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#TYPO3 IRC log from : Saturday 22 March 2008

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03:55 ries chefan: it always helps to lurk a bit :)
03:55 chefan oO
03:56 chefan i didn't expect a reply so soon
04:01 ries chefan: hehehhe :)
04:01 ries it's just 10PM here....
04:02 chefan Day changed to 22 Mär 2008
04:02 chefan just a minute ago
04:02 ries hold on
04:11 ries nothing wrong with that....
05:18 titii helo
05:19 titii void, ries helo,
05:19 titii helo all
05:19 titii what does it mean LLL ? Local Lang Label?
06:45 bin good morning friends
06:53 bin do any one knows the extension seminar manager. if knows please help me
09:01 just2b morning
10:17 bin hi anybody here who knows abt seminar manager extension
10:27 Denyerec Not me
10:34 bin Denyerec: thanks
10:34 bin do u know how to add some inforamtion in all pages
10:40 Denyerec header info or page info?
10:40 Denyerec and aret you using TV or not?
10:44 bin page info
10:44 bin yes
10:44 bin iam using tv
10:55 Denyerec page info you wanna do page.headerData.10 = TEXT
10:55 Denyerec page.headerData.10.value = THIS IS MY LOVELY HEADER INFO!
11:02 just2b better is I guess field.abstract
11:04 Denyerec Wouldn't you have to then edit the abstract on every page?
11:04 Denyerec Suppose you could slide it to a default with //
11:05 just2b slide != //
11:05 just2b but yes
11:05 Denyerec <-- tired
11:09 Denyerec what DO you call //
11:10 just2b slide looks up the pages as long as their is nothing in the field
11:10 Denyerec ahhh yeah
11:10 just2b // just looks on same page but different fields
11:10 Denyerec if one is empty, correct ?
11:11 just2b yes
11:11 just2b but with // you can still get an empty value abstract // descrtiption > if both are empty, you get nothing
11:17 bin denyerec can u come to private chat
11:18 Denyerec believe so
11:19 Denyerec question is can you? :)
11:46 bin i have a problem with my typo3
11:46 bin i installed 4.1.5 typo3
11:47 bin then installed extension seminar mangaer
11:47 bin templa voila etc
11:47 bin by useing tv i mapped the sontentes
11:48 bin but after adding the seminars the style sheet not getting
11:48 bin means all the font images etc that are specified are not getting
11:49 bin what may be the problem with that
12:04 Denyerec include static templates?
12:05 bin wheer i have o include
12:05 bin where
12:05 Denyerec edit TS template - > edit whole template record -> 2/3 of the way down
12:06 bin ok
12:09 bin Denyerec: Include static:
12:09 bin right
13:43 joe__ hi
13:43 joe__ i want to update the tt_news extension. can i just install the new one or should i remove the old one first?
13:46 bin joe__: are u working on tt_news
13:46 bin can u tell me the process of adding news and how to display it on site
13:46 bin also detailed news on anothere page
13:46 joe__ no im not. just got the bug that news are ordered wrong
13:46 bin iam new in typo3
13:47 bin do u kknow can show the news
13:47 bin also adding
13:47 joe__ sry i have to fix this bug fast now. page is already online
13:47 bin ok
13:47 bin please help after ur pblm fixed
14:46 HelioShelle hello
14:46 HelioShelle i have a question about linking to pages within blocks of custom HTML
14:46 HelioShelle is there anyway to use the typo3 method within these custom HTML blocks?
14:47 HelioShelle by typo3 method i mean that the links should always point to the right language and use ids instead of URLs so they point to the right page even if the name is changed
15:31 sxs hey guys, i have a question how can i put a logout link to my site? (i use the new frontend loginbox!)
15:32 sxs i dont found anything in the manual :/
15:36 ries sxs: Make a link that says: ?logintype=logout
15:36 ries sxs: example: http://www.domain.com/?logintype=logout
15:39 sxs merci!
15:41 sxs another question, can i put the password lost form on a extra page?
15:42 ries sxs: I guess so..... don't know that from the top of my head
15:43 sxs ^^
15:54 skipjack hello
15:56 skipjack is there an papar which describes the way form creating the FrontEnd Output? I don´t understand where the Extentions read the fields of the databases in the source code
16:01 Phlogi__ hello ries & co
16:02 ries hey Phlogi__
16:03 skipjack hehe
16:04 skipjack ries, ^^ is here famous!
16:05 skipjack glassfish?
16:05 ries skipjack: it's an application server for java applications
16:06 ries it has a high 'cool' factor...
16:06 ries But most of all it's fairly easy to work with
16:06 skipjack sounds like an hype!
16:07 skipjack < is still working on writing Typo3 Ext.. Today, finding an way how!
16:07 Phlogi__ hehe
16:07 Phlogi__ the first extension is a pain, I wish a typo3 ext dev short refernence!
16:08 ries skipjack: it's not really a hipe... people tend to move away from the complicated JBoss application server to glassfish..... not all
16:08 skipjack yes
16:08 ries in the end I am planning to run typo3 on top of java using quercus....
16:08 skipjack okay, I don't know about Jboss
16:08 ries But first I am working on a cool flex application and learning more java stuff
16:09 skipjack Phlogi__, yes ;) and I have here 1 week to get tt_products working with graduated prices for products..
16:09 skipjack ries, Flex, like Flexform in typo3?
16:09 skipjack < I'm learning java at my unifversity of applied science.
16:10 ries skipjack: like in adobe flex
16:10 ries skipjack: click this link, then you can see it in action : http://www.vantwisk.nl/rvt_blazetest/
16:11 skipjack okay
16:11 skipjack looks nice
16:11 skipjack ries, ;)
16:12 ries skipjack: you would even be more surprices with the amouth of code it takes to create it
16:12 skipjack hehe okay?
16:12 ries The messesging part is like Hmmmmm 2 configuration lines... and one line of code
16:13 skipjack lol;)
16:13 skipjack that's great
16:13 ries creation UI's as really easy now :=
16:14 Phlogi__ how can I get the current url in my extension?
16:15 ries Phlogi__: use pi link... top of my head
16:16 ries Phlogi__: $this -> pi_linkTP_keepPIvars_url( )
16:16 ries let me check if that is official typo3.. or that I created it myself :D
16:17 ries yeaa it's official typo3
16:17 Phlogi__ hehe I would use the one without PIvar though
16:17 Phlogi__ is that just $this -> pi_linkTP_url?
16:18 ries Phlogi__: I thimnk the above function gives you a complete URL including the get vars
16:18 ries I used it like this : $this -> smarty -> assign('this_url', $this -> pi_linkTP_keepPIvars_url( ));
16:18 Phlogi__ ries: yes I see, but I don't want the get vars
16:18 ries But I didn't touch that code for a looooong time
16:18 Phlogi__ t3lib_div::getIndpEnv('REMOTE_ADDR'), whats this?
16:18 ries NOOO
16:19 ries use the link functions
16:19 ries let me check the other function
16:22 Phlogi__ hmm why is there not linkTP_url
16:22 Phlogi__ just linkTP is not a full link
16:22 ries Phlogi__: try this : $this->pi_getPageLink(123)
16:23 Phlogi__ ah found it
16:23 Phlogi__ tslib_pibase::pi_linkTP_keepPIvars_url with clearAnyway :D
16:23 Phlogi__ quite messy :D
16:24 ries yeaaa indeed.. I was looking in that
16:24 ries I believe it's not even 100% compatible with cHash
16:24 ries But I never make extensions that are 100% USER
16:24 ries so I don't care hahahaha
16:26 Phlogi__ hihi
16:26 Phlogi__ damn that does not return the full url
16:26 Phlogi__ only like /foo/bar
16:28 Phlogi__ whats the cleanest way to get the page url domain?
16:30 ries Phlogi__: I normally did set abaseurl.. so it's really not a problem...
16:30 ries I believe there is a TS option that will make sure all URl's are generated including it's domain name
16:30 ries Best is to use that
16:30 Phlogi__ hmm but where is that
16:52 ries Phlogi__: are you planning to use realurl?
16:53 Phlogi__ ries: I do yes... as mentioned this will be an extension for comments... although I don't know how to to extend it
16:54 ries Phlogi__: then I would really suggest not to 'trick' it... and use the proper PI functions
16:54 Phlogi__ hmm yes
16:54 ries Phlogi__: also you really don't need the ful domain name... just use relative paths and setup baseUrl ... then it works fine
16:54 Phlogi__ ok
16:55 Phlogi__ what if I want to extend an existing extension? I mean I need to copy some of the code of the original extension :(
17:04 skipjack ries, do you doing giving lessons for paying people in greating Extenions Programming / understanding?
17:04 ries skipjack: Not anymore... I am at the moment to rusty when it comes to typo3....
17:04 ries Phlogi__: it depepnds on how you want to extend it...
17:05 skipjack what ;) rusty you? crazy!
17:10 sxs hey, do anyone know how i can the password lost form include into my page? (from better login form!)
17:12 Phlogi__ hmm as soon as I update a record in the table I get the following error afterwards when loading the page: http://pastebin.ca/952850
17:13 Phlogi__ sxs: what?
17:13 Phlogi__ ah ok
17:13 sxs sorry for my english ;D
17:14 Phlogi__ do I need to update the cache somehow? or the refindex or what?
17:25 ries Phlogi__: what sort of plugin are you creating?? USER or USER_INT ?
17:25 Phlogi__ its already working thanks ries
17:25 ries Phlogi__: if you clear the cache... do you do it from your extension?
17:25 Phlogi__ yes
17:27 ries Phlogi__: how do you clear the cache rom your extension?
17:34 ries Phlogi__: Just don't use no_cache functions :D
17:39 guillom|away nick guillom
17:39 guillom|away grr
17:39 guillom :)
17:40 guillom "Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /Users/<removed>/<removed>/todo/t3lib/class.t3lib_div.php on line 2537"
17:40 guillom i get this error at the first screen of installation ; this is probably an error of file permissions ; any hint about where to fix that please ?
17:41 ries guillom: dod you upload typo3 by means of FTP?
17:41 guillom ries, indeed
17:42 ries properly you have a control panel?
17:42 guillom what do you mean ?
17:43 ries then modify the permissions in yoru control panel to reflect the webservers user
17:43 guillom you mean i should allow write permissions for the whole folder ?
17:44 ries yes... you need write permissions
17:45 guillom ok; but i guess i'll need to change that later, as it is probably not good for security ?
17:53 Phlogi__ ries: http://pastebin.ca/952890
17:54 ries Phlogi__: if your extension is USER (and properly is)
17:54 ries then your functions will never be called because teh cached page will get retreived
17:54 ries best/easy thing to do is change your whole plugin to a USER_INT
17:54 ries and don't worry about caching
18:15 Phlogi__ ries: its the comments extension from Dmitry Dulepov
18:15 ries Phlogi__: I don't know that one
18:15 Phlogi__ np
19:27 Phlogi__ hmm typo3 is per desing not xhtml strict compatible. Because of the name="my_ext[field]" piVars concept...
20:10 notknow Hi, first time with irc, using colloquy on Mac, can see members-list but nothing else (no messages), will come back after being better informed, bye
20:57 guillom I am installing TYPO3 on a webspace I rent. Only one database is allowed, and I have other stuff in it (wikis etc.) How can I tell the TYPO3 installation program to use this databse by creating new tables ?
21:10 skou hola
21:16 chefan guillom: there should be an option for "use existing db"
21:16 chefan the typo3 tables are ale prefixed, so you shouldn't run in any trouble with that
21:16 guillom chefan, yes, there is one, but it says it must be empty ; mine isn't empty and i don't want it emptied :)
21:17 guillom hmm
21:17 guillom i'm doing a backup right now
21:17 chefan sec...
21:17 chefan i'll check something
21:21 chefan ok, forget about the prefixing, i was wrong ;)
21:21 chefan can you make sure that the other tables are prefixed?
21:21 guillom argh :(
21:22 chefan don't worry, there is always a solution ;)
21:22 guillom yes, i'm pretty sure they are
21:22 guillom heh :)
21:22 chefan make a "show tables" in your mysql admin
21:23 chefan and check if you have any tables that are not prefixed with the app using it, or something else that makes sure you don't run in trouble with the typo3 db
21:23 chefan your worst nightmare might be that typo3 manages it's database, so it might be that it will try to wipe everything that isn't registered in typo3
21:24 chefan but there is a workaround for that too
21:24 guillom yes all my tables are prefixed; i'm just not reassured, so i'm making a dump of the database in case something goes wrong
21:24 chefan might be a bit work though
21:24 chefan good idea. make a complete dump
21:25 chefan you can then drop all tables and install typo3 on the clean deb
21:25 chefan db
21:25 chefan later you can reimport the tables for the other apps
21:25 guillom this is very scary :)
21:26 chefan well, running something like typo3 on a restricted platform is always scary
21:26 guillom right
21:26 chefan now for the db management of typo3
21:27 chefan if typo3 keeps trying to remove unregistered tables, you could just make a dummy extension, some "do nothing" service, in which you register the tables
21:27 chefan that way, typo3 will "think" the tables belong to the extension and leave them alone
21:28 guillom i see
21:28 chefan use the kickstarter to generate the boilerplate
21:28 guillom btw, i've found that people in this channel are very helpful; this is really great
21:28 guillom thank you
21:28 chefan might be overkill to learn emconf for that
21:28 chefan de nada :) starting with typo3 without help would be pretty frustrating
21:29 guillom indeed :)
21:31 Phlogi__ anyone knows how I can get the current page name in my extension?
21:32 chefan name or id?
21:32 Phlogi__ chefan: the name
21:32 Phlogi__ like mypage: pagefoobar
21:33 chefan yep, got that
21:33 chefan would have to look it up in the code myself
21:34 chefan if you are not pressed, ask me on monday, i think i will need that anyway by the end of the weekend
21:34 Phlogi__ gg
21:34 Phlogi__ Its not that important but would be cool....
21:35 chefan if you can't wait, put the following in your extension:
21:35 Phlogi__ I guess its in $conf
21:35 chefan should be
21:35 chefan ob_start();
21:36 chefan var_dump($this->conf);
21:36 chefan $confdata = ob_get_clean();
21:37 Phlogi__ yes....
21:37 chefan file_put_contents("dumpfile.log",$confdata);
21:37 Phlogi__ I thought of print_array from typo3.. want to test that
21:37 chefan that will put the $conf in a file and you can search it for your pagename
21:38 chefan would work too
21:39 chefan the output process is pretty complex though, so you should use the same code but replace the file_put_contents with $content .= $confdata
21:39 Phlogi__ hmm nothing in $conf
21:39 Phlogi__ hmm there was another object..
21:56 Phlogi__ how do you get the sitename in your extension?
21:57 chefan you could look in $GLOBAL
21:57 chefan beware, it's huge
21:57 Phlogi__ chefan: I already found it htere... does not work though :D
21:57 Phlogi__ $GLOBALS['GLOBALS']['TYPO3_CONF_VARS']['SYS']['SITENAME'];
21:58 chefan that should be the sitename, not the pagename
21:58 Phlogi__ nice extension btw: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/search/sg_showdoku/0.3.1/
21:58 chefan might be coincidence here that it's the same?
21:58 Phlogi__ thats ok, I need the site name too
21:59 chefan read the class.tslib_fe.php
21:59 chefan the code there should know where you find your pagename
21:59 Phlogi__ I already found it
21:59 chefan great :) where did you find it?
22:00 Phlogi__ but why does that $GLOBALS['GLOBALS']['TYPO3_CONF_VARS']['SYS']['SITENAME']; not work?
22:00 Phlogi__ in $GLOBALS["TSFE"][page][title]
22:01 chefan well, if you dumped globals from your extension, there is absolutely no reason why you should not be able to take access to it that way
22:01 chefan but i do remember that tslib_fe has some api to access environment data
22:02 chefan i am almost sure you will find something suitable there
22:02 Phlogi__ Cannot use object of type ux_tslib_fe as array in
22:05 Phlogi__ ah of course I need to do ->
22:09 Phlogi__ thats it:
22:09 Phlogi__ print_r($GLOBALS['GLOBALS'][TYPO3_CONF_VARS][SYS][sitename]);
22:09 Phlogi__ print_r($GLOBALS['TSFE']->page['title']);
22:14 Phlogi__ chefan: works like a charm now :)
22:21 guillom chefan, ok; i've completed my dump and tried to go on with my TYPO3 installation. I'm now in the "compare" step where the program compares the exinsting DB with the wanted one. It says there is a number of differences (that was expected) and he asks me to confirm the changes. There are lots of CREATE (which are enabled) and it's proposing me to "Removing tables (rename with prefix)" with lots of "ALTER TABLE nameoftable RENAME zzz_deleted_nameoftable;
22:21 guillom " those actions are disabled (not ticked). if i don't enable them, this shouldn't harm my database, right ?
22:25 guillom well, it seems it is ok :)
22:38 chefan nice :) easter and everyone's happy :)
22:39 guillom hehe
22:39 guillom it all seems to work perfectly ; that's wonderful :)
22:39 guillom thanks!
22:39 chefan de nada
23:00 guillom hmmm, admin/password doesn't work to log in to the back end; is it possible that it is different ?
23:04 guillom ok, i've find the relevant wiki page about this
23:15 guillom thanks to everyone
23:47 Soeren_Nielsen evening
23:48 Soeren_Nielsen anyone who can tell me how to set up a CASE, so I can wrap some css inside of tt_content, in a certain ColPos

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