| 00:37 |
snoy_ms |
hey all |
| 00:38 |
snoy_ms |
i need to know where typo3 saves the extension keys when i install a new extension |
| 00:38 |
snoy_ms |
one ext. fu***s up and now i have to delete it by hand. I did it a month ago, but i forgot the filename. |
| 00:38 |
snoy_ms |
was it the localconf ? |
| 00:42 |
ries |
snoy_ms: yes it is.... |
| 00:42 |
snoy_ms |
ok i found it...puuhhh |
| 00:44 |
snoy_ms |
Just for the log: delete extension in $TYPO3_CONF_VARS['EXT']['extList'] out of the localconf and delete the temp* files in the typo3conf |
| 00:44 |
snoy_ms |
everything fine now... |
| 01:01 |
chefan |
lol on UP time |
| 01:02 |
chefan |
Russ Meyer's UP!-Time |
| 01:02 |
chefan |
ries: people want it up, but not locked ;) |
| 01:07 |
ries |
:) |
| 01:09 |
oxygen-a1dict |
chefan: centos is exactly s/RHEL/CentOS/g |
| 01:10 |
oxygen-a1dict |
that's their goal: build a linux distro from the RHEL Sources to be binarycompatible with RHEL |
| 01:15 |
chefan |
thanks for the confirmation, i didn't have that much RHEL experience to be completely sure |
| 01:15 |
chefan |
so that means they equally suck, just that RHEL sucks more expensive |
| 01:17 |
oxygen-addict |
yeah, the money seems to be a reason to name it CENT os ;) |
| 01:17 |
chefan |
why the hell don't we have a spanish fork then called PesOs? |
| 01:17 |
chefan |
would be way cooler |
| 01:18 |
chefan |
plus even cheaper |
| 01:19 |
oxygen-addict |
well, because everbody would think that an OS called Pesos would just have as much future as the pesos? |
| 01:21 |
chefan |
even less future as the dollar? |
| 01:22 |
chefan |
and besides, it was in europe that the recession was declared recently :) |
| 01:22 |
chefan |
but sounds like a good fools day project |
| 01:22 |
oxygen-addict |
well the dollar is not yet dead... |
| 01:23 |
chefan |
PesOs, lightweigt RHEL compatible distro with purely spanish language support and preconfigured server siesta :) |
| 01:23 |
oxygen-addict |
"why did you start a new distribution?" "because I wanted to use the cool name PesOs for something" |
| 01:23 |
chefan |
i know, it will never be as long as there are arms available to defend it :) |
| 01:23 |
chefan |
well, i think that's a valid reason, or not? |
| 01:24 |
oxygen-addict |
sure |
| 01:24 |
chefan |
there are people who intended to launch a PHP based application server just to use Beer3 as a working title, so what? |
| 01:25 |
chefan |
and they don't give a shit that a lot of people think that PHP and Application Server are contradictive in terms |
| 01:26 |
oxygen-addict |
beer3 sounds like homeBREW ;) |
| 01:26 |
chefan |
no really, the idea is way cool. lets fork Minix to build PesOs as some kind of low footprint "Open Source Enterprise Minix" |
| 01:27 |
chefan |
runs in your keyboard if need be |
| 01:29 |
oxygen-addict |
pesos could stand for pervert enterprise server operating system |
| 01:30 |
oxygen-addict |
I would not base it on minix, try Hurd as Kernel |
| 01:30 |
oxygen-addict |
once it's released it will be the best OS ever! |
| 01:38 |
oxygen-addict |
i'm going to sleep now. Good fight and good night. |
| 02:25 |
ries |
oxygen-addict: they still work on hurd??? |
| 10:22 |
nd____ |
ries2: From time to time they work on hurd... it's said to get released next month! |
| 10:22 |
nd____ |
(continuing the myth) |
| 10:22 |
nd____ |
And Duke Nukem Forever will run on it... |
| 11:47 |
HardPhuck |
lol |
| 11:47 |
HardPhuck |
i'm just reading the night chat log :) |
| 15:14 |
dokma |
hi guys |
| 15:15 |
dokma |
anyone got a feel for how buggy 4.2.3 is? |
| 15:15 |
dokma |
is it any better than 4.2.2 |
| 15:15 |
ShadowHunter |
never had any problems with 4.2.3... should be better than 4.2.2 ;) |
| 15:21 |
dokma |
ShadowHunter: how much have you used it? |
| 15:21 |
dokma |
in production |
| 15:22 |
ShadowHunter |
3 oder 4 sites using 4.2.3.. why? |
| 15:24 |
ShadowHunter |
4.2.3 was AFAIK just a bugfix release |
| 15:35 |
HardPhuck |
dokma the last number is for bugfixes only |
| 15:35 |
HardPhuck |
the second number is for features |
| 15:35 |
HardPhuck |
so 4.2.3 is always better than 4.2.2 |
| 15:37 |
RoyalKnight |
HardPhuck: depending on what is needed - in 4.2.2 there was a password-field bug e.g. |
| 15:38 |
RoyalKnight |
and in 4.2.2 there are old icons in the filebrowser |
| 15:38 |
RoyalKnight |
so visually 4.2.2 was not better than 4.2.1 ;) |
| 17:02 |
pulponair |
hi there |
| 17:42 |
n-regen |
is it possible to create a submenu for each item in a tmenu in typoscript? |
| 17:46 |
HardPhuck |
what do you mean? |
| 17:48 |
n-regen |
my situation is like this: i have a tmenu in a <div>-container and want to add a javascript-command to all the items of this (main-)menu, which shows another <div> containing the sub-items of the menu-item you just moved your mouse onto |
| 17:49 |
HardPhuck |
yeah that can be done |
| 17:49 |
n-regen |
can you tell me how, please? |
| 17:50 |
HardPhuck |
where are the second level items |
| 17:50 |
HardPhuck |
i mean in the html |
| 17:50 |
HardPhuck |
in the div or somewhere else |
| 17:51 |
HardPhuck |
what will js do? |
| 17:51 |
n-regen |
<body> ... <div id="subitem001">anything</div> ... <div id="main-menu">[items]</div> ... [content] </body> |
| 17:52 |
n-regen |
one of the sub-items: |
| 17:52 |
n-regen |
<div style="left: 81px; top: 84px; visibility: hidden;" id="topicmenu1" class="menu"> |
| 17:53 |
n-regen |
and one of the items in the main-menu: |
| 17:53 |
n-regen |
<li class="menuButton"><a class="menuButton" href="http://www.schulen.rosenheim.de/igg/539513974c0bb6203/index.html" onmouseover="menuTouch(event, 'topicmenu1');">Aktuelles</a></li> |
| 17:55 |
HardPhuck |
hmm... |
| 17:55 |
n-regen |
when you move your mouse over the main-menu-item, menuTouch() will make the sub-item visible |
| 17:55 |
n-regen |
and that sub-item has sub-items on his own |
| 17:57 |
HardPhuck |
could you paste the output html that you would want to have this is pretty confusing |
| 17:57 |
n-regen |
output of typo3 when opening the page or my example html-file i made the template out of (at least i try to) |
| 17:57 |
n-regen |
? |
| 17:58 |
HardPhuck |
your example that works without typo3 |
| 17:58 |
HardPhuck |
what kind of menu is this |
| 17:58 |
n-regen |
http://www.schulen.rosenheim.de/igg |
| 17:58 |
HardPhuck |
drop down? |
| 17:58 |
n-regen |
es |
| 17:58 |
n-regen |
i mean: yes |
| 17:59 |
HardPhuck |
omg don't do that |
| 17:59 |
HardPhuck |
there are better ways to achieve this stuff |
| 17:59 |
HardPhuck |
easier too |
| 17:59 |
n-regen |
this is the website of my school and i have to translate it into a typo3-template |
| 18:00 |
HardPhuck |
yeah but can you modify the xhtml or not |
| 18:00 |
n-regen |
i downloaded the website i can edit it locally |
| 18:02 |
HardPhuck |
http://www.ffa.uni-lj.si/ |
| 18:03 |
HardPhuck |
check the sources here |
| 18:20 |
n-regen |
ok, now i know how i works. but how can i use it in my typo3-template? |
| 18:20 |
HardPhuck |
so first you need to modify them html |
| 18:24 |
n-regen |
you mean, generate a menu like this? |
| 18:24 |
HardPhuck |
http://paste.phlogi.net/-44e210816f/ |
| 18:25 |
HardPhuck |
here is the TS for the whole site |
| 18:25 |
HardPhuck |
that i pasted before |
| 18:25 |
HardPhuck |
it's pretty well comented so it shouldn't be hard |
| 18:26 |
HardPhuck |
check line 341 |
| 18:26 |
HardPhuck |
for the main menu and how it's made |
| 18:27 |
n-regen |
will i have to include the js and css from that university-site? |
| 18:27 |
n-regen |
or is it enough to use the typoscript you posted? |
| 18:28 |
HardPhuck |
you can include, but you will learn more if you try and do it yourself |
| 18:28 |
HardPhuck |
i can send you the js and css if you want to |
| 18:28 |
n-regen |
yes, please |
| 18:29 |
nd____ |
.oO(Is that comic sans for the menu!?) |
| 18:31 |
HardPhuck |
http://www.ffa.uni-lj.si/fileadmin/templates/FFA/js/js.zip |
| 18:32 |
HardPhuck |
or remove the js.zip and you will see the whole folder |
| 18:48 |
ckoehler |
anyone here familiar with the EM object in typo3? |
| 18:49 |
ckoehler |
with the xmlhandler and stuff? |
| 18:49 |
n-regen |
now i have a menu structured like on the university site, but no dropdown-menu |
| 18:53 |
n-regen |
what must i do to make a menu out of that list? |
| 19:04 |
n-regen |
HardPhuck: how can i use that menu? |
| 19:06 |
HardPhuck |
is the outputted html like the on in univeristy site? |
| 19:12 |
samek |
hm how can i _implement_ search for tt_products.. |
| 19:12 |
samek |
with default tt_product i have problems viewing single product |
| 19:12 |
samek |
any suggestions? |
| 19:31 |
n-regen |
HardPhuck: there´s a list structured like on the site and i have linked the files you sent to me in the <head>-section |
| 19:33 |
HardPhuck |
and? |
| 19:34 |
n-regen |
there a _list_, no menu |
| 19:34 |
HardPhuck |
link? |
| 19:36 |
n-regen |
http://paste.phlogi.net/-b3c0496f10/ |
| 19:36 |
HardPhuck |
this is still wrong |
| 19:37 |
n-regen |
what else must i do? |
| 19:37 |
HardPhuck |
you have to make a proper working version without typo3 |
| 19:37 |
HardPhuck |
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ |
| 19:37 |
HardPhuck |
here si a great resource how to make drop downs |
| 19:37 |
HardPhuck |
so first create html without typo3 |
| 19:37 |
HardPhuck |
proper html that is |
| 19:39 |
n-regen |
and when i have a html-file with such a list? |
| 19:39 |
HardPhuck |
each menu item in <div> tag is ugly, bad, wrong |
| 19:39 |
HardPhuck |
then you try to write the TS to make output just like your html |
| 19:39 |
yetihehe |
yeah, and using elemets like li and stripping them so they look like div's isn't? |
| 19:40 |
HardPhuck |
no it is not, <li> stands for list item |
| 19:40 |
HardPhuck |
which menu items are |
| 19:41 |
HardPhuck |
how does a div look like if i may ask |
| 19:41 |
n-regen |
i forgot to remove a very long comment. this is what the page looks like without comments: http://paste.phlogi.net/-9f09893243/ |
| 19:42 |
n-regen |
i already have a <ul><li>...</li><ul> structure |
| 19:42 |
HardPhuck |
n-regen: lol you just copy pasted things |
| 19:42 |
yetihehe |
almost like li { list-style:none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px } ;) |
| 19:43 |
HardPhuck |
yetihehe: lol |
| 19:43 |
yetihehe |
this is copied from link you posted ;) |
| 19:43 |
HardPhuck |
yeah but DIV does not look like anything |
| 19:44 |
HardPhuck |
div is merely a container |
| 19:44 |
HardPhuck |
just like LI |
| 19:44 |
yetihehe |
AND VERY GOOD! |
| 19:44 |
HardPhuck |
? |
| 19:44 |
yetihehe |
div does not have any look, so you don't need to strip all look before you use it |
| 19:45 |
HardPhuck |
you need to strip some things because some browsers apply some styling on their own |
| 19:45 |
n-regen |
http://84.150.233.236:50124 |
| 19:45 |
yetihehe |
ehh, I don't have enough coffeine in my blood to really dispute this :/ |
| 19:46 |
n-regen |
http://84.150.233.236:50124/typo3 |
| 19:46 |
n-regen |
thats my local server with the typo3-installation |
| 19:46 |
n-regen |
and the page how it looks at the moment: a list, not a menu |
| 19:47 |
HardPhuck |
so the menu is correct now |
| 19:47 |
HardPhuck |
now all you need to apply the proper CSS and JS |
| 19:47 |
n-regen |
it was all the time, but there was a comment containing the old <div>-menu |
| 19:47 |
yetihehe |
I'm just a programmer, who needs to "make menus dynamic" after getting them from grahpicians :D |
| 19:47 |
yetihehe |
almost on a weekly basis |
| 19:48 |
HardPhuck |
n-regen, now check the dropdown link i gave you |
| 19:48 |
HardPhuck |
the js i posted is too complicated for your knowledge i think |
| 19:48 |
HardPhuck |
no offense |
| 19:51 |
HardPhuck |
yetihehe: well i do that too, but i always want to have as semantic html as possible |
| 19:52 |
yetihehe |
now I know the reasoning with "reset.css", thanks :) |
| 19:53 |
HardPhuck |
you don't use it? |
| 19:53 |
yetihehe |
it's just two points of view: 1. programmers which want to use best tool to make thing as efficient as possible |
| 19:53 |
yetihehe |
2. graphicians - they want to do it just right, according to standards |
| 19:54 |
yetihehe |
I don't tell one way is better than other, just that one way is sometimes annoying for other side ;) |
| 19:54 |
HardPhuck |
lol true |
| 19:55 |
yetihehe |
I don't use it, it typically comes along with template |
| 19:55 |
HardPhuck |
well for the university site i got lucky because i got xthml template, css and js from the designer |
| 19:55 |
yetihehe |
I have as much art skills as typical glass |
| 19:55 |
yetihehe |
glass of water |
| 19:55 |
HardPhuck |
:) |
| 19:56 |
n-regen |
now it starts to work. i will go on working on the site tomorrow. thanks for your help, HardPhuck |
| 19:57 |
HardPhuck |
sure, np :) |
| 19:57 |
yetihehe |
I'm not a freelancer, so typically I will have template and good documentation, it's just me and programming then :) |
| 19:57 |
HardPhuck |
i am a freelancer so i usually get crap ;) |
| 19:58 |
HardPhuck |
i hate that part of the job |
| 19:58 |
HardPhuck |
someone hires me and says he has his own designer |
| 19:58 |
HardPhuck |
which usualy has less design skillz than a glass of water |
| 19:59 |
HardPhuck |
then i get the "design" in a jpg file, no documentation, no details, bad looking |
| 20:00 |
HardPhuck |
;) |
| 20:01 |
yetihehe |
hmm, I can't beat this ;) |
| 20:01 |
HardPhuck |
lol |
| 20:02 |
yetihehe |
but for last project we got 2gb of psd files, each page or variant of page as separate file |
| 20:03 |
yetihehe |
and it was only about 150 pages (we also got it as 50mb pdf :D) |
| 20:03 |
HardPhuck |
nice |
| 20:03 |
yetihehe |
documentation is not alwas roses too |
| 20:03 |
yetihehe |
alwas->always |
| 20:04 |
HardPhuck |
to be honest i'm in this business for about 5 years and only recently i got a job with the documentation that had everything i needed to know |
| 20:05 |
yetihehe |
Me too, but I have NEVER had such documentation, there were always some strange omissions |
| 20:05 |
yetihehe |
except for really small projects, where 1 template and two sentences were enough :) |
| 20:06 |
yetihehe |
documentation is typically manageable, not ideal, but almost ok |
| 20:06 |
HardPhuck |
i envy you :) |
| 20:07 |
HardPhuck |
usually when i ask my clients on the functionality, i get: Make something up |
| 20:07 |
HardPhuck |
i hate that |
| 20:07 |
yetihehe |
yeah, and then: this isn't what we wanted :D |
| 20:08 |
HardPhuck |
i mean i could sit down and make a plan, think things through. But noone wants to pay for that |
| 20:08 |
HardPhuck |
yea lol |
| 20:09 |
yetihehe |
many clients do not want to pay anyhow, after three weeks of making documentation for the project one client took the documentation and took another company for actual implementation :/ |
| 20:10 |
yetihehe |
just to not pay for the time it took to make docs |
| 20:11 |
HardPhuck |
that is crap |
| 20:12 |
yetihehe |
crap happens |
| 20:13 |
HardPhuck |
i've met a client (at least i thought he would become one), who at our first meeting talked about how business is growing |
| 20:13 |
HardPhuck |
and how rich they are |
| 20:13 |
HardPhuck |
and bragging about his company |
| 20:14 |
HardPhuck |
but when we came to the price, which was about 2k euro (which isn't much), he asked if i could give him discount or if he could pay in rounds (small payments) |
| 20:14 |
HardPhuck |
i almost laughed at his stupid face |
| 20:14 |
yetihehe |
hehe, I'm working on a project sponsoreb by bank paribas, they don't even have money for good server, they want to make server with video, allowing people to upload and encode their own videos, but machine is weaker than my desktop :/ |
| 20:15 |
HardPhuck |
lol |
| 20:16 |
HardPhuck |
those are the best, want to have everything but don't want to pay for nothing |
| 20:16 |
yetihehe |
and everything is done in js, where it should be done in flash, like animating 5 thousands photos, from which you can select, and then they move all into place :/ |
| 20:16 |
HardPhuck |
sucks |
| 20:16 |
yetihehe |
they didn't even have enough disk space for all videos |
| 20:16 |
HardPhuck |
lol |
| 20:17 |
HardPhuck |
well the bad side of this web business is definately that there are many really bad non-educated project leaders |
| 20:18 |
HardPhuck |
i had one of those |
| 20:18 |
yetihehe |
yes, one would think "The mythical man-month" was written thirty years ago and people still make errors taken from this book :/ |
| 20:19 |
yetihehe |
this project for paribas has just one such project manager :D |
| 20:19 |
HardPhuck |
the last project manager i worked with sucked so badly that i had no choice but to tell him that in the face |
| 20:20 |
HardPhuck |
we didn't work together anymore :) |
| 20:21 |
yetihehe |
sometimes it's really better to stop working for such people, than burn out |
| 20:21 |
HardPhuck |
i really had no choice he got like 50% of the money (and 50 me) but i had to do everything, from design, html, usability, documentation, functionality |
| 20:21 |
HardPhuck |
i agree |
| 20:23 |
HardPhuck |
i'm usually pretty direct to my clients |
| 20:23 |
HardPhuck |
got into several fights because of that, but in the end they all got my point :) |
| 20:24 |
yetihehe |
I usually don't speak with clients, my company does sites primarily in french (me too), but I don't know french, only my boss knows. So he is a buffer :) |
| 20:24 |
HardPhuck |
that's great |
| 20:25 |
HardPhuck |
you even can't argue with anyone because you don't understand them :D |
| 20:25 |
HardPhuck |
anyways i'm off enough for today |
| 20:25 |
HardPhuck |
take care |
| 20:25 |
HardPhuck |
bye |
| 20:26 |
yetihehe |
thank, and you too :) |
| 20:26 |
yetihehe |
bye |
| 21:25 |
j_s |
Hello. Is it possible to trigger at page tree/navtree reload directly from a backend extension? |
| 21:28 |
yetihehe |
with js, sure ;) |
| 21:30 |
j_s |
yetihehe, are there already a function for this or do I have to write it myself? |
| 21:31 |
yetihehe |
don't really know, but I think you just need to find what does icon of tree refreshing do and call the same from your extension |
| 21:31 |
yetihehe |
can't really help you in this now, I'm after beer and without access to ny of my last typo3 installs |
| 21:38 |
maltisch |
ls -al |
| 21:39 |
yetihehe |
maltish: i don't think it'll work here D |
| 21:39 |
yetihehe |
:D |
| 21:40 |
j_s |
yetihehe, thanks for the js-tip. This solves my problem: window.parent.frames['nav_frame'].location.reload() |
| 21:41 |
yetihehe |
yup :) |
| 21:41 |
yetihehe |
I thought it could need to load location with some parameters, but looks like just refreshing works |
