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00:05 uschi dear friends, at some point in my life i activated these toolbars to edit a whole CE in FE editing
00:06 uschi i cannot remember at all where I did that and now I can not get rid of them again
00:06 uschi any tip for me?
00:24 tomyN anyone here?
01:03 tomyN hi again, I am starting from scratch again
01:04 tomyN in 123 mode: Type in your database parameters here: - does it create a database here or not, I cannot find anything in the instructions about this
01:08 tomyN M I alone in here, only with an unclear manual?
01:18 tomyN never mind
01:33 Denyerec Pretty much
01:33 Denyerec as far as I know
01:33 Denyerec and that's not a lot
01:33 Denyerec you have to put in the name of a DB you already created
01:33 Denyerec BUT
01:34 Denyerec this may no longer be the case
01:34 Denyerec in fact I think it will create a blank DB if the name you specify doesn't exist
01:37 tomyN Denyerec: it worked now, I was chewing on this the whole day and I think I missed something
01:37 tomyN I believe in phpMyAdmin I didn't set Password to "Textfield"
01:37 Denyerec Ah
01:37 Denyerec Why would you have to define your own fields?
01:38 tomyN not sure, can you imagine how aggravated I got??
01:38 tomyN the latest 123 mode wizard is not consistent with the manual
01:39 tomyN late in UK, night person huh?
03:34 goclimbing anyone awake?
03:34 goclimbing i'm looking for stats on how much traffic t3 can handle
03:34 goclimbing example sites, etc...
04:20 goclimbing anyone catch my question from 30 minutes ago?
04:35 Denyerec was probably having another random holyshit it's 0340hrs
04:35 Denyerec I shouldhave been in bed 4 hours ago
04:35 Denyerec What's up nature?
04:35 Denyerec goclimbing / whatver :)
04:46 goclimbing it's nature
04:46 goclimbing oh
04:46 goclimbing yeah
04:46 goclimbing duh
04:46 goclimbing well i am wondering about how much load/traffic a t3 site can handle and if there are stats on that
04:49 Denyerec there's an article on the main website about improving perfomance
04:49 Denyerec it was features not long ago.
04:49 Denyerec the upshot of it was, I think, that with sensible caching and server configuration you shouldn't have to worry too much
04:49 Denyerec but I'm not much of an authority on it
04:50 Denyerec http://buzz.typo3.org/people/patrick/article/optimizing-typo3-backend-responsiveness/
04:51 Denyerec http://typo3.org/development/articles/testing-and-tuning-typo3-performance/
04:51 Denyerec that should be enough reading for you
04:51 Denyerec I need to sleep :/
04:51 Denyerec 4am... DOH
04:55 goclimbing i need to be able to tell a client that might get a million or 12 million or 14 billion unique visitors a month that we have proof t3 can handle that
04:55 goclimbing NUMBERS!
04:55 goclimbing and i need to tell them that because that's what they get
04:56 goclimbing coz dey be huge and snizzle
06:07 d|g hi all
07:23 FloLeBlanc hi all
07:25 just2b hi FloLeBlanc
07:25 FloLeBlanc hi j2b, how are you?
07:27 just2b fine ;) doing no typo3 ;)
07:28 FloLeBlanc hehe
07:29 just2b working with magento now
07:29 FloLeBlanc what is magento based on?
07:30 just2b zend
07:31 FloLeBlanc it the code open source and only the support does cost or is there a fee?
07:32 just2b no fee
07:32 FloLeBlanc nice.. thx for the infos
07:34 just2b and so much fun.. but work too ;)
07:35 FloLeBlanc :), what are you working on?
07:36 just2b a big shop
08:08 FloLeBlanc hi void
08:09 FloLeBlanc does anyone happen to know how to integrate http://validator.w3.org/feed/docs/warning/MissingAtomSelfLink.html in my tt_news rss feed without changing the source?
08:10 FloLeBlanc (or hardcoding the link in the template)
09:36 m4rtijn hi all
09:39 just2b oh man lol.. never say TYPO3 is hard to learn :D
09:41 fred^^ its not hard to learn once you grasp how it works. say, for example, how you configure things with TS
09:43 xsebi mornin all : )
09:50 emiles fred^^: the learning curve is kind of steep.
09:51 m4rtijn I know some ppl who just gave up the moment they saw some TS
09:51 fred^^ depends on your technical knowledge, but i understand what you are saying. i got a broad technical understanding, so there is alot of concepts within typo3 that i already knew about and got somewhat
09:51 m4rtijn .. but I never thought highly of those :)
09:52 elbart hi
09:52 fred^^ for someone who lacks that, it probaly is more steep than it were for me
09:52 just2b the API is really easy compared to others
09:52 fred^^ and im still only a novice
09:53 fred^^ next up i need to start with some easy extension programming
09:53 fred^^ wish i knew how to modify the list view
09:56 Recnelis Hey guys, in my extension I redirect the user when he changes a <select> - The user should be redirected to the same page.. but pi_linkToPage only shows the link from index.php?yadayada - How do I get my page url via Typo3 php
10:01 blaat hmm
10:01 blaat :)
10:05 Recnelis Hehe perhaps to ask more simple - How do I get my page url via php? :)
10:05 fred^ I wonder what would be the correct semantic way of marking up a video list. It would contain a title (with an link), a date and an description. Right now I have an div box for each item, an h4 element (wrapped in A element) and a P element for the description.
10:06 just2b http://www.typo3-unleashed.net/typo3apidocs/typo3api_4.2.0/html/d3/d3d/classt3lib__div.html#b91fe9ff41b38cb8a672ea768ca58429
10:06 just2b frd sounds ok
10:06 blaat fred^ .. I guess <ul> is best for listing
10:07 fred^ seems somewhat bloated, just2b
10:07 fred^ yeah, would think so, blaat
10:07 fred^ im not entirely sure yet, though
10:08 blaat somehow my nick doesnt time-out.. grmbl
10:08 fred^ if you registered it with nickserv you can ghost it. thats fun
10:09 m4rtijn_ i did register it..
10:09 fred^ /ns ghost m4rtijn password
10:10 fred^ oh well, next time
10:10 m4rtijn_ heh.. darn
10:10 fred^ do any of you use SVN in your workflow?
10:12 Recnelis I've got a little question: <input id="'.$this->prefixId.'_autofill" name="'.$this->prefixId.'_autofill" type="hidden" value="0" /> <- Should I be able to get this value with -> $this->piVars['_autofill']; ?
10:39 Horttcore|DE hi everyone
10:39 Horttcore|DE which gallery extension works with Typo3 4.2.1
10:40 just2b every one
10:40 Horttcore|DE any good one
10:40 Horttcore|DE nothing to special
10:40 just2b depends what you need
10:40 just2b chgallery
10:40 Horttcore|DE a simple one
10:40 Horttcore|DE no comments etc
10:40 Horttcore|DE just easy upload and some categories
10:41 Horttcore|DE caption
10:41 just2b ok no categories there
10:41 just2b but simple and fast ;)
10:42 Horttcore|DE oh that looks nice
10:43 Horttcore|DE any workaround to get sth like categories to work?
10:43 Horttcore|DE with categories I mean sth like albums etc
10:43 just2b use 1 album = 1 folder and you are done
10:43 Horttcore|DE thx dude
10:43 Horttcore|DE Will try that one
10:43 Horttcore|DE Typo3 4.2.1 looks much better then the stuff before
10:44 just2b and please rate the ext if you use it ^^
10:46 Horttcore|DE yea can't find the dl link on that page :P
10:47 Horttcore|DE isnt in the repo or?
10:47 Horttcore|DE at least the ext. manager can't find it
10:49 just2b which page
10:49 just2b it is in the ter
10:51 Horttcore|DE http://www.rggooglemap.com/dev/chgallery.html
10:53 Horttcore|DE mmh got it from the typo3 site
10:53 just2b http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/?tx_terfe_pi1%5Bview%5D=search&no_cache=1&tx_terfe_pi1%5Bsword%5D=chgallery
10:53 just2b there is no link at my website
10:55 Horttcore|DE ah so u r the author :)
10:55 just2b jep
10:55 Horttcore|DE cool
10:56 Horttcore|DE I might have to get in touch with you
10:56 just2b ;)
10:56 Horttcore|DE I'm really new to typo3
10:56 Horttcore|DE I'm more the WordPress Developer :-)
10:56 Horttcore|DE is sooo different
10:56 m4rtijn just2b is also a newbie
10:56 m4rtijn :)
10:56 Horttcore|DE *its
10:56 just2b yeah that is why i quit typo3
10:57 m4rtijn u quit?
10:57 m4rtijn when?
10:57 just2b 3 weeks ago
10:57 soari hi
10:57 m4rtijn hi soari
10:57 m4rtijn and why just2b ?
10:58 Horttcore|DE shit system ;)
10:58 soari m4rtijn, do youknow a good source for typo3 advertisements?
10:58 just2b no time
11:38 Recnelis With piVars do I have to use [] around the name of a input field in order to get it via piVars? I can't use -> $my_var = $this->piVars['_autofill']; ?
11:51 m4rtijn hmm, could it be that real_url somehow ignores ext. templates ? or handles them differently?
11:54 Horttcore|DE mmh got a strange problem with tt_news
11:55 Horttcore|DE there are no titles in the the List tree :-F
11:55 m4rtijn maybe u messed up the template?
12:07 inf1nitylX hi evry one
12:10 m4rtijn hi
12:11 Recnelis How do I make a linebreak in my locallang.xml?
12:11 inf1nitylX did some one work with tt_products???
12:12 m4rtijn yes, unlucky enough
12:12 m4rtijn Recnelis \n ?
12:12 Recnelis Doesn't work.. :/
12:12 m4rtijn or maybe the keycode from "enter"
12:12 Recnelis Tried that.. and <br />
12:13 m4rtijn smth like &#233;
12:13 m4rtijn but i dont know the keycode
12:13 Recnelis &lt;br&gt;
12:13 Recnelis But that doesn't work either
12:14 inf1nitylX how can i view a list of category?? (using tt_products exty)
12:14 m4rtijn try &#023;
12:14 Recnelis Nope...
12:15 m4rtijn and &#23;
12:16 Recnelis Nope..
12:20 m4rtijn &#xA;
12:20 m4rtijn or &#xD;
12:22 m4rtijn did it work?
12:23 m4rtijn now try a smili face: ?
12:28 m4rtijn Recnelis?>
12:31 m4rtijn hrmpf
12:33 pmk65 Recnelis: Install the plugin "lfeditor". Then you can modify your locallang and insert linebreaks HTML etc.
12:34 m4rtijn but it was fun guessing wildly
12:34 m4rtijn :)
12:35 pmk65 my guess would then be &lt;br&gt;
12:36 m4rtijn yep.. but he said he tried that
12:41 Recnelis Jup.. already tried that...
12:42 Recnelis Ah.. thx for the ext heads up pmk65
12:43 m4rtijn wait!
12:43 m4rtijn did u try &#xA; ?
12:43 m4rtijn :p
12:50 FloLeBlanc can someone tell me how I do prevent caching of images in my backend extension?
12:57 Denyerec just2b ?
13:07 FloLeBlanc void: do you happen to know how to disable caching for my backend extension? (for the FE I can set no_cache in the TS but for the backend? PageTS perhaps?)
13:08 FloLeBlanc nvm
13:11 Recnelis How do I debug my sql query?
13:12 FloLeBlanc Recnelis: for testing purposes you can enable sql_debug in the install tool
13:13 Recnelis Well.. it's a live site.. :/
13:16 Recnelis But I found the error
13:23 ct529 hi everybody
13:23 FloLeBlanc hi ct
13:23 xsebi hello
13:28 FloLeBlanc hmm I have to raise the question again: can someone tell me how to prevent backend extension images (I display charts) from beeing cached? I thought user_int is the way to go but couldn't quite grasp how this would help me
13:30 xsebi floleblanc : i think u can look it up in the coding guidelines
13:30 FloLeBlanc thank you xsebi I'll have a look
13:39 ct529 I have created a "marker" in templavoila: the editing type is TO path. Let's say it called lib.mywhatever. I would like to put some html in it by using typoscript. How does it work? is it lib.mywhatever.DATA = <div>blah</div>?
13:41 xsebi ct529 : lib.mywhatever = COA lib.mywhatever { 5 = TEXT etc ... : )
13:41 xsebi would be a way
13:43 FloLeBlanc xsebi: could only find how to get a temporary filename for an image in the coding guidelines :(
13:46 xsebi floleblanc : set in Install tool : $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['EXT']['extCache'] = 0
13:46 xsebi will supress tmp files from being created then
13:46 ct529 xsebi: I do not understand .... do you mean that then you put 5 = <div>test</div>
13:46 ct529 xsebi: ?
13:47 FloLeBlanc xsebi: as far as I know this will disable all caching for all extensions I have
13:47 xsebi floleblanc : yes
13:48 FloLeBlanc xsebi: I don't want that :) , I only want to have specific images from my extension not cached
13:48 ct529 xsebi: why do you need to set COA .... I thought you could simply send it into the object
13:49 xsebi floleblanc : i dont know how your ext is build , ct529: look in tsref : )
13:49 xsebi but im sure u will find it in the doc
13:50 FloLeBlanc xsebi: well If you can recommend a manual for that topic I'll gladly read it, I thought what I want to do is very basic (I have a chart file that gets overwritten depending on what statistics you want to have charted, the chart is however cached onload due to the same filename)
13:51 FloLeBlanc hmm come to think about it this is a stupid idea however *scratches head* if 2 be users access the files at the same time hehe
13:54 ct529 xsebi: I am looking in tsref, but frankly cannot find an answer
13:55 xsebi floleblanc : i think theres always a msg when 2 admins work on the same thing at once , like : " admin 1 has started working on this data 1 min ago ..."
13:56 FloLeBlanc xsebi: hmm right, perhaps I think I need to change that nonetheless, thanks for pointing me the direction
14:01 ct529 xsebi: I do not understand why I cannot use lib.mywhatever = HTML, lib.mywhatever.value = <div>test</div>, do i need to declare it is a COA?
14:04 xsebi ct529 : theres lots of ways to do that
14:04 xsebi u dont need a coa
14:05 xsebi just better for handling ,.. me thinks
14:07 ct529 xsebi: I have followed what you said + tsref, but does not work. could you please look at http://phpfi.com/328904?
14:11 xsebi ct529 : i dont know how to handle markers with TV , i dont use it
14:12 xsebi but probably u didnt copy the lib to the mrker or smthg
14:18 FloLeBlanc can someone point me to the reference where I find all the basic vars of T3 I can use in my extension? (for example baseurl, temp image dir, etc.)
14:24 pmk65 FloLeBlanc: how about making the filename of your image, based on the microtime(), that way it will get a different name each time, and won't be cached..
14:25 FloLeBlanc pmk65: I already found the very good t3lib_div::tempnam() function, but now I have to find out how I can get the typo3temp dir from the configuration :) (to result in http://www.myurl.com/typo3temp/randomfilenimeigot.png)
14:26 FloLeBlanc tempnam returns the server url (/varX/html/typo3/etc), which I can't use for the img="" tag
14:27 pmk65 FloLeBlanc: I had the same problem, and to fix that , simply do some preg_replace on the path, and make it into a FE usabel path
14:28 pmk65 If you go into the Install tool, you can get a list of all the TYPO3/Server related variables.
14:31 FloLeBlanc hmm ok thx
14:36 FloLeBlanc I have to be pretty stupid not finding something as simple as the base url as php var in the doc's im browsing :)
14:40 pmk65 FloLeBlanc: Did you look in the Install Tool? under "phpinfo()"
14:40 FloLeBlanc the phpinfo doesn't use the t3 vars , I just want to access the baseURL I set in my template
14:40 pmk65 FloLeBlanc: Is it a FE or BE plugin?
14:40 FloLeBlanc BE
14:42 pmk65 then you can't use baseURL, as that is ony available for FE. (Everything with config options set in the Typoscript Setup field , is for FE. And those set in TSConfig is available in BE.
14:43 FloLeBlanc oh...
14:43 FloLeBlanc thank you
14:43 FloLeBlanc well... what CAN I use :)
14:44 pmk65 FloLeBlanc: look at the phpinfo() from the Install Tool, and find one that has a path that matches the one you got on your image. Then find one that has a path like the one you want, and use those 2 to create a new path
14:44 m4rtijn just hardcode the absolute path everywhere
14:44 FloLeBlanc m4rtijn: :-P
14:46 FloLeBlanc ah.. thank you pmk65
14:46 FloLeBlanc should have listened in advance, sorry
14:47 pmk65 FloLeBlanc: np. Im trying to see if I can find one of my plugins, where I replace the path.
14:47 FloLeBlanc pmk65 thank you, no problem now
14:52 FloLeBlanc whew.. finally gets displayed.. thank you pmk65
14:53 m4rtijn I spend like 2 hours trying to fix an extension.. until I noticed I just forgot to insert an "s" somewhere..
14:53 m4rtijn programming languages are so unforgiving.. grr ;)
14:53 pmk65 ok. I couldn't find the plugin with my replace code, either.
14:54 gliukas anybody there?
14:54 m4rtijn im defenetly not here
14:54 FloLeBlanc pmk65 or xsebi: the coding guidelines instruct me to use t3lib_div::unlink_tempfile() on the random file, but how should I include that in my extension? I can't unlink the file in the branch the image gets displayed, or the user won't see the image at all :)
14:54 gliukas I just got a problem while installing TYPO3
14:54 gliukas ans can not find right sollution
14:55 gliukas trying to put latest stable version on SUSE
14:55 gliukas getting some strange behaviour
14:55 gliukas seems like symlinks are not working online
14:55 gliukas do I need to edit .htaccess?
14:55 pmk65 FloLeBlanc: No clue, but if it works like PHP image creation, then you can unlink it after you have added it to the content var.
14:56 m4rtijn gliukas - not for symlinks
14:56 gliukas yes yes I understand
14:56 gliukas looking for someone with some experience
14:57 gliukas or guide, because this one http://blog.fekw.de/2008/05/15/howto-to-install-typo3-on-suse-102-32bit-for-multiple-domains/2/ have not hellped
14:57 pmk65 FloLeBlanc: But since your plugin is for BE, then you really doesn't need any of this, as the BE is NOT cached. (But the images could be cached in the browser, which a random imagename will fix)
14:57 gliukas can not get access to symlinked directories
14:59 pmk65 gliukas: there's a TYPO3 newsgroup for Install trouble. Usually theres a lot of server experts reading that one.
15:01 pmk65 gliukas: im not one of those, as when it comes to server setup, Im know less than a newbie :D
15:01 m4rtijn my symlinks worked like a charm right from the start.. So i dunno either
15:01 m4rtijn its def. a server setup thing.. not typo3 related
15:04 randomresult hello everybody
15:05 randomresult i have a problem with the kickstarter...
15:05 randomresult i deleted a table in the kickstarter and now i get the following message:
15:05 FloLeBlanc pmk65: well if I assign random filenames and they get created in the typo3temp folder, they will stay there until I unlink them manually won't they?
15:06 randomresult "/html/typo3conf/ext/testext/icon_tx_kscfussballschule_einverstaendnis.gif" MD5 was different from the original files MD5 - so the file is corrupted!
15:06 randomresult and everytime i write the plugin, this file (the gif) is produced again
15:07 randomresult anyone an idea to solve this prob
15:08 pmk65 randomresult: Is it a homemade ext?
15:08 randomresult yes it is
15:08 randomresult i do not need this table no more
15:08 randomresult so i deleted it
15:09 pmk65 Then try looking at ext_tables.php and ext_localconf.php and see if theres any old references to the tabel (or the icon)
15:09 randomresult ok i will
15:09 pmk65 I recall having had the same problem once, and it was due to some config stuff not getting deleted when you delete the table.
15:10 randomresult ok... ill check
15:10 randomresult pmk65 nothing left in ext_tables odr ext_localconf
15:11 pmk65 FloLeBlanc: if you can't delete the temp image asfter displaying, you can always create a small CLI script, that once a week cleans up your typo3temp/yourExt/ folder.
15:12 pmk65 randomresult: Is the icon for the deleted table, still in the extension dir? If yes, delete it.
15:12 randomresult i did... but everytime i write the ext... it is there again
15:12 m4rtijn does anybody know if realurl somehow handles extension templates differently? I have some ext. templates which do not work anymore I think it stopped since I installed realurl
15:14 pmk65 ok. now I know what your problem is. In the "doc" folder of your ext, is the XML file that the kickstarter uses. I think it's in there you got some old code from before you deleted the tabel. Try editing those (if they are in an editable format)
15:14 randomresult i will
15:16 pmk65 m4rtijn: no it handles all templates identical, but sometimes you can get problems on pages that contains plugins that sets various GET vars. Without RealURL, all GET vars is prefixed with a & char, but when using realURL, the 1st GET var must be prefixed with a ? not a &.
15:17 pmk65 The reason for this, is that witout RealURL, TYPO3 supplies the 1st GET var as ?id=xx
15:17 m4rtijn I just have a marker in my template calles KONTAKT .. in my extension template I overwrite the value from the root template
15:18 m4rtijn .. strange enough.. it used to work.. and since realurl it does not
15:19 m4rtijn but if it works the same.. problem must be somewhere else..
15:19 pmk65 The quick soultion, is just to disable RealURL on those pages where you have problems. The best solution is to setup a RealURL rule, to translate the GET vars of your ext, into a meaningful path, similar to what tt_news does.
15:21 m4rtijn I had some problem on another site as well though.. I had to include the tt_news styled content again in my subpages for it to look good.. although i already had them included in my root template
15:21 Denyerec hey pmk
15:21 Denyerec hey martin
15:21 pmk65 Hi Matt
15:21 Denyerec I'd feel bad if you were actually my mum...
15:22 Denyerec but I'm pretty confident she doesn't use IRC, much less code in Typo3...
15:22 pmk65 lol :)
15:22 Denyerec :)
15:22 m4rtijn hi deny
15:22 m4rtijn yay.. smbdy likes me
15:22 Denyerec You get the feeling that Typo3 doesn't eh?
15:26 m4rtijn im good with typo3.. its like a healthy relationship.. some days I could kick its ass.. some days kiss it
15:27 m4rtijn maybe I should put the install version on an USB stick and take it on a date
15:30 randomresult ok... i edited all the files in the doc... but again ... the image is produced
15:35 Denyerec hehe
15:35 Denyerec wouldn't want to see it flush its caches during dinner martin ;)
15:35 randomresult now i created the table again... and the error is gone...
15:35 randomresult so how to delete a table without getting this error
15:36 randomresult in the kickstarter
15:37 m4rtijn I'll take a breakk .. bbl
15:37 pmk65 randomresult: look in the "doc" folder, and remove all references to the tabel
15:54 blaat m
17:01 m4rtijn pffffff... its so hot
17:02 ckoehler that hansel
17:02 ckoehler he is so hot right now!
18:09 climb513 denyer?
18:09 Denyerec lo
18:10 climb513 hey... nature here
18:10 climb513 heh
18:11 goclimbing quick question for you ... i hope it's quick
18:11 goclimbing it's in regards to tt_news
18:13 Denyerec Shoot
18:13 goclimbing ok... so it's in regards to the template tab
18:13 goclimbing for the news content container
18:13 goclimbing in my other installs
18:13 Denyerec keep shooting
18:14 goclimbing blam blam
18:14 goclimbing in my other installs i get a field in the flexform called "Template File"
18:14 goclimbing but in the site i'm currently working with
18:14 goclimbing the filed is called ....
18:14 goclimbing Template file reference
18:15 goclimbing which comes prepopluated with the path to the default file
18:15 goclimbing same versions of tt_news so I'm guess it must be a config somewhere?
18:15 goclimbing not including a static ?
18:16 goclimbing any idea as to why the difference?
18:17 Denyerec hmm
18:18 Denyerec same version of tt_news, and typo3?
18:19 goclimbing hmmm
18:20 goclimbing actually it appears to not be either
18:20 goclimbing heh
18:20 goclimbing 2.5.0 vs 2.5.2 for tt_news
18:26 climb513 geeezus
18:35 climb513 ok
18:35 Denyerec nature
18:35 climb513 it's the tt_news version
18:35 Denyerec tt_news has always had this annoying thing where you have to delete and re-add the template reference if you change the template
18:35 climb513 right
18:35 Denyerec I wonder if they've fixed that issue in the latest release
18:35 Denyerec and thus saw fit to change the fieldname
18:36 climb513 right
18:36 Denyerec to more accurately reflect what it's doing
18:36 climb513 i would just go in and find out where they stored the copiedfiles
18:36 climb513 instead of doing the annoying delete/add
18:36 climb513 so that's good to know
18:37 climb513 what sucks though
18:37 climb513 is it prepopulates the path to the file
18:37 climb513 so when you over ride it with a TS config
18:37 climb513 you have to go in and delete that file path
18:38 climb513 oh well
18:38 climb513 just another annoyance :)
18:39 climb513 ok so now back to last nights question
18:39 climb513 i wasn't looking for a way to optimize t3
18:39 climb513 i'm looking for traffic stats for high end t3 sites
18:40 Denyerec ah
18:40 climb513 like... what's the highest "used" t3 site - how many unique visitors, page impressions, etc.
18:40 Denyerec I'm afraid I can't help you there
18:40 Denyerec Interesting thought though
18:40 Denyerec ries would be your man
18:40 Denyerec I think
18:40 Denyerec but he's not doing typo3 anymore
18:41 climb513 you'd think someone would compile that apray
18:41 Denyerec he's busy coding the solution to world hunger in Java or AIR
18:41 climb513 feed the would through Java
18:41 climb513 interesting approach
18:41 climb513 myself... i'd be growing rice
18:41 Denyerec I guess it'd work on any platform.
18:41 Denyerec In theory.
18:42 Denyerec I'd be growing australian short wheat.
18:42 Denyerec Uses a shitload less water
18:42 climb513 haha
18:42 Denyerec :)
18:42 climb513 Java uses no water
18:42 climb513 so i guess that'd make sense
18:42 Denyerec thats what YOU think
18:42 Denyerec ;)
18:42 Denyerec Some people think the best approach to JAVA is to use a riot hose.
18:42 climb513 lol
19:07 chefan java oO ...
19:07 chefan java sucks...
19:07 chefan nd the riot hose idea has it's appeal
19:21 Vieras How do I make 'Visual menu separator's visible in a TMENU? (would like to have a separator between two menu blocks while keeping size of both blocks dynamic)
19:30 dark0n3 ahh.. need to enable SPC .. silly google found nothing related so had to browse through the ref documentation :\
19:34 Awillys anyone around using indexed_search?
19:57 JohKa hey guys can you tell me whether there is a german Typo3 channel?
19:58 Phlogi there is not
19:58 JohKa ok
19:58 Phlogi IMHO
19:59 ckoehler germans are stupid
19:59 JohKa oh no they are not
20:02 ckoehler JohKa: why do you say that?
20:03 ckoehler you're biased, aren't you?
20:04 JohKa that can be possible
20:06 ckoehler most certainly
20:06 ckoehler i am just teasing
20:06 ckoehler being german myself and all that
20:18 maholtz @johka: you do not need an german channel
20:23 Recnelis maholtz: He does if his english stinks as much as 75% of germans ;)
20:24 Recnelis Bah.. perhaps I should learn how to spell before trying to trash a country's language skills :s
20:24 maholtz yep, but not in _this_ channel :p
20:24 Recnelis Well.. I'm off and I still love germans ;)
20:25 Recnelis Except when they dub hotties in movies - It's just not the same sexy voices :/
20:27 Awillys Recnelis: roflol
20:28 HelioShelle hi
20:28 maholtz hi
20:28 Awillys hi
20:29 ckoehler hi
20:29 maholtz ups bye:)
20:44 nomatter001 hi
20:45 nomatter001 when i have a dropdown-menu where all 2. level menu-itemes are already renderd in the <li> of the 1. level menu-items
20:45 nomatter001 how can i get the 2. level items of the current active 1. level menu item in ts for generating a 2. menu
20:46 nomatter001 i always need the sub-items of my active 1st level item for this second menu
20:49 nomatter001 anybody an solution for me?
20:51 Denyerec EH?
20:51 Denyerec I don't think I follow your description
20:51 Denyerec can you post your current HTML and your desired HTML output as an example ?
20:51 nomatter001 Denyerec: yes w8
20:52 Denyerec make sure you pastecode it
20:52 Denyerec www.pastie.org
20:54 nomatter001 Denyerec: i think the ts will help you more
20:54 nomatter001 Denyerec http://pastebin.com/d1d7b0e4a
20:55 nomatter001 Denyerec: with that code i generate a dropdown menu
20:55 nomatter001 Denyerec: and what i want to do is to generate a second HMENU with the same elements as i get in that ts in 2
20:56 nomatter001 Denyerec: but only them of the actual active level 1 element
20:58 Denyerec No, for real
20:58 Denyerec the current and target HTML is the most help
20:58 Denyerec hence why I asked for it :)
20:58 Denyerec I can't visualise the TS unless I can see the HTML you're aiming for.
21:00 nomatter001 Denyerec: http://pastebin.com/d3583e9e9
21:00 nomatter001 thats the actual code
21:01 nomatter001 it should be as it is with the change that in left-navi-border i want to have a second menu
21:01 nomatter001 with the points i mentiont before
21:01 nomatter001 just a normal list
21:02 nomatter001 do you understand which elements i want to have in that menu?
21:06 Denyerec NOt the faintest
21:06 Denyerec that's a random block of unformatted HTML with loads of excess crap in it
21:06 nomatter001 Denyerec: i said to you that the html won't help you
21:06 nomatter001 Denyerec: my problem is, that i want to have a second menu
21:07 Denyerec If you write out, by hand, the HTML you want in your ideal menu, so it's formatted so I can read it, I can help you.
21:07 Denyerec but I cannot wrap my head around abstract concepts and snippets of TS
21:07 Denyerec I'm not good enough to do that.
21:07 nomatter001 Denyerec: the problem isn't the html, i can write the wrap, my problem is, that i doesn't get the correct elements
21:07 Denyerec So
21:07 Denyerec instead of a nested menu
21:07 Denyerec you want your 2nd level in a separate menu?
21:08 Denyerec is that what you are aiming for?
21:08 nomatter001 i want to have a nested menu and a seperate menu
21:09 nomatter001 the nested menu works correct
21:09 Denyerec so you want a normal nested menu
21:09 Denyerec then someplace else, you want that nested menu on its own?
21:09 nomatter001 yes exactly
21:09 nomatter001 the normal menu is a dropdown menu
21:09 Denyerec 1 sec
21:09 nomatter001 with all levels displayed
21:09 nomatter001 and on another place i want just the now corresponding 2nd level items
21:10 Denyerec http://www.pastie.org/227309
21:10 Denyerec try that
21:10 Denyerec that will build your little 2nd menu
21:11 Denyerec obviously you will have to tweak the wraps
21:11 nomatter001 yea thx i'll try
21:11 Denyerec the trick is to omit the UID for the directory mode so it uses the current one
21:13 nomatter001 wow nice that was exactly what i needed
21:13 nomatter001 thx i have never used directories and stuff like that
21:14 nomatter001 something i have to look into as soon as possible
21:14 nomatter001 thx a lot Denyerec
21:14 Denyerec np :)
21:19 nomatter001 Denyerec: ok 1 problem is there
21:20 Denyerec there always is
21:20 Denyerec ;)
21:20 nomatter001 when i then select e element from the 2nd level i get no menu (or a menu of the 3rd level)
21:20 nomatter001 but there should always be the menu of the 2nd level
21:20 nomatter001 is that possible?
21:20 Denyerec Hmm
21:20 Denyerec that TS shows you a menu of the children
21:20 Denyerec so do you want the 2nd level items to show you their siblings, or their children?
21:20 nomatter001 yes i see
21:21 nomatter001 1st level should show the siblings
21:21 nomatter001 o sry
21:21 nomatter001 1st level should show children
21:21 nomatter001 2nd level should show siblings
21:21 Denyerec i think you'll have to play around with some conditionals
21:22 Denyerec and use that to set the entrylevel on the special menu
21:22 Denyerec (Set it to 0 to show siblings, 1 for children)
21:22 Denyerec (I think)
21:23 nomatter001 ok thx i'll try
21:24 nomatter001 ok as i can see there is no change of the behavior when i change entryLevel
21:24 nomatter001 or do i have to delete the COA
21:27 nomatter001 ?
21:28 Denyerec Look up the behaviour of directory in the TSREF
21:28 Denyerec as it may help you understand the issue
21:28 nomatter001 Denyerec: ok thx a lot
21:51 Awillys anyone around using indexed_search?

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