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00:00 Phlogi hey freaks anyone here?
00:04 Hennes I don't know
00:04 Hennes I don't think, I'm a freak..
00:05 Hennes ;)
00:11 Phlogi hehe, there is no newer tsref than 4.1?
00:12 Phlogi look what I've done: a typo3 pastebin plugin with syntax highliting and linking to tsref.... (not all done by me actually)
00:12 Phlogi http://192.168.1.100/t3_dev/index.php?id=571&tx_pastebin_pi1[showPost]=3
00:12 Phlogi oops
00:12 Phlogi http://phlogiston.homelinux.org/t3_dev/index.php?id=571&tx_pastebin_pi1[showPost]=3
00:13 Phlogi don't forget to copy that showPost=3 as well
00:15 Phlogi what do you think?
00:17 Hennes a moment please
00:18 Hennes nice
00:19 Hennes and it is easy to copy the code
00:19 Phlogi hehe thanks
00:19 Phlogi I'm still improving it
00:19 Phlogi not sure how to display the infos about the post itself on top...
00:21 Hennes I think some infos are not so important, so you can post it after the code
00:21 Hennes for example the link to access
00:23 Phlogi hmm I think the link is the most important thing... especially because the browser link will not link to the paste after a sending a new one
00:25 Hennes ok... that an other situation I thought before
00:26 Hennes so... I go to bed
00:26 Hennes n8
00:45 mrleo does anyone know where I can get good instruction/manul
00:45 mrleo sorry... manual for tt_news?
00:49 Phlogi nice eh? http://192.168.1.100/t3_dev/index.php?id=571&tx_pastebin_pi1[showPost]=9
00:50 Phlogi mrleo: typo3.org/extensions
00:51 mrleo Phlogi: thanks. Anything else, more suitable for a beginner?
01:59 Tsoots how can i set a starting point using ts
02:00 Tsoots for a plugin this seems to be only available in the flexform and i'd like to set the thing fully up with ts
02:06 Phlogi for what plugin?
02:06 Phlogi maybe its just no possible with ts
02:06 Tsoots eluna pagecomments
02:06 Tsoots it's not according to manual
02:06 Tsoots thought there was some tricks to do it anyway
08:49 jochke Are there a way to set "mod.SHARED.colPos_list = 1,0,2" on the current page. And on all subpages i should only be "mod.SHARED.colPos_list = 0"?
10:41 Awillys hi there
10:41 Awillys Newsletter for maonly tt_news stuff: directmail or aux_newsmailer?
10:42 Awillys *mainly
11:00 d|g hi all
11:53 jochke Anyone who know how to change translations in tt_news? I have a bug in ###BACK_TO_LIST### translation into danish. It's displayed at the bottom of the page http://shortlink.co.uk/um9. (<- tilbage til nyhedslisten)
11:54 jochke And the same problem with the "Select a category:" translation on this page: http://shortlink.co.uk/uma
11:57 Phlogi_ jochke: just edit the language file
11:58 Phlogi_ best to do this is to use an extension
11:58 daKmoR or edit the language file and send it to the autor...
11:58 Phlogi_ llxmltranslate
11:58 Phlogi_ locallang-XML translation tool (llxmltranslate)
11:58 daKmoR I think he would be happy about a proper translation...
11:59 Phlogi_ jochke: yes send the bugs back to the author
12:30 jochke where do I find the language file?
12:33 jochke Ahh I found something in Ext manager - edit files
12:34 JohPie jochke: what do you want to do?
12:35 jochke JohPie: correct some lang. translations in tt_news
12:35 JohPie do you want change the translation?
12:35 JohPie than do it in the TS of the template and not in the extension code
12:36 jochke JohPie: There are some bug in the translation.
12:37 JohPie ok... but report these bugs
12:37 Phlogi_ jochke: I told you to use that extension. Its very easy to do it with that tool
12:38 Phlogi_ furthermore changes will be kept when you update tt_news
12:38 jochke Phlogi_: Ahh that I'll try.
12:39 Phlogi_ :)
12:42 d|g jochke, try this http://phpfi.com/336248
12:43 d|g in TS Template
12:46 jochke d|g: Is TS Template the TSconfig for the page?
12:46 d|g no
12:48 jochke Ahh I found the right place to put the code. It's not easy this typo3.
12:50 d|g Web > Template > Info/Modify
13:10 Phlogi_ d|g: you might wana use my TS pastebin soon :)
13:13 Phlogi_ d|g: it would have told you that one end brace is missing ;)
13:29 devcow i have a news are on the right site on my page i want the news are not in every site how can i control this in tyo3?
13:30 Phlogi_ what variable like EXT: do I use go come to that path? typo3/sysext/t3skin/icons/gfx/savedok.gif
13:30 Phlogi_ I mean what is the prefix for typo3?
13:40 JohPie Does anybody knew anything about dam version 1.1 ?
13:46 d|g Phlogi_, you are right, missing } in my code =)
13:50 Phlogi_ hehe :) d|g
14:10 jochke Does aynyone know, if it's possible to let a user/usergroup only have permission to use a specific news category in tt_news? So I actualle can set the usergroup "car_editors" to post to the category "cars"?
14:11 Tsoots jochke, yes that's possible
14:12 davidbrunnthaler how can i disable the context-menu in the list view?
14:12 jochke Tsoots: Do you know if I need to write TS code, or there is a gui easy way to do it?
14:12 Tsoots gui
14:13 Tsoots have you actually tried setting up a user group?
14:13 Tsoots it's there
14:15 jochke Ahh yah... Found the featyre at the "Extended" tab.
14:20 mklappstuhl could anybody say me how to configure a spacer which divides 2 menus
14:34 mklappstuhl does anybody know how to stop the auto generation of a menu out of the pagetree with a spacer ???
15:04 michael_ does typo3 have security issues?
15:18 ries mklappstuhl: don't render the spacer?
15:29 Phlogi_ hey ries
15:29 ries hey Phlogi_
15:29 Phlogi_ are you able to change the topic here?
15:29 ries I guess so...
15:29 ries did I miss anything?? :D
15:30 Phlogi_ no no, I'm working on a typoscript pastebin...
15:30 Phlogi_ it does report syntax errors too and links to the tsref for the objects
15:30 Phlogi_ So I hope you will include it here in the topic so ppl start using it
15:31 ries Ahhhh ok... yeaaa I can add that URL
15:33 Phlogi_ hehe
15:33 Phlogi_ its kind of cool... but I fail at configure my .htaccess so that paste.mydomain.net/zxy becomes mydomain.net/foo/bar/zxy :(
15:35 Phlogi_ thats my current code, maybe someone can help? http://rafb.net/p/VvjoDm44.html
15:36 ries I am not a rewrite guru... but doesn't that always happen?
15:36 Phlogi_ hmm nope, not on my server... or what do you mean?
15:43 ries what are you trying to accomplish?
15:47 Phlogi_ fixed it thanks :)
15:47 Phlogi_ ries: you might wana check out: paste.phlogi.net
15:48 Phlogi_ its not finished yet
15:49 ries let me know when it's finished, then I'll add the URL
15:51 Phlogi_ ries: do you like then? :)
15:51 ries I think you need to change the fields around...
15:51 ries much liek pastebin.com
15:51 ries first the paste.. then ask for additional info
15:54 Phlogi_ ries: hehe ok
15:54 ries make it full screen helps to I think
16:01 Phlogi_ ok I'll check that
16:01 Phlogi_ I'm still having redirecting issues :S
16:09 ries Phlogi_: why not create a virtual host?
16:09 Phlogi_ its not a root server
16:10 ries what the hell is a root server?
16:10 ries can't you not create additional virtual hosts?
16:11 Phlogi_ nope of course not :)
16:11 ries weird....
16:11 Phlogi_ at least I don't think so
16:11 Phlogi_ hmm anyway I would still have the issue imho
16:11 ries I even seen these panel host that you can do it...
16:11 Phlogi_ RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://paste\.phlogi\.net/$ [NC]
16:11 Phlogi_ whats wrong with that?
16:12 Phlogi_ I need a condition if only the subdomain is called without /foobar
16:12 ries Phlogi_: for me to long ago since I did that stuff
16:15 Phlogi_ ah finally :)
16:15 Phlogi_ I hope at least
16:40 RoyalKnight_ Phlogi_: i think you should use REQUEST_URI instead of HTTP_REFERER
17:02 davidbrunnthaler how can i replace a whole div but also replace a single word? is this possible at all?
17:19 ries davidbrunnthaler: Q: why not put the right element instead of replacing the div?
17:20 ries you can replace a single word, depends on what and where... might not be build in on what you are planning to do
17:21 yacc Any idea what could cause Apache to log an 500 when accessing index.php, but nothing to error.log?
17:22 yacc 88.117.82.255 - - [27/Jul/2008:08:28:34 -0700] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 500 - "-" "curl/7.18.0 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8g zlib/1.2.3.3 libidn/1.1"
17:22 ries yacc: check your php.loh
17:22 ries log
17:22 yacc ries: Where?
17:23 ries whew php stores the log... depends on your system
17:23 yacc ries: Ubuntu stock install?
17:23 ries no clue... really
17:23 ries check php.ini for the location
17:23 yacc Nothing called php\*.log in either /var/log or /mnt/dgs :(
17:24 ries yacc: check php.ini for it's location
17:24 ries it might not be enabled by default
17:24 yacc it's disabled, yeah.
17:26 ries yacc: 500 means something bad happens... so PHP might have been crashing... apache doesn't know then what was going on
17:27 yacc ries: well, it's a new server, restoring a site that seems to be running ancient stuff.
17:28 ries yacc: then having the log enabled is a must..... and properly will tell you what was going (wr)on(g)
17:30 yacc The bad is that php.log does not get created it seems :(
17:30 ries yacc: did you restart apache?
17:30 yacc yes.
17:30 yacc A test.php that contains no PHP code works.
17:31 ries you must have done something wrong in the php.ini...
17:31 ries OR php will create the file as soon as it has something to say in the log
17:33 yacc Ok, I've created php.log, I've made it world writeable, and I made the parent directory searchable (a+x) for world.
17:33 yacc Still no output :(
17:34 ries don't create a php.log file...
17:34 ries it will get created for you
17:34 ries where are you putting it?
17:35 yacc Well, now I put it in /tmp/
17:35 yacc No php log for me even in /tmp/
17:35 ries ...
17:35 ries /tmp/php.log sounds good
17:35 yacc Still not there :(
17:36 yacc Now that is peachy.
17:36 yacc I've installed php5-cli
17:36 yacc I'm trying to run /mnt/dgs/index.php via the cli, and get no output?
17:37 ries clie should tell you some errors I think
17:37 ries But I never done much cli work
17:37 yacc ries: I'm getting no output, exit code 255
17:38 davidbrunnthaler ries: http://phpfi.com/336305 that's what my template looks like
17:39 davidbrunnthaler and i now would like to replace the div with styles.content.get (i already did it)
17:39 davidbrunnthaler but that would also replace the marker
17:39 yacc ries: Running php on a dummy file echos the content, so the php cli works basically :(
17:40 ries yacc: must be something in the PHP code then
17:40 davidbrunnthaler is it possible at all? or should i rethink my template?
17:40 ries davidbrunnthaler: Hmm that's the old fashioned way I don't know much about....
17:40 ries possible it's possible, but I have use templavoila only
17:40 ries brb
17:41 yacc ries: yeah, but how do I figure it out?
17:41 davidbrunnthaler i don't use templa voila
17:44 RoyalKnight_ yacc: do you get an output for phpinfo()? is php running as module or through cgi?
17:45 yacc RoyalKnight_, currently I'm trying it out with the cmdline, and I'm getting exit code 255/no output. But the install is fine, because Hello World and echoing files works fine.
17:46 psychomieze davidbrunnthaler: is this the same thing you just wrote in the mailinglist about?
17:46 davidbrunnthaler jup
17:47 RoyalKnight_ yacc: you get this return code when you call your script in command line returning error 500 in your browser?
17:47 yacc yes, and no error.log, nor php.log output.
17:48 yacc RoyalKnight_, It's a typo3 site that I'm trying to restore, that has been not updated for a long time.
17:48 ries yacc: I don't think that php created a php.log under cli mode
17:48 yacc ries, it did not do it with Apache either.
17:49 RoyalKnight_ yacc: have you installed mod_php, suphp or the cgi-version?
17:49 yacc mod_php
17:49 yacc But I've tracked it a bit already.
17:49 yacc It does not find TSlib.
17:50 yacc echo "X";echo $PATH_tslib;echo "X"; gives a unnice XX output.
17:52 RoyalKnight_ yacc: any errors in install tool?
17:53 yacc RoyalKnight_, I cannot run the install tool?
17:53 yacc RoyalKnight_, first it's already an existing site, but worse, I'm getting that error when trying to run the index.php on toplevel.
17:54 yacc But I'm tracking it down slowly.
17:54 yacc define('PATH_thisScript',str_replace('//','/', str_replace('\\','/', (php_sapi_name()=='cgi'||php_sapi_name()=='isapi' ||php_sapi_name()=\
17:54 yacc ='cgi-fcgi')&&($_SERVER['ORIG_PATH_TRANSLATED']?$_SERVER['ORIG_PATH_TRANSLATED']:$_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED'])? ($_SERVER['ORIG_PATH_TRANS\
17:54 yacc LATED']?$_SERVER['ORIG_PATH_TRANSLATED']:$_SERVER['PATH_TRANSLATED']):($_SERVER['ORIG_SCRIPT_FILENAME']?$_SERVER['ORIG_SCRIPT_FILENAME']:\
17:54 yacc $_SERVER['SCRIPT_FILENAME']))));
17:54 yacc This define gives me an empty string, when run under Apache?
17:54 ries yacc: are symlinks allowed in PHP?
17:55 yacc ries?
17:55 ries yacc: there is an option in apache to follow symlinks or not...
17:56 ries I assume you are using the unix packages of-course
17:57 yacc Ubuntu Hardy Server image.
17:58 ries unix packages of TYPO3 I mean
17:59 yacc No, I've got an ugly tree.zip, that seems to come from an ancient MSWindows setup package.
17:59 ries Hmmm sorry to hear windows
18:00 yacc 1. About this package
18:00 yacc ******************************************
18:00 yacc Please note that you have downloaded the "dummy.zip" package. This package
18:00 yacc contains Typo3's core files and a database file with a clean pagetree BUT
18:00 yacc with an admin user already configured (user: admin, password: password).
18:00 yacc Note that some files and folders are duplicated in order to work on Windows
18:00 yacc systems.
18:00 ries should work under unix though
18:00 yacc Windows is one thing, the other one is that the package as such seems to come from a different epoch.
18:00 ries what version of typo3?
18:01 yacc How do I check?
18:01 yacc README.txt has a 2002 timestamp
18:01 yacc 4.1.1
18:01 ries that's an 'ok' version
18:02 ries should work on php5 if I remember
18:02 yacc Well, I still cannot get it to figure out it's own path.
18:02 ries some extensions might not
18:02 yacc Yeah, but that does not solve the question why it's dieing on me?
18:03 yacc The exit 255 seems to be the die in index.php that it could not figure out the path to tslib
18:03 ries I never seen that issue on ubuntu...
18:03 ries the zip comes from a windows machine? sure?
18:04 yacc Well, no, it came from an unspecified Shared Hosting Linux box.
18:04 ries what's your directory layout?
18:05 yacc Let's put it bluntly, it has been thrown to me by the former service provider that does not want to bother to help the customer nor me, he just wants the customer gone, as the site has generated to much load on his hardware ;(
18:05 Phlogi_ ries: so what do you think now: paste.phlogi.net/
18:06 Phlogi_ I'm running out of time for this... I hope thats enough for the moment now...
18:06 ries yacc: hehehe I accespted a client like that one day... it's good fun :D
18:06 yacc ries, not if it's your first typo3 install too.
18:07 ries Hmm yeaaa then that sucks....
18:09 Phlogi_ ries: you might just replace the link in the topic? :)
18:10 ries give me a minute to figure out how to create ops status again :D
18:10 Phlogi_ ries: hihi no problem :D
18:10 Phlogi_ are you still loggin the channel actually?
18:10 ries I think so
18:11 Phlogi_ gg
18:13 psychomieze Phlogi_: you finished it? just tried it... but one question: where does the <x> come from? paste.phlogi.net/-5b8b22995b/
18:15 yacc ries: when I paste the <?php ?> stuff from index.php into a test.php, and hardcode the path, I get NO output from the <?php ?> at all, but it copies the text around the <?php ?>
18:15 Phlogi_ yacc: whats your problem actually?
18:15 yacc Phlogi_, I get a 500 in Apache, no error.log nor php.log, and when I try to run it via php cli, I'm getting exit code 255 and no output at all.
18:15 Phlogi_ psychomieze: hmm from removeXSS I guess
18:15 Phlogi_ thats one problem remaining
18:15 Phlogi_ psychomieze: I need to make that function less aggressive
18:16 Phlogi_ psychomieze: I'm using this function: http://rafb.net/p/PoHfLC82.html
18:16 psychomieze Phlogi_: ah... it thought my styles was a style tag or something like that
18:16 Phlogi_ exactly yes...
18:16 Phlogi_ and thats how it entschäfts it
18:17 Phlogi_ I never actually looked at that function... as it looks a bit crytpic... if you have an idea, you're welcome to help
18:17 Phlogi_ or maybe you even know a better solution
18:20 psychomieze Phlogi_: that's the same TYPO3 uses (t3lib_div::removeXSS), so I don't really know a better one... one thing though comes to my mind: one could insert - instead of <x> - perhaps something like <span style="display:none";></span> - that should work too, shouldn't it?
18:21 Phlogi_ psychomieze: yes good idea
18:22 Phlogi_ psychomieze: hmm afterwards its displayed in <pre> anyway... so that span would be displayed as span bla
18:24 psychomieze hmm... ok. that would be as bad as now.
18:25 psychomieze another question: are malicious tags wrapped in <pre> dangerous? <- read: are they executed?
18:26 Phlogi_ psychomieze: nope I don't think so
18:26 Phlogi_ hmm or wait
18:26 Phlogi_ they are, of course
18:26 Phlogi_ wondering why that span got displayed
18:26 Phlogi_ need to check that
18:29 Phlogi_ psychomieze: paste.phlogi.net/-d16dee7589/ <- strange somehow
18:30 psychomieze Phlogi_: ok, I can explain that: you are not allowed to have spans inside of spans... and that's what we have here
18:31 Phlogi_ ah what I thought :)
18:31 Phlogi_ hehe
18:31 psychomieze try, I don't know... strong or something
18:33 psychomieze brb
18:36 JohPie Does anyone know an extension that open a new window after click the item in the BE Menu of TYPO3?
18:36 JohPie or know a way to do this with an own extension
18:37 yacc ries: so what should I try now, I mean Typo3 does not show up in Apache? Any ideas?
18:39 Phlogi_ ries: are still figuring out? :D
18:54 psychomieze Phlogi_: have you found a way already?
18:54 Stoffel hi everyone
18:54 psychomieze hi
18:55 Phlogi_ psychomieze: not really... but I don't think its a real problem if these are allowed
18:55 ries Phlogi_: what URL?
18:55 Phlogi_ other pastebin services don't filter them out
18:55 Phlogi_ paste.phlogi.net
18:56 Phlogi_ or http://paste.phlogi.net
18:56 Phlogi_ psychomieze: maybe I should use htmlentities on the string aswell?
18:56 Phlogi_ ries: thanks a lot :)
18:57 Phlogi_ I hope ppl will like it
18:57 psychomieze Phlogi_: that could work... as long as it doesn't show tags with &gt; that would be ugly if one pasted some wraps
18:57 ries Phlogi_: log still works :D http://www.rvantwisk.nl/index.php?id=113&tx_rvteggdroplog_pi1[year]=2008&tx_rvteggdroplog_pi1[month]=7&tx_rvteggdroplog_pi1[day]=27&cHash=8d1d3726c0
18:57 Stoffel were there some significant changes how BE-users are handled, say, between 3.8 and 4.2?
18:57 Phlogi_ psychomieze: hmm thats true...
18:58 Phlogi_ psychomieze: I'm not sure what I should do :
18:58 ries Phlogi_: I get this url, is that good? http://www.phlogi.net/t3/tspastebin/
18:58 Phlogi_ ries: thats perfect yes :)
18:58 Stoffel somehow i can't setup a non-admin BE-user to manage FE-user records..
18:58 Phlogi_ that was the point with redirecting ries...
18:58 Stoffel since i'm missing the option which records he is able to see
18:59 psychomieze Stoffel: in his user group the "include access list" checkbox has to be checked, then you can select what he is allowed to see and edit
19:01 Stoffel psychomieze: arg.. it's been too long for me without typo3. i'm doing the same newbie-mistakes again. thank you very much :-)
19:01 psychomieze Stoffel: no problem :)
19:13 Phlogi_ I hope someone pastes some TS soon :D
19:35 jochke_ Are there a way to get news and calendar items be published/shown immediately when you have made them? I'm using tt_news and calender base.
19:39 jochke_ Is the only way to disable caching of the page?
19:47 Awillys anyone around?
19:50 chefan jochke_: caching depends on the type of the plugin.
19:50 chefan you could check how that is set in the extensions
19:50 chefan for best performance, you typically want as much to be cached as possible
19:51 jochke_ chefan: Yah. I found out, that it worked on tt_news, when I disabled caching on the page. But it didn't helped with cal base.
19:52 chefan it is almost "best worst practice" to set whole pages to no cache pragma for many, but that recuces your systems performance
19:52 chefan i haven't used cal base yet. what's the extension type?
19:56 jochke_ chefan: extension type? :S
19:57 jan28 hey guys, anyone here who might want to help me with a little problem?
19:59 jan28 nobody? :(
20:01 chefan jan28: best practise is to just state the problem first
20:01 chefan saves the noise of "i will", "oops, i have no idea about that"
20:02 JohPie chefan: jan is gone
20:02 chefan lol
20:03 chefan though i didn't expect that i should have known. wasn't worth /names though
20:03 chefan anyway it's even more fun like that
20:07 Phlogi_ haha
20:08 Phlogi_ latest tsref is for 4.1, correct?
20:08 JohPie I think so...
20:11 Phlogi_ strange but ok :)
20:11 JohPie Phlogi_: the last doc_core_tsref is 4.1 from 2007
20:11 JohPie see Extension Repository
20:11 Phlogi_ yes
20:11 Phlogi_ I know
20:12 chefan hell, it takes me more than a minute eve if my wife asks me favors and doesn't state what she wants first
20:13 chefan way too dangerous to commit to things like that without checking first
20:28 Phlogi_ chefan: hihi
20:34 jochke_ Anyone who have experience with disabling caching in calendar base? I can't find how to do that.
20:35 jan28 hi everyone. i want to create a menu using two gmenus for two levels. now i've set a background image for the first gmenu (level 1). this covers the whole first level. but if a the menu, is expanded the level 1 items may be on another position (depends on which item is expanded). there the image of the old position is used not the image of the new position. how can i fix this?
20:41 jan28 i made a picture to make it clear: http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/155/thxiu0.jpg
20:46 jan28 are you all busy or do you just decide to let my stand in the rain?
20:47 psychomieze jan28: I'm not busy but I don't know how to help you.
20:48 jan28 thx for an answer at all
20:53 chefan jan28: your choice to feel offended, but it won't help you much
20:54 Chrisi81 excuse me if thats a newbee question: Is it possible to alter the output of what is rendered from the tt_content table?
20:54 chefan have a bit of patience. if someone knew an easy answer and had the time to give it, you'd prolly have your solution already
20:55 chefan Chrisi81: you can alter everything, and if you do it with hooking into the output part of the rendering process
20:55 Chrisi81 I mean: An editor adds some text in the backend. I want to alter some of the text through typoscript.
20:56 Chrisi81 my idea is that if the editor enters ###somemarker### in the textfield in the backend i want to adress that thing through thyposcript
20:56 Chrisi81 -h
20:57 Chrisi81 chefan: ok that point is clear, but i like it simple as above...
20:58 chefan yep, that's why i didn't say more. typoscript is not my world ;)
20:59 chefan they don't use me for that
21:02 Chrisi81 chefan: thx anyway, at least someone who listens to me ;-)
21:23 Mirrakor Is typo3 the right CMS if I've writers which doesn't exactly know what they do (or let's say they're "just word users")?
21:25 chefan let's say it can be the right cms
21:25 chefan depends on how you set it up
21:25 chefan with the writers how you describe them, i'd aim for frontend editing with rtf-editor for instance
21:30 Mirrakor Current workflow is -> Writer write text in Word with pictures and everything. Here OOo does the extracting (text and pictures), then we've to use quanta or whatever fits to create a whole new page, uploading it, uploading the pictures, create a new link on the startsite
21:30 Mirrakor I'd like to automate that
21:30 Mirrakor or at least simplyfie it
21:34 Mirrakor ch
21:34 Mirrakor chefan: Think that this is the right approach?
21:36 chefan that could work. the openoffice conversion works quite well, though i haven't checked how high the bloat factor is
21:36 chefan personally i'd use more of a wysiwyg approach
21:37 Mirrakor OOo bloating is too big :D
21:37 chefan like a frontend editing form with richtext
21:37 Mirrakor Also the approche should be that the writers are more independent
21:37 chefan i would probably aim for simplified wiki style
21:38 Mirrakor hm.. another idea
21:38 chefan with a lot of autoformatting
21:38 Mirrakor but we've an already existing style which we're bound to
21:38 chefan you could even request raw texts from the authors and tex them
21:38 chefan i supposed so
21:39 chefan actually that was the reason why i wouldn't offer too many formatting possibilities to the authors, but look for a way to do the formatting automagically
21:40 chefan let them decide what a paragraph and a headline is, as well as in which text block they want illustrations
21:41 chefan then set up (or formalize existing) layout secifications and set up a way to put the contributions in that format
21:41 chefan an obvious choice would be tex or something like that

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