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00:09 Denyerec lol
00:09 Denyerec no stress there nature? :)
00:11 Denyerec this is gonna sound silly but have you tried separating them onto separate lines
00:11 Denyerec the [] i mean
00:14 nature i've tried a variety of things
00:14 nature in the t3 book it shows having them on the same line
00:15 nature the last two conditions are met when true
00:15 nature the first two are not ever met
00:15 nature the 4th one is met when true and half true
00:15 nature that is...
00:15 nature when it meets the brand condition
00:15 nature uhg
00:15 nature and
00:16 nature i can switch the first and second with third and fourth (trade places)
00:16 nature and then the third and fourth are still met
00:17 tomyN hi, how can I customize the rich text editor, the options underline isn't there
00:17 tomyN thanks
00:23 nature uhg
00:23 nature [] OR []
00:23 nature well there i go
00:23 nature i want
00:23 nature [] AND []
00:24 nature and you can't nest conditionals
00:24 nature great
00:36 titii helo there
00:36 titii some one here ? :)
00:36 titii hey ries
00:36 titii hey void
00:36 nature yeah... the ones looking for help are here
00:36 nature :)
00:36 tomyN I need help
00:36 void titii: me there
00:36 nature me to
00:36 nature but apparently they don't help the mental around these parts
00:37 void tomyN: did you read the rtehtmlarea docs?
00:37 titii I have a bad time, I need to allow some HTML tags as DL, DT, DD in the RTE, can U help what I dont have to forget to set? :)
00:37 tomyN some of them
00:37 tomyN hhm, not sure
00:37 tomyN I need to make edits in Page TSconfig?
00:38 void tomyN: yes. RTE.default.showButtons
00:38 void titii: you also need to write some page ts config
00:38 tomyN I am looking at this ...
00:38 nature http://phpfi.com/304123
00:38 titii void yea i am doing it
00:38 nature i'm still missing something about conditionals
00:39 tomyN I found this section
00:39 nature the first and 3rd not working
00:39 tomyN # Buttons die gezeigt/versteckt werden
00:39 tomyN #showButtons =
00:39 tomyN #hideButtons = bold, italic,
00:39 nature but if i swap the first with the second
00:39 tomyN but bold and italic is shown
00:39 nature the results are the same
00:39 nature the second one is "true"
00:40 nature [globalVar = GP:brand = accessories AND globalVar = GP:city = m]
00:40 nature is what i want
00:40 titii viod in fact, in the BE it works,,, the DL and so on i am hlding, but in the FE i have that tags as htmlspecialchars :)
00:42 titii so what i am missing?
00:42 void titii: you need to setup parseFunc
00:43 void lib.parseFunc_RTE
00:43 void that one
00:43 tomyN I think I am missing something too,
00:43 titii void lib.parseFunc.allowTags ?
00:43 tomyN I made edits in tsconfig
00:43 void titii: yes
00:44 tomyN no effect
00:44 titii void in a TSconfig? or TS?
00:44 nature omg
00:44 nature i went from having three conditionals working
00:44 nature to now having 5
00:44 void titii: in TS. parseFunc is a FE thing
00:44 nature one to go!
00:44 titii void ok thanx i go to try
00:45 ries hey titii
00:45 titii hey ries
00:45 nature grrrr
00:45 nature i take that back
00:47 titii void o no, it doesnt work, i used lib.parseFunc.allowTags = my tags....
00:47 titii in a setup of TS
00:47 void titii: try lib.parseFunc_RTE.allowTags
00:48 tomyN oh oh, I made it
00:48 tomyN thanks to y'all
00:49 nature so apparently the comma also acts like an OR not an AND
00:49 titii void niiiice, but why the content is also wrapped in a <p class="bodytext"> ?
00:51 void titii: there is a spell: lib.parseFunc_RTE.nonTypoTagStdWrap.encapsLines.ad dAttributes.P.class >
00:52 void remove space between two d
00:52 titii void ok i trty
00:53 tomyN it makes it bold, it italic, but not underlined ?? Did I miss a step?
00:55 titii void hmmm, he just removed the class from the P tag :) but the P tag still there
00:56 void titii: ah, you want to remove p too?
00:56 nature so TScript just does not allow you to do AND conditional statements, eh?
00:56 titii void yea
00:56 void tomyN: try showButtons = *
00:56 tomyN ??
00:56 tomyN the button is there
00:57 void so?
00:57 void you press on underline button and text doesn't get underlined?
00:57 tomyN I can click it, I see the effect in the RTE but it does not appear in the page within a browser
00:58 tomyN it get's underline, but it is like it wouldn't save it
00:58 void titii: there was another spell...
00:59 titii void hmm allowTagsOutside ?
00:59 void forgot..
00:59 tomyN hm, when I hit the save button, it reloads it without underlines
01:00 void tomyN: so, you need to check something like allowTags...
01:00 tomyN oy
01:00 tomyN where would if find this?
01:03 tomyN this: removeTags = center, font, o:p, sdfield, strike, u ?
01:03 titii void yea I got it, it is lib.parseFunc_RTE.nonTypoTagStdWrap.encapsLines.encapsTagList ... thank you..
01:08 titii void, otherwise this doesnt work? RTE.default.proc.allowTags := dl,dt,dd
01:09 tomyN it's not doing it, shouldn't be so complicated
01:12 tomyN u tags are allowed, getting mad ....
01:12 Denyerec nature you fixed it yet?
01:15 tomyN ok, no underlined text then,
01:15 tomyN that's the difference between an employee and a freelancer: I cannot explain to a client why it took me an hour to underline a word
01:25 tomyN might be back to tomorrow. Don't have the time to study why I cannot underline a word or whatever. Cheers!! Ries, I still have your chocolate in mind ;-)
01:25 ries Hey tomyN
01:25 ries in your mind or tomache?? :D
01:25 tomyN hey hey
01:26 tomyN I an a package actually, need to bring it to the mail
01:26 Denyerec Mmm
01:26 Denyerec ecuadorian chocolate
01:26 Denyerec supposed to be some of the best in the world
01:26 tomyN if it's made in switzerland,
01:26 ThomasMurphy german chocolate no.1 !
01:27 ThomasMurphy ;)
01:27 ThomasMurphy good evening btw
01:28 tomyN Milka
01:28 tomyN yeay,
01:28 Ryan524 can I rename the \typo3\ directory for added security without any adverse effects on my site?
01:28 ThomasMurphy yeehaa, just had one
01:28 tomyN I need to go, playing piano in a club,
01:28 tomyN happy easter to everybody
01:28 ThomasMurphy happy easter
01:30 ThomasMurphy ryan - never tried, but doesn't sound so promising
01:31 ThomasMurphy maybe you could do a grep on the source to see if there are any hardcoded path's below typo3/
01:33 Ryan524 not sure what that means but I guess if noboady knows I could always try anyway
01:33 ThomasMurphy do that, grep is a unix command line tool for full-text search of files
01:33 Ryan524 i don't have shell acces i'm on shared hosting
01:33 ThomasMurphy ok
01:34 ThomasMurphy would be cool if you could post you experience here again if you are trying in the next hours
01:34 Ryan524 Cannot find tslib/. Please set path by defining $configured_tslib_path in index.php.
01:34 Ryan524 guess you would have to do some hacking to get it to work
01:35 ThomasMurphy i guess you are using the dummy+sopurce package
01:35 ThomasMurphy with this package, it might be close to impossible
01:36 ThomasMurphy the unix package with seperated source + dummy works with symlinks
01:36 ThomasMurphy there it could work
01:36 ThomasMurphy but don't worry too much about exposing your cms origin
01:37 ThomasMurphy I don't think there is any sql-injection trouble with the login screen
01:37 ThomasMurphy it should be pretty safe
01:57 Denyerec You need better shared hosting :)
02:08 titii some can quickly get me how to allow image in the RTE? :)
02:18 ThomasMurphy have you tried the setting in the extMgM?
02:49 titii hey is someone there? :)
02:49 titii void?
02:49 titii ries?
02:50 ries yes
02:50 ries @titii
02:50 titii in the TSconfig i cant modify, the TS marksers as GAME_DETAILS.renderObj.stdWrap.wrap = <div id="tesssst">|</div> ?
02:51 titii can i somehow affect this marker in some page?
02:54 ries titii: No idea, sorry... my typo3 is kinda rusty since I don't do typo3 that often anymore...
02:54 titii ries aah ok, dont worry :)
03:00 ries titii: I am not really....
04:40 titii someone there?
04:40 titii void?
04:40 titii ries?
04:41 titii how to properly get that constant? something like GAME_DETAILS.renderObj.stdWrap.wrap = <div id="tesssst{$plugin.tx_konlinegames_pi1.content}">|</div>
06:25 bin good morning techies
07:58 jelle can I specify a table prefix when installing typo3? I have only 1 database...
08:07 bin i thin u can specify that too
08:07 bin meansprefix
08:38 titii Helo someone there? :)
08:39 titii I would like to know, if I can create ext. with upgrade the common Form content element. hmmm
08:41 bin is that possible ?
08:41 bin i dont know actually .. if u know can u share the knowledge with me
08:55 just2b morninng
08:55 just2b sure it is possible
09:41 bin just2b: can i talk to jsut2b
10:00 jelle can't find where to se the table prefix in typo3... any hints?
10:00 just2b which prefix
10:00 jelle s/se/set/g
10:01 jelle I want to set a table prefix for the typo3 tables. i have access to only one database.
10:01 just2b not possible
10:01 jelle oh.
10:01 just2b typo3 is enterprise content management system.. so it can be assumed that you can have an own db for it
10:02 jelle right. but there is more on the website than typo3. I have wikis as well
10:02 just2b so?
10:02 just2b you can make a prefix for wiki :D
10:03 jelle 8:)
10:04 just2b problem solved ;)
10:04 jelle I did, I did... so I'll stick to this. ok. thanks for the clarification
10:04 just2b np
10:05 jelle I was looking for a way to easily remove the tables if I don't want typo3 anymore... But I guess once you try typ03 you never go back ;)
10:05 just2b right.. and it is not very difficult to find the tables which are used by typo3
10:06 just2b if you dont get it, just come back here
10:16 bin hi just2b
10:19 Randomresult good morning
10:19 Randomresult someone here who can help with htaccessproblem?
10:19 Randomresult kind a urgend :)
10:20 dotx hello
10:20 Randomresult hi dotx...
10:20 dotx hello
10:20 dotx yep Randomresult
10:22 Randomresult do u know how to handle a htaccess
10:22 Randomresult ?
10:22 Randomresult i have problems with my typo3/wordpress
10:31 bin hi Harry
11:12 HardPhuck is there any tutorial on how to lightify the backend as much as possible, i have a computer retarded client, and i want to hide as much options as possible
11:12 just2b read tsconfig manual and use the userrights
11:14 HardPhuck okay
11:15 HardPhuck so in the column view everything can be removed except columns?
11:50 bin \join #randomresult
13:11 tokam schaut euch hier mal das 2. video an :D da singt einer er sei white & nerdy und ein gentoo logo brennt im dunklen nachgebildet mit teelichtern (lol)
13:11 tokam http://www.frogged.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=1
13:44 ries morning
13:48 tobi_t3w good morning #typo3 :)
13:48 chefan morning
14:25 Phlogi_ hey guys :)
14:25 Phlogi_ dokma: ping
14:25 ries hey Phlogi
14:25 Phlogi_ hey ries how are you doing? =)
14:25 dokma hey :)
14:25 dokma hehe
14:25 Phlogi_ hihi
14:25 dokma what you doin?
14:25 ries Phlogi_: thinking hard about a database design :)
14:25 Phlogi_ Today I finally want to set up php debugging on my server. :)
14:25 dokma hey ries
14:25 Phlogi_ ries: hehe its important to take the time
14:25 dokma did it do well ?
14:26 ries Phlogi_: yeaaaa it's kinda a though one to tackle
14:26 dokma Phlogi_: xdebug ?
14:26 Phlogi_ can you recommend me something? I recently read about eclipse pdt
14:27 dokma Phlogi_ I first used dbg
14:27 dokma but found it to be very unstable with eclipse
14:27 dokma my debug sessions were constantly breaking while stepping through the code
14:27 dokma especially when I was following variable changes
14:27 Phlogi_ pdt is compatible with xdebug as I read
14:27 Phlogi_ ok
14:27 ries Phlogi_: it's a world database for part numbers including it's localised translations and images
14:28 dokma so I switched to pdt + xdebug
14:28 Phlogi_ ries: sounds big :)
14:28 dokma and it is very stable
14:28 Phlogi_ dokma: oh really? So you're my man to get it working then
14:28 dokma only area where I've found some probs is following requires
14:28 dokma sometimes it just refuses to step into a requires call
14:28 ries Phlogi_: there is really not much to it... most important make sure you install xdebug (I never used dbg) confirm it's working by using some command line
14:28 ries and then fire up eclipse
14:28 dokma especially if the filename is in a constant
14:28 ries connect to it and off you go
14:29 dokma yeah, does not seem to hard to install
14:29 dokma it was something like pear install xdebug
14:29 dokma if I'm correct
14:29 dokma then you load pdt into eclipse
14:29 dokma setup a debug config for the project
14:29 dokma and start debugging
14:30 ries I compiled xdebug from source... but that doesn't matter a lot I think
14:30 dokma I think I ended up compiling it also
14:30 Phlogi_ ries: I'm familiar with compiling :) hihi
14:30 dokma can't remember why
14:31 Phlogi_ but the thing is its not a root server.... I'll check it
14:31 Phlogi_ maybe the module is already shipped and I just need to add it to php.ini
14:31 ries dokma: they have made a lot of fixes and changes to xdebug recently... that's why....
14:31 dokma most likely
14:32 Phlogi_ the zend optimizer is installed
14:35 Phlogi_ would you use the stable version?
14:37 Phlogi_ jipiiii it compiled on that server :)
14:39 Phlogi_ grr but how do I restart the webserver? :(
14:41 ries Phlogi_: apachectl is your friend
14:41 Phlogi_ ries: I guess I don't have enough rights
14:41 ries it's your own server, right?
14:42 Phlogi_ nope... its not
14:43 ries Phlogi_: find a know exploid to apache... crash it and then wait untill the owner restarts apache
14:44 ries but to be honest... why do you want to install a debugger on your server?
14:49 Phlogi_ ries: to debug my extensions/typo3 :)
14:49 Phlogi_ ries: nice idea :D
14:50 Phlogi_ zend_extension="/kudsafdsansdfden/170478_63dsafs450//xdebug/xdebug.so" that should work in php.ini?
14:52 ries Phlogi_: why don't you simply debug your extension on your workstation?
14:52 Phlogi_ ries: its nice to have it on the server actually..
14:53 ries Phlogi_: no, not really.... I am not sure about todays date.. but most debugger are compatible with and optmizer so you cannot use e-accelerator and such
14:53 ries don't know about send platform though... I never used that really
14:54 Phlogi_ its no problem, the page is not productive...
14:54 Phlogi_ I just would like to get it working :)
14:56 Phlogi_ I don't see why I need to restart the webserver anyway. I can switch to different php versions... so that sould work too I guess
14:57 ries that can be done on different levels... properly your hoster doesn't use mod_php
15:06 Phlogi_ ries: no it does not use mod_php
15:06 Phlogi_ the php.ini that is parsed looks fine... but still I can't find the module in phpinfo
15:10 ries Phlogi_: may be your provider put it in a reject list...
15:10 Phlogi_ There is one topic in their forums where a user said he could add the module...
15:13 jananne What is the best extension to use to generate a 'multi language' website?
15:14 Phlogi_ will there be an error log somwehere when it fails to load the module?
15:20 ries jananne: basicly you need a language menu and configure typo to use these language
15:20 ries Ahhh crap... sorry Dmitry... it's TYPO3
15:28 jananne ries: i don't have the knowledge todo so :s.
15:28 ries jananne: there are some manuals to do so
15:29 ries you need some TS and a language menu...
15:29 ries and you need to add teh language to the root of your website
15:29 jananne okay, but when some1 clicks on a 'page' called 'about us' and AFTER that he clicks on the language..
15:30 jananne then you must not goto the beginning of the new languaged website.
16:34 Phlogi__ is there any doc about extending an existing extension? I'm not sure how to do that with class extends orig_class
16:47 Phlogi__ Hmm sometimes this is done quite bad as I see :S
16:47 maholtz you mean xclass? is there no hook - it would be much better to use an hook
16:59 tomyN_ hi again,
17:00 tomyN_ I need to make edits in TSConfig, can I get there through the Typo3 interface or should I simply go into the directory with this file?
17:03 thone_ Typo3 interface
17:04 tomyN_ extensions manager?
17:05 tomyN_ there I found this line: Error: Upload folder "uploads/tx_rtehtmlarea/" did not exist!
17:06 tomyN_ What does this mean?
17:07 tomyN_ and conflicts with rte_conf ??
17:08 tomyN_ well, I want to have an option that I can underline text in the Rich Text Editor, am I looking in the right place at all?
17:11 tomyN_ so, how can I navigate to TSConfig ?
17:15 tomyN_ I am reading the documentation, it's not clear to me where to find this
17:17 tomyN_ sights, wer suchet der findet ...
17:21 maholtz you want to configuere rtehtmlarea?
17:21 maholtz ups - to late
17:29 tomyN in pagecontent, right under the RTE, there are fields for Properties. I selected a few lines, and checked "Underline" it's not doing anything
17:29 tomyN something configured wrong?
17:38 federico__ shouldn't that settings only affect non-RTE text?
17:56 guillom hi
17:56 guillom « Warning: mysql_list_tables(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /data/village/guillaumepaumier/unfoldscience_levillage_org/www/t3lib/class.t3lib_db.php on line 974 »
17:56 guillom i guess this is bad?
18:15 maholtz @guillom: check DB via install-tool, may be there is something wrong
18:16 guillom maholtz, thanks. I've tried anyway and it seems everything went ok
18:19 maholtz i do not know, what it could be - perhaps check all your extensions, if there is an error message?
18:23 dokma guillom: turn on sql debugging
18:23 dokma so when an error occurs you'll get debug output
18:23 dokma and be able to pinpoint it
18:23 guillom maholtz, this is a brand new install, there is no extension
18:23 dokma then just surf the site till it happens
18:24 guillom dokma, it was at the first screen of install
18:28 dokma cute
18:28 dokma still, if you can reach install tool flip the sqlDebug on
18:28 dokma if not
18:29 dokma set it manually in localconf.php
18:29 dokma which version you installed?
18:29 guillom 4.1.6
18:29 guillom on a webspace
18:30 dokma do you still have the error?
18:31 guillom well, i had it at the first screen, i ignored it and went through the whole process ; now i'm discovering the back end
18:35 dokma you a newbie?
18:36 guillom indeed
18:37 guillom as much as one can be
19:25 koomi guillom: don't worry. we're all newbies to some degree
19:25 guillom heh :)
19:42 xsebi guillom thats no problem with that error , is occours because the install has to set some dirs/files
19:42 guillom thank you xsebi , it's somewhat reassuring :)
20:24 dokma guillom: how's it goin?
20:24 guillom i'm still not discouraged :)
20:25 guillom i was expecting a quite complicated thing so i'm not disappointed
20:25 guillom but i'm patient
20:45 guillom and probably stupid, since i can't seem to find how to edit a page... rtfm i guess
20:46 uschi you mean the contents of a page or title, meta data etc?
20:46 guillom the content; i see the title & metadata
20:46 uschi ok. click the page title
20:47 uschi not the icon
20:47 guillom ahah
20:47 guillom ok i've found it
20:48 guillom i was looking at the "page related information" tab
20:48 uschi great
20:48 guillom and i guess i should look at the "non-used elements" tab ?
20:48 guillom why is it called "non-used" ?
20:49 uschi ah, you are using templavoila?
20:49 guillom yes
20:49 uschi there is a special thing about dealing with 'deleted' content elements with tv
20:49 uschi tv = templavoila
20:49 guillom okay
20:50 uschi if you delete an element, in installations without tv there is a field deleted in the respective table (tt_content in the case we are talking about)
20:51 uschi without tv that field would be set to 1
20:51 uschi so the ce is never deleted, only has a flag 'deleted'
20:51 uschi do you understand?
20:51 guillom yep
20:51 uschi ok
20:52 uschi with tv you can use one CE on multiple pages by simply referencing it
20:52 guillom hmm, but what i don't understand is that i see the "non used elements" but i can't find the used ones
20:53 uschi have you created a content element in one of your pages?
20:53 guillom i have imported several test pages
20:53 uschi hmm
20:53 guillom http://www.unfoldscience.levillage.org
20:54 uschi i do see something onthat page
20:54 guillom indeed :)
20:54 guillom i'm just trying to figure out how the whole thing works, and where i can modify the content
20:55 uschi by clicking the pencil
23:06 beevi2 is there a way to use a custom doctype (not xhtmlstrict, not xhtmltrans and whatnot) in typo3?
23:30 hajan hi everyone...
23:30 hajan I'm begginer with Typo3. Can someone recommand me useful tutorials for fast start up? :p

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