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01:45 tCzern hi
01:45 tCzern question about tt_newd
01:45 tCzern tt_news
01:46 tCzern anyone home?
02:25 dokma tCzern: ?
02:26 tCzern hey
02:26 tCzern I have the same problem like this here: http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2006-June/027037.html
02:26 tCzern but I don't know what to look for, I don't understand the response that got posted here
02:27 tCzern looking at phpmyadmin, tt_news table, for what exactly ?
02:29 tCzern that's what I got in the tt_news extension info: Probably one or more required fields/tables are missing in the database! The most eloquent message ever
03:16 tCzern heeeeeelp :-)
07:17 a5ied8 My login status at typo3.org I shows for two days now " Login is currently disabled. Please check back at a later time... " Any news about it ?
07:20 tCzern did you get their email?
07:23 a5ied8 no email received
07:25 tCzern someone hacked into the web site, all accounts are disabled for now
07:28 a5ied8 o.k. thanks
10:39 sorenmalling Can anybody explain, what rights a BE-user should have, in order to use a FCE correctly. Now, the user can add the FCE but doesn't see the the "places" where he can fill in the content elements
11:06 teppi|work sorenmalling, and you can see these content columns as admin?
11:06 sorenmalling teppi|work: Yes, as a admin I'm able to see them and add content to them
11:08 teppi|work hm then i think somehow the real content columns are disabled for the normal backend user .. but im not sure
11:08 teppi|work the content columns that are used for the fce
11:08 sorenmalling "real content columns" - you mean normal tt_content entries?
11:09 teppi|work no ..
11:10 teppi|work i think the content columns eg. left column (or something like that .. isnt accessable by your normale be user
11:10 sorenmalling Arh, okay. Then, how do I enable that possibilty?
11:11 teppi|work the columns which are linked in the datastructure with these columns of the FCE
11:12 sorenmalling Again, how do I change there rights so they are
11:14 teppi|work i thin somewhere in the usergroup right settings
11:15 sorenmalling Yes.. I just need to know what right(s) that needs to be set
11:15 teppi|work maybe you should try to give him all rights and look wether it works .. then you know if its such a problem
11:16 teppi|work could be: Pagecontent: Columns for instance
11:16 teppi|work i think
11:16 teppi|work but im absolutely not sure ;o)
11:16 teppi|work try & error
11:16 teppi|work :D
11:19 null__ Hi. I have a problem
11:19 teppi|work with your nick? :-)
11:19 null__ I have set forceCharset UTF-8
11:20 null__ teppi|work: :) Thats my pepertual problem :)
11:20 teppi|work :o)
11:20 null__ I have charset UTF-8 , but in my backend i see ISO-88xxx
11:22 null__ And whenever i insert the ¤ ( euro ) char i get a ?
11:23 teppi|work have you tried to set "SET NAMES utf8" in the setDBinit - field in the install tool?
11:24 null__ hm
11:24 teppi|work this entry makes sure that your be-script uses the right charset when its communicating with the database
11:25 null__ i will take a look
11:25 Prot0 doesn''t that have any effect when DB tables are set to ISO charset as well?
11:26 null__ the DB is set to UTF-8_unicode
11:26 teppi|work i think every table has its own charset definiton .. afaik
11:26 teppi|work even every row
11:26 teppi|work :-)
11:27 teppi|work erm column
11:27 teppi|work the best case is, to have everything in utf-8 ...
11:27 null__ Good time to do a backup before "playing"
11:29 teppi|work Prot0, i think it makes a difference
11:30 teppi|work when the default connection is set to iso latin 1 all special chars will be iso latin one encoded ..
11:30 teppi|work they will be shown correctly in the backend but be broken in the fe
11:30 teppi|work but im not sure
11:30 teppi|work :-)
11:30 teppi|work i hate this charset terror
11:35 null__ hm
11:35 null__ Ok. Now i get a backend error The forced character set "UTF-8" was not found in t3lib/csconvtbl/
11:35 null__ cannot log into BE
11:36 teppi|work lol?
11:37 teppi|work UTF-8 is wrong maybe you should try it lower cas
11:37 teppi|work e
11:38 teppi|work utf-8
11:38 teppi|work this is the value in my forceCharset field
11:38 null__ jepp
11:39 teppi|work SET NAMES utf8
11:39 teppi|work and this is the value in setdbinit
11:39 teppi|work could be the "-" too
11:40 null__ omg
11:41 null__ i wrote 3 days content, and i thought it was utf-8
11:41 null__ omfg
11:41 Prot0 :x
11:41 Prot0 default tables are set to latin right?
11:41 null__ no. they are utf8
11:42 Prot0 :0
11:42 Prot0 alrite :)
11:42 null__ i did a a forceCharset UTF-8 instead of utf-8
11:42 Prot0 yes but the tables
11:42 Prot0 in the database
11:42 Prot0 ouch
11:42 null__ callation utf-8
11:42 Prot0 ok :)
11:42 Prot0 i didn't say anything
12:04 teppi|work null__, there are several tutorials how you code decode you tables
12:04 teppi|work from one charset to another
12:04 teppi|work its a known problem ..
12:05 teppi|work *recode
12:07 Michel1122 hi everyone
12:07 Michel1122 how can i change labels in typo3?
12:08 Michel1122 at the moment i see the uid of my database. Which is a ref id. I want to show the name of an another field in another db
12:17 teppi|work Michel1122, since 4.1 there is the possibility to set labels with: label_userFunc .. maybe you can do it on this way
14:21 tCzern hello
14:21 Jigal hello
14:22 tCzern After installing tt_news I found two missing tables and cannot write them with the install tool to the database.
14:22 tCzern What's to do here?
14:22 Jigal which tables?
14:22 tCzern hold on ...
14:25 tCzern same problem as this: http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2006-June/027028.html
14:25 tCzern brb
14:26 Prot0 well
14:26 Prot0 theres your solution as well i guess?
14:26 Prot0 Incorrect table definition; there can be only one auto column
14:26 Prot0 > and it must be defined as a key
14:27 Prot0 so im guessing theres another column set as autonum?
14:27 Jigal that's a prehistorical version of tt_news!
14:27 Jigal brb
14:27 maholtz|WORK @Proto0: that problem come usually from othere extensions which extends tt_news - and are installed before tt_news
14:28 tCzern I installed tt_news_2.5.2.t3x
14:28 tCzern and then mbl_newsevent_0.4.7.t3x
14:30 tCzern Prot0: I don't see my solution here: What exactly would I need to do, I looked into the table at phpMyAdmin and it's all gibberish to be
14:31 tCzern to me
14:31 Prot0 maholtz|WORK is that supposed to be possible? :]
14:31 Prot0 hm
14:32 maholtz|WORK @Prot0: do it all via phpmyadmin
14:32 maholtz|WORK is possible
14:32 Prot0 yeah but messy hehe
14:33 maholtz|WORK you could deinstall the whole stuff, delete table and reinstall in correct order:)
14:33 tCzern tt_news I installed is from 2008, how can this be an old one?
14:34 maholtz|WORK who said "old"?
14:34 tCzern prehistoric
14:34 Prot0 lol
14:34 Prot0 theres a new version for mbl_newsevent though
14:34 Prot0 1.0.0
14:35 tCzern ok
14:35 Prot0 http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/mbl_newsevent/current/
14:35 tCzern crap ...
14:35 Prot0 what?
14:35 Prot0 you break it?
14:35 tCzern who? me?
14:35 tCzern I may junk it, dunno, ... hate it right now ...
14:36 tCzern thanks for the link, will re-install this...
14:37 tCzern tt_news first, right? and then mbl ?
14:38 maholtz|WORK yep
14:38 unbob Hey, I have a variable "lib.header" set to "sometext" in the page template, can I access and change that variable in my frontend plugin?
14:42 tCzern thanks!
14:42 Nitjuh lib.header >
14:42 maholtz|WORK @unbob: it should be possible, but would make no sense - use userFunc if you really need that
14:42 tCzern still not doing it
14:42 tCzern I uninstall mbl
14:42 tCzern and tt_news, and re-installed tt_news, same error
14:43 Michel1122 hi
14:43 Michel1122 i need some help with configuring tt_guest
14:43 Michel1122 it doesnt show my guestbook on page
14:44 Prot0 oh dear
14:44 Michel1122 ?
14:45 maholtz|WORK @tCzern: you have to delete the table - if that is possible (do not do that in your life system, please;)
14:45 Prot0 did you follow the install instructions?
14:45 Michel1122 yes
14:45 tCzern what do you mean with life system
14:45 Michel1122 plugin installed
14:45 chefan production system, tCzern
14:46 maholtz|WORK if you delete your tt_news table you would delete your news-entrys...
14:46 Michel1122 add static template
14:46 maholtz|WORK i am not sure, that you know what you do
14:46 Michel1122 me?
14:46 tCzern there are no news entries, I haven't used this so far.
14:46 chefan anything taht could risk your job/client/whatever if it's down without brior notice and a damn good reason ;)
14:47 tCzern I am not sure what I am doing too :-) I am fairly new toTypo3, I year maybe and a few sites so far
14:47 maholtz|WORK and mysql?
14:47 maholtz|WORK or sql?
14:47 maholtz|WORK you work on an dev system now, right?
14:47 unbob maholtz|WORK: I think it makes perfect sense :p what I'm trying to do is to insert a value from my plugin, instead of the page-title that is normally in "lib.header"
14:48 maholtz|WORK oh, no - that is not the way - in lib.header the page-title is renderd! thats someting different to change page-title
14:48 tCzern none of this. I am first of all a Graphic Designer and try to make Typo3 work for me
14:48 maholtz|WORK whats with navigation etc?
14:49 maholtz|WORK @tCzern: is not bad, but good to know:)
14:49 maholtz|WORK so, your system is not life now? can you delete all your news-items?
14:49 tCzern I know, wish I would not have to ask such questions.
14:49 maholtz|WORK np:) we all do:)
14:50 tCzern well, it is life, it's my personal site I am fiddling with (good for testing),
14:50 tCzern but I haven't entered any news yet
14:50 maholtz|WORK ok, so we should not delete the tt_news table:(
14:50 Michel1122 so anyone knows why tt_guest is not working?
14:50 tCzern why? would I break my site then?
14:51 maholtz|WORK you news items would be deleted...?
14:51 FloLeBlanc hi all
14:51 unbob maholtz|WORK: I change the page title with $GLOBALS['TSFE']->page['title'] = $newTitle, but that does not affect the rendering of "lib.header"
14:52 maholtz|WORK well, if you include your plugin on page.1 f.e. it should work
14:52 unbob navigation is fine, its a list->single situation
14:52 tCzern ok, I deleted all fragments (hopefully) with the install tool
14:52 maholtz|WORK @unbob: or use userFunc
14:52 unbob how would I use userFunc to do this?
14:52 maholtz|WORK there is a object USER
14:53 tCzern site is still up :-)
14:53 maholtz|WORK in typoscript
14:53 tCzern maholtz|WORK: for me, or michel?
14:53 maholtz|WORK @tCzern: for unbob
14:53 tCzern k
14:53 maholtz|WORK i will be back in a few minutes
14:54 FloLeBlanc can someone tell me what I could have forgotten to set in the kickstarter wizard if I create a frontend plugin and I can insert the plugin but I get no pi1 folder and no test output? :)
14:57 tCzern In Ext Manager, after uninstall an ext, it is still listed as uninstalled. Should this be cleaned out? If, how?
14:59 unbob maholtz|WORK: let me see if I get you right. I set lib.header to a userfunc, and in that php-function I get the piVar-uid I want, and query the database for my new header?
14:59 Best Hello, I ported a Typo3 site on a "TYPO3Winstaller", when i click add content in Typo3 i get "page not found" in that frame. any ideas? -.-
15:00 maholtz|WORK re
15:00 maholtz|WORK @unbob: yep, somewhat easier would use perhaps RECORDS if you like typoscript
15:01 maholtz|WORK @FloLeBlanc: added TypoScript of your plugin?
15:01 unbob maholtz|WORK: thanks for the help, I can try records first
15:01 maholtz|WORK @tCzern: to delete an extension totally (remove files) you can click at the extension, select backup/delete and than delete
15:02 FloLeBlanc maholtz: it doesn't need any TS, it should just output a voucher code every 24 hours for registered users :)
15:03 FloLeBlanc maholtz: or is an empty template needed anyways?
15:03 maholtz|WORK plugin file *_pi1 is there and it is defined in typoscript (objectbrowser) too?
15:03 maholtz|WORK nope empty template is not needed (afaik)
15:03 tCzern maholtz|WORK: ok, where could I find this option?
15:03 mrleo Hi, when saving content in htmlarea it strips all styles and other attributes of tags. Does any one have fast recipe?
15:04 tCzern oh, sorrry
15:04 FloLeBlanc maholtz: weird, works with an empty template, thank you
15:07 tCzern k, I am re-installing tt_news now
15:12 tCzern looks all good now, accept one code warning in mbl_news. THANKS, will play with it and see where I'll get. really appreciate!!
15:13 Nitjuh @ mrleo: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/rtehtmlarea/1.4.4/view/
15:37 Michel1122 ey everyone
15:37 Michel1122 im trying to configure tt_guest for guestbook, but it only shows header and not my body
15:43 Michel1122 anyone there?
15:44 Nitjuh @Michel112: is there a marker for it in the html template
15:44 maholtz|WORK did you inserted the static template?
15:45 Michel1122 yes
15:45 Michel1122 i id
15:45 Michel1122 did*
15:47 Michel1122 it only shows the input fields but with no words or whatsoever
15:47 Nitjuh link?
15:48 Michel1122 hmm its on my development server
15:48 Michel1122 can i screenshot it somehow?
15:48 Michel1122 or if u have crossloop
15:48 Nitjuh no
15:49 Nitjuh did you take a look at the manual of tt_guest?
15:50 Michel1122 yes
15:50 Michel1122 for more than an hour
15:50 Nitjuh :P
15:50 Michel1122 but still cant figure it out
15:51 Nitjuh is there a marker for it in the html template?
15:52 Michel1122 yes there are enough markers
15:54 Nitjuh did you configured the marker?
16:02 porkpie void:hi
16:03 dirkounet hello, got a question about database dumps
16:04 dirkounet i dumped my old tt_news into the new database, changed the pid of the newsfolder worked fine
16:04 dirkounet except for the categories
16:04 dirkounet how do i have to dump the old categories so that news are related to them?
16:05 dirkounet using t3 4.2.3 and latest tt_news, dumped from tt_news 2.4.0
16:06 Nitjuh truncate the categories table and give the old categories the same uid's
16:07 tCzern hello again, quick question. Would converting a Typo3 site into static html pages increase loading speeds? I have a site at www.encapgroup.com and my client thinks the site does not load very fast.
16:07 dirkounet well i did not have categories yet in the new tt_news
16:08 dirkounet so the uid's are the same, i only changed the pids, cause wanted to have the categories in another folder
16:08 chefan tCzern: not really. you have caching for that
16:09 chefan ok, typo3 does have quite an overhead, but if you are able to even think about switching the site to static html, maybe typo3 wasn't what you were looking for in the first place
16:09 Nitjuh @dirkounet: if the cat id in the news items are the same as the categorie uid then it should make a problem of it
16:09 Nitjuh @tCern: depends on your host ;)
16:10 chefan tCzern: what you could consider is putting a varnish or something in front of your typo3
16:10 tCzern The main reason why I use typo3 is, that (in my experience) clients never know what they really want and I ended up working on 50 pages instead of 15
16:10 tCzern a varnish?
16:11 chefan varnish, squid, whatever suits you
16:11 chefan a web cache
16:12 dirkounet so how can i solf it, have for example a cat uid 1 (from the old table) which still is one, in tt_news.category there should be a 1 to, right?
16:13 tCzern chefan: in the meta tag?
16:13 tCzern I used Typo3 only for a couple of months, I am not sure what you mean
16:14 chefan nope, varnish or squid have nothing to do with the typo3
16:14 chefan they are external daemons for serving static content from the file system, which can drastically speed up the site
16:15 chefan if they are overkill or ot depends on the load of the site
16:15 chefan have you tried yslow on the site?
16:15 chefan (firefox plugin)
16:17 dirkounet no one an idea?
16:17 Yippee Hi I have a problem with fe_user registration. I'm using typo3 versjon 4.2.3. The problem is that I can not get fe_user registering to be farms in the correct folder. They will be placed on the side where the plug is
16:19 chefan tCzern: BLOG IN BLACK: Varnish HTTP Accelerator <- here is a comment about varnish/typo3 setup
16:19 chefan would a factor of 46 in page requests processed solve your problem?
16:19 chefan anyway, lunch break
16:30 tCzern .
17:34 theconic does someone know a simple way to let PDFs be displayed? e.g. with the <embed> or <object> tag, or with an iframe
17:35 tCzern theconic: you just link to them?
17:36 theconic until now, yes...
17:36 tCzern there is also a nice plugin
17:37 theconic hehe, i guessed, but i didn't find one
17:37 tCzern hold on
17:37 theconic i searched for "pdf" and ONLY found hundreds of those who render your page to a pdf file...
17:38 dinsdale07 are you german @ theconic?
17:38 tCzern I recently installed it ... wait a minute
17:39 tCzern sk_pdfviewer
17:39 theconic please hold the line...
17:39 tCzern looks like this: http://www.dorsch-art.net/index.php?id=44
17:42 theconic ok this is really nice ;)
17:42 dinsdale07 also: pdf_generator - I just read the article in the t3n magazin yesterday. It works with a type-123 argument at the end of the URL.
17:43 theconic but only necessary if you want to deny the direct access to the .pdf right?
17:43 theconic but maybe this is what i need, thanks!
17:44 tCzern dunno, I simply used it because it works within a content element
17:44 theconic yes, that's what i need
17:45 theconic is it bug-free?
17:45 tCzern it won't show the directory in the html source code
17:45 theconic because of its alpha status?
17:45 tCzern works fine for me
17:45 tCzern EASY to install
17:45 theconic and ghostscript?
17:46 theconic don't know whether i got that...
17:46 tCzern nope
17:47 theconic you don't have it installed?
17:47 theconic it says one needs it
17:50 tCzern hhm, in the ext manager?
17:51 theconic in the manual: "To use this plugin, make sure your server has Ghostscript installed"
17:51 tCzern ok
17:52 tCzern you can check this with the Install Tool, image processing or something like that
18:04 maholtz680 re
18:04 chefan there is no, has never bin and probably never will be any bug free software
18:05 chefan it all comes down to mostly bug free and fairly secure
18:05 chefan been even
18:19 tCzern chefan: this HTML Varnish, how does this work? I have this site on a hosted service
18:44 chefan ah, ok, in that case it might not do the trick for you, if you can't install packages of your own
18:45 theconic to all the ones who use TV:
18:45 theconic where can i see the TS which leads to a CE?
18:46 theconic if i insert a ContentElement, where is the created TypoScript??
19:05 theconic nobody here who uses TV?
19:07 yetihehe i've tried once, but one needs too much coffee for it to be healthy ;)
19:08 theconic what i need is to manipulate the TS of a CE after creating it
19:08 theconic but i can't find it...
19:33 dinsdale07 Is anyone good in cal base? I want to map seminars categories to cal base categories and it just doesn't work.
19:37 dinsdale07 I also don't understand how the different calendar views like "day/month/search" are implemented. Each of them seems to have their own functionality.
21:55 andreasbalzer2 hi
21:55 andreasbalzer2 Is there any possibility to get BE users add, edit and remove news (tt_news) in frontend?
21:55 andreasbalzer2 The news are saved in seperate sysfolders per news page
21:58 SfiSh u could use th_mailformplus
21:59 andreasbalzer2 me?
21:59 SfiSh yes
21:59 andreasbalzer2 well I would like to have frontend editing for news
22:00 andreasbalzer2 I guess mailforms can be only modified to submit those. Am I correct?
22:00 SfiSh i think its possible with adminpanel
22:00 SfiSh yes submit
22:01 SfiSh http://www.typo3wizard.com/de/snippets/general-config/tt-news-frontend-editing.html ?
22:01 andreasbalzer2 I'd like to have instant adding of news, editing and removal for allowed BE users
22:01 andreasbalzer2 I wasn't able to find that in the admin panel until now. It only offers me the possibility to manage the content element for the news plugin
22:02 SfiSh look at the comments
22:02 SfiSh they may help
22:02 andreasbalzer2 thanks
22:04 andreasbalzer2 hm.. it still doesn't appear
22:04 andreasbalzer2 just the normal CE editing functions
22:08 SfiSh german ?
22:08 andreasbalzer2 yes
22:09 SfiSh same problem here: http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-ug-darmstadt/2008-April/000738.html
22:11 andreasbalzer2 but that one is for frontend users, I need one for backend and I need editing functionality as well
22:12 SfiSh http://www.typo3-ruhr.org/tt_news-frontend-edit.html
22:12 SfiSh connect FE & BE users with simulatebe
22:13 andreasbalzer2 looks better :)
22:19 SfiSh viel erfolg
22:19 SfiSh goo night
22:19 SfiSh +d
22:19 andreasbalzer2 thanks cu
22:37 theconic anyone here who uses TemplaVoila??
22:40 theconic is that reall true that nobody in here uses TemplaVoila?? can't believe it...
22:41 andreasbalzer2 I use it but I had someone configure it for me
22:41 andreasbalzer2 I don't know anything about it. sry
22:43 theconic thank you, at least one answer ;)
22:43 andreasbalzer2 :)
22:45 chefan you could have more of those, but i didn't want to depress you
22:47 theconic come on, don't be shy ^^... i'm searching since hours where Templayvoila writes the TS of CEs in, because i want to write CEs on my own, but i don't know where this TS is stored
23:01 dokma theconic: only just learning it. Been using TYPO3 for 3 yrs. Never felt I needed TV.
23:03 theconic dokma: maybe this is what I will have to do....
23:30 chefan theconic: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_ftb1/1.0.1/view/1/5/#id3989127 <- does this help?
23:44 dinsdale07 is there a special convention in Typo3 where function names are preceeded with a _ (underscore)? I see this often in the cal base extension
23:50 chefan dinsdale07: in php, starting a function with an underscore is common practice to mark it as private
23:50 chefan meaning the function does not want to be used from outside of the class
23:51 theconic chefan: thanks a lot, but no, this doesn't help me
23:51 chefan iirc php is still unable to enforce that though
23:51 theconic i still don't know where the TS is....
23:52 dinsdale07 I see, I often see duplicates of the same function name, once with _ and once without.
23:52 dinsdale07 e.G. function findAllWithin($start_date, $end_date, $pidList) and function _findAllWithin($start_date, $end_date, $pidList)
23:53 dinsdale07 none of them is actually declared as privat.

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