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00:19 FloLeBlanc hi all
00:21 smeringe hi FloLeBlanc
00:21 FloLeBlanc anyone in who does know about typoscript queries and joins? :)
00:23 smeringe he...
00:23 FloLeBlanc ?
00:23 FloLeBlanc hi smeringe :)
00:24 smeringe just sounded funny Flo :P doing queries with joins and stuff solely with ts
00:24 FloLeBlanc smeringe: it is possible, though I don't know if the query I want to do is
00:25 smeringe I'm sure it's possible. still is funny.. why not do some userfunc instead?
00:26 timdeluxe someone around using eclipse?
00:26 FloLeBlanc smeringe hmm.. don't know.. less of a hassle with files
00:28 smeringe well, true maybe. but also less cumbersome.
00:29 smeringe timdeluxe: I do
00:29 smeringe (use eclipse that is)
00:31 timdeluxe smeringe: i am asking in #eclipse at the moment. i want to change the default new line behaviour
00:32 smeringe k. then I bet they can answer better then me. I'm always flirting with other editors as well so I'm never clever enough on one..
00:32 smeringe ;)
00:33 smeringe FloLeBlanc: seems quite 'straight forward' with joins.. http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/5/5/
00:33 timdeluxe ah i found it
00:35 smeringe FloLeBlanc: maybe you are über haxxor at the ts CONTENT and select objects but otherwise see this for ref http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/articles/explaining-the-content-object.html
00:36 FloLeBlanc smeringe thank you I know those links, my problem is the query I'd like to emulate is: SELECT * FROM fe_users AS r1 JOIN (SELECT (RAND() * (SELECT MAX(uid) FROM fe_users)) AS uid) AS r2 WHERE r1.uid >= r2.uid ORDER BY r1.uid ASC LIMIT 1; (almost random user record)
00:37 smeringe oh. trickier
00:37 FloLeBlanc yep :)
00:37 FloLeBlanc perhaps I have to go with the userfunc
00:38 smeringe then your either of on your own or go for a userfunc and get it solved with the above query ;)
00:38 smeringe he
00:38 FloLeBlanc well with the above query I have to consider that I have to limit the "randomness" to undeleted and visible records
00:38 FloLeBlanc ts does that for you as far as I know when you use that way
00:45 null_ hi
00:45 null_ ries: are you around?
00:45 ries about to leave actually.. but what's up?
00:45 null_ hi :)
00:45 null_ know it just middle of the day :)
00:46 null_ Do you know where typo stores the admin login in sql?
00:46 null_ i searched the be_session table
00:47 null_ i mean the loggin, not the password of the admin
00:48 ries null_: check be_users
00:48 null_ ok
00:48 ries what do you mean exactly by 'stored admin login' ?
00:49 ries I think you are ok with be_sessions.. but sure what youa re looking for
00:49 null_ if go to "log" in the backend#
00:49 null_ i get a list of times a admin has logged in, and i want to know where this is logged in sql
00:50 null_ in the be_sessions table there is an entry with the name and ip
00:50 null_ but it must be stored anywhere else, cause if i change this, after bd backup it is still there.
00:52 ries null_: there is a log table for this perpose
00:52 ries leaving now
00:53 FloLeBlanc smeringe: thank you for the input, will get some sleep now.. cya all :)
00:53 null_ i guess i found it
00:53 null_ cache_hash
00:53 null_ thank you ries
00:53 smeringe FloLeBlanc: sleep tight :) cya
00:53 null_ wish you a good night
07:26 alexmmm hi there
07:27 devcow hello
07:27 alexmmm anyone awake ?
07:31 jimknopf wonder why i get disconnected all the time
07:39 d|g hi all
07:40 foool hi all
07:48 xsebi oh lets discover whats playing cards vote...
08:13 koomi moin
08:21 alexmmm lo
08:23 alexmmm if i create a complex flexible content element, does frontend editing basically still work on all editable parts of that fce ?
08:24 alexmmm seems as if i can only edit the fce as a whole, but not the editable parts its made of.
08:24 alexmmm *wrinkle*
08:26 alexmmm ah well guess its too early in the morning
08:26 alexmmm :P
09:01 banban does anyone have manual for "ratings" extension. it is corrupted in the extension repository
09:06 alexmmm anyone knows if complex flexible content elements allow separate frontend editing of their parts ?
09:28 alexwx helo
09:29 alexmmm morning
09:29 alexwx helo, how to get the current URL with the ext. params also? with all the params in the URL
09:31 alexmmm uhm the typolink might help there, but er better check the documentation
09:38 pmk65 alexwx: In Typoscript, you can use the typolink function with the addQueryString parameter.
09:38 teppi|work good morning
09:38 alexwx pmk65 can i set it as true? OR 1 ?
09:39 pmk65 1
09:40 pmk65 There's also an extra parameter you can set, to exclude some GET/POST parameters (There's no idea in keeping the id parameter, as the typolink generates that)
09:40 pmk65 addQueryString.exclude = id,L
09:40 pmk65 http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/5/8/
09:41 alexmmm uhm can you somehow turn off content elements listed by Templavoilas add new content wizard ?
09:42 alexmmm i.e hide from the list
09:47 alexwx pmk65 thank you it looks nice
09:49 alexmmm more general question, is it possible to edit fce's inner elements directly via frontend editing ?
09:49 alexmmm or can you only edit the whole fce this way
09:55 alexwx pmk65 hey, but the exclusion doesnt work $conf['addQueryString.']['exclude'] = 'L';
10:02 pmk65 alexwx: Works for me (but I used it from Typoscript, not PHP) Do you get 2 L parameters in your URL?
10:04 alexwx pmk65 yes I get L param twice
10:04 animan hi, is there any way to disable indexing different page types? namely type=98, for printlink that doesn't need to be indexed
10:06 pmk65 animan: don't think so. But you could use conditions, and check for the TYPE parameter, then if it's 98,you turn of indexing.
10:07 pmk65 alexwx: Here's an example on how I use it from TS http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/snippets/general-config/tip-a-friend-link-generated-using-typoscript.html#c490
10:15 alexwx pmk65 hmm, otherwise i am generating language menu, is there some nice TS spippet to generate the language menu? Because i am using a php code
10:19 s-andersen Hi, I'm trying to insert an email in the RTE like mailto:(obscured mail address)?subject=Time 16:00, but TYPO3 cuts out the 16:00, then I tried %20 instead of whitespace, and that gave me a @, can someone tell me how I get a whitespace in there?
10:31 alexwx pmk65 ok but I set the uniqueLinkVars = 1, now its ok
10:31 alexwx in the config of TS
10:38 Recnelis Hey guys.. do u know how people makes thoose neat automatic dropdown lists in or flexform in Typo3 extensions? I only know the "old" method of extending tt_content and making a drop down list of options.. :/
10:42 Recnelis Second thing, should I parse things from locallang.xml through htmlspecialchars or is it a waste?
10:46 teppi|work hm we use flexform for extension options
10:48 dotx helllo
11:06 Recnelis teppi|work: Flexforms.. hmm heard a lot about em... just never looked at what they are.. I'll take a look
11:06 Recnelis Is making a template for a extension a good idea? Rather than hardcoding?
11:07 teppi|work i never worked with templates .. i think its a good option if you want to share your extension with the community ..so they can cutomize the output very easy ..
11:08 teppi|work but if you just use it on your own its not necessary i think ..
11:08 Recnelis It's actually for a company for whom I'm making a Typo3 website...
11:09 Recnelis Just wondering if it's a lot of work or fairly simple.. I've made quite a few extensions but never used the option..
11:15 alexmmm hmm how could it be that the admPanel appears at top and outside of html tags even ?
11:19 Nublaii There is a runaway cleanup process on my system, cleaning up the caches, and I can't figure out where it's coming from...
11:19 Nublaii I'm using an old 3.8.1 installation
11:20 Nublaii besides the install tool I can't think of anydefault extension that can do that...
11:20 Nublaii any ideas?
11:21 nd Anyone has a hint why my tt_news is showing me english date formatting? I have config.language set to 'de'...
11:53 Recnelis Hey guys, any idea how I force PHP to show the date in the actual site language? My site language is danish but it shows the month name in english :/
11:55 void config.locale_all = dk_DK
11:56 nd (Except that tt_news then tells me something about 04. of März grmpf...)
11:59 nd Ah, Constants...
12:06 Recnelis void: Funny enough I've already set that.. but the dates still show up in english :s
12:07 void Recnelis: are that dates everywhere or only at one extension?
12:08 Recnelis I've only got that extension with a date.. :)
12:08 Recnelis I'm making the extension myself..
12:16 Joker7680 hello! anybody got experience with writing binary image data derived from a php script into normal typo3 content?
12:17 Joker7680 i think it's just a small problem, but i cant figure it out since days. So I would be VERY VERY thankful
12:18 void can you explain the problem in detail?
12:19 Joker7680 of cource
12:19 Joker7680 -ce +se
12:20 Nublaii about that date: nd and recnelis -> plugin.tt_news.displaySingle.date_stdWrap.strftime = <span>%A</span> %e %B de %Y
12:20 Joker7680 first my system: Typo3 4.1.5 on PostgreSQL 8.2 with adodb 4.93.0 and dbal 0.9.9
12:20 Joker7680 I have bytea data stored in an external database (also postgres)
12:20 Joker7680 this is pictures for a gallery
12:21 void typo3 store all images in files
12:21 Joker7680 its an external db
12:21 Nublaii and all related objects 'displayLatest', 'displayList'
12:22 void Joker7680: so, you need to make SELECT your blob fiels, save data as files and make other manipulations your want to do...
12:23 Joker7680 $res = pg_query($query);
12:23 Joker7680 $row = pg_fetch_assoc($res);
12:23 Joker7680 $bild_bin = pg_unescape_bytea($row['bild']);
12:23 Joker7680 header('Content-Type: image/jpeg');
12:23 Joker7680 $content .= $bild_bin;
12:23 Joker7680 thats what i did
12:23 Joker7680 at first i echoed out the output
12:23 Joker7680 and it worked
12:23 Joker7680 since i know you should write content to $content I cannot get it work
12:25 void Joker7680: don't understand. what do you want to do with that bytea data?
12:25 Joker7680 just show it in the browser
12:25 Joker7680 as rescaled thumbnails
12:25 void so, write an extension..
12:26 Joker7680 then i would have the same problem
12:26 void if you don't want to convert anything, just show..
12:26 void which problem? i don't see any
12:27 Joker7680 ok, ill show you the solution that worked (but its VERY VERY ugly)
12:27 void show... use phpfi.com
12:27 Joker7680 in TS:
12:27 Joker7680 picture = HTML
12:27 Joker7680 picture {
12:27 Joker7680 value = <img src="fileadmin/scripting/lo.php?id=###WFQBE_FIELD_medium_id###" height=150>
12:27 Joker7680 }
12:27 Joker7680 in the script:
12:28 Joker7680 $res = pg_query($query);
12:28 Joker7680 $row = pg_fetch_assoc($res);
12:28 Joker7680 $bild_bin = pg_unescape_bytea($row['bild']);
12:28 Joker7680 header('Content-Type: image/jpeg');
12:28 Joker7680 echo $bild_bin;
12:28 teppi|work <void> show... use phpfi.com !!
12:29 Joker7680 never used this page
12:30 void Joker7680: ok. that is ugly, but that work.
12:31 Joker7680 so people told me that I need to improve it: 1. use $content and 2. dont use brwoser rescaling, but rescale in php and use typo3 caching
12:33 Joker7680 the easiest way would be, if it was possible to use the IMAGE-cObject ... but thats impossible because the GET-paramter then doesnt get parsed
12:34 Joker7680 I found out, that when you use HTML as cObject you can use php scripts with GET paramaters in the source of image tags
12:35 teppi|work i would write the images to the filesystem and just saving the path in the DB
12:35 teppi|work then creating an extension which creates IMAGE cObjects from the images
12:35 Joker7680 teppi: i decided not to do that for several reasons
12:36 void Joker7680: IMAGE work only with files on the filesystem. use php-gd to rescale.
12:37 Joker7680 void: and about outputting in $content? do i need header information when outputting via $content?
12:38 void what do you mean? what is a difference between $content and $bild_bin? variable name??
12:39 Joker7680 i thought $content is a typo3 thing you have to add your content to
12:39 Joker7680 when you use PHP_SCRIPT as cObject
12:39 void you don't use PHP_SCRIPT and i think you shouldn't
12:40 void anyway, PHP_SCRIPT is ugly even more than your code
12:40 Joker7680 really .. well .good to know
12:40 void if you want to do anything in typo3 way, write your own extension and use USER_INT
12:41 Joker7680 i have only send you the ugly first solution
12:41 Joker7680 my second apprach was with PHP_SCRIPT in TS
12:41 Joker7680 here the one line:
12:42 Joker7680 picture = PHP_SCRIPT
12:42 Joker7680 picture.file = fileadmin/scripting/showPicture.php?id=###WFQBE_FIELD_medium_id###
12:43 Joker7680 in fact with this second solution (PHP_SCRIPT as cObject in TS plus output to $content) I dont see anything...
12:45 Joker7680 I just ask for a clean way to just output my binary (and rescaled) picture data from an external DB
12:45 teppi|work and if you just temporarily save it in the filesystem ?
12:46 void Joker7680: if i were you, i'd make an extension.
12:46 Joker7680 teppi: I have thought about that too. But it's just not necessary
12:47 Joker7680 void: maybe I will rewrite the code into an extension .. but anyway it would be the same code in another form i guess
12:47 Joker7680 I will provide an extension for it, but i have also to use dbal for it
12:47 Joker7680 right now i do direct postgres access
12:47 void in extension you can use eID scripts...
12:48 Joker7680 sorry, I never heard of eID scripts
12:49 void eID scripts is a powerful feature to work with ajax, show pictures and so on, where you don't need the whole power of frontend
12:49 Joker7680 void: what do think about teppis suggestion to temporarily write to filesystem? I just dont seem to like that idea
12:49 Joker7680 I will google for that!
12:50 void if i were you, i will not write pictures to filesystem... it have some more power, but have problems too - syncronizing and so on. but caching.
12:50 void if speed and caching is not critical, i'll not write pictures on the filesystem
12:51 Joker7680 wait. i NEED caching
12:51 Joker7680 beacuase the pictures in the DB are big and i want to generate thumbnails and they should be CACHED
12:52 Joker7680 i thought they would be automatically chached if i use typo3 Content Objects
12:53 void yes. but typo3 CE work only with images at the filesystem.
12:53 Joker7680 CE?
12:53 void content element
12:53 Joker7680 really?
12:53 Joker7680 thats no good for me
12:54 Joker7680 are you sure about that?
12:54 void so, you can write source images to filesystem and use typo3 functions. or you can rescale images yourself and write them on the filesystem
12:54 FloLeBlanc re
12:54 void Joker7680: yes, i am sure. typo3 don't store any image data at the database
12:54 void except image filenames, of course
12:55 Joker7680 otherwise I cant get typo3 do the caching?
12:55 void hi Flo
12:55 FloLeBlanc hi void :)
12:55 Joker7680 thats no good news :-(
12:55 void Joker7680: not typo3. browser caching.
12:56 Joker7680 well I thought as long as the php script call is identical, the result would be the same and therefore be saved in the DB
12:56 Joker7680 you find this opinion in many forums
12:57 Recnelis In my extension should I parse things from locallang.xml through htmlspecialchars or is it a waste?
12:58 void Recnelis: i think you shouldn't. XML can't contain not-escaped characters like '<' i think..
12:59 Recnelis Ah.. allright.. certainly gonna clean up my code a little.. :)
13:03 Joker7680 void: i think when chaching is not available through typo3 for binary images then i should create a new field for thumbnails in the DB
13:04 Joker7680 and then just read from there without saving to filesystem
13:04 Joker7680 would you call this a clean solution?
13:05 void maybe. but anyway, you'll make an sql query for each image instead of use pass the request to apache
13:07 Joker7680 thats right: one sql query per image .. but what do you mean after "instead"?
13:08 void if you write image to filesystem, you can do no one sql query
13:08 Joker7680 which solution would you choose?
13:09 void depends
13:09 Joker7680 :-)
13:09 flops hi guys
13:09 void but generally i think that storing image data in database is bad.
13:10 void from database architecture point of view
13:10 Joker7680 why? its extremely comfortable to to backups and keep track of the "link"
13:11 Joker7680 and you can have additional fields that derive data from the binary object via trigger functions to describe it
13:11 void when you have a row, where one field is ~10Mb? database become huge, queries are slow
13:12 flops i'm writing a extension where i can add items like in tt_news (in the backend). works so far. but the list of these items under the List-module only shows the uid of these items. does someone knows how i have to edit the tca.php to show in this list the title or some other db-field of these items? like in tt_news the newstitle is shown
13:12 Joker7680 thats why i use postgres and only ollow binary data for pictures around few MB
13:14 void flops: see ['ctrl']['label'] at ext_tables.php
13:14 flops thx void
13:16 Joker7680 well thanks anyway .. I will think about it all :-) ... why cant things just be easy?
13:16 void dunno)
13:26 Randomresult hi everyone
13:26 Randomresult im searching for a TS which makes me able to display the username of an logged in user
13:26 Randomresult someone has a snippet?
13:27 void Randomresult: page.20 = TEXT, page.20.data = TSFE:fe_user|user|username
13:27 Randomresult void: great!
14:00 Recnelis Hey, how do I set the debug to be true in a BE extension?
14:00 Denyerec Hallo all
14:02 FloLeBlanc hi denyerec
14:03 Denyerec Heya flo
14:03 Denyerec I figured out the mailform captcha problem
14:03 FloLeBlanc good.. what was the problem
14:03 Denyerec submitted the issue to the bugfinder with a solutio
14:03 Denyerec n
14:03 Denyerec Mailform was looking for a $GLOBAL['conf'] var that didn't exist
14:06 nd Is it possible to tell typo3 to size images I put in as content in `em` not `px`?
14:22 Denyerec Oooh, good question
14:23 void nd: i think that's bad idea to scale all images...
14:34 FloLeBlanc anyone using mm_forum? It seems impossible for me to show the "topicicon_pinned"
14:50 SWEMark Hi, im looking to change the way realurl handles swedish charachters (å, ä, ö) and i can't seem to be able to find anything on the net. Any suggestions as to were i'd look for this?
14:54 Phlogi I get an sql error everytime I clean fe_cache. Anyone has an idea? http://pastebin.ca/929009
14:57 SWEMark Do you have access to the mysql prompt?
14:58 SWEMark Phlogi: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/packet-too-large.html
15:02 delmonico hey, got a little problem. I wrote an extension which creates some pages and content elements. however in the tv page module the CEs show up as "non-used elements" on the page and I have to create the reference manually
15:03 delmonico can't find the right place in the sql db to create the ref. from the extension code
15:04 Phlogi SWEMark: why does it only happen the first time? I mean once?
15:06 SWEMark Phlogi: that might be because the query got too long due to long time since last cache-clear
15:07 Phlogi SWEMark: hmm I don't think so... its quite strange
15:07 Phlogi would the full output mabye helpful?
15:10 Phlogi I guess its like a bug in typo3 because its quite crap what he wants to insert in db
15:12 nd void: Sure. But inline images wouldn't be that bad, aight? Navigation/decoraction not, of course
15:32 wgrider Is this a forum where we can ask questions about typo3 usage?
15:33 teppi|work its more like a chat ;-)
15:33 teppi|work but yes it is
15:33 wgrider can I ask a question about the program?
15:34 teppi|work lol
15:34 SWEMark hehe
15:34 SWEMark wgrider: Absolutely
15:35 wgrider can a complete web page be loaded directly instead of being created inside the program?
15:36 SWEMark Yes ofcourse, but that has nothing to do with typo3.
15:37 wgrider I apologize for the simple questions but I only had a 10 minute introduction to the program and was told everything had to go through the program
15:37 wgrider I dont have access other than the typo3 program interface
15:38 SWEMark First, Typo3 is CMS and not a program
15:38 wgrider yes I understand this
15:38 SWEMark ok good :)
15:39 SWEMark Everything does not have to go through Typo3
15:39 SWEMark It just depends on what you want to do.
15:39 wgrider how can I upload if my only access is the typo3 interface?
15:40 SWEMark Do you have access to the backend of typo3?
15:40 wgrider do you mean admin access?
15:41 SWEMark yes
15:41 wgrider yes I do
15:41 SWEMark Ok, in the menu, do you have an option named "File"?
15:42 wgrider with only the filelist option under it
15:42 SWEMark Yes, in it, you should be able to upload files.
15:43 SWEMark "Upload Files"
15:44 wgrider ok I see this but I only show image files here and was told this is the way that the images was uploaded but nothing about other file types
15:44 wgrider what file extensions am I limited to?
15:45 wgrider is it strictly html or do I need to find out what web server/OS is in place on the hosting server
15:46 SWEMark html is html, server doesnt matter
15:46 wgrider I should have asked differently can it handle asp pages
15:46 SWEMark Default i think your limited to all the ordinary extension, Office, HTML, Images etc
15:47 SWEMark give it a try
15:47 wgrider ok I wanted to ask because there is no test server only the production server
15:50 wgrider Thank you <SWEMark> for the help I will test out file creation and upload this way
15:58 SilenceDK Hey guys, do you know of a way to add a page generation time to my Typo3 site?
15:58 SilenceDK Like some typoscript code... I've got this feeling that it's really slow..
15:59 SWEMark Hmm, not sure
16:00 SWEMark At first id say add some phpcode to the index.php temporary
16:01 SWEMark Otherwise firebug for firefox might tell you whats taking time.
16:02 SilenceDK Hmm.. perhaps that would be better
16:47 nd Can anyone help me with this: http://pastebin.ca/929145 The ie.css is not included in internet-explorer. But the switch itself works
17:04 SilenceDK In my extension what would be the "correct" way of includeing a external lib file?
17:55 Vanesa hi
17:55 Denyerec Do you guys normally allow tables in the RTE
17:55 Vanesa anybody there who speaks german?
17:55 Denyerec or do you make the client use table elements ?
17:56 Vanesa geez qhere did all the german computer nerds go :/
18:01 Vanesa I want to install an extension called catdoc on my Indexed Search Engine
18:01 Vanesa has anyone done that here?
18:02 Vanesa it says in the handbook that I'm suppose to do this in the shell
18:02 Vanesa wget http://ftp.45.free.net/pub/catdoc/catdoc-0.94.2.tar.gz
18:02 Vanesa well download that
18:02 Vanesa and then tar xfz catdoc-0.94.2.tar.gz
18:02 Vanesa rm catdoc-0.94.2.tar.gz
18:02 Vanesa ./configure --prefix=$PWD --disable-wordview --with-wish=
18:02 Vanesa make && make install
18:03 Vanesa now the problem is, I dont know what they mean :(
18:03 Vanesa can anybody help me?
18:03 Vanesa please?
18:12 uriahhee1 void: ping?
18:12 void uriahhee1: pong
18:12 uriahhee1 void: i'm having a little trouble with date_stdWrap.strftime and the language that the date is displayed in...
18:12 uriahhee1 void: do you know how to set the proper language?
18:13 uriahhee1 displayLatest.date_stdWrap.strftime= %B %d, %Y
18:13 uriahhee1 void: that's what i have right now...
18:13 void config.locale_all = ru_RU
18:13 void or de_DE
18:13 uriahhee1 hmm, ok
18:14 uriahhee1 void: hmm, i have that set, but for some reason it doesn't work :-/
18:14 void what is your OS?
18:14 uriahhee1 ubuntu
18:14 void your server OS, i mean
18:14 uriahhee1 ubuntu ;)
18:14 uriahhee1 lol
18:15 void ok. my test server is also under ubuntu. and no problems here.
18:15 uriahhee1 hmm, strange
18:15 uriahhee1 perhaps i don't have that locale installed?
18:15 void for latest ubuntu versions all proper locales are installed...
18:16 uriahhee1 hmm, ok
18:16 uriahhee1 void: is fr_CA a proper locale? :P
18:17 void fr_CA? what is it for? never heared...
18:17 uriahhee1 french canada
18:17 void fr for France i think
18:17 void ah, canada
18:17 void quebeq?
18:17 uriahhee1 ;)
18:17 uriahhee1 yeah
18:19 void uriahhee1: what gives "locale" command?
18:20 uriahhee1 void: http://pastebin.ca/929250
18:20 uriahhee1 i guess en_CA is the only locale installed?
18:20 void uriahhee1: i think it is just active locale..
18:21 uriahhee1 hmm, ok
18:21 void i do not know a lot about linux... don't know how to list avalable locales
18:21 uriahhee1 hmm, ok
18:21 void uriahhee1: aha! locale -a
18:23 uriahhee1 void: ok
18:23 uriahhee1 void: ah, i only have en_CA and en_US :-/
18:24 void uriahhee1: so... i think, you need to install needed locale.. (i do not know how to do that)
18:24 uriahhee1 hmm, ok
18:24 void maybe, instal some *i18n-frca* package
18:25 uriahhee1 perhaps :P
18:25 uriahhee1 i'll check it out
18:25 uriahhee1 googling now ;)
18:28 uriahhee1 hmmm
18:28 uriahhee1 so i added the locale
18:34 uriahhee1 hrm....
18:34 uriahhee1 still not working
18:46 Denyerec void, uriah...
18:46 void hey Denyerec
18:46 Denyerec how much control do you give your clients in the RTE?
18:46 Denyerec I have mine locked down tight
18:46 Denyerec but I am wondering if I should allow images and table,s
18:49 void why not allow them?)
18:49 void depends on client...
18:57 Denyerec Well, I am worried they will throw all kinds of shit in there and then the page styling won't look right
18:57 Denyerec also I am nervous about images in the RTE, for some reason I don't know where they go.
18:58 Denyerec Like if someone pastes in an image, where is that image uploaded to and stored?
19:26 void Denyerec: in uploads/RTEmagick*.jpg AFAIK. but you can disable images in RTE
19:29 Denyerec do you usually disable them
19:29 Denyerec ?
19:32 void Denyerec: i do not know what is "usually" =) i rarely work with end-users...
19:33 void i write extensions, fix bugs and so on
19:37 Denyerec Ah
19:37 Denyerec Fair enough
19:37 Denyerec perhaps someone like uschi would know more about end users
19:38 uschi grats void
19:38 void hi uschi
19:40 uschi i do not even know what this eID is
19:45 Denyerec what is eID-scripts ?
19:45 Denyerec uschi - do you allow your users to paste tables and images into the RTE?
19:45 just2b fast version of typo3
19:45 void eID-script is a typo3 programming technique...
19:45 Denyerec or do you insist they use image and table content elements
19:45 uschi tables yes, images: no
19:45 void for showing pictures and generation ajax-responses
19:46 uschi with the new table editor in 4.2 this is safe
19:46 uschi just testing out the zebra tables
19:46 void just2b: did you wrote eID-scripts?
19:46 void *write
19:47 uschi void, what are eID scripts?
19:47 void uschi: > eID-script is a typo3 programming technique for showing pictures and generation ajax-responses. you saw index.php?eid=tx_cms_showpic, right? that is the eid-script
19:48 uschi ok. what does the e in eid stand for?
19:49 void uschi: don't really know. maybe, for Extension. or maybe that's like G in GNU or K in KDE
19:50 uschi hm
19:51 void if someone interested: http://forum.typo3.biz/showthread.php?t=5958
19:51 void (on russian, but code is understandable, i think)
19:53 just2b void there are enlgish pages with more info ;)
19:54 void just2b: really?) show me them)
19:55 just2b not now
20:04 Denyerec Oooh
20:04 Denyerec just2b being coy with his URLs
20:04 Denyerec ;)
20:09 just2b no i just have to work
20:28 SilenceDK In my extension what would be the "correct" way of includeing a external lib file?
20:28 SilenceDK Using a straight include or should I use some typo3 thing
20:28 just2b require_once or t3lib_div::makeInstance
20:29 just2b better last one
20:43 flops cya guys
21:24 uriahhee1 just2b: hey, do you know whether it's possible to append the proper st/rd/th to the number in a date with strftime?
21:31 just2b append what?
21:32 uriahhee1 well, like
21:32 uriahhee1 december 1st, or 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th
21:32 uriahhee1 you know?
21:32 just2b ah yeah sure
21:35 uriahhee1 just2b: hmm, and also, for some reason, in french it still shows the month in english :(
21:36 just2b so you didnt set french in config?
21:36 uriahhee1 just2b: umm, well, what do you mean? do i need to set a separate language setting for tt_news or something?
21:37 uriahhee1 page.config.sys_language_uid = 0
21:37 uriahhee1 page.config.language = fr
21:37 uriahhee1 page.config.locale_all = fr_CA
21:37 uriahhee1 that's what i have right now
21:37 just2b and the locales are on the server?
21:37 uriahhee1 yeah, i just put them on
21:37 uriahhee1 do i need to reinstall php or something for it to work, though?
21:38 just2b restart better once
21:38 uriahhee1 hmm...
21:38 uriahhee1 i restarted
21:38 uriahhee1 but it didn't change
21:38 just2b there is somewehre a script how to check.. but the locales are not loaded if not in frnech
21:39 uriahhee1 hmm...
21:39 uriahhee1 where would this script be? :-/
21:39 just2b typo3.net
21:39 uriahhee1 hmm, ok
21:40 just2b try this
21:40 just2b $loc_de = setlocale (LC_ALL, 'de_DE@euro', 'de_DE', 'de', 'ge');
21:40 just2b echo "Preferred locale for german on this system is '$loc_de'";
21:40 just2b but fill it with the fr
21:41 uriahhee1 ok
21:43 uriahhee1 just2b: Preferred locale for german on this system is 'fr_CA.UTF-8'
21:43 just2b so set this in config
21:43 uriahhee1 ok
21:43 uriahhee1 with the .UTF-8?
21:44 just2b i dont know that, sry
21:44 uriahhee1 ohhh
21:44 uriahhee1 works now :D
21:44 uriahhee1 thanks!
21:44 uriahhee1 haha
21:45 uriahhee1 just2b: how do i add the st/nd/rd/th at the end of the day, though? :-/
21:45 just2b take a look at tsref > stdwrap > strftime
21:45 uriahhee1 hmm,ok
21:57 uriahhee1 just2b: i seriously can't find it :( is it even possible?
21:57 just2b guess so
21:57 uriahhee1 ever tried? :P
21:57 just2b what again you want? ;)
21:58 uriahhee1 just2b: lol :)
21:58 uriahhee1 just2b: i want to show the date's day with st/nd/rd/th appended to it (i.e. 1st 2nd 3rd 4th) ;)
21:59 just2b is this possible with strftime
21:59 uriahhee1 i don't know :S that's what i'm asking haha
22:00 just2b check http://at.php.net/strftime
22:00 uriahhee1 and, well, in typo3, or with tt_news, how else would it be possible to format the date?
22:00 just2b with a hook
22:00 uriahhee1 hmm?
22:01 uriahhee1 what do you mean by a hook?
22:02 just2b it is a typo3 technique
22:04 uriahhee1 just2b: would i have to create a hook or use an existing one?
22:04 just2b use a existing one
22:05 uriahhee1 ok
22:08 wgrider would there be someone here that could help a newbie to typeo3 with a quick problem?
22:09 void wgrider: don't ask to ask, just ask
22:11 wgrider I have attempted to upload an htm file through the interface and when I attempt to view it does not show just a 404 error
22:12 wgrider the file shows in the filelist but not in the page view
22:12 just2b set the rights to 777
22:12 uriahhee1 or... make sure the file isn't too big?
22:12 uriahhee1 oh
22:12 uriahhee1 never mind :P
22:14 wgrider I took a file already out there and made a change and uploaded via the upload files option in the filelist and I recieive the error
22:16 nature i have a text w/image container. all the returns are being wrapped like this...
22:16 nature <p class="bodytext"><hr noshade>
22:16 nature </p>
22:16 nature where do i change that?
22:17 nature not only would i prefer it to do a <br> i'd also like to change the class
22:19 Phlogi typoscript nature
22:19 Phlogi css styled content
22:19 nature yeah i'm in the object editor
22:19 nature err... ts object browser
22:20 Phlogi jap
22:20 Phlogi search for it
22:21 Phlogi in tt_content maybe
22:25 nature maybe
22:25 nature or not :)
22:28 wgrider can files be uploaded through the interface and be visible from the browser, i tried this and i recieved a file not found any ideas?
22:29 nature click on the image file on the back end and grab the path?
22:29 wgrider are you answering my question?
22:30 nature i was trying
22:30 wgrider ok I wasnt sure, I know the path it says it cannot find the file
22:30 nature i've been uploading images all day via the backend and loading them into the front end
22:30 wgrider and the file does not show in page view
22:31 wgrider this is an htm file not an image
22:31 nature oh
22:31 wgrider I asked on here earlier and they said it should work that they have done it that way
22:31 nature well... i'm still mostly clueless at this point
22:32 wgrider unfortuneately so am I
22:32 wgrider is there anyone here that might have an answer?
22:33 nature you know that's one of the bestest parts about typo3
22:33 nature there's so many of us that are totally clueless we have a lot of company
22:34 just2b lol is that a good thing?
22:34 wgrider oh now thats a warm fuzzy
22:35 nature sure.... it means we all have a ton of empathy for each other and are at times perhaps more likely to offer clueless help :)
22:38 wgrider does anyone here upload htm files via the filelist?
22:39 nature i do... i just clicked on one of my html files that i uploaded via fileadmin
22:39 nature and it opened a new window
22:40 nature showing the file
22:40 wgrider when I do this I recieive file not found, I even get this when i type in the direct path
22:41 nature that's odd
22:41 wgrider any ideas?
22:42 nature i just tested by uploading a css file to my fileadmin/template/main dir and then clicked it and it viewed the file in the browser
23:33 uriahhee1 what the hell
23:33 uriahhee1 why the hell isn't this news plugin working? :-/
23:33 uriahhee1 settings are exactly the same as another that is working.......
23:38 Denyerec static templates?
23:40 uriahhee1 Denyerec: nope
23:45 chefan oh stop complaining :D
23:45 void anyone have a legal windows here? =)
23:45 chefan if typo3 was easy, or worse: calculable, people wouldn't pay you so much for working with it
23:45 chefan i do
23:45 void Denyerec: do you?
23:46 void IE8b1 is out
23:46 void and don't want to work under wine
23:46 chefan don't usually use it
23:46 chefan well
23:46 void i want to see screenshots =)
23:46 chefan if that is a plea to download the admin distro, i won't
23:47 OliverThiele i have more than 1 wintendo licence
23:47 OliverThiele i this important for TYPO3 users ? ;)
23:47 void OliverThiele: no =)
23:47 chefan i killed my system once because i didn't follow my principle to wait with m$-updates until the problem reports drop to a manageable daily amount
23:48 void OliverThiele: but i think someone may download IE8 and test the typo3 backend, for example
23:48 chefan well, it could be
23:48 OliverThiele i can do this, maybe @work
23:48 chefan as far as i read, m$ will try again to implement w3c conformity
23:49 Denyerec Yes void
23:49 Denyerec Mine's legit
23:49 Denyerec I happen to have a friend at Redmond who got me a copy cheaply
23:49 chefan in the meantime, "inventing" a new "standard" for backward compatibility to broken products
23:49 Denyerec chefan who is talking ?
23:49 OliverThiele in germany the systembuilderlicence is also cheap
23:49 Denyerec I feel like I have someone on ignore...
23:50 Denyerec Ahhh yeah
23:50 Denyerec the IE8 beta
23:50 Denyerec heh
23:50 Denyerec Good luck with that one.
23:50 chefan Denyerec: i was still refering if IE8 could be of importance to typo3 users
23:51 Denyerec Yeah but who is talking ?
23:51 Denyerec I see you, void and OliverThiele
23:51 Denyerec anyone else participating ?
23:51 void Denyerec: and that's all
23:51 chefan and since it is a viewport on what you are offering with typo3, it could be interesting to know how you have to rewrite your templates to make it look ok in IE8, if any
23:51 Denyerec Ahh ok good.
23:52 chefan apart of you, no one
23:52 void i saw screenshots IE8 passing ACID2 test
23:52 void 13/100 for ACID3
23:52 chefan yep, that was the goal
23:53 chefan personally i think m$ should get out of the browser business
23:53 chefan they didn't manage to release just one stable and standard compliant product since the existance of the world wide web
23:53 void i want to know... do we have to make one more template - IE6,IE7,IE8,(FF||Opera||Safari)
23:53 chefan that's not so impressive
23:53 chefan there is the point
23:54 Denyerec Wow
23:54 Denyerec Acid3 test crashed Opera
23:54 chefan but you might look at browsershots.org, if they already have IE8 in the list
23:54 void Denyerec: which version?
23:54 Denyerec Latest
23:54 Denyerec 9.25
23:54 Denyerec actually
23:54 Denyerec when I reloaded, it got to 46
23:55 void Denyerec: for me, acid3 also crash Konqueror 3 and Konqueror 4
23:55 void (don't have safari because don't have Mac)
23:55 Denyerec LOL firefox gets to 50
23:55 void FF2?
23:56 void or FF3?
23:56 Denyerec 2
23:56 void so, FF4 will pass it =)
23:56 void the best results give night builds of webkit
23:58 chefan rats, i am so over that crappy fighting with standards and whatever shabby browser the user is using
23:58 nd_ ;)
23:58 chefan welcome to www.mysite.com/welcome.TXT
23:58 chefan hmm
23:58 chefan or even better
23:58 chefan www.mysite.com/index.pdf
23:59 chefan thanks for calling, foad
23:59 titii hello
23:59 nd_ Na, just tell people to request informations by snail mail or fax
23:59 chefan for geeklogs, any SQL dump would do
23:59 nd_ lol
23:59 chefan for elitists, a binary log
23:59 titii how to get the URL address down to the root of typo3 site? "index.php"

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