_* and index_*, although I'd prefer a more precise exclusion list from the author |
| 16:53 |
posix^ |
I enabled sqlDebug on the new dev environment, and I'm getting a couple errors here and there.. the install tool db compare shows that it wants to make changes.. |
| 16:53 |
posix^ |
basically, it looks like typo3 is trying to pull off some kind of db versioning, but it sucks at doing so |
| 16:54 |
isolysis |
i see |
| 16:54 |
posix^ |
I mean, really, this should be a one-click thing |
| 16:55 |
posix^ |
to package up your deployment and then redeploy elsewhere |
| 16:55 |
posix^ |
I'm a little fuzzy on how to install tool's db compare works |
| 16:56 |
posix^ |
there is "Update required tables [COMPARE]".. and then there is "typo3conf/database.sql (1.5M) [COMPARE]" |
| 16:57 |
posix^ |
and 'Compare with $TCA' |
| 16:57 |
isolysis |
i know what you mean, i had a bad experience once with non utf8 characters that screwed up our database and trying to restore and salvage content was a pain in the ass |
| 16:57 |
posix^ |
All I want is a mirror of what I copied, which supposedly, should be a mirror! |
| 16:58 |
Provito |
isolysis, probably because you were using mysqldump which defaults in utf-8 charset and re-importing using mysql without specifiying --default-character-set=utf8 |
| 16:58 |
Provito |
unless your my.cnf has the default charset as utf8 that is which isn't usually the case in default installs |
| 17:00 |
isolysis |
Provito: i think it was actually due to the yaml for typo3 extension i was using |
| 17:00 |
isolysis |
it worked while it was on the server, but when it came to moving to better hardware, the transfer didn't go so nicely |
| 17:00 |
isolysis |
it would be nice to have a 'one click backs up everything' function somewhere |
| 17:05 |
m4rtijn |
isolysis there is an extension for that.. |
| 17:06 |
isolysis |
when upgrading from 4.1.5 to 4.2.1 - is it recommended to upgrade to 4.1.7 first, or just upgrade directly to 4.2.1? |
| 17:06 |
posix^ |
anyhow, there's gotta be someone who has had to do the same.. |
| 17:06 |
m4rtijn |
isolysis - you can do it directly |
| 17:06 |
isolysis |
m4rtijn: please tell me some info |
| 17:06 |
m4rtijn |
isolysis - w4x_backup |
| 17:07 |
m4rtijn |
never used it though.. its not rly a problem to export the DB and copy some files.. |
| 17:09 |
isolysis |
m4rtijn: thanks, installing the ext now |
| 17:09 |
posix^ |
what's the best place to look at changelogs? |
| 17:10 |
posix^ |
lol |
| 17:11 |
isolysis |
posix^: i think there it the typo3 wiki somewhere |
| 17:11 |
maholtz680 |
@posix^: which changelogs? depends on core, extension, documentation? |
| 17:12 |
posix^ |
core I imagine |
| 17:12 |
posix^ |
to give some insight as to what is going to happen if I try and go 4.1.2 -> 4.2.1 |
| 17:12 |
posix^ |
or what I should be looking at |
| 17:13 |
posix^ |
if you guys say it's safe though, I'm inclined to just do it |
| 17:13 |
maholtz680 |
wiki.typo3.org -> releaes & groups |
| 17:14 |
Provito |
posix^, never do any upgrade without having at least a dev environment to confirm that the upgrade is smoothly |
| 17:14 |
Provito |
never upgrade or do anything to production without testing first |
| 17:14 |
posix^ |
Provito: I'm utterly aware of this |
| 17:14 |
posix^ |
it just seems Typo3 isn't :) |
| 17:14 |
Provito |
eh? |
| 17:15 |
posix^ |
it doesn't seem to provision different environments |
| 17:15 |
Provito |
of course it can handle it |
| 17:15 |
posix^ |
(I could be missing something huge though) |
| 17:15 |
posix^ |
right, but it doesn't really encourage it |
| 17:15 |
Provito |
I have dev, staging and production environments setup with typo3 for multiple clients |
| 17:16 |
posix^ |
so you end up with people like me, inheriting prod-only environments and wondering "wtf is going on" |
| 17:16 |
Provito |
using typo3 import and export functions to transfer around template content, all typoscript contained within svn, the same for templates and all configuration |
| 17:16 |
Provito |
posix^, you inherit a production you take the whole lot and setup on a dev environment and work it out |
| 17:16 |
posix^ |
yea |
| 17:16 |
Provito |
typo3 is powerful, don't blame the system for your misunderstanding |
| 17:16 |
m4rtijn |
posix^ - I never encoutered any problems by upgrading from 4.1 to 4.2 |
| 17:17 |
m4rtijn |
posix^ - still I would suggest u make a backup of the DB and all files |
| 17:17 |
Provito |
m4rtijn, not just recommend it should always be done |
| 17:17 |
posix^ |
Provito: it's not mine, it's a junior level service I've come to handle because the previous people couldn't |
| 17:17 |
m4rtijn |
Provito - still its a recommendation :) |
| 17:17 |
posix^ |
I know it's not Typo3's job to make people smart |
| 17:18 |
m4rtijn |
posix^ - also you shoudl upgrade all extensions to the newest versions |
| 17:18 |
posix^ |
but it would be nice if it encouraged it |
| 17:19 |
posix^ |
Provito: I'm curious about versioning |
| 17:19 |
posix^ |
what I am using, of course has none |
| 17:19 |
posix^ |
I'd love to throw it into a git repo |
| 17:19 |
Provito |
posix^, whats your versioning question |
| 17:20 |
Provito |
every content when edited there is a history function |
| 17:20 |
posix^ |
the content editing seems to take place with typo3's panel |
| 17:20 |
Provito |
typoscript and the templates should be managed by your own repository system |
| 17:20 |
posix^ |
so are there hooks in there for svn? git? |
| 17:21 |
Provito |
posix^, versioning of content is managed within the database |
| 17:21 |
posix^ |
ah |
| 17:21 |
Provito |
typoscript and templates can be managed within the database but it is much better to reference an external file and manage separately |
| 17:21 |
posix^ |
ah hah |
| 17:21 |
posix^ |
I suspect we're doing it within the db |
| 17:21 |
posix^ |
because I see queries fly by with heaps of view code |
| 17:22 |
Provito |
posix^, trust me the more you look into typo3 the more you will love it, there's a lot too it and it's very cool |
| 17:22 |
Provito |
don't be put off by the hard work learning the api |
| 17:23 |
posix^ |
my stake in it is more of providing the service rather than doing the content and templates (for now) |
| 17:23 |
Provito |
posix^, also why the rush and need to upgrade now? |
| 17:23 |
Provito |
unless there is a security issue what's the benefit in risking the upgrade when your not as experienced at this stage |
| 17:24 |
chefan |
Provito: and the more you look into the source code, the more you hate it :D but it's by far the most powerful php based solution available, and a good dose of suspicion with the engine helps in better development ;) |
| 17:24 |
chefan |
if 4.1.x does the trick for you, don't switch yet |
| 17:24 |
Provito |
chefan, exactly |
| 17:24 |
posix^ |
Provito: well, I've created the dev environment, may as well use it.. and it sounds like it *should* be painless |
| 17:25 |
posix^ |
don't I want the most recent security fixes tho? |
| 17:25 |
chefan |
"never touch a running system" got a lot of men back safely from the moon and helped developers avoid heart attacks since conrad zuse ;) |
| 17:25 |
Provito |
well what security problem is with your release? |
| 17:25 |
posix^ |
I imagine everything that was discovered from 4.1.3 onwards |
| 17:25 |
Provito |
which is? |
| 17:26 |
Provito |
typo3 is a very secure application, although the extensions are the authors own liability |
| 17:26 |
maholtz680 |
@posix^: update from 4.1.3 to 4.1.9 should be no problem |
| 17:26 |
chefan |
always read release notes before upgrading. 4.1.x will have security fixes too |
| 17:26 |
posix^ |
I've run OWASP against it, and I've seen some weird stuff |
| 17:26 |
posix^ |
and it was by no means a rigorous test |
| 17:26 |
chefan |
major new releases do not only contain fixes, but usually new bugs too |
| 17:26 |
Provito |
exactly |
| 17:26 |
chefan |
that's the way the cookie crumbles ;) |
| 17:27 |
m4rtijn |
.. cu tomorow all |
| 17:27 |
chefan |
there are people still using apache 1.3 for a reason |
| 17:27 |
Provito |
HEAD typo3.org | grep Apache |
| 17:27 |
Provito |
Server: Apache/1.3.37 (Unix) |
| 17:27 |
posix^ |
I'd rather get hit by a 0-day though |
| 17:28 |
posix^ |
at least there'll be chatter about it |
| 17:28 |
chefan |
security fixes are typically not version dependant. they are usually applied to all supported versions |
| 17:28 |
chefan |
and i think the 4.1.x lifecycle will still be some time around |
| 17:29 |
posix^ |
actually |
| 17:29 |
posix^ |
are there any good providers for hosted typo3? |
| 17:30 |
chefan |
i am talking personal experience here, and i suppose Provito too. i wasted a lot of time in my life fighting bleeding edge technology ;) |
| 17:30 |
Provito |
chefan, I'm a debian user so that says something |
| 17:30 |
chefan |
about every provider with stable database access and a not too restrictive php config |
| 17:31 |
posix^ |
chefan: yea, but early adoption has other benefits |
| 17:31 |
Provito |
posix^, that's for the dev environment not production |
| 17:31 |
Provito |
unless you are 100% sure it is rock solid |
| 17:31 |
chefan |
as i said, depends. usually for production systems, stay to what's known |
| 17:32 |
chefan |
it is very brave to test out bugs for the community, but it doesn't help keeping your clients happy ;) |
| 17:32 |
posix^ |
I don't think it's mutually exclusive |
| 17:33 |
posix^ |
and keeping clients happy is often *dependent* on early adoption |
| 17:33 |
posix^ |
perhaps less the case with typo3 |
| 17:34 |
chefan |
early adaption of new technology that is VISIBLE |
| 17:34 |
chefan |
i haven't seen any major breakthroughs in this context with 4.2 |
| 17:35 |
posix^ |
ah hah |
| 17:35 |
chefan |
apart from common database problems when people migrate :D |
| 17:35 |
chefan |
google spat up somewhat in the 100k |
| 17:35 |
chefan |
but i haven't checked if that's a luser issue |
| 17:40 |
posix^ |
hahah |
| 17:40 |
posix^ |
http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TYPO3_4.1.2 "Improved code quality" |
| 17:40 |
posix^ |
I should hope so |
| 17:40 |
chefan |
would be about time |
| 17:41 |
chefan |
i grep'ed a lot in that code |
| 17:41 |
chefan |
didn't like everything, especially when it didn't match the documentation |
| 17:41 |
posix^ |
I'd like to see the release that "Worsened code quality" |
| 17:41 |
chefan |
that never happens |
| 17:42 |
chefan |
that use case is called "bettered to death" or "fixed to oblivion" |
| 17:42 |
chefan |
happens at times |
| 17:49 |
chefan |
just for the fun of it, what feature of 4.2 gives you the edge over typo3 4.1 with your clients right now? |
| 17:50 |
maholtz680 |
backend improvements |
| 17:51 |
snoy_ms |
i need a Digital Asset Management (DAM) solution for ~ 50 GB pictures / What do you think, Typo3 with Media (DAM) Extension ? |
| 17:51 |
posix^ |
http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TYPO3_4.2 How about being able to show the right day and time? lol |
| 17:51 |
posix^ |
"Fixed bug #7897: Storage and display of datetime/time fields was broken (one hour shift) on DST (daylight saving time) changes |
| 17:51 |
chefan |
ok, that's almost philosophical. most clients i know shun the backend and always ask for frontend editing options |
| 17:51 |
chefan |
and with the date/time you have a point there ;) |
| 17:52 |
maholtz680 |
@snoy_ms: sum of pictures are 50GB? |
| 17:52 |
chefan |
that wasn't fixed in 4.1.x? |
| 17:52 |
maholtz680 |
do you need it for many people? |
| 17:52 |
snoy_ms |
maholtz680: 40~ 50 GB, its for an media agency |
| 17:53 |
snoy_ms |
could be 20 ~ 30, but i want to be on the safe side |
| 17:53 |
posix^ |
"Fixed bug #8028: Databases with an "-" in it can't be used (Thanks to Steffen Kamper) |
| 17:54 |
maholtz680 |
@snoy_ms: if you need an webbased system, i think DAM is good for it (but needs some work for optimizing it;) |
| 17:55 |
maholtz680 |
how many files is the more important question, because then you see, how many records you will get |
| 17:55 |
snoy_ms |
maholtz680: puhh, thats true |
| 17:56 |
maholtz680 |
and if you need an nice interface etc. |
| 17:56 |
snoy_ms |
maholtz680: 50GB -> every file 1-2 MB...huuuu |
| 17:56 |
maholtz680 |
that is a lot of work, if they are not able to use the backend |
| 17:56 |
maholtz680 |
50000 files should be ok, but they have to organize them |
| 17:57 |
maholtz680 |
fill in the keywords etc |
| 17:58 |
snoy_ms |
maholtz680: i know, but they have fill in the keywords... with every software. |
| 17:58 |
snoy_ms |
maholtz680: I think i run a small lokal test in this agency... |
| 17:59 |
maholtz680 |
yep |
| 17:59 |
maholtz680 |
i would be interested in the results:) |
| 17:59 |
snoy_ms |
me too, i hope i can test it... |
| 18:00 |
maholtz680 |
have an look at "exiftool" for that |
| 18:31 |
conic |
hey guys.... |
| 18:31 |
conic |
did someone already have the chase that he wanted to make pages invisible when they are empty? |
| 18:32 |
maholtz680 |
why dont you add pages invisble by default? |
| 18:32 |
conic |
i want to make the pages invisible when there's no content for the current FE-user |
| 18:32 |
conic |
because.... |
| 18:33 |
conic |
for some frontend usergroups there is content inside, for some not |
| 18:34 |
conic |
and the pages should be automatically visible if there's content for the usergroup, and invisible for those who don't have access to the content |
| 18:34 |
maholtz680 |
insible means in menu? |
| 18:35 |
conic |
that would be already enough |
| 18:35 |
nomatter001 |
hi |
| 18:35 |
nomatter001 |
is there anywhere a documentation for the whole TSFE array available |
| 18:35 |
nomatter001 |
cause i can't find any with google |
| 18:37 |
maholtz680 |
@conic: you could do it via typoscript numRows, not easy but should be possible in menu rendering |
| 18:37 |
conic |
numRows is an extension or do you mean via TS? |
| 18:37 |
maholtz680 |
TS :p |
| 18:37 |
conic |
;) |
| 18:39 |
conic |
will i have to write that into template->setup? |
| 18:39 |
conic |
or in the TS of each page? |
| 18:41 |
maholtz680 |
in your typoscript menu |
| 18:42 |
conic |
^^ |
| 18:42 |
conic |
ok, some hint where to read somethig about that? |
| 18:42 |
conic |
i only userd TS to include things before.... |
| 18:43 |
conic |
in the main template of my page... |
| 18:43 |
conic |
never wrote something else in TS until now, think i will have to learn it |
| 18:44 |
maholtz680 |
TSref -> HMENU, TMENU,TMENUITEM,stdWrap,numRows,select |
| 18:44 |
chefan |
either that or you get an intern for that if you work with typo3 |
| 18:45 |
maholtz680 |
if you are an php programmer, it is possible to write an userFunc for that |
| 18:45 |
maholtz680 |
(not nicer, but easier) |
| 18:45 |
conic |
hm, some php is available in my brain ,) |
| 18:45 |
conic |
how would you work that? |
| 18:46 |
maholtz680 |
if you want to learn typoscript use it, if not use userFunc |
| 18:47 |
conic |
ups, closed window unintensionally |
| 18:48 |
maholtz680 |
if you want to learn typoscript use it, if not use userFunc |
| 18:48 |
maholtz680 |
IMHO! |
| 18:48 |
conic |
i think i wil have to learn ts |
| 18:48 |
chefan |
if you want to control your typo3 and you don't work in a company with strictly separated tasks (front end, backend, extension devel and stuff) it is strongly advisable to learn TS to my mind |
| 18:49 |
conic |
but where to start? ^^ |
| 18:49 |
chefan |
the tutorials |
| 18:49 |
maholtz680 |
have to go - bye |
| 18:50 |
chefan |
cu |
| 18:50 |
conic |
cu |
| 18:50 |
maholtz680 |
perhaps: wiki.typo3.org/De:TSref/45MinutesTypoScript (if you are german) |
| 18:50 |
maholtz680 |
bye |
| 18:51 |
conic |
sounds nice |
| 18:51 |
conic |
thanks |
| 18:51 |
conic |
sounds very nice, indeed |
| 18:51 |
conic |
ok, I'll be back in 45 minutes ;P |
| 18:53 |
nomatter101 |
does any one know the ypslideoutmenu? |
| 19:38 |
conic |
i just read about .wrap and .wrap2... |
| 19:38 |
conic |
can i write even more wraps? |
| 19:39 |
conic |
e.g. .wrap, then .wrap2, then .wrap3 and so on? |
| 19:40 |
conic |
or only .wrap and .wrap2 ? |
| 19:43 |
isolysis |
what is the recommended php memory limit for typo3? what about the max_execution_time setting? |
| 20:27 |
isolysis |
what is the recommended php memory limit for typo3? what about the max_execution_time setting? anyone? |
| 20:30 |
dinsdale07 |
isolysis: memorylimit or execution time? |
| 20:31 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: both really.. i currently have 128mb php memory limit |
| 20:31 |
isolysis |
and 30 sec max execute time |
| 20:32 |
isolysis |
our server has about 4gb ram, although most of that is used by another application... i don't want typo3 to suffer from lack of memory, so i need to know what the optimal setting is |
| 20:32 |
dinsdale07 |
one moment - just doublechecking on my server |
| 20:33 |
isolysis |
i also noticed that sometimes when trying to load a newly created typo3 page.. it says loading loading and then blank.. nothing, just a white page. in internet explorer it shows the default error message and a http 500 internal server error status code |
| 20:33 |
isolysis |
so it makes me wonder if the http request is timing out due to the 30 second setting and just giving the server error/blank page |
| 20:35 |
dinsdale07 |
ok, I have memory_limit 64MB. I think if you don't have enough you will get an errormessage |
| 20:36 |
dinsdale07 |
I upgraded my 256MB Virtualserver to 512 and configured apache for less listening servers and the performance is acceptable |
| 20:36 |
dinsdale07 |
with 256MB I had problems that e.G. .css files were only partially loaded or timed out. |
| 20:37 |
dinsdale07 |
max_execution_time is 60, I think it's the default. I don't have high traffic sites though ! |
| 20:39 |
dinsdale07 |
64MB seems to be enought for big plugins like the calbase, |
| 20:41 |
dinsdale07 |
but check with free -m if it is swapping. if apache is swapping you run quickly into performance problems. |
| 20:50 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: its actually a windows server environment with iis6. anyway, so you have 60 secs? this is something i should probably change then.. |
| 20:51 |
isolysis |
thanks for checking |
| 20:53 |
dinsdale07 |
windows is probably different but swapping is never good :-), I wouldn't worry too much about the execution time though unless you are running big scripts. From my experience the only time I had a problem is when I download the extension list in the extension manager. |
| 20:58 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: i wouldn't have cared for the execution time either, but i noticed that when we create a new page, upon the first hit it takes a long time to load, and then at the end just nothing - a blank white screen. IE revealed that a http 500 status error code was being sent by the server, so i am guessing that this is due to the typo3 generating the page and taking longer than 30 secs... |
| 20:59 |
isolysis |
...and thus causing the loading failure/error |
| 20:59 |
isolysis |
i asked lots of people if they experienced similar type of bug in typo3 but no one experienced it, so it seems likely to be a configu issue on our setup |
| 21:00 |
isolysis |
does anyone know how i can get a copy of an old extension version? i made the mistake of installing dropdown_sitemap 3.0.1 which is for typo3 4.2 version only, now i need to revert back to an old version of the extension but cant find it |
| 21:01 |
dinsdale07 |
in extension manager you can select the version from the TER |
| 21:02 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: thanks, i think i found another way to do it.. in typo3 site there is the version number in the url, i can manipulate that i think |
| 21:03 |
dinsdale07 |
that as well, but extension manager acutally gives you a nice list where you can select the Version. You have to delete the extension first though as far as I remember |
| 21:05 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: yeah you're right, it saves having to download the t3x file manually |
| 21:05 |
dinsdale07 |
And regarding your HTTP 500 error have you tried firefox with the plugins firebug (profiling) and http live headers.That helped me a lot troubleshooting when I had my partial page loading problem. |
| 21:09 |
dinsdale07 |
Although it does sound like a server/webserver problem ... |
| 21:10 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: i have firebug, but not really thought about http live headers |
| 21:11 |
isolysis |
what happened with your partial page loading issue? |
| 21:12 |
dinsdale07 |
I upgraded the server RAM lowered the apache listening threads and the problem went away. |
| 21:13 |
dinsdale07 |
if you read german here is the thread on typo3.net |
| 21:14 |
dinsdale07 |
http://www.typo3.net/forum/list/list_post//78066/?page=1#pid292084 |
| 21:16 |
isolysis |
i see, typo3 is quite heavy (relatively) compared to all that joomla crap that can be run on shared hosts, ideally for typo3 you need vps or dedicated box |
| 21:16 |
dinsdale07 |
what does it look in firebug though - does it load anything at all if you call an url. As well, are you using URL rewriting? |
| 21:16 |
isolysis |
i have rewriting by the cooluri extensions |
| 21:17 |
isolysis |
the page address seems to load, firebug shows it as our site etc, but theview source is completely blank for html outupt |
| 21:17 |
dinsdale07 |
Yep, that has been my experience. Quite demanding - minimum 512 RAM. |
| 21:17 |
isolysis |
the real problem though is that i can't reproduce the bug consistently.. it happens very infrequently |
| 21:18 |
isolysis |
what version of typo3 are you running?? |
| 21:18 |
dinsdale07 |
what happens on the net tab. Has the html document a 0byte value or does it time out? |
| 21:19 |
isolysis |
i can't remember, i think it was a 0byte value most likely |
| 21:20 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: how do i delete an extension fully? |
| 21:21 |
dinsdale07 |
There is an option Backup/delete when you go "into" and extension in extension manager |
| 21:23 |
dinsdale07 |
it's at the top in the dropdown list |
| 21:24 |
isolysis |
thanks i found it |
| 21:24 |
dinsdale07 |
Is your typo3 website accesible from the internet or an intranet site? |
| 21:24 |
isolysis |
im trying to burn a dvd at the same time, causing my machine to lag a bit |
| 21:24 |
isolysis |
from internet |
| 21:29 |
dinsdale07 |
If it is an option for you can mayby try to outsource typo3 to a virtual machine running Linux. from the typo3 wiki at least this seems to be preferred. |
| 21:29 |
dinsdale07 |
http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Typo3_Installation_Basics#System_requirements |
| 21:33 |
dinsdale07 |
Actually I'm not correct here - Apache is preferred, not nescessarily Linux. |
| 21:51 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: generally speaking, typo3 seems to work fine for windows environment, i dont think it is that.. in any case, i have upped the memory limit from 128m to 512m and 30 sec to 60 sec execution time, this should fix it hopefully, if not then its probably somehting moreserious |
| 21:55 |
dinsdale07 |
usually php would through an error message if it does not have enough memory, so I think your 128 MB were plenty.My bet is cooluri, caching or IIS to throw the 500 error. |
| 21:55 |
dinsdale07 |
btw you don't get the "Please wait while the page is being generated" error? |
| 21:56 |
isolysis |
sometimes i get that page is being generated message.. |
| 21:56 |
isolysis |
i know in 4.2 version this message doesn't appear anymore |
| 21:56 |
dinsdale07 |
This I think i know. Check the release notes for Typo3 4.2. I think they fixed it there. It happened when a page was accessed at the same time. |
| 21:57 |
isolysis |
i was hoping they would have brought this into 4.1.x |
| 21:57 |
dinsdale07 |
ok :-) |
| 21:57 |
isolysis |
yeah, it can also happen if the user clicks a link twice in succession, i.e. a quick doubleclick |
| 21:58 |
dinsdale07 |
Why u still on 4.1.x. I think 4.2.1 is really great. |
| 21:58 |
isolysis |
dont want to break anything on this setup |
| 21:59 |
isolysis |
what was the upgrade procedure lke for you, if you updated from 4.1.x? |
| 21:59 |
isolysis |
did you have to do that upgrade compatibility tool test or something? |
| 22:01 |
dinsdale07 |
ehm - Actually I just switched the symlink and it worked on the 4 sites I tried it on.I found out about the compatibility tool only later and set the compatibility Version. |
| 22:01 |
dinsdale07 |
But I'm always doing this on my testsystem first to see if it works and then on the production server. |
| 22:03 |
isolysis |
i see |
| 22:03 |
isolysis |
we have a production server but no real dev environment, but since we are not getting much traffic do you think it is safe to just switch the symlinks and try it all out? |
| 22:03 |
dinsdale07 |
I think with 4.2.0 I had a problem so I switched back. But 4.2.1 has been very stable for me. |
| 22:04 |
isolysis |
my main concern is that we screw something up in the database and cant revert the changes easily |
| 22:04 |
isolysis |
didn't you have to change something in the install tool, i.e udpate database tables? |
| 22:05 |
dinsdale07 |
from 4.1.5 to 4.2.1 I just switched and it worked. I set the compatibility version later. |
| 22:06 |
dinsdale07 |
But I did not notice any changes. it will tell you to acknoledge some stuff that changed though, |
| 22:07 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: thanks, i am unzipping 4.2.1 right now |
| 22:07 |
dinsdale07 |
As I said 4.2.0 I had a problem. I was not able to add content via Templavoila so I just switched back again. |
| 22:08 |
dinsdale07 |
and waited for 4.2.1 |
| 22:09 |
dinsdale07 |
I don't think if you simply load the backend in a different version that it will change anything in the database l but I would recommend to make a backup just in case since it is a production system. |
| 22:10 |
dinsdale07 |
just dump the sql database to a file and make a copy of your installation so you are on the safe side. |
| 22:12 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: yeah i already made a backup of 4.1.5 before i upgraded to 4.1.7 - that seemed to be ok, then i screwed by installing dropdown_sitemap latest version which required 4.2.1 |
| 22:12 |
isolysis |
however, i just switched the symlinks and things seem to work on front end |
| 22:12 |
isolysis |
sweet |
| 22:12 |
isolysis |
i tried to get the system to throw the 'page is being generated' message but its not happening now.. cool |
| 22:13 |
dinsdale07 |
yep - that bug was really anoying. especially on typo3.org |
| 22:14 |
isolysis |
yeah i hated that, makes the site look very unprofessional |
| 22:14 |
isolysis |
thanks, you gave me the reassurance to do this.. all day i have been viewing the comments and i was hesitant as it was to do the upgrade, but this is not so bad it seems |
| 22:15 |
dinsdale07 |
I love the new backendtree in 4.2. It just loads instantly |
| 22:15 |
dinsdale07 |
no problem - but get a testsystem. It definately gives you the ease when you can play around with something without screwing it up |
| 22:16 |
isolysis |
i just looked at the be now, its pretty slick, nice improvement on previous interface |
| 22:18 |
dinsdale07 |
yes. Although I still think that's something Typo3 can improve on a lot. I'm really excited for Version 5. |
| 22:18 |
dinsdale07 |
I actually like the backend from a programmers point of view - very powerful. |
| 22:18 |
dinsdale07 |
But many of my clients just find it confusing. |
| 22:28 |
isolysis |
ok phew, im back.. for a second i lost my pagetree in BE, but thats cuz the compatibility version wasn't set. but most of it seems to be fine now. lol |
| 22:29 |
dinsdale07 |
hehe - shock. If you need to set it back I think it is just a line in localconf.php. |
| 22:32 |
isolysis |
i dont know if i already mentioned, but i once had a bad experience with non utf8 characters screwing up the database, it mean that when i migrated servers, the tree was there, but any page that had content was not showing in page view, only list view- - something screwed up the templavoila and i couldn't restore it properly, thus had to restart the page structure and copy paste all the... |
| 22:32 |
isolysis |
...content into new content elements on a fresh install - so since then every little change has me all jittery |
| 22:35 |
dinsdale07 |
I remember I had a problem with utf-8 characters as well. I ended up changing all my content elements manually to accomodate for the french accents. |
| 22:35 |
Phlogi |
can I use parts of code that is licensed under apache license in a typo3 extension? |
| 22:36 |
Phlogi |
and release that extension? |
| 22:36 |
dinsdale07 |
keeps you vary :-) |
| 22:39 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: are you a typo3 developer, user or what capacity do you have with t3? |
| 22:41 |
dinsdale07 |
I'm more a sysadmin and develop mainly typo3 sites. I was actually just checking out the irc chat since I found an irc client on my emacs. |
| 22:43 |
dinsdale07 |
But I run a hosting server for our clients so I'm playing around a lot with installations and hosting. |
| 22:46 |
isolysis |
cool - nice to bump into you today then :p |
| 22:47 |
dinsdale07 |
what do you use typo3 for yourself? |
| 22:51 |
dinsdale07 |
Phlogi: did you read this? http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-dev/2005-November/013844.html |
| 23:09 |
Phlogi |
dinsdale07: thanks a lot, that exactly answers my question :) |
| 23:09 |
Phlogi |
its even the same license :) |
| 23:17 |
isolysis |
dinsdale07: our main site is powered by an asp.net application, hence the windows environment - but thats more for searching and displaying lots of product data, typo3 comes into the picture for managing our content pages like articles, and navigation. |
| 23:53 |
conic |
how can i write an if-command in TS that looks for the page being empty or not? |
| 23:53 |
conic |
i mean whether there's visible content or not? |
| 23:54 |
Phlogi |
conic: ono what object? |
| 23:55 |
Phlogi |
If the content is "true".... (not empty string and not zero) |
| 23:55 |
Phlogi |
look in tsref |
| 23:59 |
conic |
i mean a page in the menu |
| 23:59 |
conic |
i want to automatically hide it in the menu if it's empty |
