Search the website and IRC logs

#TYPO3 IRC log from : Sunday 16 March 2008

Year: 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
Month: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
Day: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31
00:07 seppldppl hey guys ... anyone of you can help me with typoscript navigation? I'm trying to achieve a 1st and 2nd level navigation where all links are always displayed, in this order:
00:08 seppldppl 1stLevel1 1stLevel2 1stLevel3
00:08 seppldppl 2stLevel1 2stLevel2 2stLevel3
00:09 seppldppl hmmm, not sure if thats understandable....lol. I'll try again
00:09 seppldppl 1 2 3 4
00:09 seppldppl 1.1 2.1 3.1 4.1
00:09 seppldppl 1.2 2.2 3.2 4.2
00:10 seppldppl 1.3 2.3 3.3 4.3
00:10 seppldppl That's more like it...anyone have any ideas?
00:36 seppldppl anyone here?
01:10 glycoknob hello
01:11 glycoknob is there an alternative to tximpexp out there? i friend using this mod very heavy and hits his server limts quite hard. maybe someone wrote an more effective alternative to it?
01:11 glycoknob i = a
01:12 glycoknob for his needs mysqldump and copy are not suitable he told me
01:16 chefan what does he intend to do?
01:16 chefan mysqldump is a pretty efficient method for its intended use
01:17 chefan and it's pretty hard coming up with an alternative without even knowing what he plans to do
01:27 glycoknob i know - he wants to share parts of quite big typo3 sites - lots of pictures lots of articles - so he exports some (quite big) parts from one site and imports this in the other side. mysql only gets the whole bunch - i don't know if it would be possible to organize it in a better way
01:29 glycoknob i proposed to split up the exported parts again so that export stays within in the limit. i guess the import/export tool was never designed with such kind of usage in mind
01:52 chefan let me see if i get the consept
01:52 chefan concept even
01:54 chefan hmm, not that it mattered anymore
02:05 Typochur good evening
02:07 Typochur what do you think is better, to put several domains in one typo-system or to use more typo-systems with one core?
02:13 chefan all one authority?
02:16 Typochur mh ... some customers but every typo system has just 2 or 3 backend users
02:16 Typochur and very simple pages ... little text with image and a guestbook or somethin like this
02:16 Typochur think i'll put it all into one system
02:16 Typochur it's easier for me to handle :)
02:16 Typochur and its a good point that all systems use the same version of an extension
02:17 Typochur they can't install extensions on their own :) I'll do that
02:20 chefan i strongly advise against letting different users (in the sense of companies) on one typo3
02:21 chefan if you do the admin job, the workload will grow over your head, and you can't distribute it
02:21 chefan allowing unconnected clients to run own extensions on one typo3 is maintenance hell
02:22 chefan you would have to revise and audit every single one of them
02:22 chefan once anyone is able to touch php code in typo3, all security vanishes in a puff of smoke
02:23 chefan you cannot even prohibit eval(), typo3 uses it itself
02:24 chefan one client, one typo3 instance. that would be my advice
02:25 chefan besides, you save nothing in keeping them on the same instance
02:25 chefan no matter how big, it's a script, nothing else
02:26 Typochur mh ...
02:26 Typochur i think you got a wrong picture of my clients :)
02:26 Typochur most of them won't even login the typo system inner the next ten years
02:26 Typochur they will send me a foto from time to time and say "could you please put this on the page?"
02:27 chefan i think you got a wrong aproach to security ;)
02:27 Typochur why?
02:27 chefan it's not about what people probably will do
02:27 chefan it's about what they could do
02:27 Typochur every backend user just gets access to his/her pages ... i don't see a security risk in here
02:28 chefan ok, lets say i wouldn't do it by principle ;)
02:28 Typochur he he
02:28 Typochur i don't see a problem in here cause they can't even touch ext manager or something :)
02:29 Typochur they just get "edit" and "list" module
02:29 chefan as long as you are sure you can handle the admin part, and never ever will have to allow anyone installing extensions
02:29 chefan you'll be fine then
02:30 chefan maybe you should even tweak the typo to allow front end editing
02:30 Typochur yeah I'll do that
02:30 chefan that way you could keep the backend luser clean
02:30 Typochur if someone wants to install own extensions (and take the hole admin part) he gets his own typo3 instance :)
02:31 chefan the "me backend, you client" approach could do fine, depending on the customers
02:31 Typochur yeah it will be ... customers like the primary school my mother works in and stuff ;) Really little sites I'll host for free :)
02:31 chefan don't forget to mention the "support and warranty excluded" part when doing that :D
02:31 Typochur he he
02:31 Typochur yeah
02:32 Typochur think for me admin tasks will be easier done in one instance
02:32 chefan with some sane limits on functionality yes
02:33 chefan ther are some extensions that are known to conflict in typo
02:33 Typochur I actualy never installed feedit :) Do I just have to install new loginbox and a folder with frontendusers? Or do I have to use simulate beuser stuff?
02:34 chefan there are a lot of ways to aproacch that
02:34 chefan there is an extension that connects fe to be users
02:35 Typochur mh ... so I still have to add a be user for every project
02:35 chefan or you could just put use the RTE in a message system and automatize publication
02:36 chefan not nescessarily
02:36 chefan you could as well hook into the auth and connect a fe user to a be archetype you created
02:37 chefan all of which seems a bit overboard, thinking about that you won't be paid for it :D
02:50 chefan i think there are extension that have that functionality
02:50 chefan look up the repository, i guess you'll find a couple
05:14 ghina Greetings, I have a tempalte setup for site 1 and it shows all sub-levels in the menu (FE). The same template is used for another site but it does not show any sub-level menu beyond level 3
05:16 ghina Can someone please explain to me what is wrong with my static template or my menu?
06:45 d|g hi all
11:36 Nekdy hoj
11:51 Timoslav good morning
12:20 crisb2010 hi there
12:24 Timoslav hi
13:34 christian_ i have a problem here: i am trying to link to a picture with "click-enlarge" but everytime the popup opens it says "You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server." does someone have a clue whats wrong there?
13:52 umc hello
13:52 umc anyone has any clue how to overwrite the L parameter with TS ?
13:53 umc I'd like on a certain page to go only with L=0, no matter what they choose...
16:21 Nekdy if i have many templavoila templates and in every template there is a top menu, is there a way to somehow include a menu template in all of those templates so when i change menu i don't need to apply those changes to all templates?
17:16 void Nekdy: menu is usually generated by TS...
17:18 Nekdy yes
17:18 Nekdy but let's say it ain't menu
17:19 Nekdy if there are parts of page that always exist on page
17:19 Nekdy i don't want to be putting them into different templates over and over
17:19 Nekdy i just want to link to them somehow
17:21 Nekdy better explanation of what i want to do is that i want to replace an element of template with another template
17:21 Nekdy i want to map another template into a div for example
17:21 Nekdy i guess it has something to do with subtemplate
17:22 Nekdy but can't find a good tutorial about it
17:37 nader hello,
17:38 void Nekdy: you can make FCE for that
17:38 nader a question
17:38 nader f I want to make a page in which I would present a
17:38 nader list of files (metadata) which are somewhere in my computer, what I have
17:38 nader to do? Do I have to copy them somewhere in "fileadmin/metadata"
17:38 nader directory? Where has been copied the TS templates?
17:40 void do you want to insert them on the particular page or on all pages or only at pages within some branch?
17:40 nader particular page!
17:41 nader for example, I have a page under root-page, (medat-data) in which I would present all metadata files.
17:45 chefan lo void :)
17:46 chefan privet, so to say
17:46 void haha =) hello
17:47 void nader: so... there should be list of files available for download, right?
17:47 void or contents of that files?
17:51 nader no only the links to the files, and if somebody would like to see their content, he can click on it to see it.
18:03 chefan void, i just installed the extrep_wizard on a new typo3
18:04 void chefan: why? uninstall and delete it
18:04 chefan lol
18:04 void it is a shit of mammoth
18:04 chefan why?
18:04 void use kickstarter
18:04 chefan well, extrep_wizard isn't even showing up in the menu
18:05 void nader: so, you should use "filelinks" content element... and first upload your files into fileadmin
18:05 chefan no matter how hard i keep clearing all cache i can imagine
18:06 chefan void: i have to use it, since besides using it i have to document usage of the extrep_wizard for new students in the context
18:06 chefan i am not above changing standards in a university institute, but not yet in the position to do so ;)
18:07 chefan so for now i think the sit of mammoth is sticking to my leg
18:07 void you just cannot use extrep_wizard with modern versions of typo3
18:08 void maybe, with 3.8
18:08 void not 4.0
18:08 chefan oh, that's why it doesn't show up in the menu?
18:12 chefan void: the kickstarter 0.3.0 state alpha?
18:13 void chefan: why 0.3.0?
18:13 void the current version is 0.3.8
18:14 chefan whoops, looks like i have to check my config
18:14 chefan import from repository came up with 0.3.0. alpha
18:17 Salina i have virtual serverandwant to load the typo3-ImageMagick4-4.2.9-1.3.i386.rpm how do i do this
18:17 chefan oh, it's just tagged 0.3.0 in the extension manager list
18:19 chefan what linux, Salina ?
18:20 chefan .rpm is red hat package manager, depending on the platform there are frontend tools to install the package
18:21 chefan best guess with the typical provider would be doing 'man apt-rpm', considering a debian
18:22 Salina yes, how and where i have to put imagick in my server ?
18:22 Salina i have debian with plesk
18:24 chefan the package usually knows, if you didn't toy around with the configurations. read the man page about apt-rpm, you'll need it anyway
18:24 chefan later on in typo3 you still can configure the whereabouts of your image magic
18:25 Salina ok thankx lot
18:56 nader_ filelinks
19:01 nader_ where are saved the "TS templates" in file system? Is the fileadmin the only place in which you can save the files?
19:11 ries nader_: edited in the BE , then they are saved in the BE (table sys_templates I believe)
19:11 void nader_: 1) ts templates are saved into DB. 2) yes
19:15 nader_ If I want to get one them (I mean of of templates) as a text file, how can I get them?
19:19 void nader_: edit the record, copy the contents and paste at your favourite text editor
19:26 hi-ho Greetings, I am using a TMENU for a site and not all links are appearing in the menu (The first, second and third level appear) bu not the fourth level. What can be wrong?
19:29 dodsLondon hey guys, has anyone here used a marker extension for tt_news (using hooks?)
19:30 dodsLondon more specifically, developed code for one...I could use some advice on using makeInstance in this scenario
19:33 ries hi-ho: did you add the TS to your TMENU to allow to see the 4th level?
19:34 hi-ho I did but it did not change anything. In another site, I am using the same TS code and it can see more levels
19:36 void dodsLondon: i made extension which uses extra item marker hook
19:38 dodsLondon Hi void, ok, quick question about that, have you ever tried using makeInstance in the marker code?
19:38 dodsLondon i.e. to pull in another plugin
19:39 dodsLondon the basic idea is I have a custom plugin that scans the tt_news_cat table for related categories
19:40 dodsLondon I want to create an instance of this plugin and then assign a category string to the $conf to provide it with the related cats for the news article
19:40 hi-ho Thanks Ries. It works now. It seems that clear caching was not clearing the cache directly. I restarted the browser and it appears now
19:40 void dodsLondon: ok. and what is your problem?
19:41 dodsLondon so, the marker extension is not an extension of piBase, that may be something to do with the problem....
19:42 dodsLondon basically, I call makeInstance and I get a message saying 'cannot find class' basically
19:42 dodsLondon so I then add a require_once, pointing to the extension pi1 file (wrong thing to do I think)
19:43 dodsLondon and then it tells me that the extension is not loaded
19:43 dodsLondon is it possible to use makeinstance in a marker is my first question
19:45 void dodsLondon: yes, it's possible. errors say me that you use lib/div, right?
19:46 dodsLondon 2 secs, will show you an example
19:47 dodsLondon function getRelatedSiteMarker($markerArray,$row,$lConf,$dummy)
19:47 dodsLondon $conf = array();
19:48 dodsLondon $conf['tt_news_id'] = $dummy->piVars['tt_news'];
19:48 dodsLondon $piObj=t3lib_div::makeInstance("tx_relatedsitesx_pi1");
19:48 dodsLondon $piObj->cObj =& $dummy->cObj;
19:48 dodsLondon $markerArray['###RELATEDSITES###']=$piObj->main("",$conf);
19:48 dodsLondon return $markerArray;
19:49 dodsLondon where $dummy is a tt_news plugin (not truly relevant here...but for clarity...worth a mention)
19:49 dodsLondon problem is on $piObj=t3lib_div::makeInstance("tx_relatedsitesx_pi1");
19:50 dodsLondon "TYPO3 Fatal Error: Extension key "tx_relatedsites" was NOT loaded! (t3lib_extMgm::extPath)"
19:51 dodsLondon any way to solve this error?
20:01 void dodsLondon: you need to install that extension
20:01 void dodsLondon: it is not installed now
20:01 void dodsLondon: btw, highlight me if you want to get answer =)
20:03 dodsLondon the extension is already installed, looks like a fault in my installation as my whole site is down
20:05 void dodsLondon: are you sure that extension "tx_relatedsites" is installed?
20:05 void tx_ - strange prefix for extension name
20:06 chefan typo... strange name for a cms ;)
20:06 dodsLondon I know it's installed as I wrote it
20:07 dodsLondon also, no page is calling for it now, I removed the plugin from the offending pages
20:07 dodsLondon it's like some kind of cached config problem
20:09 void chefan: there are legends about name of typo... =)
20:10 chefan like in: "the whole project didn't work for unknown reasons, when suddenly after deiscovering 3 typos in the core, things started to work out"?
20:11 chefan the working title before was: "most complex script ever known to man"?
20:24 dodsLondon solved the whole 'my website is broken' thing...eclipse was being it's usual buggy self and not saving the doc
20:52 chefan void: you're around?
21:15 Denyerec big moves in tt_news land it seems
21:20 void chefan: yes
21:25 chefan i am working on a service extracting form data and exporting it to another site
21:26 chefan idea is to drop a frontend plugin in pages where the service will be needed, allowing different configuration for different pages
21:27 chefan so i configured the thing as a service in kickstarter that includes a core service as well as a plugin for the frontend
21:27 chefan no i wonder if that's the proper way to classify the extension
21:27 chefan now
21:57 void chefan: classification is a last thing you should think of
22:07 chefan so if i tag it service, it does not have impact on which configuration or classes is loaded or anything?
22:07 chefan more like candy for reusability and adaption?
22:23 tokam critics to www.frogged.de ?
22:24 tokam a link to my page would be vry nice
22:28 void tokam: is it powered by typo3?
22:29 tokam void: it was but now I guess it is no more
22:32 chefan stress test for browsers?
22:33 chefan you want to know what browsers get the heebiejeebies if you switch from html 4 to xhtml 1?
23:42 void tokam: so, what is the reason to give us a link?
23:43 Denyerec Hey void
23:43 Denyerec How are you ?
23:43 void hi Denyerec... good =)
23:43 void and you?
23:44 Denyerec Mmm.
23:44 Denyerec I think good, yes.
23:44 Denyerec Always complaints, always :) But I think on the whole things are goo.
23:44 Denyerec d
23:44 Denyerec .
23:46 Denyerec I still haven't made time to look over the Flow3 source yet.
23:47 Denyerec I've been waiting for some more documentation, but I have a suspicion they may be busier with the code right now.
23:47 void i will have no time to look at the source closely till summer, i think..
23:48 Denyerec Does it get warm where you are?
23:48 Denyerec In summer, I mean
23:48 void last summer was really hot.. two or three days was +40
23:48 void usually - +20-+25
23:49 tokam void: to look at the page and give some critics
23:49 Denyerec I don't normally like hot weather, but this year I find myself hoping for a good summer.
23:50 void Denyerec: what is your average temperature for July?
23:50 void i mean, not 36.6 =)
23:50 Denyerec Hehehe
23:50 Denyerec around 20 I reckon
23:50 Denyerec it felt like it never got over 20 last year
23:51 void temperate climate..
23:51 void btw, i need to translate an English book. that is my task for passing some test in preparing for post-graduate courses
23:52 Denyerec Well, you know where to find me if you need any checks :)
23:52 Denyerec Not on the Russian of course!
23:53 Denyerec Unless you need to translate "Nyet Comrade"
23:53 Denyerec ;)

Technologies


R. van Twisk 2004-2010 R. van Twisk / Avenida Diego de Almagro No: 22-47 y Juan Severino / Quito Ecuador
callto://r.vanTwisk | Support: +1 (803) 4263350

© 2012 R. van Twisk. All Rights Reserved.