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00:07 Mirrakor nd___: when was 4.2 released?
00:21 Denyerec Ok
00:21 Denyerec whoever locked the height of the T3 backend needs stabbing in the eyes
00:21 Denyerec Wait
00:21 Denyerec maybe I should check in firefox before I pay a hitman.
00:22 Denyerec it's just OPera
00:22 Denyerec Maybe not an eye stabbing then
00:23 Denyerec maybe just a stoning.
00:23 Denyerec With rocks, not hashish.
00:24 Tsoots err
00:24 Tsoots just stabb oper devs
00:24 Tsoots you seem to want stabbing
00:37 Denyerec I'll probably get stabbed
00:37 Denyerec I live in the UK
00:37 Denyerec :)
08:24 foool anyone had a high CPU prob with imagemagick? - need help
11:35 Mirrakor would you recommend me to use the current Stable version to start with Typo3 or should I wait till 5.x is released?
11:55 daKmoR 5.x is still quite away...
11:56 daKmoR so if you need someting within a year... yeah use the current stable version...
12:02 Mirrakor ok, you recommend me to download the package with the dummy site or just the original package? [know a good introduction? :) ]
12:58 tofirius hi everyone
13:00 tofirius is anyone here?
13:16 daKmoR no, this is an idle room - #typo3 is quite a strang name for an idle room but hey life is a mystery... :p
13:25 tofirius daKmoR: i'm confused as to why it's a strange name
13:32 daKmoR yeah... maybe we could do some active idling!!! who is the most active idler?
13:32 tofirius based on the # of posts, i'd say at the moment you are
13:32 tofirius :)
13:32 tofirius well.... the # of idling posts, that is
13:33 tofirius ;)
13:36 Mirrakor do nonsens posts count as idling?
13:36 tofirius Mirrakor: well i'm not the channel moderator, so i suppose i have no say in the matter
13:37 Mirrakor hm..
13:37 Denyerec void should be a channel op.
13:37 Denyerec He's always here, and he knows his stuff.
13:37 Denyerec And he's sane.
13:37 tofirius :D
13:37 Denyerec (From what I can tell...)
13:37 Mirrakor void is sane?
13:37 Mirrakor are you sure? :D
13:37 Denyerec AFAIK yes
13:38 tofirius daKmoR: well, it seems somehow we've created a bit of traffic with our nonsense
13:38 tofirius :)
13:38 Mirrakor ha! now that I've everyones attention: Would you recommend me to download the package with the dummy site or just the original package? [know a good introduction? :) ]
13:39 tofirius Mirrakor: i suppose it depends on if you want the extra couple of steps or not
13:39 void hm.. highlighted me? -)
13:39 Mirrakor tofirius: I got an existing page which I'd like to convert to typo3
13:39 Mirrakor void: we just wondered - are you sane? :D
13:39 tofirius but i don't actually know the emprical differences
13:40 tofirius *empirical
13:40 void Mirrakor: i'm insane, no doubt.
13:40 Mirrakor Denyerec: should we still push him to be chan op?
13:40 tofirius void: only a sane man can admit his insanity
13:40 Mirrakor wise words *gg*
13:40 void tofirius: wrong ;)
13:40 tofirius void: i've been as such before
13:43 tofirius could someone check this out for me? http://phpfi.com/335951
13:43 tofirius my end goal is to add content to my content area, not replace it
13:43 tofirius how could i do this?
13:45 JohPie if I want use the db-analyser after update, I get a error-message about Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded
13:46 tofirius JohPie: your server has it's script execution time set to 30 seconds... which is the minimum for Typo3
13:46 JohPie if i want use the variante in the console, in typo3 4.2.1 there is ohny an refindex_cli.php
13:46 tofirius you could ask them to raise it, but if it's a shared host, then they won't do it
13:47 JohPie and if I want run these file
13:48 void tofirius: seem to be right..
13:49 tofirius void: thanks.. but it replaces other content elements that i have on the page... instead of adding to them
13:50 JohPie i get an error message:
13:50 void tofirius: are that elements in highligh box?
13:50 tofirius void: yes
13:50 JohPie ./refindex_cli.php: line 1: ?php: file not found
13:50 JohPie ./refindex_cli.php: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token `'TYPO3_cliMode''
13:50 JohPie ./refindex_cli.php: line 3: `if (!defined('TYPO3_cliMode')) die('You cannot run this script directly!');'
13:50 JohPie any idea?
13:50 tofirius JohPie: please paste code into www.phpfi.com & reference the url here, thank you
13:50 void tofirius: so, make a hightlight box a COA... and move elements to .10, and random content to .20
13:51 JohPie tofirius: soryy
13:51 tofirius void: thanks
13:52 LaXeL is there a site where all the available options for a command from typoscript is listed?
13:53 LaXeL like for example for the option pidInList?
13:56 JohPie http://phpfi.com/335964
13:56 JohPie a second time
13:58 Mirra ./refindex_cli.php: line 1: ?php: File not found << guess there's an < missing?
14:00 JohPie mmh, it is a sysext
14:00 JohPie but it can be
14:03 JohPie ah... I get an page, that can be usefull for me. I will test it and will report lager
14:03 JohPie -g+t
14:04 tofirius void: thanks again... i got it to work :)
14:05 void Mirra: you use it in wrong way
14:05 void Mirra: use cli_dispatch.phpsh in typo3 folder
14:06 Mirra JohPie
14:08 JohPie void what do you mean with typo3-folder?
14:09 tofirius JohPie: in your website root... you have a typo3 folder
14:10 void JohPie: in the folder with name "typo3"
14:13 JohPie no change in the result
14:24 JohPie i get it..
14:25 JohPie with 4.2.1 the system changed..
14:26 JohPie command line runs only with ./cli_dispatch.phpsh in the typo3-folder
14:28 JohPie thx for your help
15:41 tofirius bye
15:48 Phlogi anyone has an idea how to create a pastebin in typo3? Which extension would you use?
15:53 psychomieze Phlogi: no idea what you could use for a pastebin.... you will need something that offers page generation on user input, I don't know if there is any such thing
16:03 Phlogi psychomieze: hey hello :) Yes me neither, I'm already writing the extension ;)
16:04 Phlogi furthermore there will be typoscript syntax checking in there... so if ppl use it here they can already see if their posted ts is valid, what do you thinkg?
16:05 psychomieze Phlogi: hi ;) cool. Tell me when it's finished. The syntax checking would be really nice. Do you write your own highlighting and checking or do you use some things from geshi or the t3editor or something?
16:05 Phlogi psychomieze: Iuse an already existing php script
16:05 Phlogi psychomieze: I hope I will finish it in few hours :D
16:06 psychomieze Phlogi: there is a php script for typo3 syntax checking? never seen that but nice to know.
16:08 Phlogi psychomieze: hehe yes its not public available, not yet maybe :)
16:09 Mirra is it difficult to transport a typo3 installation from a test environment to a real environment?
16:11 psychomieze Mirra: no, usually not. you just make a dump of your database and copy your files, paste them on the real environment, use the sql dump and reconfigure typo3 with the install tool to the new environment variables.
16:11 daKmoR Mirra and do not forget the folder rights... typo3temp, typo3conf....
16:19 Mirra I already got an designed php/mysql environment page - which is coming unflexible with the time, therefore I want to convert it to Typo3 is there a script that does that automaticly?
16:21 daKmoR Mirra nice try... how could this ever be possible...?
16:22 Mirra well I don't know - guess I haven't spent enough time with the typo3 structure to know what's possible and what not
16:22 daKmoR Mirra there is no autmatic script converting any costum made php scripts to typo3
16:23 Mirra and static html?
16:24 daKmoR so to just get the content - not the functionality?
16:24 daKmoR loading all files and adding them via HTML into typo3 shouldn't be much of a hassle...
16:25 daKmoR but you wouldn't get any better results... as just downloading them all and modifying them by hand...
16:26 daKmoR so if you want to make use of the typo3 template and the different types of content you would need a fairly complex importer...
16:26 Mirra well I guess that's something I'll have to do anyway, but if typo3 could import the structure, I could go through them - one by one
16:27 daKmoR how may pages are we talking about?
16:28 Mirra a few hundrer probably, not too much
16:30 daKmoR then I think a custom importer might not be worth the effort...
16:30 Mirra I see your point yes
16:30 Mirra I've to go know but I'm sure I'll have a few questions when I'm back later :D
16:43 jochke Are there a way to enable the Left, Normal and Right positions for content in typo3.
16:44 Phlogi jochke: what do you mean? You need more columns?
16:46 daKmoR jochke use templavoila... you will love it....
16:46 jochke Phlogi: I need to enable it in the backend. Right now I only have the option to use the Left and Normal.
16:46 daKmoR :p
16:47 psychomieze just wanted to say something
16:48 daKmoR couldn't you just say.... loves the sun or something like that...
16:48 psychomieze jochke: who has disabled it in the first place? default is right, normal, left... look at the page ts config of your website root page if it is disabled there
16:48 psychomieze daKmoR: :p
16:48 daKmoR man I love you...
16:49 jochke psychomieze: I did it. But it was loooong tima ago. :)
16:50 psychomieze jochke: *g* it has to be either in page ts config or in user ts config... just delete the corresponding config there and you'll get back to default
16:50 psychomieze daKmoR: I have to hate the sun, I am red haired.
16:50 Phlogi jochke: search on google for it, its in user ts config
16:51 psychomieze ok.. just to love something:
16:51 daKmoR yeah...
16:51 daKmoR that's the way :)
16:51 psychomieze :)
16:51 daKmoR let the love out... commit to it... :)
16:51 Phlogi whats the best way to create a form in html? Template + markers? TS object?
16:51 jochke psychomieze: Nice I found it! Why is it so hard to find anything in typo3. :)
16:52 Phlogi in an extension
16:52 Phlogi jochke: because typo3 is a big monster
16:52 psychomieze jochke: it only takes some years to get used to it... then it's easy ;)
16:53 daKmoR psychomieze "Nobody really cares if you’re miserable, so you might as well be happy." by (don't remember...)
16:54 psychomieze daKmoR: that reminds me of: "you come from nothing. you go back to nothing. what have you lost? nothing!" ;) that's from monty python I think.
16:55 daKmoR :)
18:54 pmk65 is anyone using TYPO3 v4.2 withou TemplaVoila? (And want to check out something for me..)
18:55 pmk65 withou = without :)
19:00 psychomieze pmk65: yes me
19:01 pmk65 psychomieze: Can you try installing the plugin I have attached to this bugreport: http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=9058
19:02 pmk65 and then try viewing a page with multiple text CEs, and see if the problem also appears on your setup?
19:03 pmk65 All my sites are made using TV, so I don't have any sites to try it on.
19:04 pmk65 what it does, is add an extra text in front of each CE, something like : "This line is added by stdWrapProcess"
19:05 pmk65 each of these lines is only supposed to appear once for each CE, but in my test setups, it appears correctly for the 1st element, but for the 2nd it appears twice, for the 3rd it appears 3 times etc.
19:05 pmk65 If the same happens for you, then it's a core problem, if not it's a TV problem.
19:06 psychomieze ok, will take a second
19:11 psychomieze pmk65: ok, tested... and you are right, it seems not to be a tv problem... happens without tv too: first element one line, second two line, third three lines
19:18 pmk65 ok. thanks for testing it out.. Seems like only the userFunc line gets displayed correctly. (only once for each element)
19:20 psychomieze exactly
19:25 pmk65 Im making a small ext that takes the 1st char of a text CE, and converts it into a graphic Drop Cap. And when I tried it on a page with more than 1 text CE, I got 2 Drop Caps on the 2nd element etc.. That's how I discovered it. Butif I use userFunc, it works correctly. Its just nicer to have a "true" stdWrap command to work with.. :)
19:26 psychomieze pmk65: i guess it's something like that fancy lettering you have in books at the beginning of chapters. Nice :) ... you filed a bug report so you at least have a hope that it will be fixed ... you could of course fix it yourself ;) and use stdWrap then
19:46 davidbrunnthaler is it possible to implement something like this into the typo3 BE? http://www.tfa.w4y.at/___div/dl/jahresuebersicht.html
19:52 Awillys hi there
19:52 Awillys does anyone know if it is possible to overwrite a content element title via TS?
20:26 Phlogi what kind is the crdate in mysql table? I mean how do I crate it?
20:26 Phlogi hmm or what is the difference between tstamp?
20:27 Phlogi tstamp does refresh on changes too?
20:27 Phlogi but both are: time()?
21:53 Mirra Do I've to pay special attention when I'm trying to install typo3 outside of my web-root folder?
22:34 Mirra all backend user data is stored secretly, right?
22:41 Mirra someone here?
22:42 Mirra I think I created a new site, but it complains that it doesn't find a template
22:56 jochke Are there
22:56 jochke doh
22:57 jochke Are there a good guide to teach me how to use conditions in typo script?
23:03 Mirra is
23:03 Mirra I'm sorry, I don't know
23:12 jochke Does this look like something that gives any sense? http://phpfi.com/336109
23:17 jochke Ahh I think I've found a solution. This typo script is not for babies. :D

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