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01:23 kaynine Hello. I have in the last few days spent several hours, arduous yet enjoyable, "mastering"? an installation into existing LAMP host.
01:24 kaynine What I see now is that the "Dummy" site is completely empty.
01:25 kaynine The testsite and quickstart "dummys" aren't compatible with core v4.2
01:25 kaynine the "Extension Manager" is described as a beautiful thing; but I can't find one anywhere :)
01:26 kaynine and I'm feeling somewhere between dizzy and defeated
01:27 kaynine Am I in the Twilight Zone with this? :)
01:40 kaynine wiki insists, erroneously, that cookies are disabled in the browser
02:11 kaynine so, I install 3.8.1 core to go with testsite and quickstart
02:12 kaynine testsite frontend loads and looks good; backend error: "You must use 4+ browsers with TYPO3!" (using firefox2)
02:18 kaynine The change for TYPO3_CONF_VARS[GFX][TTFdpi]=96 should probably be built into the installers.
02:19 kaynine quickstart site has same backend browser ID problem; frontend comes up looking like bigfeet probably meant it to.
02:22 kaynine now I'll try the current dummy again; last time I escaped/quit the 1-2-3 but went through the rest of the config panels
02:24 kaynine those test and quick installs with 3.8.1 were with php5 version 5.2.6-0.dotdeb.1 btw
02:34 kaynine the current dummy site: still a backend browser ID problem "Your browser version looks incompatible with this TYPO3 version!" ... and frontend is indeed empty. "No pages are found on the rootlevel!"
02:34 kaynine So, now I'll fiddle and attempt upgrade.
02:35 kaynine but I probably won't be fiddling much with that browser rejection
02:58 XiXora anyone awake?
03:09 XiXora :)
03:09 XiXora happen to know stuff about access to pages and be users?
03:10 XiXora i'm scratching my head so much
03:10 kaynine sure don't; sorry; I'm still installing
03:13 XiXora aww ok
03:19 kaynine !_Good_! ... I corrected my browser problems with an adjustment to my privoxy configuration. !_No_Action_Required_! :)
04:19 kaynine everyting is looking very nice really .... except for the two stage upgrade path
04:24 XiXora :)
04:26 kaynine after deleting all extensions one at a time /g
04:28 chefan kaynine: sorry, you hit on typo3 with bad timing, since the moving of the main site the documentation (especially the search) is a bit fubar
04:28 chefan personally i think though, the tutorials on typo3.org offer more than the dummy site
04:29 kaynine bad timing affirmed :) but I'm enjoying it somehow
04:29 chefan the startup may seem a bit slower, but personally i think it pays off in the end to start out from scratch
04:29 chefan heh, we'll talk in three months :D
04:30 chefan kidding. typo3 is ok. just depends on what for
04:31 kaynine if there was any kind of minimum "dummy" for the current version, it'd be a huge help; just a couple system extensions even. like the Manager. and a front page like testsite.
04:32 chefan well, there is, sort of
04:32 kaynine the 3.8.1 testsite looks good in the backend; and I have the WEC sampler loaded also.
04:32 chefan typo3 includes default templates
04:33 chefan so you can as well start a site tree, select a default layout, enter some page data and start to play with typoscript and plugins, depending on where you intend to go from there
04:33 kaynine my dummy site install had no tables at all
04:33 chefan do you plan to stick to popular out of the box extensions or do you intend to twek your site yourself, extension development and stuff?
04:34 XiXora 3.8.1?
04:34 chefan well possible, the dummy site is quite basic
04:34 XiXora why you using that version?
04:34 kaynine one step at a time :) .... exploring at this point.
04:34 chefan XiXora: dummysite
04:34 XiXora ahh i see
04:34 chefan it's still offered, but doesn't work with 4.x
04:34 XiXora i never got around to trying that
04:35 chefan me neither, it didn't work ;)
04:35 chefan http://buzz.typo3.org/people/stucki/article/typo3-frontend-rendering-explained/
04:35 kaynine I installed 4.2.1 first; but the dummy had zero content; so I followed some potentially obsolete instruction and installed the older core to match the available testsite/quickstart
04:35 chefan for later. know your enemy, as they say
04:36 kaynine test/quick aren't compatible with 4.2 core
04:36 chefan to my mind the most helpful documentation if you are interested, what typo3 does with your cpu time
04:36 kaynine "if it's this hard, it's got to be worth it!" :)
04:36 XiXora chefan: you wouldnt know anything about access and the view module?
04:36 chefan not more than grep knows
04:37 XiXora heh not exactly, but my friend vouches for t3 alot
04:37 chefan what are you looking for?
04:37 XiXora well
04:37 XiXora i got non-admins in the be
04:37 chefan hmm
04:37 XiXora but i want them to see things they are adding to the front end
04:37 chefan thought about connecting fe to be users and allow front end editing?
04:38 XiXora but as the front end has only a certain fe usergroup added they cant see them
04:38 chefan non admins in the backend make me nervous in typo, don't ask why
04:38 XiXora well i dont want them to edit everything
04:38 XiXora basically only add pages and content and post tt_news items
04:39 chefan well, you can connect a fe user or user group to a be login and allow or deny rights accordingly
04:39 chefan there is n extension around that uses that and i remember some docs too
04:41 XiXora hmm
04:41 XiXora i have that installed
04:41 XiXora doesnt seem to allow
04:41 XiXora i'll have a last quick look before bed
04:43 chefan http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/simulatebe/1.0.0/ <- this one?
04:43 XiXora yeah
04:46 chefan did you follow step 1.3 of the docs? the ts patching?
04:46 XiXora omg
04:47 XiXora i didnt see that lol
04:47 XiXora ta
04:47 XiXora not best way as he wants
04:47 XiXora but it'll do
04:47 chefan heh :) happens again and again. that's why i asked
04:48 chefan i am over forty, i have no more time to waste by NOT rtfm-ing ;)
04:48 chefan but i prefer plugins that you plug in and they work as well
04:49 XiXora i have read it tho
04:50 XiXora i was like, oh must be incompatible
04:50 chefan kaynine: it IS hard and if you plan big or complex sites, it IS worth it, as long as you want to stick to lampp environment.
04:51 kaynine I think the architecture here is brilliant; I'm lovin it
04:51 kaynine it's just a long obscure circuitous oblique and obtuse path to the starting point :)
04:52 kaynine (bad timing) acknowledged.
04:53 chefan hmm
04:53 kaynine And I know it's a pretty major upgrade at this point; so I'm happy :)
04:54 chefan upgrade from?
04:54 kaynine I found no testsite/quickstart/dummy for 4.2.1
04:54 kaynine Couldn't get the backend loaded because the db was "empty"
04:55 XiXora ooh ok
04:55 XiXora one line of tscript
04:55 XiXora silly
04:55 chefan *g*
04:55 XiXora diolch
04:55 chefan reminds me of a workmate
04:56 XiXora thing is, i read that
04:56 XiXora prob out of frustration, miss small things
04:56 chefan i made a service for him that hooked into the rendering before and after page build
04:57 chefan since the hooks run sitewide, some page config was needed to activate it. and the first time, he didn't read my mail to the end
05:03 XiXora in 3.8 i used to miss out putting the static templates in
05:04 XiXora ta for that oversight btw
05:04 XiXora i'll fix rest of the bugs in my site later ;)
05:07 kaynine I should revise my report again ....
05:07 kaynine After another run through the installer with 4.2.1 dummy ....
05:08 kaynine I found some things which I hadn't done properly before
05:08 kaynine in the database analyser
05:10 kaynine so now I DO have access to a backend
05:10 kaynine no front end pages; but I'll get through that I expect
05:11 chefan that's normal. no content, no page
05:11 chefan bob marley made a song about that
05:12 kaynine no woman, no cry
05:12 chefan once you have a template, that changes
05:13 chefan ten you can drop in content and your site evolves
05:15 kaynine I'm not sure how to get back to "1-2-3" mode after escaping that for the detailed installer.
05:16 kaynine I expect that if I'd stuck with 1-2-3 my database import would have worked better
05:16 kaynine I'll try that with a whole new start .... tomorrow :)
05:17 chefan hmm, i don't like the 123 so much
05:17 kaynine I left more noise in this log than useful content, I'm afraid; and for that I apologize.
05:18 chefan no one needed the lines in the meantime
05:18 chefan and in the age of internet porn, the little bit of more content in the page logs won't bother anyone
05:28 kaynine In hindsight, this installation should take closer to three hours than three days :)
05:30 kaynine I'd separate the root admin tasks (install/configure LAMP and the Typo3 core (and probably some extensions and templates)
05:30 kaynine from the Typo3 admin tasks of downloading the dummy, setting up the symlink (assigned by the root admin) and running the installer.
05:30 chefan setting up lampp and typo3 core is something that's routine after a few times
05:31 chefan building a site is another story
05:32 kaynine site building, and maintenance, is eternal isn't it?
05:32 chefan depending on the site it can be
05:33 chefan if you create a governemental site with intranet it may stay a while as it is, just content rolling through
05:34 kaynine now that I've practiced a lot, I'll make a fresh start again tomorrow, and see where that momentum carries me
05:34 chefan but if you target the internet customer, you always have to come up with something new
05:35 kaynine in my experience, governments work better in theory than in practice; I favor them; just wish they didn't do such a sucky job.
05:37 chefan lol
05:37 kaynine I'm looking to typo3 as a group collaboration site; not very public; no advertising; maybe no search engine referrals
05:38 chefan when i moved to chile i was surprised that in a lot of aspects they work better than in europe
05:38 chefan group collaboration will be intranettish?
05:39 kaynine some of the most exciting governments on the planet these days are in South America
05:39 kaynine group collab will be intERnettish
05:40 kaynine (also some of the most exciting civilian initiatives)
05:41 chefan for instance, i can not only make all my tax stuff in a web interface, i can even write my invoices with it
05:42 chefan a great idea to my mind
05:42 kaynine how does typo3 integrate a wiki? extension? ... wiki.typo3.org looks like standard mediawiki
05:42 chefan not having to invest in software for invoicing and shit is actually a service, so you get something back live and direct for your taxes
05:43 chefan browse the repository :)
05:43 kaynine yeah, but "does it run [in] DOS ?"
05:44 chefan the repository?
05:44 kaynine the invoicing :)
05:44 chefan it's the 21st century. "does it run on SAP?"
05:45 chefan worst peice of bloat ever known to man
05:45 kaynine the only thing I can see on SAP is my thumb :)
05:45 chefan the ups delivery guy that delivered my stock hated SAP
05:46 chefan they incorporated a route checking system for ups, that calculates the packet routes with 5min accuracy
05:46 chefan it was just impossible to maintain all the data up to date with traffic jams and construction site detours
05:47 chefan so he had to go to his boss to explain being late 2-3 times a week
05:48 chefan a good example why powerfull software looses it's worth with feebleminded decisionmakers
05:48 kaynine OK folks; thanks for helping; I'll check in again soon enough
05:49 chefan good luck
05:49 kaynine np :)
08:11 jochke does anyone have experience with BE auth. with an openldap server?
08:28 Kingston hi
08:57 mikhas morning folks.
08:59 mikhas i've setup commerce a few times and those times I've setup the shop with a category-listing-page and pages for products, could this be simplified even further, since the structure is already there in commerce?
09:31 SmaxTheFrog hi, i have a file field in own ext, if i want to add a file it tells me that file limit is 1M in typo3 4.2 but i extended max filesize in installtool to 50m, so where might the 1m limit come from ?
09:34 Stoffel SmaxTheFrog: from php settings probably
09:35 SmaxTheFrog nope all is set to 50m
09:36 SmaxTheFrog seems to be typo3 limit, but i dont find where else it needs to be set except install tool
09:37 Stoffel post_max_size in php.ini?
09:37 Stoffel upload_max_filesize?
09:38 SmaxTheFrog as i said php.ini id did set everything to 50M
09:38 SmaxTheFrog apache is restartet, typo3 conf is uncached
09:39 Stoffel what does the install tool say under basic configuration, "Maximum upload filesize..."
09:39 SmaxTheFrog it must be something like filesize for file to include, the problem is not the upload it is uploaded, but when i want to insert the file from /fileadmin/ folder the limit occurs
09:39 Stoffel ah. so maybe a lower limit in your own extension?
09:40 Stoffel chech the $TCA, tables.php etc.
09:40 Stoffel ckeck
09:40 SmaxTheFrog mmt i will
09:41 SmaxTheFrog oh man, thx to help the blind man see, my global tca is overwritten by my ext tca - thx, guess i need vacation
09:41 Stoffel can you "grep -r typo3conf/ext/yourext maxFileSize"
09:42 Stoffel ah, okay
09:42 Stoffel glad i could help :-)
09:46 SmaxTheFrog now i know why i was tricked, when setting filesize in ext manager to 50000 it is reset to 1000 after pressing update ?!? anyone knows why ?
09:46 beeeviz is there a way to set the max image width constant (styles.content.imgtext.maxW) dynamically?
09:50 beeeviz i need something like styles.content.imgtext.maxW = user_deviceResolution()
09:51 RoyalKnight beeeviz: do you know the difference between client- and serverside?
09:51 beeeviz yes i do
09:52 RoyalKnight beeeviz: so images are server generated and screen resolution can only be found out on clientside
09:55 beeeviz nope. not on mobile phones
09:56 beeeviz there are several device databases where you can look up the (approx.) display size by useragent
09:57 Stoffel SmaxTheFrog: too large?
09:57 Stoffel does 10000 work?
10:04 SmaxTheFrog i will try
10:06 bayer how can i create links (i.e. realurl links only having a uid) within cli extensions?
10:17 maholtz|WORK @bayer: i think you should instantiate an cObj
10:18 Titi Hey friends, Can you preffer me some nice work task reminder and scheduler? I just need to set the deadline, priority, and so on, and system should automaticaly remind me for deadline days coming. Thank you for good tipes. It should by also win app.
10:21 bayer maholtz|WORK, thats what i tried, but i didn't succeed
10:22 Titi voidus hello
10:23 maholtz|WORK @bayer: what did not work?
10:23 bayer wait, i'll paste a link with the code
10:26 bayer http://rafb.net/p/dnKPM364.html
10:26 bayer this code results in a "Call to a member function on a non-object in ...class.tslib_content.php" error
10:36 bayer Titi, check out http://www.rememberthemilk.com
10:43 bayer maholtz|WORK, what's the correct way to instantiate a cobj?
10:46 maholtz|WORK @bayer: did you get the cObj?
10:47 bayer yes, i have a cobj, but the function call fails
10:47 maholtz|WORK perhaps you could have an look in some extensions which use cli too -> crawler f.e.?
10:48 bayer this line gives true: if (method_exists($this->cObj,'getTypoLink_URL')) echo "true";
10:49 maholtz|WORK $this->Obj->stdWrap('hello',array('wrap.' => 'prefix|postfix'));
10:49 maholtz|WORK too?
10:50 maholtz|WORK ups 'wrap' instead of 'wrap.'
10:51 bayer yes, this line works
10:52 maholtz|WORK ok, and $this->cObj->typoLink('text',array('parameter' => 123)); // where 123 is a valid page id
10:53 teppi|work can i define the doktype of a page in the datastructure for a new page type?
10:53 teppi|work in templa voila?
10:57 bayer maholtz|WORK, no - again the same error
10:57 bayer call to a member function on a non-object in class.tslib_content.php on line 5177
11:00 maholtz|WORK @bayer: do not know, what you have to do exactly; search for extensions wich do what you need
11:01 bayer ok thx
11:02 bayer crawler doesnt instatiate a cobj
11:02 maholtz|WORK if you find anything, please paste it to support.typo3.org/snippets
11:03 maholtz|WORK perhaps you could have an look at eID conzept, there all the things must be initiated too
11:04 pulponair hi there
11:04 bayer maholtz|WORK, good idea - thanks for your help!
11:07 jochke tt_news question - When a specific user adds a news, I want to set a default selected news kategory for this user, and let the news he added to be visible as default. Is it possible? Maybe with typoscipt?
12:06 maholtz|WORK @jochke: i think you should find something in the tt_news manual
12:29 Denyerec Moin all.]
12:29 maholtz|WORK moin
13:00 pulponair any ideas on how to create an raw tx_templavoila_flex skeleton from a ceration templavoila DS?
13:20 randomresult hi there
13:21 randomresult i have a problem with tt-news... in the latest view, it renders an spacer-gif before my image... i dont want typo3 to do that...
13:21 randomresult how to get rid of this?
13:21 randomresult im using typo3 4.2 and the latest tt-news version (2.5.2)
13:23 mikhas don't you just hate when templavoila generates errorenous code upon re-mapping? or when saving a templavoila-template doesn't offer you to save the one you're editing (with no hassle)?
13:30 maholtz|WORK @randomresult: perhaps you have included the wrong static templates?
13:31 Denyerec Yes
13:31 Denyerec make sure you have the CSS static and not the old table based one
13:33 Denyerec hey pmk
13:34 pmk65 hey
13:38 randomresult i have the new one
13:43 swemark Hoj
13:43 mikhas Mark: Miau
13:44 maholtz|WORK @randomresult: check your tt_news typoscript - look for ".spacer"
13:45 maholtz|WORK perhaps
13:51 Stoffel basic php knowledge: difference between include() and @include()?
13:53 emiles Stoffel: http://ch2.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.errorcontrol.php
13:53 jochke Anyone who can tell me how to find out where to put typoscript? It's hard for me to find out if it's in the template, the page or element. Do you have some tricks to understand it?
13:54 maholtz|WORK @jochke: you use templaVoila?
13:54 jochke maholtz|WORK: It's to easy... :)
13:55 Stoffel emiles: wow, thank you very much :-)
13:55 Stoffel pretty neat stuff.. missed it for years
13:55 maholtz|WORK @jochke: i do not really understand whats your problem is
13:57 jochke maholtz|WORK: I just don't really get it... Where I should put ts code.
13:57 Stoffel most of the time.. in the setup-field of your template
14:16 randomresult maholtz i will... thx...
14:16 randomresult i have another prob
14:16 randomresult i have the following ts http://paste.phlogi.net/-3637eb9d53/
14:16 randomresult it works like this: i edit pageproperties and enter an image
14:16 randomresult this is shown on a page
14:17 randomresult now i want all the subpages to have this image too... until i enter a new one on a subpage
14:17 randomresult means "slide"
14:17 randomresult how can i do this
14:17 randomresult my normal slide does not work... why
14:23 Denyerec Anyone ever thought of writing an autosave extension for the RTE ?
14:32 maholtz|WORK @randomresult: perhaps: 10.file.import.data = levelmedia:-1,slide
14:34 fred^^ http://directconnect.no/index.php?id=45 the TMENU on the right hand side is pulling that list from a separate page tree. when you click an main page to see its subpages (for example; Akershus) it moves to the other pagetree, where the main pages are blank. is it possible to have the subpages open up in the menu on click while not moving from the current page (id=45)
14:35 randomresult maholtz|WORK : i tried this... as u can see in my ts
14:35 randomresult but it didnt work
14:38 kaynine just a quick follow-up to my last visit a third of a day ago .... new dummy install went perfectly; ... i am happy and excited :) .... and still have much good reading ahead of me typo3.org; .... thank you all very much!!
14:38 kaynine I will return :)
14:39 Denyerec What a happy chap.
14:39 Denyerec He clearly hasn't tried Commerce or tt_products yet.
14:47 fred^^ :D Lots of fun to be discovered, then
14:47 maholtz|WORK @randomresult: nope, i saw ,"slide" instead ,slide - i think it should make a difference
14:49 SmaxTheFrog does anyone have a simple html code snippled to diplay a flv movie in my own template without javascript ?
14:49 jangla hi! I have an extension question: as we're supposed to use proper Typo3 procedures to build sql queries, how can I build one that self joins to a table? I seem to only be able to use $this->cObj->enableFields('pages'); on one table but as the query requires me to join the table to itself (several times), I can get it to work.
14:52 maholtz|WORK @jangla: enableFields returns an sql-query starting with "AND" so you can combine and use it in your sql-statement more than one time
14:52 SmaxTheFrog how do i load javascript via ts ?
14:53 jangla maholtz - but I need the enableFields to add all the stuff it does for each version of the joined table. can I use enableFields multiple times, once for each join of the table?
14:53 randomresult maholtz|WORK: this works when i work with resources ...
14:54 randomresult but i will try
14:54 maholtz|WORK do you use the samte table twice
14:54 jangla yup - up to 4 times actually
14:55 maholtz|WORK so you have someting like pages as pages1, pages as pages2 etc. .. what happens if you use enableFields(pages1)?
14:57 jangla yup - basically I'm doing a slideshow component on the home page that will grab the first image from slideshows on pages further down inside the tree. let me have a play with enableFields and see if it will allow me to use it more than once on pages1, pages2 etc....
15:13 jangla maholtz - definitely can't use pages2 in enableFields: NO entry in the $TCA-array for the table "pages2". This means that the function enableFields() is called with an invalid table name as argument.
15:16 beli hi folks...
15:17 beli i want to do my first own typo3 extension.....i read that i shall use kickstarter for it....but is there a well documentation or an example for creating an extension?
15:17 beli like howto add backend fields,select buttons and how the entered values are used...
15:18 jangla beli - http://www.mcuniverse.com/Form-Extension-Tutorial.166.0.html
15:19 beli jangla: thanks i will look into it
15:30 maholtz|WORK @jangla: it is not nice, but you could do enableFields and then replace 'pages' into 'pages2' and do it for each table you need enableFields for
15:31 maholtz|WORK i do not know if there is a typo-like way for that
15:31 maholtz|WORK probably you should ask in newsgroup
15:31 jangla hmmm, I think the only way to do it really is to grab the first level of uid's then loop through them creating a new query each time. not ideal but clean.
15:33 randomresult maholtz|WORK: as u can see in my ts, the default produced by tv says current = 1
15:33 randomresult i now tried slide without ""
15:34 randomresult i tried current and slide and i tried data and slide
15:34 randomresult i dont get it...
15:34 maholtz|WORK does it work without slide?
15:35 randomresult yeah... the page where i add a picture ... it show the picture
15:35 randomresult but not on the subpages
15:35 randomresult the ts i posted is the original from tv
15:36 randomresult i have a ts... this takes the "media" field... when i add a picture in the files of a page
15:36 randomresult and this ts slides up... until it finds a picture
15:37 randomresult but i need the files for a navigation... so i cant use the files field for that ...
15:38 randomresult should i paste my "working" ts?
15:39 maholtz|WORK delete current=1 - does it work?
15:40 randomresult jupp... means the picture from the current page
15:40 maholtz|WORK i mean, does it work without current=1 ?
15:40 randomresult i could try
15:40 randomresult gimme a sec
15:44 conic Is there someone who offers downloadable files which come from another server in the network? I would be interested in how this is done by you
15:45 typo3fan hi guys
15:46 beli conic: using a href?
15:46 typo3fan does anyone know where do i set "permission" so my user will se the header field when editing content elements?
15:48 conic beli: no, the frontend user may not have direct access to the server where the files come from
15:48 beli conic: be more specific pls :)
15:48 animan hi, how could i translate the Pagebrowser in tt_news LIST?
15:49 randomresult maholtz|WORK: no, it does not work without current
15:51 randomresult maholtz|WORK: but it works with = 10.file.import.current = levelmedia:-1,slide
15:51 randomresult but not the slide
15:51 maholtz|WORK because 'levelmedia:-1,slide' == 1
15:51 conic beli: i have two servers, one with typo3, one with files. Fe-users may not have access to the fileserver, but i want to log in the BE and select the files directly from the fileserver
15:51 maholtz|WORK current is boolean!
15:52 randomresult means?
15:52 randomresult ahhh ...wait
15:53 SmaxTheFrog how can i stop that typo3 switches my conten & to &amp; ?
15:53 SmaxTheFrog in my own extension
15:53 beli conic: if you have full access to both servers you might just mount the remote servers filedirectory to the typo3servers fileadmin directory via nfs or any other network file protokol
15:53 conic beli: sounds like exactly like what i was searching for
15:53 randomresult so how do i write it now
15:54 randomresult current = 1, slide ==1
15:54 randomresult or current = slide == 1
15:54 conic beli: back in a minute, thanks
15:55 beli conic: nfs is the oldstyle way....you may also use samba....but what i would use is coda...
15:56 conic beli: i will ask whether we are currently using one of these in our network
15:56 conic beli: will be the best when i use that one, too
15:56 beli conic: nfs is used in common
15:58 maholtz|WORK does IRRE works with 4.1.x?
15:59 beli maholtz|WORK: guess not
16:01 animan 11anyone knows how to translate Pagebrowser in tt_news LIST? I've tried the ll-XML. but that doesn't seem to be working :S Some sort of TS for that?
16:08 randomresult maholtz|WORK : does not work like this... 10.file.import.current = 1, slide==1
16:08 maholtz|WORK @beli: thanks, but seems to work in 4.1.7 but not every installation
16:08 randomresult i feel like a neebie
16:08 maholtz|WORK @randomresult: it cant!
16:09 randomresult ok
16:09 randomresult sorry
16:09 maholtz|WORK current has datatype boolean
16:09 maholtz|WORK nothing else
16:09 maholtz|WORK no problem:)
16:09 maholtz|WORK i have not much time these days to have an deeper look
16:10 randomresult np
16:10 animan damn, IRC client crashed.. anyone had any idea on that translation problem?
16:11 conic animan: no one wrote yet
16:11 animan ok, thanks :)
16:11 randomresult ... is googling now...
16:12 animan i found some TS, but it doesn't seem to translate that "from.. to.." part, only next and previous
16:17 conic animan: what exactly do you want to translate?
16:18 animan Displaying results 1 to 5 out of 12
16:18 conic animan: until now everything worked with II-XML
16:18 conic animan: ok, one moment
16:19 conic animan: german?
16:19 animan comic: to Latvian
16:21 conic animan: don't you like the translation, or is there non for latvian, or didn't you set it to latvian?
16:22 animan there are no latvian translation by default and client wants to have that translated, so i need to find a way to translate it
16:22 animan it appears with tt_news LIST view
16:24 animan my page is multilingual and all the other translations work, only the Pagebrowser appears without translation
16:25 pmk65 animan: i depends on which pagebrowser you are using for tt_news.
16:26 pmk65 take a look at ttnews/pi/locallang.xml and you'll find the labels for the various pagebrowser texts
16:27 animan i've translated those with llXML, but it doesn't seem to have any effect
16:30 animan i mean, the llXML works fine, but it seems that i'm getting those results from somewhere else
16:31 conic animan: sry i have no internet for 10 minutes, back later
16:31 animan ok :)
16:44 NublaII can I install templavoila on an old 3.8.1 install?
16:45 NublaII the repository says that it depends on typo3 3.9.9-0.0.0... not sure that version even exists...
16:48 pmk65 animan: I think I know what your problem is. Some extensions uses the new translation system, where translations is done on the translation server.
16:49 pmk65 There's translations gets included when you use the language Import of Extensionmanager. And the translations from the typo3conf/l10n/ folder overrides those inside the extension folder.
16:50 pmk65 The best solution, is to do your translations using TypoScript, as these overrides bothe the ones in the ext dir and those in the l10n/ dir.
16:51 animan 8i was thinking of that, but didn't find an example to provide me with code needed to get this work :/
16:52 animan 8i've fond an exaple here: http://www.typo3-jack.net/typo3-english-lists-netfielders-de/9910-typo3-translate-labels-pagebrowser.html
16:53 animan 8but it doesn't show how to translate that "Displaying results .." part
16:53 pmk65 plugin.tt_news._LOCAL_LANG.la.LabelToTranslate = Translated text
16:53 conic animan: back again
16:54 conic are you helped yet?
16:54 pmk65 look in the ttnews/pi/locallang.xml for the labels you need for the pagebrowser
16:55 animan 8oh, will try, thanks :)
16:55 pmk65 animan: the URL you posted, is not for tt_news.
16:57 animan 8yes, i'm planin to replace the tx_commerce with tt_news
16:58 animan 8conic: i think i'm about to get this translated =)
16:59 conic ok...
17:02 animan 8ok, got it working, thanks :)
17:02 conic is it normal that you have to clear the cache before one can see a new entry in tt_news?
17:05 skipjack Hello
17:05 conic hi
17:06 skipjack Is there an easy method to fork an extension?
17:12 skipjack someone an idea? How to fork an Ext. like tt_news / tt_products
17:14 Hennes is tt_products based on tt_news? Or what kind of fork do you want?
17:15 foool anyone know a petition script - easy to gonfig
17:23 animan 8conic: i guess it's normal, since i have to do this too, always clearing the cache after any new tt_news entry
17:49 Idigit can u please help me out using templavoila with Indexed Search Engine
18:19 KC2QBU Howdy
18:19 KC2QBU How is everyone?
18:20 skipjack :)
18:21 KC2QBU Anyone have an install on Ubuntu or any other debian systems?
18:22 conic tep.user.mood = fine
18:23 conic @ KC2QBU
18:23 voidus KC2QBU: me
18:23 KC2QBU hi conic
18:24 KC2QBU Hi voidus
18:25 KC2QBU I'm trying to setup a CMS on my Ubuntu 8.04 server and installed the Typo3 package.
18:26 KC2QBU Where would I find documentation on setting it up? I looked on the website and I really didn't see anything specific on there.
18:27 voidus KC2QBU: i'd recommend to not use version from package
18:27 voidus from deb package, i mean
18:28 KC2QBU I tried installing other packages from source with a lot of difficulty. I saw the package in apt and thought it would be a quick install :)
18:31 KC2QBU The package install is not the right way to go?
18:45 KC2QBU Hi guillom
18:45 guillom hiho
18:46 KC2QBU How's it going?
18:47 guillom finishing to write my PhD thesis, so pretty busy, but good :)
18:47 KC2QBU Yikes that must be a hair puller :)
18:48 guillom hehe
18:49 KC2QBU Pulling my hair here trying to figure out how to get Typo3 setup
18:49 KC2QBU what's your thesis on?
18:55 voidus KC2QBU: yes... the quickest way is download "source+dummy" package from typo3.org and unpack it onto webserver
18:56 KC2QBU voidus: but installing from source would be better?
18:56 conic can someone tell me what acronyms are for?
18:56 voidus KC2QBU: php is always source -) even in deb package -)
18:56 KC2QBU conic: what acronyms?
18:57 conic see this when i go to the list module i can create new acronyms on the current page
18:57 conic never saw this before
18:57 conic above there's the internal notices
18:58 KC2QBU conic: couldn't tell you, haven't got mine setup yet :)
18:58 conic ^^
18:59 KC2QBU voidus: I have the packages installed through aptitude, nw what would be the next step? Is there any docs to walk me through the rest of the setup?
19:00 voidus conic: it's for RTE. you can create acronyms.. so, if you do, your acronyms on the page may have an propmt with full meaning
19:02 conic so i can create an acronym and explain it there, and when i write on this page and use it, there will be a link or something like that?
19:03 voidus KC2QBU: one sec, i'll install package..
19:09 KC2QBU voidus: ok, thanks
19:31 voidus KC2QBU: typo3 package depend on two: typo3-source and typo3-dummy. first is at /usr/share, second in /var/lib. you need to copy contents of /var/lib/typo3-dummy to your webserver and create a symlink to typo3 source
19:33 mcbass can someone please help me with tt_rating extension ?? Basically it shows up, but no stars and if I overwrite the renderObj it does not fill the markers ?
19:34 KC2QBU voidus: yeah I saw the 2. I figured the typo-dummy was a "dummy site" but wasn't sure if I should put those in my webserver.
20:05 KC2QBU voidus: Should I copy all the directories in /var/lib/typo2-dummy as well? There's symlinks in those directories as well.
20:05 voidus KC2QBU: aha, good if so. yes.
20:22 KC2QBU voidus: is there a way to copy symlinks? I've never had to before.
20:23 voidus hm.. just as ordinal files, not?
20:26 KC2QBU voidus: copying everything in the directories (subdir, files, symlinks,etc) from dir a to dir b
20:42 jochke Searching for advice. Have moved typo3 to a new server. I've moved the db and the whole typo3 directory plus typo3 src. Now it says "No template found!" in the frontend and I can't login in the backend. The backend auth is made through macmade_ldap.
20:46 KC2QBU voidus: did it (cp -r -p seemed to work) :)
20:50 KC2QBU voidus: accessed webserver and got a 404 error. redirected to http://w2so.ham-radio-op.net/typo3/install/index.php?mode=123&step=1&password=joh316
20:50 KC2QBU voidus: perhaps permissions not set correct?
20:51 voidus url seem to be right...
20:53 KC2QBU voidus: I noticed that database error flashed quickly when I refreshed the browser.
21:05 KC2QBU no database selected, as it says
21:21 KC2QBU voidus: do I need to create a user and database in mysql?
21:23 voidus KC2QBU: user - yes. for the database - you can create it by hand or with installer if your mysql user have enough rights
21:24 KC2QBU voidus: is that why the installer isn't loading?
21:25 voidus KC2QBU: hm.. not sure. installer should load, but may show errors in some cases
21:30 KC2QBU voidus: yeah it flashes a box that gives me the database error.
21:45 pepper1212 aloha...i have a small problem with user rights in typo3, maybe someone knows help. i have to assign different users and groups to the site elements...but with the integrated access control in typo3, it's only possible to assign one usergroup to the page. does anybody knows a simple way to assign more than one group?
21:47 pepper1212 nobody any ideas?
21:49 pepper1212 liest überhaupt jemand mit?;)
21:59 JohPie pepper1212: only in english please and yes
22:12 KC2QBU voidus: it appears I have an issue with mysql.
22:12 voidus which one?
22:13 KC2QBU voidus: I cannot bring mysql up
22:14 voidus sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start
22:16 KC2QBU voidus: yeah I did that, apparently my.cnf cannot be read, actually it's absent.
22:29 KC2QBU One problem escalades to another. Just my luck.
22:30 KC2QBU voidus: I have to get going. Thanks for all your help! It's greatly appreciated!
22:30 voidus np
22:30 KC2QBU l8tr evry1!
23:32 Phlogi please please vote for typo3 here: http://hackontest.org/
23:33 Phlogi ries: you could have put that in topic actually!
23:34 ries why?
23:34 ddoesburg :-)
23:36 ries ddoesburg: Hey Daniel... alles goed?
23:36 voidus Phlogi: I've voted today -)
23:36 ddoesburg Hoi Ries
23:37 ddoesburg All well over here. And how is it in Equador?
23:37 ries Equador is doing fine... 2 weeks ago I came back from working 2 months with my client.. we had good fun
23:38 ries Currently looking for a other house here...
23:38 ddoesburg Where have you been that 2 months
23:38 ddoesburg A house with a bar?
23:39 ries ddoesburg: House with a bar would be nice :D
23:39 ries ddoesburg: I have been working at GM goodwrench
23:39 mcbass can someone please help me with tt_rating extension ?? Basically it shows up, but no stars and if I overwrite the renderObj it does not fill the markers ?
23:41 ries isn't tt_rating not out-dated??
23:41 ddoesburg ries: are you finished now with the GM job?
23:41 ries ddoesburg: Nope... Looks like that till end of 2009 I will be working with them...
23:41 ries But first let's finish this year :D
23:41 mcbass yes, but the server runs on an old typo and php, so I cant switch to ratings,...
23:42 mcbass but even out-dated, someone must have had this working at some time ?!
23:42 ddoesburg ries: Good!. No CNV last time?
23:42 ries ddoesburg: No CNV...
23:43 Phlogi ries: so that more vote maybe...
23:43 ries I believe that M wanted me to make something in Jan... But that was set back.... never heard since then.. Except that M is making a website on my server... but that is personal
23:43 ddoesburg OK
23:43 ddoesburg Do you deliver good T3 hosting?
23:44 ries For personal projects it works fine....
23:44 ries I don't have panel stuff etc...
23:44 ries But my server purrss fine
23:44 ddoesburg I've a hosting provider, also without a panel
23:45 ddoesburg And I like it
23:45 ries We don't have a special setup or anything... that plan was to create that but never had time to really work on it...
23:45 ries Currently teh server runs XEN so we have ot nicly seperated
23:45 ddoesburg Where have I heard that before?
23:46 ddoesburg :-)
23:46 ries Don't know???
23:46 ries Phlogi: good?
23:48 ddoesburg Hey folks, I go for looking if I have somewhere a bed in my bedroom. It's midnight now. See you later
23:48 ries ddoesburg: bye!
23:49 mcbass so no one can help me with tt_rating... ?
23:51 mcbass ok, i take this as a yes,...
23:51 mcbass how about some help with TSFE:baseUrl ?!
23:51 ries mcbass: Sorry... I never worked with it...
23:52 ries mcbass: you mean config.baseUrl??
23:52 mcbass yes
23:52 ries what about ?
23:52 mcbass i need to put a url together in TS
23:53 mcbass since I run the same site on different domains, I need to set a link, depending on the start domain
23:53 ries baseUrl created <base href="">http://www.rvantwisk.nl/"/> is that what you want??
23:53 mcbass aeh,... no
23:54 mcbass in my typo template I have this :
23:55 mcbass 10 = TEXT
23:55 mcbass 10.wrap = &tipUrl=|
23:55 mcbass 20 = TEXT
23:55 mcbass 20.data = TSFE : baseURL
23:55 mcbass 20.wrap = http://www.elementsense.com|
23:55 mcbass 30 = TEXT
23:55 mcbass 30.data = TSFE : id
23:55 mcbass 30.wrap = /index.php?id=|
23:55 mcbass ...
23:56 mcbass now actually, where you have the www.elementsense.com,... I want TS have this placed automatically
23:56 mcbass unfortunately I have no success here,... since it is empty all the time
23:57 mcbass even if I say [globalString = ENV:HTTP_HOST=www.elementsense.com]
23:57 mcbass config.baseURL = http://www.elementsense.com/
23:57 mcbass [global]
23:57 mcbass its not working
23:57 mcbass whats wrong ?

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