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00:44 kreegee somebody here?
00:45 kreegee could it be that ve_guestbook numbers the entry vice-versa
00:45 kreegee ?
00:45 kreegee newest one is 1.
00:45 kreegee *entries
00:54 Awillys kreegee: do think it's possible without change in codes
00:55 kreegee probably it's timtabs error
00:55 kreegee it's just strange
01:23 dokma Phlogi_: I was on a picnic and a party after it. Dog tired. You still here?
01:23 dokma I can't get salsa out of my head
01:24 Phlogi_ dokma: humm?
01:24 Phlogi_ ah ok
01:24 Phlogi_ dokma: drop your life .D
01:24 dokma I saw you pinged me today
01:24 dokma yeah, I should just play D&D all day in the basement
01:25 dokma that would be much easier to handle
01:25 dokma I've got a few pics
01:25 dokma wanna see ?
01:26 Phlogi_ lol yes
01:26 Phlogi_ do you have an idea why I can't upload my ext to TER?
01:27 Phlogi_ Access denied.
09:38 koomi moin
09:39 swemark morrn
09:46 teppi|work dobroi djen
09:51 dokma hello peeps
09:51 dokma good to see you all
09:51 dokma 10AM here
09:52 micheee Good morning! anybody knows how to disable the automatic link detection feature of the rte?
09:53 swemark micheee: thats typolink
09:53 swemark tnot rte
09:53 swemark not*
09:53 micheee ok; but how do i tell typolink not to autolink http://look-at-my-cups-server
09:54 micheee because it removes the http, so all users following the guide will mess up
09:54 swemark ok maybe its rte
09:54 swemark oh
09:54 swemark it removes just http://?
09:54 micheee well it comes out:
09:55 micheee <a href="look-at-my">http://look-at-my">look-at-my
09:55 micheee if it kept the http it would be fine as well =)
10:24 kraftb Hi Denyerec !
10:24 kraftb I just sent you an email ...
10:24 kraftb hi everyone else ! :)
10:27 micheee hi kraftb :)
10:27 kraftb hi ! :)
10:29 kraftb *ups*
10:29 kraftb sorry ... Denyerec ... still a mistake in the pdf
11:22 dot1 hello guys
11:30 natalie hey
11:30 natalie I've installed typo3, but it didn't create any tables in the database
11:30 natalie although it did create the database
11:39 natalie how can I have it create the tables still?
11:39 koomi natalie: go to the install tool, database anaylizer (?) and import the tables there
11:41 natalie thankyou koomi
11:48 micheee perhaps somebody now know a soolution to my problem ;-):
11:48 micheee Good morning! anybody knows how to disable the automatic link detection feature of the rte?
12:09 Phlogi_ anyone has an idea why my emails to (obscured mail address) go to nowhere?
12:10 swemark Phlogi_: Any ideas on how i use i diffrent databse than mysql?
12:25 gerards swemark: you can ask Ries when he gets in here. he's done it before.
12:26 swemark cool
12:26 swemark ty
12:26 Phlogi_ swemark: no, why would one do that? :)
12:27 Phlogi_ the mail server says the following: http://pastebin.ca/1004813
12:27 gerards swemark: Phlogi_ does ask a very good question.
12:27 gerards why would one do that?
12:27 Phlogi_ hehe :)
12:29 gerards I personally am not a huge fan of mysql, but stiilllllll....... :)
12:29 swemark gerards: just trying
12:30 swemark Phlogi_: Like your not a trysexual...
12:31 Phlogi_ ^^^^^
12:38 Phlogi_ they seem to have problems with their mail servers
12:39 Phlogi_ ah i just registred again and it works :)
12:42 pa hey folks ;) could anyone give me a little support on cwt_community?
12:42 Phlogi_ pa: just ask!
12:43 pa i think i configured cwt_co... according to the manual, but if i change data of an user, the records in the db aren't updated...
12:50 pa dumb question?
13:06 Phlogi_ pa: hmm dunno.. you update in fe?
13:07 Phlogi_ there are no warning or errors?
13:08 pa phlogi: exactly... :|
13:10 pa the whole thing seems to be allright, but it isn't; and due to i'm not a t3-pro yet i have no clue where to look for errors first...
13:22 swemark ries wake up!
14:03 foool which calendar is good and esy to set up?
14:05 kreegee cal
14:05 kreegee cal is the de facto standard
14:12 foool okay thanks
15:02 swemark ries get back to work!
15:06 swemark Hey Felyza
15:06 Felyza Allo
15:07 swemark How may i help you?
15:07 Felyza Typo3 sure has a higher learning curve than other cms's I've used before...
15:07 swemark Hehe
15:08 swemark Higher application curve aswell :)
15:08 Felyza Any chance you know how to turn on extended messages so that I can debug the authentication process?
15:08 swemark In the install-tool under All Configureation theres a option "sqlDebug"
15:08 Felyza When I try to log in, I ge tthe standard invalid message
15:09 Felyza The ONLY time I get login working is when I turn on autologin after confirmation using the sr_register ext
15:10 Felyza Both standard and 'new frontend login box' spew an error at me
15:17 Felyza Sigh, turned on sql messages, they aren't displayed, added my ip to dev mask, nothing, turned on debug log, nothing
15:28 ries hey swemark what's up?
15:37 swemark heya
15:37 swemark diffrent database than mysql
15:38 swemark rumours (gerards) say that you have come through
15:39 void hi all
15:40 swemark And while im at it, you ought to implement a search-function for rvt_eggdrop
15:40 void Denyerec: you here?
15:40 swemark hey void
15:41 swemark ries :)
15:45 Felyza swemark, nothing I'm doing had gotten debug displayed, i even set mask to *
15:45 swemark Felyza: what extensions are involved?
15:48 Felyza full list of what I have, or just relating to login?
15:48 swemark related to login
15:50 Felyza newloginbox, sr_feuser_register, realurl, static_info_tables, div2007 (last 3 affect sr_feuser_register)
15:51 swemark hmm
15:51 swemark ive never set up a login
15:51 swemark but im sure void have
15:52 Felyza installed, but not loaded/enabled are naw_single_signon and jm_pubcookie
15:53 Felyza it would help me to see error messages, but I'm getting nothing, with all options on
15:54 Felyza DB Check reference index is 'perfect', database relations show about 25 errors, and I can't figure out how to fix them
15:55 Felyza Regarding relations, its bugged that there's no way to use relations information
15:55 Felyza (For reference, http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=4309)
15:55 Denyerek void ?
15:55 Denyerek what's up
15:58 void Denyerec: need your help on rewording again
15:59 amrun hey u guys
15:59 Denyerek ok
15:59 amrun can anybody tell me how i get it to work that headers of a simple text-content-element are wrapped with a h1?
15:59 void amrun: afaik, they are wrapped in <h1> by default
16:00 amrun ant if somebody knows what the heck the difference / purpose for the "content" and "styles.content" in "include static" and the "css_styled_content" in "include static (from extensions)" is... that would be magnificent!
16:01 void Denyerec: what can mean "grain of the wood"? "grain" have a lot of meanings
16:01 amrun hm yes but only if i include css-styled-content. but then, the text-w.image elements are not working correctly anymore (eg. position of the image in the text)
16:01 Denyerek Right
16:01 Denyerek you know when you look at a peice of wood
16:01 Denyerek there's a pattern ?
16:01 Denyerek and that pattern flows one way
16:02 Denyerek such as, along a floorboard
16:02 Denyerek (typically from the bottom to the top of the tree)
16:03 swemark Laters!
16:03 void Denyerec: aha, i understand..
16:03 void Denyerek: thanks
16:04 Denyerek thus, if you are cutting "against the grain" you are going perpendicular to it
16:04 Denyerek that would be cutting a tree down, cutting across a floorboard, etc.
16:04 void amrun: the usual way is to work with css_styled_content. this is included at "include static from exts"... "content" is outdated
16:04 Denyerek The expression in English for someone doing something difficult, or typically unconventional, is to say "He is going against the grain"
16:07 void in russian, we use "against hair" in case "hair" is a cats' hair or so...
16:08 amrun @void: oke. but as i said, if i include css_styled_content the positioning of the images is not working correctly anymore :S
16:09 void amrun: it should work correctly... or maybe you did some strange changes in your css..
16:09 void or Ts..
16:10 amrun i'm about to say that my scripts are fine, which they probably are not ;)
16:11 amrun i did not specifiy anything in the css about the picture stuff. the strange thing is, that the positioning works automatically as soon as i remove the css styled content thingie
16:12 void amrun: if you remove css styled content, you will not get any content at all
16:12 amrun of course i do.. i just dont get content if i remove styles.content
16:12 void if you did not use CONTENT on tt_content manyally, of course
16:12 amrun i sure used "styles.content.get" in my TS...
16:13 amrun should i use something else instead?
16:14 void amrun: styles.content.get is added by CSC.
16:14 void if you remove CSC from your TS, it should stop to work
16:14 amrun csc?
16:15 amrun ok lessay i include ONLY the css_styled_content (without the content and style.content)
16:16 amrun what do i have to do to get the content? because style.content.get isnt working anymore
16:16 void CSC - css styled content..
16:16 void amrun: styles.content.get
16:16 amrun and what about the "content" and "style.content"?
16:17 void amrun: as i know, they are both too old, outdated and not maintained
16:20 amrun HA great!
16:20 amrun works fine.. looks like i shot in my own leg. (as ever, and as excpected ;) )
16:20 amrun i... errr..... sort of cleared the css styled content stuff in my TS.. sorry d00d
17:04 foool I have installed cal - and set all up - when I create an event it doesn't show - but if i set the reacurrence to once a week it shows, but it is just a one day event. Anything I am missing?
17:09 Felyza A few hours later, and still can't get login authentication working... and still no debug messages.
17:11 Felyza void: swemark said you know login/authentication, you free at all?
17:11 Fanty Hi! I'm developing extensions and so far I've been using die() to crash on errors. I was wondering if TYPO3 doesn't have some error system build in I could use for my extensions that perhaps could log/make backtraces/etc?
17:12 void Felyza: i wrote some auth. services some time ago. what is your case? auth. service? or default login? frontend or backend?
17:13 Felyza FE, can't get login working at all
17:13 void Fanty: you can install xdebug php extension on your server..
17:14 Fanty void: typo3 doesn't have anything to handle errors already?
17:14 void Fanty: it will make your debug output really beatiful. also, you can use xdebug with connection of PDT (eclipse php module)
17:14 Fanty buildin I mean
17:14 void Fanty: you can use t3lib_div::debug or just debug(). but usually it's not so beatiful
17:15 Felyza void: I set PID of user archive correctly in constants, sr_feuser_register works fine and if set to login after confirmation works, if logged out, can't log in again
17:15 void Felyza: which loginbox do you use? what is your version of T3?
17:15 Felyza T3 is newest stable, using newloginbox
17:15 Fanty void: I'd like something permanent for fatal errors (ie. some content editor manages to use a plugin on a page without and manages to give it invalid data somehow)
17:16 void Felyza: newest stable is 4.2.0 which makes newloginbox not needed anymore. use system extension felogin. also, do you use kb_femd5pw?
17:16 Felyza no
17:17 void Fanty: don't understand..
17:17 Felyza Oh, new version came out in last week, I'm on 4.1.6
17:19 void Felyza: did you set up newloginbox properly?
17:20 Felyza AFAIK yes
17:22 Fanty void: like, a very basic example would be a content editor adds an extension (plugin) to a page which requires a valid TemplaVoila template - however the user manages somehow to not specify the id of the template thus the content element cant render and needs to crash.
17:23 void Felyza: re-check anything twice. fe_user should be enabled, should be placed at needed folder and so on. re-check the fe_user password. newloginbox is developed for too long to just not log you in
17:24 void Fanty: tt_news crash with a beatiful help screen... look at them
17:27 Fanty void: "tt_news configuration error What to display: ....." ?
17:28 void Fanty: yes
17:28 Fanty thats an entire template for that error and not something standard :)
17:29 Fanty thats going a bit overboard for the errors I wish to guard against. Most should never be able to happen but the checks are there just in case anyway to make it more solid
17:30 Felyza void, i've checked all of that several times in the last day, using various guides, wiki, and docs. updating to 4.2 now in hopes it was something obscure broken for me
17:45 Phlogi_ if I have javascript in my extension, how would you do the translations in there? With markers? Or just generate/write the js code in php?
17:51 air|work markers, if u write it with php, a designer has no chance to change it
17:53 Phlogi_ air|work: so you would put the whole js in a template?
17:53 air|work if its not too big, right
17:54 Phlogi_ the typo3 documentation says I should use: $cObj = t3lib_div::makeInstance("tslib_cObj"); instead of php's "new", but how can I pass values to my class constructer with $cObj = t3lib_div::makeInstance()?, I'm now using: new tx_myext_controller($this->conf, $this->_GP);
17:55 void Phlogi_: t3lib_div::makeInstanceClassName
17:55 Phlogi_ void: huu?
17:56 Phlogi_ oh
17:56 air|work Phlogi_: god bless the reference http://doc-typo3.ameos.com/4.1.0/classt3lib__div.html#b22409f64c07806cc42e29f0a931eab9
17:56 Phlogi_ yes but I don't see how to pass it
17:57 Phlogi_ ah then I use new on the string returned
17:57 air|work u got it
17:58 Phlogi_ not completely I think
17:58 air|work whats unclear?
17:59 void but personally i think that makeInstance* stuff is just repairing php problems. xclass is awful way to extend something
17:59 void i never use makeInstance() in my private extensions
17:59 air|work new t3lib_div::makeInstanceClassName('<my loved class name>')('<my loved parameters>'); // should work :/
18:00 Phlogi_ then I do some ugly thing like: $string = t3lib_div::makeInstanceClassName('foobar').'($myFoo,$bar); bla = new $string;?
18:00 Fanty air|work: yes please :)
18:00 void air|work: as i remember, ()() is not allowed at php, does it?
18:00 Phlogi_ its ugly ;)
18:00 Fanty nope
18:00 Phlogi_ a ' is missing though
18:01 Fanty but then ...('class','param1','param2', ... )
18:01 Phlogi_ Fanty: at makeInstance?
18:01 void Phlogi_: $class = t3lib_div::makeInstanceClassName('tx_spameggs'); $obj = new $class($spam,$eggs);
18:01 air|work does someone has a working example?
18:01 Phlogi_ void: ok :
18:02 Fanty make instance instantiates it already dosent it?
18:02 Phlogi_ its ugly though... that gives me xclass functionality?
18:02 Fanty its kinda in the name
18:02 Phlogi_ Fanty: not classname
18:02 Phlogi_ Fanty: I mean not that function
18:03 Fanty ahh
18:03 Fanty Phlogi_: but still, I'd like it down to one line
18:05 Phlogi_ maybe like this new t3lib_div::makeInstanceClassName('tx_spameggs').($foo,$eggs);
18:07 Phlogi_ nope does not work
18:08 Phlogi_ what void posted works.... but in one line... no idea
18:09 void Phlogi_: there is no way to do that in one line. that is weakness of PHP, not you nor typo3
18:09 Fanty I'm just using $obj = t3lib_... ; $obj->init($params); for now
18:10 Phlogi_ how do I pass a reference to the class creating the object?
18:10 Fanty void: the implementation in t3lib could just have supported arguments to use with the constructor?
18:10 void Fanty: do you how difficult it is?
18:11 Fanty void: if nothing else then just one parameter if its because its too difficult...
18:11 Fanty then it would be possible to give the constructor an array with the parameters needed
18:12 Fanty anyways I'd better go home.. its getting late :)
18:14 Felyza void: Status update, upgraded to 4.2, using felogin, logged in fine, going to test making new users now (wonder what I broke before)
18:14 void Felyza: good news
18:20 Phlogi_ typo3 4.2 is great and ff3 is awesome :)
18:21 air|work final fantasy 3? :>
18:26 Felyza void: ok, new problem, no right click menu in the list page/list/etc views
18:26 Felyza void, also, when creating a new page, no means to add a new element
18:27 void Felyza: what is "no means"?
18:28 void Felyza: as i know, right click was only at pagetree all the time
18:30 Felyza I assume something was broken, logging out and in again corrected it (someone else had the issue too, but they were a few pages in on my google search)
18:31 void ctrl+f5, maybe?
18:31 void ff cache stylesheets, etc
18:41 Felyza So close, so far. Almost working, confirmation email is not confirming now. (Otherwise I'm gold)
18:48 void Felyza: do you have last version of sr_feuser_register ?
18:51 Felyza yes, just double checked
18:55 void Felyza: maybe, check the BT
18:59 Felyza void, I think I'm missing something, I don't understand where to place something... http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/sr_feuser_register/2.5.9/view/1/6/#id3835315
19:02 Felyza Am I to place that ..."f']['realurl'] = --here?--'a:3:{s:10"... (in localconf.php)
19:03 void Felyza: what? show that line on phpfi
19:05 Felyza paste whole line? or what i'm assuming it should look like
19:06 void both
19:08 Felyza http://phpfi.com/314087
19:09 Felyza Based on what I am reading in the manual for sr_feuser_register relating to realurl
19:09 void Felyza: you use pre-configured realurl... uncheck that option in its settings
19:09 void in EM
19:12 Felyza Unchecked option.. would that be the right placement of the code given in the manual?
19:13 void yes
19:20 Felyza Well, putting that bit in killed my site, glad I have an open ftp connection
19:22 Sak1 wich is the best way to add rel into an a-tag?
19:25 koomi Sak1: depends where? in tmenu it would ATagParams
19:30 void Sak1: use ATagParams at typolink
19:31 void oops
19:31 void i am late
19:31 koomi void: didn't know atagparams was a typolink property
19:32 void hm.. i am not sure too =) i do not remember TSRef letter by letter
19:34 maholtz but is it easy to have an look: http://wiki.typo3.org/TSref/typolink
19:55 lucasthurston Does anyone know how to show/hide options in the access menu on tt_content and pages record? The specific problem is I'm missing -- not sure why -- the "hide at any login" select option for access fields in both those tables in an install of 4.1.5. Must be a tsconfig config thing I can do, but I figured I'd probe here as well.
19:57 lucasthurston The only tsconfig modifications I've made are RTE config stuff, and default page ownership stuff using TCEMAIN.permissions { userid = 2 ... }
20:21 lucasthurston Found my problem: an extension called imgmar_accessctrl removes the options I want
23:07 Felyza Anyone mind taking a look at my realurlconfig?
23:08 Felyza All I am getting is .com/(UID)/ and renaming tx_srfeuserregister_pi1[(cmd or hash)] don't rename
23:12 Felyza http://phpfi.com/314162, examples of what I'm getting at the end, should anyone feel like taking a look
23:30 Phlogi__ does that work? $RootPID[$_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']] never seen Felyza
23:32 Phlogi__ for every default post var set you should have one single getVar afaik
23:33 Phlogi__ Felyza: http://phpfi.com/314167
23:33 Phlogi__ like ^^^^ for srfeuserregister_pi1
23:34 Phlogi__ and I guess there are some comas missing
23:36 Felyza As per the various guide's I've read say, it is supposed to work (no difference with or without it, but the author said it worked)
23:39 Felyza No difference with your version.
23:40 Phlogi__ strange
23:40 Phlogi__ does realurl work for anything?
23:47 schwaiger hi there
23:47 schwaiger can someone help me with templa voila fields
23:48 schwaiger is there a whay to acces my fields within ts like {field:my_field} ?
23:52 Felyza Not that I am aware of, though instead of /index.php=xx, I'm getting /xx/
23:53 Felyza Comment directed to Phlogi
23:56 schwaiger cant someone help with my field problem

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