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08:06 FloLeBlanc hi all
09:15 s-andersen Anyone here who runs php with mod_fcgid as described here: http://typo3.org/development/articles/using-php-with-mod-fcgid
09:39 Recnelis Can a single content element from a extension be non-cached?
09:39 Recnelis And morning all :)
09:41 DenTop Hey chaps
09:41 DenTop <-- denyerec
09:41 maholtz|WORK @Recnelis: yep, you have to create an non-cached element in your extension
09:42 maholtz|WORK @dentop: why you do not have called yourself denyerec?
09:42 DenTop Laptop here
09:42 DenTop Denyerec is my home machinewhich is still turned on and connected
09:42 DenTop and I wouldn't want to pss that off ;)
09:44 maholtz|WORK understand:)
09:45 Deet1 Hi this morning when I go into typo3 admin area I get error messages like everywhere
09:45 Deet1 they are along the lines of Warning mysql_free_result supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in class.t3lib_db.php on line 835
09:45 Deet1 googling I just find other pages that have this same error
09:46 DenTop Deet
09:46 DenTop I know the answer to this one...
09:47 DenTop Your ejust going to have to wait while I rememeber it.
09:47 DenTop It's usually because the database hasn't been correctly initialised
09:47 DenTop And I think that you have to run the DB Check / Compare from the Install Tool to sort it out
09:48 Recnelis maholtz|WORK: Got any guide how to do that? It's only one part of it which has to be non-cached
09:49 Deet1 I see
09:49 maholtz|WORK dimtry did that i think
09:49 Deet1 I found this http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=99 but I wasn't able to repair the table
10:01 m4rtijn_ hi all
10:07 animan hi. can someone help me with this lightbox issue i had? - http://phpfi.com/329793
10:32 animan anyone?
10:57 FloLeBlanc animan: what do you want to output with the rel parameter? the links TO a specific page? or ALL links
10:58 FloLeBlanc animan: furthermore: isn't the lightbox extension designed for images and not for pages?
11:11 kaktuspalme hi all
11:12 kaktuspalme i want that typo3 makes around every element a seperate div, how can i do that?
11:16 maholtz|WORK tt_content.stdWrap
11:16 maholtz|WORK look in page-Browser
11:18 kaktuspalme thx :)
11:44 mosez lol, my typo3 sucks in ff3...
11:44 HardPhuck guys anyone using modern skin css with skin_grey_2?
11:44 mosez if i klick on page or something like this i'm getting the pagetree and the page content, but not the navigation
11:45 HardPhuck cant see the main page in page module
11:45 rodi mosez: wich TYPO3 version do you use?
11:45 mosez TYPO3 4.1.5
11:46 rodi mosez: it is a known bug. upgrade to 4.1.7 and you'll be fine
11:46 mikhas the FF3-fix is no in Typo3 4.1.7?
11:47 mosez how did i upgrade? overwrite existing files with a new package?
11:47 mikhas rodi: hmm. I did that (upgraded to 4.1.7) on a site but didn't help. skin_grey2 needs to be updated as well?
11:49 m4rtijn mosez : download typo3 4.1.7 source and overwrite /typo3 and /t3lib
11:57 mikhas tried upgrading both typo3 and skin_grey2. still trouble in FF3 as far as I can see.
11:58 mikhas typo3 4.1.7 and skin_grey 3.0.4
11:58 mikhas grey2*
12:01 rodi mosez: depends on the kind of setup you are running, if you host your site on a linux based system using symlinks just download the new sources and change the main symlink, otherwise overwrite the sources as m4rtijn proposed
12:02 rodi mikhas: maybe this is a problem with the skin_grey extension, if it is the recent version, you could check the bugtracker or try to contact the author of the extension
12:03 HardPhuck i can't see the content area of backend with skin_grey_2??
12:06 m4rtijn just uninstall the grey skin
12:09 HardPhuck but i want it
12:09 m4rtijn then dont use ff3
12:09 rodi lol
12:09 m4rtijn so many choises
12:10 m4rtijn or.. install 4.2.1 maybe u get lucky there
12:10 m4rtijn but just because of some skin issues ..
12:17 mosez can i update directly from 4.1.5 to 4.2.1?
12:17 mosez or have i got to use 4.1.7?
12:19 m4rtijn you can do it directly to 4.2.1
12:19 mosez ok
12:19 m4rtijn i didnt do it yet though.. dunno if you can get into trouble :)
12:19 m4rtijn if you just need a stable/secure system.. id recommend using 4.1.7
12:20 m4rtijn if u upgrade to 4.2.1 you have to check the installation in the install tool
12:20 m4rtijn Compare db, update localconf etc.
12:20 mosez so i will use 4.1.7 i think
12:21 m4rtijn easiest
12:23 m4rtijn can anyone recommend some nice gallery - fully modifiable - and easy to use? apart from smoothgal?
12:24 Ruudi hello
12:24 Ruudi anyone knows is it possible to set link parameters for a menu item but not all of them just one page? possible to configure in TSConfig field maybe?
12:25 Ruudi something like... page.10.typolink.ATagParams.dataWrap = rel="lightbox" ?
12:26 mosez ruudi: searching for a solution too =)
12:28 Ruudi mosez hm yes would be a handy feature wouldn't it and i hope it can be done but no idea...external url got only target settings avileble so no change there
12:40 Ruudi maybe it's possible to use exeption in menu TS like IF ID = n then use different a tag options
12:44 m4rtijn if it always has he same position.. u could use optionsplit..
12:45 m4rtijn but.. not a nice solution :p
12:45 s-andersen Ruudi: you have 1 link in a HMENU that you want to add rel="lightbox"?
12:45 Ruudi yes that's right s-andersen
12:45 s-andersen Let me see if I can dig something up
12:49 mosez i begin to hate typoscript :(
12:50 mosez cant i use a COA object for HMENU wrap?
12:50 mosez hum, i think i've got to rewrite the submenu :(
12:51 Ruudi i think there is a solution but not easy to find
12:51 maholtz|WORK @ruudi,@mosez: use CASE and stdWrap for ATagParams
12:52 Ruudi havent used case before i'll check documentation for this one
12:52 maholtz|WORK ATagParams.stdWrap.append = CASE
12:53 maholtz|WORK _if_ ATagParams has stdWrap propertie
12:54 Ruudi i'm not sure I can follow it, those options should be set in TSconfig for a certain page?
12:54 maholtz|WORK no - you define it via typoScript - in case of page=123 add rel-tag in other cases not
12:55 maholtz|WORK you could use instead if
12:55 maholtz|WORK if do you think it would be easier
12:55 s-andersen maholtz|WORK: I almost have some TS finished for them, can you tell me how you load the current uid of the TMENUITEM into the if.value?
12:56 maholtz|WORK if.value.field = uid should work (uid is the uid of the actuall page)
12:56 FloLeBlanc re
12:56 Ruudi basically it's if then sentence then that's what I was thinking about at the first place but have no idea how to write it down
12:56 s-andersen maholtz|WORK: isn't it the uid of the active page?
12:57 maholtz|WORK 1.NO.... is rendered for every page which is visible in the menu
12:57 s-andersen Ruudi: as soon as I figure out how to load the current TMENU uid into the comparison, I have a solution for you
12:57 Ruudi cool
12:58 s-andersen You're right maholtz|WORK
12:58 maholtz|WORK should not be complicated - i hope;)
12:59 s-andersen Ruudi: http://phpfi.com/329824
12:59 s-andersen maholtz|WORK: Nope, not very complicated when you know what to write :)
13:00 maholtz|WORK but why do you use override - if they want to set a additional class, it will be overwrittend?
13:00 maholtz|WORK i would do it like that:
13:00 Ruudi doesn't look complicated to me neather lol, just doesn't speak the language that well, just want to add rel="lightbox" and there is no classes added before
13:00 s-andersen maholtz|WORK: That's the only thing I know. Is there something called append?
13:00 maholtz|WORK ATagParams.append = TEXT
13:00 maholtz|WORK ATagParams.append.value =
13:00 mikhas rodi: tried uninstalling skin_grey2 but it still behaved different in FF3, with Typo3 4.1.7. Might be something else.
13:01 Ruudi mhm append with text seems better way
13:01 Ruudi ok i will try the scripts and thanx a billion
13:01 maholtz|WORK perhaps you have to set ATagParams.append.noTrimWrap = | | | too
13:01 maholtz|WORK if it work, please put it into snippet repository on support.typo3.org
13:02 s-andersen maholtz|WORK: http://phpfi.com/329827 Like that?
13:03 maholtz|WORK yep, should work
13:03 maholtz|WORK i think, you should add a noTrimWrap = | | | so you have spaces arround and not class="abc"rel="lightbox"
13:04 s-andersen maholtz|WORK: Not necessary, the output looks like it should here
13:05 maholtz|WORK if you set ATagParams = class="abc" ?
13:06 s-andersen yes
13:06 s-andersen class="hejsa" rel="lightbox"
13:06 maholtz|WORK perfect
13:06 maholtz|WORK *wonder* ;)
13:09 HardPhuck guys if i install skin_grey_2 i cannot see the content area when clicking page module, what could be wrong?
13:10 FloLeBlanc HardPhuck: your screen is dirty :) (sorry couldn't resist that)
13:10 HardPhuck lol
13:10 FloLeBlanc HardPhuck: did you check the compatibility ? (t3 version and required extensions?)
13:10 HardPhuck yes
13:10 HardPhuck i have latest typo3
13:10 HardPhuck 4.2.1
13:10 m4rtijn did u check in another browser..?
13:10 m4rtijn ie or opera
13:11 HardPhuck yes
13:12 m4rtijn and?
13:12 FloLeBlanc did you click on the ext in the ext manager to see if there are any conflicts except XClass ones?
13:12 HardPhuck yes, same problem in all browsers
13:12 HardPhuck this is a clean installation of typo
13:13 HardPhuck so only skin_grey, contentacess and php_shared_bli installed
13:13 HardPhuck nothing else
13:14 FloLeBlanc so you don't have t3skin_improved installed :)
13:15 HardPhuck i doubt that could be the issue
13:15 FloLeBlanc ok.. (this would conflict with your ext)
13:15 FloLeBlanc sorry then I'm out of ideas
13:16 m4rtijn I got an idea
13:16 m4rtijn ... :p
13:16 Einzig Does anyone know which extensions in typo3 4.2 provide the LDAP backend authenticatio as listed on the features.
13:18 Ruudi maholtz|WORK s-andersen code works perfectly thank you a lot lot lot
13:18 Einzig I do not see ldap_server working in version 3.8 either honestly.
13:18 s-andersen Ruudi: Is it online? Can I see it? :D
13:19 maholtz|WORK @ruudi,@s-andersen: will one of you put it into http://support.typo3.org/snippets/ please?
13:19 s-andersen yeah maholtz|WORK I'll throw it in there
13:20 maholtz|WORK thank you!
13:21 Recnelis Could we see the snippet in action? :)
13:21 Ruudi http://www.brightside.ee/roose.ee/ left menu broneerimine
13:22 Ruudi no propper template and wrong size of lightbox but surely opens
13:23 Recnelis Nice
13:24 s-andersen Yeah, nice feature
13:24 s-andersen what extension to you use that with?
13:24 FloLeBlanc nice
13:24 Einzig Is there an extension to get multiple images next to eachother on a page?
13:25 maholtz|WORK @Ruudi: which country is that?
13:25 maholtz|WORK @einzig: content element image?
13:25 FloLeBlanc Einzig: if you just want plain images you can use content element im.... maholtz said it :)
13:25 Einzig Thank you.
13:25 Ruudi estonia maholtz
13:26 Ruudi s-andersen you mean what ext i used for lightbox? pmk slimbox it is
13:26 rw hi there ... did anyone ever used the export presets in the taskcenter?
13:26 rw because they are not working
13:31 Einzig maholtz|WORK: Did you mean that one from the drpdownbox?
13:31 Einzig I need a sort of news item where there are several image with several positions in the text.
13:32 Einzig So far I did not mage that within the standard options.
13:32 Einzig manage*
13:35 maholtz|WORK @einzig: perhaps standard options + TypoScript:)
13:35 maholtz|WORK you could combine some textpic content elements
13:36 Einzig maholtz|WORK: So you do not have pages with several images, with not the same alignment?
13:36 Einzig hmm
13:36 maholtz|WORK text1 [pic1]
13:36 maholtz|WORK [pic2] text2
13:36 maholtz|WORK something like that?
13:36 Einzig yes
13:37 Einzig though it should be image in text, not next to.
13:37 maholtz|WORK you could use two content elements for that
13:37 maholtz|WORK well do you are able to manage it via html&css?
13:38 Einzig It seems to mess up in Typo3, when editing it in html. hmm. But I can try again.
13:38 maholtz|WORK you could use image in rte - but that is not an cms solution i think
13:38 Einzig (the text got all messy)
13:43 Einzig And concerning LDAP authentication. No one here uses it? :/
13:52 Einzig maholtz|WORK: Have any idea who made the list of supported features on the website. at least he must know which ldap plugin should work with the latest version..
14:47 m4rtijn anyone here who uses real_url often?
14:48 m4rtijn I noticed that images get human readable filenames if I "save image as" .. but only images that get inserted after I install / enable realurl
14:49 m4rtijn is there a good method to get all images human-readable without having to edit the Content element?
14:55 rodi m4rtijn: if you mean the filename, you could use the typoscript option config.meaningfulTempFilePrefix
14:58 m4rtijn hmmkay.. I just though maybe if I delete the /typo3temp content and it generates new ones.. i might do it automatically...
14:59 m4rtijn but it doesnt :)
14:59 m4rtijn thx rodi
14:59 m4rtijn is it boolean?
14:59 m4rtijn config.meaningfulTempFilePrefix = 1 ?
14:59 rodi no it has type int
15:00 rodi config.meaningfulTempFilePrefix = 40 will take the first 40 characters from the original filename and append the hash
15:00 Recnelis When making things such as forms in ur extension - Is it considdered a good thing to prefix with the extension name? - Cuz I think it makes my code look confusing :s
15:00 m4rtijn aah, ok thx
15:01 rodi m4rtijn: therefore your original files have to be name human readable ;-)
15:01 m4rtijn hehe.. yeah
15:09 Denyerec no more DSCF000434.jpg for you m4rtijn ;)
15:15 HardPhuck okay i installed a new copy of typo
15:15 HardPhuck and the first plugin is skin_grey_2
15:15 HardPhuck and yet it does not work
15:16 HardPhuck i mean it works but i can;t see the main, work frame, only navigation and page tree
15:16 HardPhuck is there some hidden configuration
15:24 HardPhuck the thing is that 'list' module works with no problems
15:24 HardPhuck but web module displays nothing in the main area
15:38 Denyerec hmm
15:38 Denyerec where's uschi when you need her ?
15:45 FloLeBlanc Denyerec: I haven't seen her for some time
15:45 Denyerec :(
15:57 FloLeBlanc is there an extension for user statistics? (fe_users - zip codes, gender percentages, etc.)
16:07 ktk hi all
16:09 ktk short q: I get the impression that some of our content got hacked in our typo3, see http://www.ti.bfh.ch/index.php?id=975&L=0 and have a look at the URLs in the navigation
16:09 ktk it attaches a link to an external URL, this URL seems to change according to my logs
16:09 ktk thing is we couldn't locate that yet in the DB so I'm a bit lost where to search
16:10 FloLeBlanc ktk: I'm no expert on hackers, I guess I'd first of all change all passwords, scan the machine for viruses and spyware, lock the install tool with the die call, check the Typoscript that generates the menu, check the rewrite mod of the server
16:11 FloLeBlanc also check in the extension manager and in the file system if there is an extension that shouldn't belong there
16:11 ktk ok
16:13 ktk thing is it's just under the "Bibliothek" submenue
16:13 FloLeBlanc you might also consider talking to someone who has more knowledge than me on t3 and servers, and ask if this could have been injected on the server without modifying t3 (url rewrite), make also sure to check the typo3 security bulletin and update to the latest version
16:13 ktk not before
16:13 maholtz|WORK @ktk: update your typo3
16:14 FloLeBlanc hmm check the template for this site
16:14 maholtz|WORK check config.configVars
16:14 maholtz|WORK afaik: that is not an security issue
16:15 maholtz|WORK config.linkVars = L(0,1,2)
16:15 maholtz|WORK you can configure all of your vars in linkVars like that
16:16 maholtz|WORK so only the values you have defined would be used
16:16 maholtz|WORK clear cache after that an everything will be fine
16:16 ktk ok as I am just the server admin and not the typo3 admin, that's typoscript?
16:16 m4rtijn zes
16:16 m4rtijn yes
16:16 ktk ok
16:17 ktk so someone could have injected that before with a weak account for example
16:20 ktk hmm don't find decent documentation for that on google, any reference?
16:20 m4rtijn .. normally only the typo3 admin has access to that module
16:20 ktk on this config option I mean
16:20 m4rtijn yes
16:20 ktk I have to explain the typo3 admin what he should try ;)
16:20 m4rtijn tell him to check all Typoscript
16:21 m4rtijn and tell him to upgrade to the newest typo3 version
16:21 ktk ok I will
16:21 m4rtijn 4.2.1 or 4.1.7
16:21 ktk I see 4.2.1 in the typo3 root on the server so he probably considered that already :)
16:21 ktk will ask him which one is active
16:21 ktk 4.1.6 is there too
16:21 m4rtijn hehe
16:22 m4rtijn check the var/www/web/ which one is symlinked
16:22 m4rtijn you only have to symlink /typo3 and /t3lib
16:22 maholtz|WORK @ktk: security team said, that it is not an security issue
16:22 maholtz|WORK only does not look nice
16:23 ktk ok I thought that according to the URL
16:23 ktk but what did the one doing it try to do?
16:23 ktk XSS?
16:23 maholtz|WORK yep, i too some time ago
16:23 maholtz|WORK getting domain into url to spoof google? i do not know
16:24 ktk ah yes might be too
16:24 maholtz|WORK it is an missconfiguration - nothing else
16:25 ktk ok good to know
16:25 ktk so the config change should fix it
16:25 maholtz|WORK yep
16:25 ktk ok tnx for the hints, trying to reach the guy now
16:33 rw hi there ... did anyone ever used the export presets in the taskcenter?
16:33 rw because they are not working
16:35 m4rtijn did anyone ever get smoothgallery in a vertical manner..?
16:50 tomyN hi, is it possible to use an 'a' tag, such as 'hover a' with a span tag?
16:51 maholtz|WORK you talk about css? (yep, it is possible for some browsers)
16:53 HardPhuck could someone tell me which plugin is EASIER to use: Automaketemplate or templavoila!
16:53 maholtz|WORK NO RELIGION HERE
16:53 maholtz|WORK scnr;)
16:53 m4rtijn tomyN - check #css
16:54 HardPhuck i am building a website for people with very few cmoputer knowledge
16:54 HardPhuck therefore i need the easiest solution possible
16:55 tomyN well it does work, I am converting a standard html site into a typo3 template. T3 seems to ignore the span tags
16:56 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: you only need TemplaVoila if you use complex layouts
16:57 maholtz|WORK if your website works in columns you should use automaketemplate
16:57 maholtz|WORK (that is my opinion)
16:57 HardPhuck yeah i mostly (in fact, only) use columns
16:58 maholtz|WORK i did never used templavoila for an productive site yet
16:59 m4rtijn tomyN - it is not supported by all browsers anyway.. if u want it to work on all browsers u need to use <a> not <span>
16:59 HardPhuck neither have i, that's why i'm asking
16:59 HardPhuck and the fact, that page module doesn't work with skin_grey_2
16:59 HardPhuck :)
16:59 tomyN my second question: Although I read the manual about RTEhtmlarea, how can I connect this to my custom stylesheet?
16:59 tomyN thanks m4rtijn, will try this
17:02 tomyN m4rtijn: http://pastebin.com/m1a21df0f ??
17:09 m4rtijn ??
17:10 m4rtijn in order to have multiple site management.. like 2 websites on one typo3 installation.. whats the best way to do that?
17:11 m4rtijn do I need some extension?
17:12 maholtz|WORK nope - you need only two root-templates
17:12 m4rtijn and? those domain thingies?
17:12 maholtz|WORK ah, domain record on the "root" pages (not on the globe)
17:12 m4rtijn where can I find some documentation about that maholtz|WORK ?
17:12 maholtz|WORK ? you do not need;)
17:12 m4rtijn kk
17:13 m4rtijn I'll just learn by doing then :
17:13 m4rtijn :)
17:13 maholtz|WORK globe
17:13 maholtz|WORK www.yoursite.de
17:13 maholtz|WORK www.othersite.de
17:13 maholtz|WORK usually you have a page with id = 1
17:14 maholtz|WORK create a new one under that page
17:14 m4rtijn ye..
17:14 m4rtijn and just insert those domain records there?
17:14 maholtz|WORK yep
17:15 m4rtijn col.. thx
17:16 m4rtijn then? redirect.. ?
17:17 maholtz|WORK no your server sends both domains to typo3 - typo3 checks if there is a domain record
17:17 maholtz|WORK well, perhaps you could write a little documentation about that?
17:17 m4rtijn hehe
17:18 m4rtijn hmhm.. should this work if I call it with domain/index.php
17:18 m4rtijn or only if i use domain.tld
17:19 m4rtijn caus. its not working ;)
17:19 m4rtijn aaah.. it is working ;)
17:19 m4rtijn my fault.. some cache
17:19 maholtz|WORK :)
17:20 m4rtijn thats quite easy
17:22 ktk ok guys got feedback from the typo3 admin config.linkVars fixed my URL problem
17:22 ktk thanks again
17:22 maholtz|WORK np
17:26 HardPhuck and for domains be sure that you enter two domain records, one with www and one without otherwise one will be sent to the default typo3 page
17:27 m4rtijn i forgot: thx maholtz|WORK ;)
17:27 m4rtijn yep, thought about that HardPhuck
17:28 maholtz|WORK afaik you should redirect one domain to the other, so google does not found two domains with same content... not sure if it is important
17:32 m4rtijn I think it is, yes.. I read that somehwere as well
17:32 m4rtijn but never done that
17:32 m4rtijn :)
19:39 Phlogi__ just2b: ping
19:41 skipjack Hello
19:42 skipjack I want to create an TypoLink which method is called ?
19:43 just2b cObj.->typolink
19:43 just2b phlogi what?
20:06 skipjack hm
20:06 skipjack tslib_pibase.pi_linkTP
20:06 skipjack I use this
20:16 Phlogi__ just2b: is rguploader not in TER?
20:17 just2b no
20:17 Phlogi__ are you doing it with jquery?
20:17 just2b no
20:18 Phlogi__ everything on your own?
20:18 just2b no
20:18 just2b mootool
20:18 just2b as usual
20:19 Phlogi__ ah ok
20:21 Phlogi__ mootools seem to more powerful than jquery
20:22 just2b i just dont wanna do 2 libs
20:22 Phlogi__ of course
20:22 just2b but i event dont do any typo3 now ;)
20:25 Phlogi__ would you recommend mootools as js framework?
20:25 just2b i like it
20:27 Phlogi__ do you know dojo?
20:28 just2b just the name
20:28 Phlogi__ ok
20:28 Phlogi__ i'm planning to learn one of those frameworks, instead of actually try to increase my js skills
20:29 just2b good idea
20:29 Phlogi__ and I hate normal js...
20:29 Phlogi__ so I thought a framework maybe is the key to finally be able to do anything good with js ^^
20:30 just2b jep
20:31 just2b js is really cool with those things available
20:31 isolysis jquery is nice, but to me it seems like alot of page bloat.. uncompressed it is somewhere between 70-90kb
20:32 just2b uncompressed are all such big
20:33 isolysis i was never able to figure out how to get the compressed/minified version.. since I have a windows server I wasn't sure gzip compression works on that, and even then when you check for some of the compressed versions on jquery website it shows like 45k
20:33 just2b gzip is something different
20:33 just2b use minify
20:34 just2b 45k is so not important today
20:37 isolysis i know what you mean, but if your page is already about 200k on the front page then every extra kb begins to count. lol
20:37 just2b why is it 200k ^^
20:38 just2b and the js is the thing will be cached.. set expire headers and so on
20:38 nd_ Instead of using minify you could and probably should try the yui compressor
20:40 isolysis the page design is clean and clear, but it has a heavy load due to use of lots of images, background gradients etc and a large number of css files (using the typo3 yaml framework here)
20:41 isolysis so far we have been using single js functions for anything we needed to do here and there.. i guess using jquery we are saving for some specialist niche kind of pages
20:41 just2b lol.. you use yaml and then mouning about some other KB... lol
20:41 isolysis these days there is a bit too much influence of so called web 2.0 - sometimes a plain static page that is designed well works best
20:42 isolysis yaml is pretty decent, and the extension for typo3 enabled us to create a nice site within it which we wouldn't have been able to do otherwise
20:42 nd_ I never used YAML but all the time people tell me it takes KBs to MBs of code for a basic design... is that really true?
20:42 just2b i just donl like it ;)
20:43 just2b nd_ take a look at a yaml page.. lopl
20:43 nd_ just2b: will later
20:43 just2b my current project got also several thousand lines css but i need it ;)
20:43 isolysis nd_: its not that bad - i dont know if you have seen the newer versions of it.. it seems to have improved considerably over previous versions
20:44 nd_ isolysis: for future design, take a look at YUI
20:44 nd_ I like it a lot, you can use my (extremely simple) extension to use the css withing CSC...
20:44 isolysis nd_: i thought YUI was a js framework
20:44 nd_ isolysis: They also have a CSS part...
20:44 isolysis oh
20:44 just2b nd which ext?
20:44 nd_ just2b: nd_yui_css
20:45 isolysis will make a note of it
20:45 nd_ it's basicly a one-liner but I just wanted to save these httprequests ;)
20:45 just2b it merges the css?
20:45 nd_ just2b: It just adds the yui-css to CSC
20:46 just2b got a example somewhere?
20:46 nd_ give it a shot and - please - give feedback ;)
20:46 nd_ just2b: of yui itself?
20:46 just2b and the thing you do
20:46 nd_ nah, not really
20:46 nd_ using it with the intranet of my company, the future internet (which is not online yet)
20:47 nd_ well, yui is used on www.unsermac.com but it's the hell of a simple site, so it's probably not a promoting example ;)
20:47 nd_ Then again yui-css is used on yahoo.com and aol.com as far as I remember...
20:51 just2b finished another 100 lines css for 1 page.. omg ;)
20:51 nd_ ;)
20:52 just2b 1050 lines for basically 6 pages
20:52 nd_ ouch
20:52 nd_ you're using any framework?
20:52 just2b yes
20:53 just2b magento
20:53 nd_ ah, hell
20:53 nd_ ok
20:53 just2b but these are my own pages
20:53 just2b but for landing and service pages
21:14 isolysis is it possible to have a normal content page, but with some config have it redirect to an external url? i.e. my site page is called example.com/directory/article/ and anyone entering that url is redirected to someothersite.com/xyz ? I tried the External Url type content element but it displays the third party url in the menu rather than the page path
21:15 just2b use the redirect module of realurl
21:16 isolysis ahh am using cooluri
21:16 isolysis i think it has something similar to redirect but if i do the option to clear all page path info and start again.. it will delete this along with it thus i'd have to enter those urls again
21:17 isolysis i think i may just leave it as is and tackle the linking another way
21:17 just2b set it with a small php script :D
21:22 nd_ isolysis: You can set it as sticky so it doesn't get deleted
21:25 isolysis thanks for your suggestions, but i think i am going to leave it as it is.. i am going to just show the direct links in the menu - it just means i have to update the links elsewhere. i think i tried making that sticky in cooluri but i think i did a 'hard delete' of everything and then it wasn't there after that.. seems like an unstable way to do it for the long term and i try to keep things...
21:25 isolysis ...simple so there is less that can go wrong
22:49 davidbrunnthaler ello folks, does anybody here know something about irre and how to create and configure new attributes?
22:50 davidbrunnthaler for me it's just not working as it is described in the manual
22:52 skipjack pizza time
22:52 skipjack ;)

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