| 00:04 |
Felyza |
Phlogi, the 'trick' for hostname is mentioned in the http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/RealURL |
| 00:14 |
Felyza |
Sigh, this is by FAR the hardest CMS I've ever set up. I sure wish the documentation were better. |
| 00:29 |
Denyerec |
Heh |
| 00:29 |
Denyerec |
Felyza - it gets everyone like that first time. |
| 00:36 |
Felyza |
The worst part is I spent 12 hours on getting login working, trick was updating to 4.2, now I'm what, 8 hours on RealURL with zero progress |
| 00:36 |
Felyza |
I've had 3 people tell me what I have is right, and it just plain doesn't work. |
| 00:39 |
mosez |
how can i access template voila vars within typoscript? |
| 00:39 |
mosez |
eg within a menu object |
| 00:43 |
Felyza |
I can TRY on this one (newbie here), using <TypoScriptObjPath>lib.mainMenu</TypoScriptObjPath> from the TV data structure, I reference "lib.mainMenu = HMENU\nlib.mainMenu.1 = TMENU\nlib.mainMenu.1 {" in the template record |
| 00:43 |
mosez |
or another question... if i add a field to the pages table, how can i edit it within the page properties? |
| 00:47 |
Denyerec |
Login? |
| 00:47 |
Denyerec |
as in fe_login? |
| 00:47 |
Denyerec |
or just the normal be login |
| 00:47 |
mosez |
was it for me? |
| 00:49 |
Felyza |
Deny, if that was directed at me, I tried the normal login (from 4.1.6) and newloginbox, all settings correct, wouldn't log in. Updated to 4.2, and using fe_login, it worked. |
| 00:50 |
Denyerec |
Ah you're trying to do fe_login |
| 00:50 |
Denyerec |
hh |
| 00:50 |
Denyerec |
hr |
| 00:50 |
Denyerec |
quite a tricky little bitch for a complete beginner. |
| 00:50 |
Denyerec |
macmade loginbox is probably the easiest one to get working |
| 00:50 |
Felyza |
Actually, fe_login was a snap |
| 00:50 |
Denyerec |
Heh, it gave me pain. |
| 00:50 |
Denyerec |
Tho I haven't tried it on 4.2 |
| 00:50 |
Denyerec |
(WIth fe_login) |
| 00:50 |
Felyza |
Somehow though, newloginbox, and original 4.1.6 login were complete busts |
| 00:50 |
Denyerec |
I tried it some 8 months ago |
| 00:51 |
Felyza |
mosez: check out http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_ftb1/1.0.1/view/1/3/#id3043088 |
| 00:52 |
mosez |
felyza: that doesnt help me because i can not access the tv vars within the menu object on typoscript |
| 00:53 |
mosez |
i have added a field to the pages table, i can access it within typoscript. but how can ich edit it on page properties? |
| 00:59 |
Felyza |
mosez: sorry, that's best I can do. I'm new myself, and I used that section of the docs to make a custom 3 layer menu system, using a menu, sub, and subsub menu object |
| 00:59 |
Felyza |
Denyerec: how fluent are you in RealURL? |
| 00:59 |
Denyerec |
Not very |
| 00:59 |
Denyerec |
I can get it to work |
| 00:59 |
mosez |
the menu itself works... but i need the rel="facebox" attribute to get a main menu section as something like a lightbox |
| 01:00 |
mosez |
and the rel="content" i want to put to the extra pages field |
| 01:01 |
mosez |
generating the menu is no problem, but edit it on page properties is the problem... |
| 01:02 |
Felyza |
mosez: I assumed page properties was in the script, which i've been doing in the template record.. beyond that, i'm still very new to typo3 myself |
| 01:02 |
Felyza |
Deny: if you can get it to work, you're better off than I... any chance you're capable of telling me where I broke it? http://phpfi.com/314180 |
| 01:04 |
mosez |
felyza: try this config, it worked for me http://typo3.fruit-lab.de/typo3-seo/typo3-extensions.html |
| 01:06 |
Denyerec |
What error do you get Felyza |
| 01:06 |
Denyerec |
I always install aeurltool and use the default config from that, then just set rootpage ID to an integer (not a variable) and get going. |
| 01:11 |
mosez |
slowly i begin to believe that my question could be to difficult for the most |
| 01:11 |
mosez |
or the fact is that typo3 is not flexible enough for a really big website... |
| 01:12 |
Denyerec |
mosez - do you have a HTML mockup of your meny? |
| 01:12 |
Denyerec |
*menu |
| 01:13 |
mosez |
html mockup? |
| 01:13 |
Denyerec |
Yes |
| 01:13 |
Denyerec |
an example of the HTML you wish to genereate |
| 01:13 |
mosez |
what does it mean? |
| 01:13 |
mosez |
ah, ok... one moment |
| 01:16 |
mosez |
http://nopaste.info/46672b0e12.html for some menu items like link4_5 i need the rel="facebox" attribute |
| 01:16 |
mosez |
everything else works fine |
| 01:17 |
mosez |
for the rel="" value i have defined a new pages table field. but i dont know how i can implement the formfield for the tables field within the page settings |
| 01:18 |
mosez |
i want to have a pulldownbox on backend for none, facebox and lightbox... but dont know how |
| 01:19 |
Denyerec |
So the sublinks get a custom attribute? |
| 01:19 |
Denyerec |
do-able |
| 01:19 |
mosez |
for example, yes |
| 01:19 |
Denyerec |
but not with me being this tired. |
| 01:19 |
Denyerec |
I can try and help you over the weeked |
| 01:19 |
Denyerec |
but I gotta slepe |
| 01:20 |
Felyza |
mosez, I tried the german site's setup, only changing root page number, nothing. denyerec, urltool shows nothing, realurl management doesn't show any aliases |
| 01:20 |
mosez |
got a hint for me? |
| 01:20 |
Denyerec |
mosez - i can't think straihgt |
| 01:20 |
Denyerec |
been trying to get mootools woking for 18 hours |
| 01:20 |
Denyerec |
so, I must sleep |
| 01:20 |
Denyerec |
optionsplit and field: are your friends. |
| 01:21 |
mosez |
thx, i will google |
| 01:21 |
mosez |
gn8 |
| 01:21 |
Felyza |
night deny |
| 01:21 |
Felyza |
thanks for the attempt at help |
| 01:22 |
Denyerec |
Your realurl thing again I can look t atomoroeow |
| 01:22 |
Denyerec |
no use to anynone now |
| 01:22 |
Denyerec |
bug me tomorow and give me a login ad I'll take a look |
| 01:23 |
Felyza |
I have got to missing something REALLY dumb. EVERY setting, even when exactly to the T in docs, guide, wiki, archines, does not work. |
| 01:23 |
Felyza |
Drop the ", even" out of that, I'm tired myself |
| 01:30 |
Felyza |
Its dinner time then nap time ... |
| 02:13 |
nomatter001 |
hi |
| 02:13 |
nomatter001 |
I have a question about the backend configuration for fe-plugins |
| 02:13 |
nomatter001 |
is it possible to have a java plugin displayed there |
| 02:14 |
nomatter001 |
like i can make normal input fields with flexforms |
| 02:14 |
nomatter001 |
i wannt to include a applet |
| 02:14 |
nomatter001 |
all other stuff is done by the applet i just want to display it in the backend config for the fe-plugin |
| 02:21 |
nomatter001 |
any possible solution for that |
| 02:22 |
synthetic |
hey, hello |
| 02:23 |
synthetic |
Just a question: is it possible to append content via typoscript? |
| 02:24 |
nomatter001 |
synthetic: appen conent to what? |
| 02:24 |
synthetic |
in the template on the top I want to have a global text comming from a different page (this part is done) and a navigation must be added beneath this text |
| 02:26 |
synthetic |
http://pastie.caboo.se/190825 |
| 02:26 |
synthetic |
line 5 |
| 02:27 |
synthetic |
sorry, 35 |
| 02:28 |
nomatter001 |
35? |
| 02:28 |
nomatter001 |
there is no line 35 here |
| 02:28 |
synthetic |
agr, I just shortened the code |
| 02:28 |
synthetic |
line 20 now |
| 02:30 |
nomatter001 |
won't it work if you just create a sepperate comment for that part (so that you have a seperate subpart?) |
| 02:31 |
synthetic |
mh, I have a three column layout, left: subnavigation, mid: other Navigation, right: content |
| 02:32 |
synthetic |
Now just one subpart of the website has a bit content above the middle column |
| 02:32 |
synthetic |
mh, I could add an additional Mark to the Template. A kind of poor solution ^^ |
| 02:32 |
nomatter001 |
just make a span with a id for it |
| 02:33 |
nomatter001 |
synthetic: i think its the standard way you do it in typo3, but i'm no expert |
| 02:33 |
synthetic |
it's the same as my idea, right? i don't use template voilà |
| 02:33 |
synthetic |
k, thanks |
| 02:33 |
nomatter001 |
synthetic: yea then just a mark is needed |
| 02:34 |
nomatter001 |
i don't think thats that bad |
| 02:34 |
synthetic |
but there is no possibility to append content to an existend mark twice? |
| 02:34 |
synthetic |
programatically |
| 02:35 |
synthetic |
*existent |
| 02:36 |
nomatter001 |
synthetic: as i said i don't know any, but i'm no expert in typo just working sometimes with it |
| 02:37 |
nomatter001 |
and waiting for a answer for another question |
| 02:54 |
synthetic |
it works |
| 07:14 |
xsebi |
good mornin |
| 09:30 |
foool |
the fe edit input template looks odd - the submit buttom is in the body area and if you type into the body text the box doesn't grow. I looked at the template but haven't a clue as to what to change in there, plus there are a load of templates. Any ideas? |
| 09:30 |
foool |
Ahh!! the cal extension duh!!! me |
| 10:33 |
nomatter002 |
hi |
| 10:33 |
nomatter002 |
is it possible to include a java-applet into the edit-configuration for a frontend plugin? |
| 10:33 |
just2b |
not with 1 line i guess |
| 10:33 |
nomatter002 |
like i can make normal input-boxes with flexforms i would need a java-applet included |
| 10:34 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: that's not neccessary |
| 10:34 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: just need any way, mustn't be flexforms |
| 10:35 |
just2b |
what do you wanna do with the applet? |
| 10:36 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: it just calls a php file (in the subdirectory of the ext.) for uploading stuff |
| 10:36 |
just2b |
there is already a mass uploader if you dont know |
| 10:36 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: o really let me look |
| 10:37 |
just2b |
but not for plugin but for filelist... otherwise take |
| 10:37 |
just2b |
http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_api/4.1.0/view/4/2/#id3661765 |
| 10:37 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: if it fits my needs that would be great but furthermore i also want to know how to solve that problem (just for knowledge) |
| 10:38 |
nomatter002 |
does that uploader support that in the browse dialog i can select e.g. 20 pics and all get uploaded? |
| 10:38 |
nomatter002 |
or do i have select each seperately? |
| 10:38 |
just2b |
its dragndrop |
| 10:38 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: yea but from where? |
| 10:39 |
just2b |
explorer |
| 10:39 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: not exactly what i'm looking for cause furthermore the java-applet compresses the pictures |
| 10:39 |
just2b |
so use the link |
| 10:40 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: does that compressing at client? |
| 10:40 |
just2b |
is the applet available btw? |
| 10:40 |
just2b |
this is to include into the settings what you wanna do.. |
| 10:40 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: no not now |
| 10:41 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: you don't think its simpler to simply include that applet? |
| 10:41 |
just2b |
this is simple |
| 10:42 |
nomatter002 |
yea but isn't it possible to just get a code like <applet ...> .... </applet> into the be? |
| 10:42 |
nomatter002 |
i think it should be possible to do |
| 10:43 |
just2b |
no this is not possible, you just need 5 lines more |
| 10:43 |
nomatter002 |
just2b: ok thx |
| 10:43 |
just2b |
and please share the applet when you are finished |
| 10:44 |
nomatter002 |
yea thx |
| 10:48 |
nd___ |
I wonder, to upload an extension to the TER it has to be licensed under the GPL. But what about extensions for/from a company? As long as it's not published is fine to have non-gpl-extensions? Or is it like with libraries, that you're not allowed to `plug` a non-GPL-ext into the GPLed mothership? |
| 10:51 |
just2b |
nd___ every ext which uses an function is GPL |
| 10:51 |
just2b |
there is no way out |
| 10:51 |
just2b |
you base work on GPL, your work is GPL |
| 10:51 |
nd___ |
Right, fine. |
| 10:51 |
just2b |
that still doesnt mean that you need to publish the ext in ter or somehwere else |
| 10:51 |
nd___ |
Just wanted to make sure because we have to sell that to our employe... It's just the way I understood it |
| 10:52 |
nd___ |
Yeah, but if the ext is GPLed anyway, we will publish... or I hope we will be allowed to publish :) |
| 10:52 |
just2b |
if you sell an ext, it is of course still gpl and you need to give the sources too |
| 10:53 |
nd___ |
sell was like in `tell`... |
| 10:53 |
just2b |
which is usually the case automatically with an ext ;) |
| 10:54 |
nd___ |
I'm aware of the normal procedures with open source and GPL, I just wanted to know if an ext ist considered like a library... |
| 10:54 |
just2b |
there is no non-gpl ext |
| 10:55 |
nd___ |
Thanks |
| 10:55 |
just2b |
just if you embed something in your ext which works without typo3 too |
| 10:55 |
just2b |
than of course |
| 10:55 |
just2b |
e.g. an own flash application |
| 10:55 |
nd___ |
Won't happen :) |
| 10:55 |
just2b |
so if you just once call t3lib_div or include pibase in your fe plugin > it is GPL ;) |
| 10:55 |
nd___ |
Personally I'm all in favor of GPL/BSD publishing... but my company is, well, different. |
| 10:56 |
nd___ |
They don't get the concept yet. |
| 10:56 |
just2b |
yeah it is always a bit more difficult for companies and non-openminded people ;) |
| 10:56 |
just2b |
say > to use it > they need to pay 2k and 500€ / year, they are happier ;))) |
| 10:57 |
just2b |
give aways 80% of the money for TYPO3 and keep the 20% ;) |
| 10:57 |
nd___ |
Weird as it is I thought about that and many more weird schemes... but they simple have to choice of having extensions specialized for their stuff or not. |
| 10:57 |
nd___ |
s/choice/choose/ |
| 10:58 |
nd___ |
Thanks alot for the talk, I gotta go now... |
| 10:58 |
just2b |
take care |
| 10:58 |
nd___ |
dito |
| 12:03 |
foool |
what would cause an error like this in backend third column when I try to put the ext in page |
| 12:05 |
just2b |
like what? |
| 12:14 |
foool |
hi i was trying to install it again error is TYPO3 Fatal Error: Extension key "advCalendar" was NOT loaded! (t3lib_extMgm::extPath) |
| 12:15 |
foool |
you are such a patient guy georg :) |
| 12:22 |
just2b |
so ext advcalendar is not installed |
| 12:27 |
Denyerec |
Hey just2b... you might well be just the person I need |
| 12:28 |
just2b |
wanna send me some $$$ ? |
| 12:28 |
just2b |
;) |
| 12:28 |
Denyerec |
If I actually had any, you know I would |
| 12:28 |
Denyerec |
but there's not much spare out of a $10k p/a job |
| 12:31 |
Denyerec |
Anyyhow, I'm using mootools to code up an interface. |
| 12:31 |
Denyerec |
I have a selectbox that is upodated every 0.5 seconds from the state of a peice of hardware |
| 12:32 |
Denyerec |
However if someone changes the selectbox, the state of the hardware needs to change. |
| 12:32 |
Denyerec |
The problem is if someone opens the selectbox and waits, the selectbox jumps to the hardware value, interfering with the user. |
| 12:32 |
Denyerec |
My idea was to "lock" the control from updates if the user interacts with it, but it's proving more troublesome than I thought. |
| 12:33 |
Denyerec |
(Browser OnEvents are..... a bit shit) |
| 12:33 |
just2b |
set the select to disabled="disabled |
| 12:33 |
Denyerec |
If I do that, the user won't be able to set a new value with it. |
| 12:33 |
Denyerec |
See the web interface needs to reflect the current state of the hardware, but the state of the hardware can also be changed on the hardware itself. |
| 12:34 |
Denyerec |
So if someone adjusts the transmit freq. on the hardware, the browser needs to reflect that (Hence the 0.5 sec updates) |
| 12:35 |
dokma |
hey guys! |
| 12:40 |
dokma |
op: you Bernhard ? |
| 12:46 |
op |
no |
| 12:49 |
SilenceDK |
Hey guys, do u have any Typo3 4.1.5 -> 4.2 upgrade guide? |
| 12:49 |
nomatter001 |
hi |
| 12:49 |
nomatter001 |
i now tried to add userfunc to TCA |
| 12:49 |
nomatter001 |
but doesn't work |
| 12:50 |
nomatter001 |
i'll paste the code maybe you can tell me whats wrong |
| 12:50 |
nomatter001 |
http://pastebin.com/m1b774799 |
| 12:51 |
nomatter001 |
this is in ext_tables.php of my extension (i did nothing else do i need to?) |
| 12:54 |
dokma |
SilenceDK: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Upgrade#Upgrade_to_4.2 |
| 12:54 |
dokma |
might be for you |
| 12:59 |
SilenceDK |
dokma: It doesn't say anything about what should be backed up and such |
| 13:00 |
dokma |
SilenceDK: well backup everything |
| 13:00 |
dokma |
it's a minute anyway |
| 13:00 |
SilenceDK |
after that, just upload the new src? |
| 13:00 |
dokma |
yes |
| 13:00 |
dokma |
update the symlink |
| 13:00 |
dokma |
and run the database update |
| 13:01 |
SilenceDK |
The symlink? |
| 13:01 |
dokma |
is your site on linux or windows? |
| 13:01 |
SilenceDK |
I've uploaded the typo3 src manually last time... - Never did anything to the symlink.. |
| 13:01 |
SilenceDK |
Linux.. hosted |
| 13:01 |
dokma |
well usually there are 2 folders |
| 13:01 |
dokma |
one is for the site |
| 13:01 |
dokma |
and another for the source |
| 13:02 |
dokma |
I have a symlink from the site folder to the source folder |
| 13:02 |
dokma |
so when I upgrade I just download and unpack the new source |
| 13:02 |
dokma |
and modify the symlink to point to the new source |
| 13:02 |
dokma |
I don't know how you arranged your installation |
| 13:04 |
SilenceDK |
I just downloaded the dummy and src |
| 13:04 |
SilenceDK |
and then uploaded it.. did nothing else... |
| 13:13 |
Denyerec |
Silence from just2b... Not good. |
| 13:36 |
SilenceDK |
Denyerec: Not good? How come? |
| 13:36 |
SilenceDK |
I've just never known better to be honest |
| 13:36 |
Denyerec |
I asked Just a question and he went quiet |
| 13:36 |
Denyerec |
that usually means it's bad. |
| 13:37 |
SilenceDK |
lol.. I thought u wanted to say something to me :) |
| 13:52 |
Phlogi__ |
just2b: you there? |
| 15:40 |
tsrepadmin |
anybody got an idea why i can't upload files from frontend in my own extension? the $_FILES is just empty after uploading. |
| 16:37 |
uschi |
hi folks |
| 16:38 |
uschi |
heeeeelp: how can i convince a menu of type special = directory to use the title field and not the navTitle? |
| 16:39 |
void |
uschi: .special is not related with that |
| 16:39 |
uschi |
hm, somehow it seems to be |
| 16:39 |
uschi |
anyway, how can i explicitely tell that damned menu to not use the navTitle? |
| 16:40 |
void |
it should not use navTitle by default |
| 16:40 |
void |
show your ts code |
| 16:40 |
uschi |
found it, void |
| 16:41 |
void |
=) |
| 16:41 |
uschi |
NO.stdWrap.data = field:title |
| 16:41 |
uschi |
stdWrap was missing *grumbles* |
| 16:41 |
uschi |
now i will go and fight $TCA |
| 16:42 |
uschi |
mind you void, before i asked that question here i was trying to find out why my TS did not work for half an hour |
| 16:42 |
uschi |
btw void? what do russians use for the label home? |
| 16:43 |
void |
home in "home page" phrase? |
| 16:43 |
uschi |
yes, as you would use it in your main menu |
| 16:43 |
Ruudi |
hello |
| 16:43 |
uschi |
hello Ruudi |
| 16:43 |
Ruudi |
how's life? |
| 16:44 |
void |
uschi: ";02=0O AB@0=8F0" for "home page" or just ";02=0O" for "Home" |
| 16:44 |
uschi |
the shorter one, thx :-))) |
| 16:44 |
void |
uschi: can you give me a link to site you're building? |
| 16:44 |
Ruudi |
oh porucky you govoryte zdez |
| 16:45 |
void |
uschi: cause i'm now head of typo3 russian translation team, i maybe can help somehow =) |
| 16:45 |
uschi |
that is pronounced glawnaja, void? |
| 16:45 |
uschi |
somehow? |
| 16:46 |
void |
uschi: find the not-correct translation, etc) |
| 16:46 |
uschi |
what? |
| 16:46 |
Ruudi |
i should contact with latvian and lithuanian teams, got several FE translations, list is probably right place to do it? |
| 16:46 |
uschi |
i am unsure about this letter here: 2 |
| 16:46 |
void |
uschi: simple... [glavnaja].. not sure how i can write that |
| 16:47 |
uschi |
ok, works out void |
| 16:47 |
uschi |
english v sounds like german w |
| 16:47 |
void |
Ruudi: yes... team.translation.general |
| 16:47 |
Ruudi |
thnx |
| 16:47 |
uschi |
Ruudi are you Lithuania? |
| 16:48 |
uschi |
labas |
| 16:48 |
void |
uschi: russian have one letter both both v and w... more like v |
| 16:48 |
Ruudi |
nah Estonia, but did a site that evolves all baltic languages |
| 16:48 |
uschi |
ic :-) |
| 16:48 |
Ruudi |
and got translations for mm_forum and login and registration and so on |
| 16:48 |
uschi |
to both of you |
| 16:49 |
void |
Ruudi: cool. maybe you need to find someone to sponsor such big job? |
| 16:50 |
Ruudi |
it's all sponsored already, client did the translations actually, and just FE as they don't need BE translations right now |
| 16:50 |
void |
ah.. clear |
| 16:51 |
Ruudi |
btw has any of you seen or done something like show tt_news article list by author? |
| 16:52 |
void |
Ruudi: there was an extension for that |
| 16:52 |
void |
something like tt_news authors or so |
| 16:53 |
Ruudi |
author relations i found but wasnt quite that, thought maybe it would be possible tui use TS and news search functionality |
| 16:55 |
uschi |
does news have an own table for authors, Ruudi ? |
| 16:56 |
void |
Ruudi: yeah.. TS is powerful, but i think authors should be an a separate table.... maybe in tx_party tables |
| 16:56 |
uschi |
void, some more russian pls |
| 16:56 |
void |
uschi: ask) |
| 16:56 |
uschi |
Navigation (used in skiplinks) |
| 16:56 |
uschi |
as a headline |
| 16:57 |
void |
02830F8O |
| 16:57 |
void |
but maybe i can find more suitable word.. |
| 16:57 |
void |
need context |
| 16:57 |
uschi |
i will explain |
| 16:58 |
uschi |
on each page there is a headline above all menus |
| 16:58 |
uschi |
you could say menus as well |
| 16:58 |
Ruudi |
nah tt_news author is in article table |
| 16:59 |
uschi |
then you could use CONTENT with select in TS? |
| 16:59 |
Ruudi |
there is tagcloud that can do keyword search maybe I could use it as a author list generator |
| 17:00 |
uschi |
ah, sure you have to find the list of authors first |
| 17:00 |
uschi |
do you understand what i mean, void? |
| 17:00 |
void |
uschi: so.. maybe " 02830F8O" is the right word |
| 17:00 |
Ruudi |
mhm i'll check it out thnx for the ideas |
| 17:01 |
uschi |
ok, and now Jump to navigation |
| 17:01 |
uschi |
as short as possible |
| 17:01 |
uschi |
to navigation is what i have in english |
| 17:01 |
void |
5@59B8 : =02830F88 |
| 17:01 |
uschi |
merci, is this formal or informal |
| 17:02 |
void |
formal |
| 17:02 |
uschi |
thx |
| 17:02 |
void |
np) |
| 17:02 |
uschi |
any way to say the same thing both formal and informal? |
| 17:04 |
uschi |
an now i need skip/jump to content, void |
| 17:04 |
void |
this is not too formal, i think.. |
| 17:05 |
void |
uschi: 5@59B8 : A>45@68<><C or ?5@59B8 : >A=>2=>9 G0AB8 |
| 17:05 |
uschi |
that is long |
| 17:05 |
void |
russian is usually longer than english |
| 17:05 |
uschi |
so is german |
| 17:06 |
void |
german is usually longer than russian =) |
| 17:06 |
uschi |
ok, now "Search" as a noun |
| 17:07 |
void |
some time ago i tried to translate "read-only" to russian. and the shortest phrase i invent was "?@574=07=0G5==K9 B>;L:> 4;O GB5=8O" |
| 17:07 |
void |
uschi: " >8A:" |
| 17:07 |
uschi |
next one: Jump to toolbox |
| 17:08 |
void |
what is "toolbox" in your case? |
| 17:09 |
uschi |
a header for search, language choice, login and so on |
| 17:10 |
void |
uschi: it's difficult... can you give a link? |
| 17:11 |
uschi |
http://cms.uni-erfurt.de/en/zentrale-einrichtungen/language-center/ |
| 17:11 |
uschi |
switch off the css |
| 17:12 |
uschi |
otherwise you will not see those skiplinks |
| 17:12 |
uschi |
they are mainly for screenreaders |
| 17:13 |
uschi |
somethign is wrong with these skiplinks anyway but lets stick to the vocabulary |
| 17:15 |
void |
uschi: " 5@59B8 : 8=AB@C<5=B0<", maybe |
| 17:16 |
uschi |
ok, next one is You are here |
| 17:17 |
uschi |
for breadcrumbs, void |
| 17:17 |
void |
uschi: there is no common translation for breadcrumbs... |
| 17:18 |
uschi |
i know, but this You are here: |
| 17:18 |
uschi |
do you not use that in Russian? |
| 17:20 |
void |
uschi: the word "breadcrumbs" itself can be translated as "E;51=K5 :@>H:8", but that word will understand only those who build websites |
| 17:20 |
void |
uschi: "You are here:" is translatabled, "K 745AL:" or "K =0E>48B5AL 745AL:" |
| 17:21 |
uschi |
what is the difference between those two? |
| 17:23 |
void |
first is shorter... brief and informal |
| 17:23 |
void |
second is longer and more formal |
| 17:23 |
uschi |
fine, so i use that one |
| 17:24 |
uschi |
Toolbox as headline |
| 17:26 |
void |
uschi: =AB@C<5=BK |
| 17:26 |
void |
not so find word, but i cannot find better |
| 17:26 |
void |
*not so fine |
| 17:27 |
uschi |
yeah, had the same problem in german |
| 17:28 |
uschi |
now the one for first published |
| 17:28 |
uschi |
no capital at the beginning pls |
| 17:28 |
void |
ah, maybe, "?0=5;L 8=AB@C<5=B>2" |
| 17:29 |
void |
and "just to toolbox" -> "?5@59B8 : ?0=5;8 8=AB@C<5=B>2" |
| 17:29 |
void |
*jump |
| 17:29 |
uschi |
thx |
| 17:30 |
uschi |
last update(d) |
| 17:30 |
void |
=5402=> 87<5=Q==K5 |
| 17:30 |
void |
or |
| 17:30 |
void |
=5402=> >1=>2;Q==K5 |
| 17:31 |
uschi |
which one is better? |
| 17:32 |
void |
need context again. is that about "last updated articles" or "article last update"? |
| 17:32 |
uschi |
article last update |
| 17:32 |
void |
?>A;54=55 87<5=5=85 |
| 17:33 |
uschi |
merci |
| 17:33 |
uschi |
now we need Main menu as a headline |
| 17:33 |
void |
;02=>5 <5=N |
| 17:34 |
void |
or 3;02=>5 <5=N, if you don't want capital letters) |
| 17:34 |
uschi |
i want one here, because it is a headline |
| 17:35 |
uschi |
and now submenu as headline (with capital letter) |
| 17:36 |
uschi |
@ void |
| 17:36 |
void |
>4<5=N |
| 17:37 |
uschi |
Perhaps it is worth while to make an ext for this kind of vocabulary |
| 17:37 |
uschi |
void: Change language |
| 17:37 |
void |
!<5=8BL O7K: |
| 17:37 |
uschi |
with capital |
| 17:37 |
uschi |
thx |
| 17:38 |
uschi |
void: more (no capital) |
| 17:38 |
uschi |
for those more links |
| 17:38 |
void |
again... where is that "more"? |
| 17:39 |
void |
more links = 4>?>;=8B5;L=K5 AAK;:8 |
| 17:39 |
uschi |
no, not 'more links' but more ... about some subject (after a teaser) |
| 17:40 |
uschi |
http://dev.datenwolken.de/index.php?id=154 like here, where you read 'mehr' |
| 17:41 |
void |
one sec... |
| 17:42 |
void |
?>4@>1=55 |
| 17:43 |
uschi |
void: Next page |
| 17:43 |
void |
!;54CNI0O AB@0=8F0 |
| 17:44 |
uschi |
and now 'Previous page' |
| 17:44 |
void |
@54K4CI0O AB@0=8F0 |
| 17:45 |
uschi |
and last but not least: Table of Contents |
| 17:45 |
void |
uschi: btw, you can look at tt_news locallang files... a lot of some common messages are translated carefully at tt_news |
| 17:45 |
void |
uschi: !>45@60=85 |
| 17:45 |
uschi |
ok, but currently i have no news installed |
| 17:46 |
uschi |
but i will, good idea |
| 17:46 |
uschi |
the german translation sometimes is awfull |
| 17:46 |
uschi |
and there are tons of mistakes for general BE |
| 17:47 |
uschi |
thx, void :-)))) |
| 18:14 |
uschi |
void? do you have a tip for me? |
| 18:14 |
uschi |
in my menus i would like to differenciate at least between intenal and external pages |
| 18:34 |
titii |
Hi guys, whats new? |
| 18:45 |
uschi |
hey titii, nihil novi sub sole |
| 18:46 |
crisb2010 |
hi there |
| 18:46 |
crisb2010 |
is it possible to fill the description tag of every page automagically with the first 160 chars of the sites content? |
| 18:46 |
void |
uschi: i am here now |
| 18:47 |
uschi |
great, void |
| 18:47 |
uschi |
with my menus, there is one remaining issue |
| 18:47 |
void |
crisb2010: yes, that's possible. |
| 18:47 |
void |
crisb2010: but i am not sure that that's good idea |
| 18:47 |
void |
uschi: which one? |
| 18:48 |
uschi |
if i have the doktypes 1,77 (a special one in my case) and the one for external URL |
| 18:48 |
uschi |
how could I reflect those two in my menues |
| 18:49 |
uschi |
means one class for the internal ones and one for the external URL? |
| 18:50 |
crisb2010 |
void: do you think this will have any disadvantages? |
| 18:50 |
uschi |
understand what i want to achieve, void? |
| 18:50 |
uschi |
crisb2010, what do you think the advantages should be? |
| 18:51 |
crisb2010 |
you'll get some sort of teaser in the google serps. otherwise there is always the same description |
| 18:51 |
uschi |
let me have a look, there was something about the description being part of the content |
| 18:52 |
uschi |
in terms of SEO |
| 18:53 |
uschi |
I think the for SEO the text of the description has to be different from the text |
| 18:53 |
crisb2010 |
i am not a seo expert but know it looks kind of strange in the serps. because the description is always the same for every result |
| 18:53 |
crisb2010 |
so you think it would be better to fill them by hand? |
| 18:53 |
uschi |
yes, but what happens if you leave the description empty altogether |
| 18:53 |
void |
uschi: use a stdWrap.preCObj = CASE with .field = doktype |
| 18:54 |
uschi |
hmmm |
| 18:54 |
uschi |
where should that stdWrap.preCObj go? |
| 18:54 |
crisb2010 |
uschi: thats a good question ... i have no clue :) |
| 18:54 |
uschi |
child of NO etc? |
| 18:55 |
void |
uschi: yes... NO.allWrap.preCObj, maybe |
| 18:55 |
uschi |
google then takes the first few lines of text |
| 18:55 |
uschi |
but that only works out well if your content comes before the menus |
| 18:56 |
uschi |
i have rewritten the csh for the description field, i will look it up there |
| 18:57 |
uschi |
crisb2010 : Note: Some search engines only use the description if the text is not found elsewhere in the content. So do not just repeat yourself. |
| 18:58 |
uschi |
when i wrote the context help i read some seo stuff |
| 18:58 |
uschi |
ok, i shall give it a try |
| 19:46 |
uschi |
guggugs koomi |
| 20:42 |
Ruudi |
http://paste-it.net/public/rdf9b8d/ -- could anyone check maybe a little TS trying to get news authors from tt_address table but no luck, BE works ok but nothing displayed in FE |
| 21:34 |
Felyza |
Denyerec or void, you around? |
| 21:34 |
void |
around |
| 21:35 |
Felyza |
void, feel like helping me with realurl today? Was at it 10 hours yesterday to no avail, tried 2 pitchers for inspiration last night, and still nothing in 8 hours today. |
| 21:36 |
void |
i am not realurl guru at all |
| 21:36 |
Felyza |
The ONLY thing I've gotten it to do is change /index.php?=10 into /10/ |
| 21:37 |
Ruudi |
realurl can be painful sometimes |
| 21:37 |
Ruudi |
but have got it working most of times |
| 21:43 |
Felyza |
Ruudi, feel free to check it out http://phpfi.com/314326 |
| 21:43 |
Felyza |
I can't for the life of me figure out what's broken |
| 21:44 |
Felyza |
I'vw tried the docs, wiki, archives, tutorial sites (thanks babel for letting me read more of them)... and can't get realurl working |
| 21:45 |
Ruudi |
your base url is correct? |
| 21:45 |
Ruudi |
config.baseURL = http://www.mysite.com/ |
| 21:45 |
Felyza |
All references to "mysite" so actually say my correct url |
| 21:45 |
Felyza |
*do |
| 21:45 |
Ruudi |
ok |
| 21:45 |
Ruudi |
asking just in case :) |
| 21:46 |
Felyza |
I have security set to bare minimums and debugging masked to *, so avoiding putting it out there |
| 21:48 |
Felyza |
I've tried setting realurl to autoconfig, and it changes nothing from what I'm getting, and according to aeurltool and realurlmanagement, realurl assigns no aliases for anything |
| 21:49 |
Ruudi |
http://phpfi.com/314327 |
| 21:49 |
Ruudi |
that's how my basic realurl settings look like |
| 21:50 |
Ruudi |
been done my realurl confs mostly based by default and copypaste from net works out sofar, not skilled enough to debug one :( |
| 21:51 |
Felyza |
default and copy/paste isn't working for mine |
| 21:51 |
Felyza |
And no, I didn't toy with any of the source |
| 21:52 |
Felyza |
At least its good to hear it *should* be right, now if only I knew why it isn't working |
| 23:18 |
webdeamon |
hello |
| 23:19 |
webdeamon |
i need some help with type |
| 23:20 |
webdeamon |
typo |
| 23:28 |
Felyza |
ask and someone might help |
| 23:29 |
void |
Felyza: he left out too quick |
| 23:29 |
Felyza |
I noticed right after I typed it |
| 23:29 |
Felyza |
Sigh, I'm still unable to get my realurl stuff working. |
| 23:30 |
Felyza |
Since it's been a few hours since I last asked for help, http://phpfi.com/314326 |
| 23:31 |
Felyza |
RealURL doesn't work beyond renaming /index.php?=10 to /10/ |
