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00:13 HardPhuck argh!
00:30 HardPhuck the debug function should work in a popup window
00:42 HardPhuck AND YES!
00:42 HardPhuck he has done it again! :D
05:54 d|g hi all
07:11 sankalp hi everyone i am a new irc user of typo3.
07:11 sankalp plz help me someone in setting up a multilanguage website in typo3.i have been working in this for 3 days not but not being successful
07:15 chefan when did you start with typo3, when do you intend to have your site running, how much time do you intend to invest?
07:16 chefan and messaging people won't actually raise your chances of getting help
07:16 chefan on the contrary
07:17 sankalp i have been using typo3 for 3 weeks.i used my template
07:17 sankalp i used templavoila extension,mininews and rss feed
07:17 sankalp but i couldn't get help in setting multilanguage site
07:17 sankalp i used sr_language_menu extension and translators
07:18 sankalp but it didn't help
07:20 sankalp i am working for european company and they are trying to have multi language ability in their website and i have to complete the project in 2 weeks now
07:21 sankalp so please i am in urgent help
07:21 sankalp needs urgent help
07:21 chefan sounds bad. sorry, i haven't worked with hose extensions yet
07:21 chefan the language menu & translators that is
07:22 sankalp ok then what extensions do u think will be helpful for me
07:22 sankalp for setting multilanguage site
07:24 chefan i didn't say they are wrong, just that i haven't worked with them
07:24 sankalp but it didn't help
07:24 chefan i write extensions, i don't deploy them
07:24 chefan does the repository list them as stable?
07:25 sankalp have u developed extension for multilanguage site
07:25 chefan if so, there is a good chance it might not be the extensions fault that they don't do what you expect
07:25 sankalp yes i have used stable
07:25 sankalp but not getting it right work
07:27 chefan well, it is easy to see that you are desperate, but no, i am trying to explain that i can't help you with that. i am sure someone els in here will be able, but your timing is bad, the channel is not so busy at this time of the day
07:27 sankalp ok then after what hours should i come then
07:28 sankalp yes
07:30 chefan stay on channel, set a highlight o multilanguage or whatever keywords you are interested in
07:30 chefan and check the activity occasionally
07:31 sankalp ok thanks for ur support
07:32 chefan i can understand you are stressed, but that won't help you right now
07:33 chefan make good use of the time and google for answers in the meantime or check out the docs
07:33 chefan drop by a book store, there are books about typo3, see if one of them covers the topic
07:33 sankalp ok sir
07:41 chefan hm, i remember there was a document about localization
07:41 chefan "frontend localization guide" iirc
07:41 chefan did you read that?
07:41 sankalp i also used the localization manager extension
07:42 chefan another approach would be to ask on the TV mailing list
07:42 sankalp but it just shows me the columns language names but not translated language
07:42 chefan TV is quite different, so it might be that there are different approaches to achieve what you want
07:44 sankalp ok i will see that but actually what i need is the tutorial of setting a site in multiple language
07:44 sankalp the mailing lists don't give all steps.they just show bugs
07:44 chefan you can ask
07:45 chefan ok, 2 weeks before the deadline that is pretty late
07:45 chefan your first project?
07:46 sankalp yes this is my first project in typo3
07:46 sankalp and my experience in it is very badd
07:46 sankalp it's the most complex cms i have ever been with
07:46 chefan any formal training?
07:46 chefan yup, it's a beast
07:47 sankalp no i just read tutorial and documentation but it also didn't help.i just did everything on my own
07:47 chefan are you employed or freelancer?
07:47 sankalp i am employed in outsourcing company
07:47 sankalp i am from nepal
07:47 sankalp i am doing european project
07:48 chefan greetings to your boss, he shouldn't be so cheap
07:48 sankalp am i doing a heavy money task
07:48 chefan and sponsor a bit of training for people who have to work with typo3
07:48 chefan oO
07:49 sankalp i am the first person in the company to do any typo3 project.now i think i have to give training to others
07:49 sankalp but why the documents of extensions of typo3 are not availabe clearly.i don't understand
07:49 chefan ok, seriously. i don't know your relationship to your boss
07:50 chefan but typo3 is not joomla
07:50 sankalp i am working in his company as intern
07:50 sankalp Which is better do u think joomla or typo3
07:50 chefan if he wants to make some money with the platform, he should invest in training
07:51 chefan which is better, a bike or a truck?
07:51 chefan typo3 is one of the most powerful, most bloated and in many ways most tricky php based cms
07:52 sankalp so i think i am doing a good job
07:52 chefan i suppose so
07:52 sankalp if i do this work then i will be somwhat good in typo3
07:52 chefan but it seems your boss doesn't
07:53 sankalp but i can't find a way fo 2 weeks now
07:53 chefan i work in south america. the people here get at least 2 month training before they start working with typo3 in production
07:54 chefan here = the foundation i work for
07:55 chefan well, if you manage to solve that in 2 weeks, you deserve a raise
07:56 chefan anyway, check out the mailing list, google for the rest, and stay here and hope for a chance to ask
07:56 sankalp thanks man so i think u r also a computer engineer
07:56 chefan the more you find out before you get to ask questions, the better
07:57 sankalp will u provide me the training pdf's
07:57 chefan yup
07:57 chefan i am sorry, i can't
07:58 sankalp there is no typo3 class in nepal .how can i work
07:58 sankalp is there any legal issues
07:58 chefan for me yes
07:59 chefan the training is based on internal material
07:59 chefan so i can't distribute that
07:59 sankalp i think u should help me .aren't u a open source beliver
07:59 chefan but there is some good documentation around, you just have to know what to look for
07:59 chefan lol
08:00 chefan i am
08:00 sankalp i have been looking for 2 wekks
08:00 sankalp have u also taken the training of typo3
08:00 chefan no, i learned that before
08:00 sankalp ok just provide me the multilanguage pdf
08:00 sankalp please
08:00 sankalp i need ur help
08:00 sankalp as i have no training here in nepal
08:01 chefan and i am not working on site building, i do extension development when i work with typo3
08:01 sankalp my email address is (obscured mail address)
08:01 chefan sankalp: read what i wrote. i gave you the keywords to look for
08:02 chefan and i have signed a contract not to hand out internal documents
08:02 chefan do you want to put my family at risk for a pdf?
08:03 chefan you have access to the internet, you have a lot of training in nepal
08:04 sankalp ok sorry .i know legal issues.i won't ask u again
08:04 chefan your problem has to do with time, not so much with access to material
08:04 sankalp ok then i think i will search the net now.please give me some suggestions if u get something
08:05 chefan if i come across localization, i will, but the chances are low, right now i am working in java and with different platforms
08:05 chefan you should ask your boss for documentation
08:06 chefan if he is working with european companies, he should not save money on a couple of books
08:06 sankalp ok i will ask my boss then
08:12 chefan_ http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_l10nguide/current/
08:12 chefan_ do you know this one?
09:54 ndee hi there, when I try to create a new news with another user than admin in the backend, I get an SQL error. http://rafb.net/p/Wa3wNM20.html <-- that's the query that's wrong. Now, I know there should be a ' around the NEW48... but why doesn't tt_news or the backend create that?
10:02 ndee it looks like there is a problem with the categories.
10:14 unbob Hi. I would like to know how to append text to a templavoila typoscript object.
10:14 unbob lib.footer < <div>Some info</div>
10:14 unbob lib.footer .= <div>Some more info</div>
10:14 unbob this doesnt work :p
10:34 m4rtijn lib.footer = TEXT
10:35 m4rtijn lib.footer.VALUE = blabla
10:35 m4rtijn appending.. erm..
10:36 m4rtijn I'd try.. lib.footer.10 = TEXT lib.footer.10.value = first text
10:36 m4rtijn lib.footer.20 = TEXT and lib.footer.20.value = second text
10:36 m4rtijn maybe you have to use htmlspecialchars as well.. im not sure
10:40 Lann hello
10:40 Lann im at the typo3 dev conf, woot
10:42 Lann anyone else here at the conference?
10:44 ndee sweet, where's the conference?
10:44 m4rtijn in berlin
10:45 Dynamike how long?
10:46 Dynamike damn, am i still able to visit it?
10:46 Dynamike or did i have to subscribe for this?
10:46 unbob thx ma4rtijn, with lib.footer = COA first it worked
10:47 Dynamike i'm sooo interested about v5 and flow3
10:47 Lann hmm
10:47 m4rtijn Dynamike - you could go there and try to get a ticket..
10:48 m4rtijn but they're sold out
10:48 Lann well there was already a flow3 seminar
10:48 Dynamike damn it
10:48 Dynamike :(
10:48 Lann got casper's autograph on a shirt
10:48 Lann err kasper
10:48 Dynamike hehe
10:48 m4rtijn lol
10:48 Dynamike great
10:49 Lann hehe
10:49 Lann Berlin is pretty fun
10:49 Lann my first time outside the US
10:49 ndee tt_news and workspaces. could it be that it totally doesn't work?
10:50 Lann uh...works in our install
10:51 ndee Lann: We have 32 car dealerships, each have their own news. When they add a new news in their workspace and want to preview it, they can't see it in the preview.
10:52 nkuttler ndee: as in news showing up that shouldn't?
10:52 nkuttler i see
10:52 ndee nkuttler: as in news not showing up in the workspace when they should :D
10:53 nkuttler never tested that
10:53 ndee that's actually pretty important. Because now, the admin has to publish it before it's viewable and that totally breaks the workflow.
10:53 lilalinux What is "Mode 1" .. "Mode 3" in a plugin created with kickstarter?
10:53 nkuttler ndee: are you sure the news items aren't hidden?
10:54 nkuttler ndee: their records
10:55 ndee nkuttler: the orignal record is hidden but the "draft" version isn't.
10:56 nkuttler ndee: well, i've seen other exts that don't work too well with workspaces..
10:57 ndee yeah, me too but I hoped that tt_news worked :/
10:59 nkuttler ndee: btw, why does the news record even have a record in the live workspace? it should have a placeholder or something..
11:01 ndee hm? it doesn't have a record in the live workspace. Only after it is published.
11:02 nkuttler ah, ok
11:02 nkuttler < ndee> nkuttler: the orignal record is hidden but the "draft" version isn't.
11:02 ndee nkuttler: I just checked phpmyadmin and saw two records, don't know if it exists in the live workspace :D
11:03 ndee both are in the draft workspace
11:05 ndee now I have three different windows open for each state of the lifecycle, so I can debug a little
11:25 ndee is there a way to get just the query of a $wsRes = $this->exec_getQuery('tt_news', $wsSelectconf); ?
11:30 ndee there is definitely a bug in tt_news when it comes to workspaces, gonna file a bugreport.
11:30 Dynamike @lilalinux: do you mean mod1 ... mod3?
11:31 Dynamike how can i turn an database BLOB into a php string?
11:31 Dynamike a*
11:34 m4rtijn parse it?
11:41 lilalinux Dynamike: here it says "Mode 1 Mode 2 Mode 3"
11:43 Dynamike m4rtijn: yeah it works, last time i've searched for a string in blob it didnt work
11:43 Dynamike very strange
11:43 Dynamike but thx
11:43 Dynamike where exactly, lilalinux?
11:48 NublaII can you create a 'function' on TS?
11:49 NublaII I have a bunch of lines of TS that I have to repeat
11:49 NublaII and the only thing that changes is one argument: 4 different uids
11:50 m4rtijn NublaII just copy it
11:50 m4rtijn there are no functions in TS
11:50 m4rtijn except some arethetic..
11:51 NublaII mmm... I was first trying with some looping but I couldn't get it to work...
11:51 m4rtijn NublaII - its not a programming language..
11:51 m4rtijn its just a php array
11:51 m4rtijn in the end
11:53 m4rtijn hmm, wait thats not really true though.. that there arent any functions
11:53 m4rtijn ah, MyGoddess is alive..
11:53 m4rtijn strange.. normally your just idling, joining/leaving
11:54 MyGoddess m4rtijn, you just aren't watching there with the good timing.
11:54 m4rtijn .. that could be it..
11:54 No5251 maybe he's on the t3con08 too and has time to write something ...
11:54 m4rtijn maybe you're a night person
11:54 NublaII http://phpfi.com/362717
11:54 m4rtijn NublaII - there are functions which can be used in typoscript..
11:54 NublaII that's the code... the only thing that will change is the uid (24181 on the example)
11:55 m4rtijn but they are not defined in TS.. only used
11:55 NublaII it just gets the page title, the number of active elements and then lists the active elements' headers
11:55 NublaII Mmm... I guess I'll just copy/paste it four times ;)
11:55 m4rtijn NublaII - why
11:56 m4rtijn NublaII - use the copy function
11:56 NublaII this? <
11:56 m4rtijn yeah
11:56 m4rtijn I'd use some more { } as well to clean it up a bit
11:57 m4rtijn start with temp.Others { }
11:57 m4rtijn then 10 { }
11:57 m4rtijn then 20 < 10
11:57 m4rtijn 20 {
11:57 m4rtijn 20 < /10
11:57 m4rtijn grr
11:57 m4rtijn 20 < .10 like that
11:58 NublaII ok... I see where it's going... and just add the lines where I define the uids with the new one right?
11:58 m4rtijn jep
12:11 lilalinux Dynamike: at the top of the frontend plugin
12:12 lilalinux It is: Mode 1... \n table of objects \n seach form \n Displaying results 1 to 2 out of 2 \n page 1
12:14 NublaII m4rtinjn: sweet! works like a charm!
12:19 m4rtijn nice!
12:20 NublaII it's a little piece of code... where can I share this snippet?
12:20 NublaII at least I like it ;)
12:21 NublaII here you have it cleaned up ;) (comments in spanish for now, sorry ;))
12:21 NublaII http://phpfi.com/362725
12:24 m4rtijn hehe
12:25 m4rtijn yes, its good
12:25 m4rtijn if you think its usefull for other users you could paste it in : snippets.typo3.org
12:26 m4rtijn though you'd have to comment it in english :)
12:26 NublaII no problem for that ;)
12:36 HardPhuck hey every1
12:37 m4rtijn hi HardPhuck
12:37 HardPhuck hey mart
12:38 m4rtijn .. about your nick...
12:38 m4rtijn :)
12:38 reiffert Hi. I have a really strange problem on typo3 on a particular page: Whenever I add a _single_ character to the page, the page looses the page style. Whenever I add more than 100 characters, the page gets displayed totally blank.
12:38 m4rtijn it looks a bit like.. you know..
12:38 m4rtijn reiffert - typo3 version?
12:39 reiffert m4rtijn: tested and reproduced with 4.1.5, 4.2.1 and 4.2.2
12:40 reiffert Want to have a look on the particular page?
12:40 m4rtijn sure
12:40 reiffert http://www.rolf-froehling.de/register/sachregister/sachregisteraj.html
12:40 reiffert tell me when I can add a single character to show you the result.
12:41 m4rtijn go ahead
12:41 HardPhuck mart the nick is old from my puberty times, but hey why change it when every1 knows me by it:)
12:41 reiffert reload.
12:41 nd__ I thought you're big into t3 for porno pages
12:41 reiffert character added was "d" in the last paragraph under "H"
12:42 m4rtijn so I was right.. with the similarity
12:42 m4rtijn HardPhuck
12:42 m4rtijn :)
12:42 m4rtijn reiffert - still looks fine to me
12:42 HardPhuck lol never made a porno site, was discussing to make one for a client, but havent started yet
12:42 HardPhuck would be nice though
12:43 m4rtijn hehe
12:43 HardPhuck backend access LOL
12:43 HardPhuck anal access
12:43 HardPhuck :)
12:43 reiffert m4rtijn: all I had to do was press shift-reload on Firefox.
12:43 m4rtijn I did ctrl + reload
12:44 m4rtijn reiffert - still looks okay
12:44 m4rtijn ctrl + F5 = clear cache.. dunno what shift does..
12:44 m4rtijn nothing here
12:44 reiffert m4rtijn: it even looks not ok with another browser. It looks like OK minus the style sheet.
12:45 reiffert so white background and so on
12:45 m4rtijn ow.. I didnt had styles the first time
12:45 HardPhuck shift does the reload without looking into browser cache, fetches all content again
12:45 reiffert I just removed the single character, reload.
12:46 reiffert (you should get black background and so on)
12:46 m4rtijn nope
12:46 m4rtijn reiffert - your html <head> is empty
12:47 m4rtijn i have to restart.. pc is getting slow .. brb
12:48 reiffert HardPhuck: are you getting the site with or without style sheet?
12:48 HardPhuck your site?
12:48 reiffert http://www.rolf-froehling.de/register/sachregister/sachregiste
12:48 reiffert raj.html
12:48 reiffert argh.
12:48 HardPhuck without
12:49 HardPhuck without <head>
12:49 reiffert hrmn.
12:49 HardPhuck something wrong with you template
12:49 HardPhuck your
12:49 reiffert I removed some more characters, reload now.
12:50 HardPhuck now it's ok
12:50 reiffert Well, how to debug what happens here?
12:50 HardPhuck where did you remove characters?
12:51 reiffert In the last paragraph, named "H", at the very end
12:52 reiffert Tell me when I should add them again.
12:53 m4rtijn re
12:53 reiffert m4rtijn: now you can reload again, I did some more removals.
12:53 m4rtijn send url again
12:53 reiffert http://www.rolf-froehling.de/register/sachregister/sachregisteraj.html
12:54 m4rtijn okay..
12:54 reiffert Shall I add some characters?
12:54 m4rtijn reiffert did u check if webspace is maybe full? or the db space?
12:54 HardPhuck reiffert you are adding characters in the content??
12:54 reiffert 250GB free, db space is not limited in any way.
12:55 reiffert HardPhuck: yes, directly after (Litchfield Plantation, South Carolina)
12:55 m4rtijn and what are those.. normal content elements?
12:55 HardPhuck is everything in one content record?
12:55 reiffert Those are "Normal Text" Elements.
12:56 reiffert HardPhuck: one content record for every alphabetical char, like A, B, C, D and so on
12:56 HardPhuck then it's RTE (i think)
12:57 reiffert I'm not using the RTE.
12:57 HardPhuck what are you using then
12:59 reiffert http://snap.reifferscheid.org/1.png
13:01 reiffert Now I was adding some more words and sentences and there you are, just reload.
13:02 HardPhuck no css
13:02 HardPhuck that is still RTE i think (but not sure
13:02 HardPhuck try enabling it
13:02 reiffert Removing the Checker beneath "disable RTE"?
13:03 HardPhuck yes
13:03 reiffert done and saved
13:04 reiffert (no change)
13:04 HardPhuck see a bug now
13:04 HardPhuck in the FE
13:04 reiffert Was that a question? "See a bug now"? What do you mean?
13:06 HardPhuck wait
13:06 reiffert sure, I've plenty of time.
13:07 HardPhuck where can i paste pictures
13:07 HardPhuck :)
13:07 reiffert picpaste.com
13:08 HardPhuck http://picpaste.com/pics/Picture_3.1223637666.png
13:09 reiffert oh, thats because you were hitting reload twice in one second.
13:09 reiffert just ignore it.
13:09 reiffert so it's trying to insert a line into cache_pagesection where the unique key timestamp is already filled.
13:10 reiffert (twice a second = same timestamp)
13:10 HardPhuck ah :)
13:11 reiffert Allright, so how to proceed, how can I track down *why* there is no header in some circumstances?
13:11 reiffert I already have had some minutes looking into typo3 source code, but it just beats me, too much source for too small brain.
13:12 reiffert I dont even find the right place where to look at.
13:12 HardPhuck you better check what kind of field is in the DB
13:12 reiffert okay, which table then please?
13:12 HardPhuck hmm :D
13:12 HardPhuck let me check
13:14 reiffert I have an idea:
13:14 reiffert the H section contains 1024 words.
13:14 reiffert wc 2
13:14 reiffert 1 1024 9442 2
13:14 HardPhuck that is not a problem
13:14 reiffert 1 line, 1024 words, 9442 characters, "filename: 2"
13:14 reiffert well 1024 looks soooo much relevant here.
13:14 HardPhuck the mediumtext in tt_content can have up to 16,777,215 characters so that's not the fault
13:15 reiffert I dont know anything about the php code ..
13:15 reiffert from the look of the DB it's ok.
13:16 reiffert the look, damn, my english sucks.
13:16 reiffert let me remove a single word.
13:16 reiffert there you go, reload the page.
13:16 reiffert 1023 words == have css
13:16 reiffert 1024 words == no css
13:17 reiffert afk for a smoke
13:17 HardPhuck ok
13:18 HardPhuck when you come back try adding a word
13:18 reiffert btw, see for yourself: http://snap.reifferscheid.org/text.txt
13:19 HardPhuck so you have 1025
13:19 reiffert ok, let me add two words.
13:19 reiffert added, reload, css is gone.
13:19 HardPhuck then the word count doesnt matter here
13:19 reiffert see at the very end of the page, the two words added are: "1024" and "1025"
13:20 HardPhuck what about G?
13:20 HardPhuck how many words
13:20 reiffert 1216 words. allright.
13:21 reiffert so just a coincidnece with no special meaning.
13:21 reiffert So how to track the thing down? (afk for a smoke now)
13:21 HardPhuck ok:)
13:24 reiffert back :)
13:33 reiffert When I disable the cache for this page, the page works. ... is that giving us some hint?
13:36 reiffert forget the last comment.
13:36 reiffert Now I was adding just some more content to the "H" paragraph and the page is totally blank.
13:36 reiffert just telling: <!-- Parsetime: 4244 ms-->
13:37 idevelop hi guys
13:37 idevelop how do i configure realurl to give me links to subpages like /page/subpage.html ?
13:37 idevelop right now, to get a nice url, i have to manually set Alias
13:38 idevelop can't realurl make the link from the title?
13:38 idevelop i use some default config i found on a forum, for tt_news
13:46 reiffert m4rtijn: any other ideas?
13:51 No5251 is someone from the t3con08 in here?
13:58 reiffert HardPhuck: how to proceed?
13:59 HardPhuck reiffert have copied the content of H over to G?
13:59 HardPhuck ah
13:59 HardPhuck from G to H
14:00 reiffert HardPhuck: There is a new situation atm. I hide the "H" and the page displays fine. I show "H" and hide "G" and the page displays fine.
14:01 reiffert HardPhuck: I unhide "H" and "G" and I get an empty page, just telling <!-- Parsetime: 204 ms-->
14:01 HardPhuck you have the same content in both?
14:02 reiffert No, should I do that?
14:02 HardPhuck yes try having the H content (longer one) in both and unhide them
14:02 beli moin
14:03 reiffert HardPhuck: the H content is in H and G now. Hiding one of them: page shows up fine. Unhiding both and I get a blank page.
14:04 HardPhuck okay. now completely delete G
14:04 HardPhuck copy the content to some temp file
14:04 reiffert deleted, page shows up fine
14:04 HardPhuck now create a new content element
14:04 HardPhuck a new G
14:05 HardPhuck and copy stuff over
14:05 reiffert done, I get a blank page
14:06 HardPhuck okay try one more thing delete G and put G stuff into H
14:06 HardPhuck unhide H
14:07 reiffert page shows up fine
14:07 reiffert (as I was deleting G like you told me)
14:07 HardPhuck okay, rename H to G now
14:08 reiffert shows up fine
14:08 HardPhuck add a new H now and paste in the H content
14:09 reiffert blank page
14:09 HardPhuck now this is the strangest thing ever :)
14:09 reiffert yeah, any ideas on how to track the error?
14:10 reiffert I mean it says: Parsetime ...
14:10 HardPhuck i see
14:10 reiffert Look http://www.rolf-froehling.de/register/sachregister/sachregisteraj.html
14:11 HardPhuck try one more thing, delete the G while copying it's source code to clipboard, and make a new content element "HTML" and paste the code in
14:12 HardPhuck the problem might be memory related because there is quite some content in, but that's only a guess
14:14 reiffert blank page
14:15 reiffert memory_limit = 256M
14:16 reiffert I was just increasing the value from 96M to 256M, but still: blank page
14:17 reiffert Hiding G: page shows up. Hiding H: page shows up
14:17 reiffert Unhiding both: blank page
14:18 HardPhuck where did you increase memory limit
14:19 reiffert php.ini
14:19 HardPhuck have you restarted apache?
14:19 reiffert of course.
14:19 HardPhuck running out of ideas
14:19 reiffert t3lib/config_default.php: 'setMemoryLimit' => 0, // Integer, memory_limit in MB: If more than 16, TYPO3 wil
14:20 reiffert typo3/sysext/impexp/class.tx_impexp.php:@ini_set('memory_limit','256m');
14:20 reiffert looks intresting?
14:20 idevelop help anyone?
14:20 HardPhuck try install all configurarion to check if there is some limitation for content
14:20 idevelop with my url rewrite?
14:21 HardPhuck reiffert: or try adding a Z for example copy the H into Z and hide H
14:21 HardPhuck then, if blank, remove some of Z content and see what happend
14:21 HardPhuck happens
14:21 reiffert HardPhuck: can you explain the "try to install all configuration" part a bit please
14:21 HardPhuck install tool
14:21 HardPhuck -> all configuration
14:22 HardPhuck there might be some limitations in there
14:22 reiffert Allready checked that, looks ok
14:23 reiffert HardPhuck: anything that can be done to get some more verbose output in such a case?
14:23 reiffert HardPhuck: something like a function call tracer?
14:24 HardPhuck 1: try apache error log
14:24 reiffert nothing
14:24 HardPhuck 2: enable admPanel= 1
14:25 HardPhuck put page.config.admPanel = 1
14:25 HardPhuck into TS template
14:25 HardPhuck that will render a FE admin panel, sometimes shows errors
14:25 HardPhuck when nothing else does
14:25 reiffert thats a bit too much of typo3 knowledge for me. Where should I put that, into typo3conf/localconf.php?
14:27 HardPhuck select module template in the left menu
14:28 HardPhuck then find the page that holds the template, usually the top one with id 1
14:28 HardPhuck depends on the structure
14:28 reiffert yep
14:28 reiffert Resources, Constants, Setup ...
14:28 HardPhuck go to setup
14:28 HardPhuck and paste this at the bottom
14:29 tHeoNE hello everyone...
14:29 HardPhuck then save, clear cache and look in FE for "admin Panel" or something like that
14:29 tHeoNE need some help with powermail extenstion
14:29 tHeoNE does anyone use powermail?
14:29 reiffert HardPhuck: privmsg ok?
14:29 fred^^ hola
14:30 fred^^ http://pastebin.com/d61fd8cbd level 2 menu wont display
14:30 fred^^ that should work, or im totally missing something
14:30 tHeoNE Powermail_optin doesn't work
14:30 HardPhuck reiffert: yea
14:30 tHeoNE no emails are sent when double opt-in is activated...
14:31 tHeoNE without the Double opt-in feature everything works fine...
14:32 tHeoNE but i need the confirmation link to show up in user emails sent through powermail..
14:32 tHeoNE can anyone help please?
14:34 HardPhuck fred: http://pastebin.com/d48b5088d
14:35 HardPhuck this is mine that works
14:36 fred^^ the problem with that one is that it doesnt have a pagetree specified. i have a pagetree thats set to not in menu that i want to display
14:36 fred^^ only level 1 is diplaying
14:40 m4rtijn hi
14:40 m4rtijn ow.. was still scrolled
14:41 HardPhuck fred does page 19 has pages with subpages?
14:43 beli idevelop: did you solve the condition problem?
14:52 ndee tt_news with workspaces is seriously flawed :(
14:52 nkuttler ndee: you have the source :)
14:53 ndee nkuttler: yes, but I find it kinda ugly to hack into tt_news. And then, I can't upgrade to new versions.
14:53 ndee so it is a pain somehow.
14:53 nkuttler ndee: that's why you should submit patches i guess
14:53 ndee but I'm afraid :D
14:53 nkuttler i'm sure the maintainer would appreciate it
14:53 ndee I somehow always think people will laugh about my code haha
14:54 m4rtijn hehe
14:54 nkuttler ndee: he may not even be aware of the problem
14:54 m4rtijn the downside of open-source .. programmer shyness
14:54 ndee the problem is, to fix it, I have to hardcode the SQL and can't use the API functions, because that pidInList thing is kina stupid :D
14:54 nkuttler ndee: so what? worst case: your patch gets rejected. second worst: he fixes your patch ;)
14:54 nkuttler ah
14:55 ndee pidInList ignores values that are > 0 but draft entries have the pid -1
14:55 ndee I meant < 0
14:57 ndee so there are only ugly solutions.
14:58 ndee how can I write a patch for tt_news?
15:00 ndee is there really no tt_news "Project" in the bugtracker'
15:00 ndee ah, weird named :D
15:07 tHeoNE powermail anyone?
15:08 tHeoNE is there any way to create email forms with double opt-in?
15:08 tHeoNE PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEE Help...
15:11 tHeoNE is there any WORTHFULL typo3 forums...
15:11 tHeoNE There is a big lack on getting help on typo3
15:11 tHeoNE can anybody help here, or am I wating my time?
15:12 m4rtijn did u pick a number at the entrance?
15:13 m4rtijn I have #10112
15:13 m4rtijn already waiting 3 days
15:16 m4rtijn hehe.. I scared him
15:21 nkuttler :)
15:22 nkuttler i guess people who need support should hire someone competent
15:24 beli lol
15:28 Dynamike lol @ m4rtijn
15:31 m4rtijn hmm, I just made a calculation for an extreme gamer desktop pc.. hehe
15:31 m4rtijn 4200 Euros
15:32 ndee that's pretty extreme :D
15:33 m4rtijn yeah.. only the cpu is 1250 euros
15:33 ndee I'd rather get me a big fullhd screen + PS3 :D
15:34 m4rtijn yeah the cpu has a price/performance ratio of 17%.. according to chip.de which does quite intense research
15:35 m4rtijn quad core 3200 Ghz with 1600 FSB
15:35 m4rtijn and 12mb l2 cache.. :p
15:35 m4rtijn 130 Watt.. lol for CPU
15:37 Denyerec does it play the game FOR you ?
15:37 Denyerec bloody should for that price
15:37 m4rtijn and give a footmassage simultaneously
15:43 Denyerec Yer!
15:43 Denyerec (And the rest...)
15:43 m4rtijn give a HardPhuck ?
15:43 Denyerec Hahaha
15:43 Denyerec My 8800 and core duo managed Crysis:Warhead at a nice level of detail, so I'm happy for now :)
15:44 Denyerec (Shame the game was way too short, way too shallow and way too easy)
15:44 m4rtijn i agree
15:44 m4rtijn soon fallout3 is coming out..
15:44 m4rtijn apparently 28 th octobre
15:44 m4rtijn ... Graaah
15:44 m4rtijn i need to take 2 weeks holliday
15:44 m4rtijn :P
15:46 Denyerec Thing is...
15:47 Denyerec Anything that cross-ports to console
15:47 Denyerec will run on a mediocre PC
15:47 m4rtijn and.. still waiting for starcraft2.. i need at least 2 months holliday for that
15:47 Denyerec Hence why no Xbox Crysis
15:47 Denyerec cos they can't get Crysis to run inside a frame
15:47 Denyerec not enough power in the Xbox
15:47 Denyerec They spend ages optimising the engine for Warhead, but I still don't think they can push it onto consoles.
15:47 Denyerec They're simply not up to the task
15:48 m4rtijn hmm.. I dunno about that.. but fallout3 doesnt need xtreme grahics.. its the gameplay which is extremely good
15:48 m4rtijn I hope
15:52 Denyerec Well, take it from me, an XBox cannot handle crysis
15:52 Denyerec End of story, pretty much.
15:52 Denyerec Hence their development path with Warhead. Though it remains to be seen if even that level of optimisaiton was sufficient to get it running within a 30 frame
15:58 ndee anyone knows if the maintainer of tt_news is in this channel? Or what's the best way to reach him?
15:59 lilalinux The file "/var/www/typo3conf/ext/user_fitzefatze/pi1/locallang.xml" is no TYPO3 language file!
16:00 lilalinux I created an extension with kickstarter and SAV
16:00 lilalinux after inserting the plugin I get the above error
16:00 idevelop hi guys
16:00 idevelop how do i configure realurl to give me links to subpages like /page/subpage.html ?
16:01 idevelop right now, to get a nice url, i have to manually set Alias
16:01 idevelop and they're all like www.domain.com/alias.html
16:01 idevelop no structure
16:04 lilalinux this is my locallang.xml: http://rafb.net/p/I8tjdO64.html
16:04 ndee I'm just reading manual-doc_core_api_4-0-0.pdf about versioning. It says "Make sure never to select any record with pid = -1. The point is, draft versions of records have pid=-1.
16:09 m4rtijn ndee - hmm.. doesnt sound like a good solution
16:11 ndee m4rtijn: I'm just wondering if tt_news and using the draft workspace works. If I _know_ it doesn't work, I start to look for a workaround.
16:23 nkuttler ndee: maintainer should be in the docs
16:23 ndee I'm writing a mail to the english mailing list.
16:28 beli idevelop: solved your CONDITIONAL problem?
16:33 ndee the mailing list not working?
16:41 ries2 ndee: I know there are problems...
16:41 ries2 and luc 'might' work on it
16:41 ries2 I always get 2 bounces for each mail I send to typo3-english
16:54 ndee ries2: I see, my message also got sent twice, but that could be a mess up on my part.
16:54 ndee ries2: you still make a lot of sites with typo3?
16:57 ries2 ndee: I don't make any site with typo3 anymore... at least not for the last year
16:58 ndee ries2: you use another CMS or you're not into making webpages anymore? :)
16:58 ries2 no t making websites....
16:58 ries2 I do a lot of RIA's using adobe flex
17:04 m4rtijn ria ?
17:05 m4rtijn ah, rich internet app
17:12 ries m4rtijn: yeaaaa it's quite interesting...
17:13 m4rtijn just looking at a tutorial vid..
17:15 m4rtijn .. cool
17:18 ries void: uch....
17:19 m4rtijn hmm ries.. interesting stuff
17:20 ries void: I could never make anything more rich then showing a datagrid and a couple of input fields
17:23 m4rtijn for data visualisation that flex stuff is quite need
17:24 void i have no need in visualization...
17:24 void currently.
17:24 m4rtijn me neither.. not yet
17:24 m4rtijn maybe in some future projects.. I keep this in mind
17:25 void grids, inputs, forms, windows, etc.. - extjs makes it possible and simple enough
17:26 ries void: what about input forms and such??
17:26 void ries: and input forms..
17:27 void ries: i can show what i'm currently working on
17:27 void if you wish
17:27 ries sure....
17:29 m4rtijn me me me
17:29 m4rtijn pick me
17:30 m4rtijn .. erm I mean.. im also interested
17:30 void hm.. i do not want to url be public
17:31 void and passwords)
17:31 m4rtijn .. I wont tell anyone..
17:31 m4rtijn promise
17:31 m4rtijn except maybe my bff
17:32 m4rtijn and.. my grandmother.. I tell her everything
17:32 m4rtijn hmm, and my dog
17:32 void i've sent into private
17:33 m4rtijn ty
17:36 ndee ries: I still make some websites but the longer I think about it, I maybe start with a framework like django/RoR/cakephp instead of using typo3 because sometimes, it just feels like... the 90s
17:36 m4rtijn I like the 90s
17:36 m4rtijn they were funky
17:37 ndee I liked the music
17:37 m4rtijn ;)
17:37 ndee :D
17:37 ries ndee: if you use typo3 mainly to show context from a plugin... then a other system might be better indeed
17:37 ries if you use a lot of CMS features then TYPO3 rocks...
17:38 ndee ries: yes, for a simple webpage, typo3 is awesome but yes, as you said, displaying context from a plugin, another system is better
17:38 ndee ries: also just for tt_news in that case... it's sometimes so not straight forward and I think in the last couple of years, some frameworks have gotten really sweet.
17:39 ries I agree
17:40 ndee but I'm wondering if I should dive into django (python) or some other language instead of staying with php.
17:44 void ndee: ruby is for those who loves unlimited freedom, python is for those who loves logicality...
17:45 ndee void: hhhhmmmm, I love freedom :D
17:45 ndee void: I have some experience with rails so :D does it run already thru apache?
17:46 void ndee: dunno... i stay with python and django
17:46 void who needs apache these days anyway? nginx/lighy
17:46 ndee void: so you like logicality? :)
17:46 void ndee: yees
17:47 void if you have freedom to do something in different ways...
17:47 ndee we use it for everything php :)
17:47 void you'll get perl
17:49 ndee hm, perl "feels" also like the 90s :D I want the new kid on the block :d
17:50 ndee I might take a look at django. Do you run that thru nginx?
17:50 void yes, on production
17:50 void and built-in server for development
17:50 ndee ok
17:53 ndee void: interesting comments: http://jim.roepcke.com/7642
17:59 void ndee: i've never tryed rails =)
17:59 ndee kk :D
18:01 void ndee: btw, django have migrations... article is a bit outdated.
18:04 ndee void: kk
18:06 lilalinux How do I let a frontend plugin appear on all pages of a given TV template?
18:09 ndee have a great weekend guys & gals
18:13 lilalinux any templavoila experts hanging around?
18:15 Denyerec I'm no expert
18:15 Denyerec but if the question is basic enough I might appear as such
18:15 Denyerec ;)
18:16 lilalinux lol
18:16 lilalinux How do I let a frontend plugin appear on all pages of a given TV template?
18:17 Denyerec map part of the template as a typoscript object path
18:17 lilalinux I found something but don't have a clue what it means: "FTB describes it. You need to us TS object path."
18:18 Denyerec give the TSOp a name, like tv.fred
18:18 Denyerec then you'd need to map to that in your TS Setup
18:18 Denyerec tv.fred < my.plugin
18:18 Denyerec Well you know how you map normal content elements?
18:18 lilalinux yes
18:18 Denyerec When you choose the content element type one of thos is for a TSOP
18:18 Denyerec Typoscript Object Path == TSOP
18:18 lilalinux IC
18:18 lilalinux thx
18:18 Denyerec select that, update, and a box will appear asking for the name of the TSOP
18:19 Denyerec it defaults to lib.myobject I think
18:19 Denyerec you can call it what you want,
18:19 Denyerec my convention is to name all TV TSOP's tv.something
18:19 Denyerec that way I know what I'm dealing with in the TS setip.
18:19 Denyerec stup
18:19 Denyerec setup
18:19 lilalinux thx
18:19 lilalinux you ARE an expert, right? :-)
18:20 Denyerec Nope.
18:20 Denyerec Rank amateur.
18:20 Denyerec But lucky for you, a rank amateur who had to solve this problem many moons ago too :)
18:21 Denyerec Dmitry is an expert.
18:22 ries Dmitry is strange
18:22 Denyerec Hehe
18:22 Denyerec Well, he refuses to acknowlege me on account of my name
18:22 Denyerec So I'll give you that one... ;)
18:26 Denyerec Heyhey dokma
18:32 lilalinux Denyerec: I only have "Element" "Container" and "Attributes"
18:33 Denyerec yeah
18:33 Denyerec Element
18:33 lilalinux Ah, under "Editing Type" I can choose TSOP
18:33 Denyerec then in the element TYPE you check TSOP
18:33 Denyerec i'm off to training now so I will catch you all in a few hours
18:34 dokma Denyerec: hey mate
18:49 dinsdale07 has someone already some comments on the new community extension on forge?
19:16 HardPhuck have no fear HP is here!
19:16 HardPhuck :D
19:16 MyGoddess :)
19:20 ries anybody happen to have a list of 20.000.000 dutch sentences??
19:21 MyGoddess Why so many ?
19:21 ries 1000.000 is also good for a starter....
19:21 ries I need to make a little system that needs dutch sentences
19:21 ries but for statistical perpose I need a lot different
19:22 MyGoddess stats on letters, isn't it ? or words ?
19:23 ries on words
19:23 ries and combinatoin of words
19:35 dinsdale07 ries, maybe get a dutch book from google docs and split it with unix commandline tools into a list.
19:35 evermin you could parse words from a dutch homepage into a file;)
19:36 evermin even automated, php;)
19:36 ries yeaaa I am planning to do that
19:36 ries some news papers and blogs
19:41 HardPhuck reis you need dutch? what is wrong with lorem ipsum? :)
19:58 johnfulton typo3 newbie w/ quick question about how typo3 stores page content
19:58 just2b in table tt_content
20:00 johnfulton great, found that, does typo3 natively use tables to format content or is that up to user input?
20:01 just2b you mean the output? shouldnt be any tables if you use css_styled_Content and not content(default)
20:02 johnfulton the tt_content table is just full of table formatted content... i guess this was decision of the user putting content in.
20:03 just2b i cant see it, so i cant tell you
20:07 johnfulton one more question, are page titles also stored in tt_content. I'm assuming that page content consists of title and body, title probably used for links in nav?
20:07 evermin tt_content is a table with content
20:08 evermin or what did you mean?
20:08 just2b pages in table pages
20:08 evermin *g*
20:08 evermin aight
20:08 MyGoddess evermin, content is part of total content.
20:08 evermin yes
20:08 evermin and all content is in the management system
20:08 evermin so the overall
20:08 evermin i guess thats why we call typo3 a cms;)
20:09 MyGoddess I mean, of each page content.
20:09 johnfulton I get it... i'm trying to export page content into a format that I can import to another system
20:09 johnfulton so would like to create a file of page title and page body
20:09 evermin try the csv funct of mysql
20:09 evermin i guess youre using mysql
20:09 johnfulton yes
20:09 MyGoddess johnfulton, I think it's a bad idea :)
20:10 evermin page title is in pages, page body is in tt_content (for the non 3rd party ext part)
20:10 johnfulton so I'd have to write a custom join sql to get them together.
20:10 evermin if you want a default solution, which you dont have to customize for each typo3 page, id rather use a parser script, and read text inside p's into body, and h2 or h3 into title
20:10 evermin prolly more effective
20:11 evermin of course, considering that designers did it right, and used html markers
20:11 evermin markers/tags
20:12 johnfulton_ just to be clear the page title is not included in bodytext in tt_content.
20:12 evermin yea
20:13 evermin thats why he either need to read from pages and tt_content + 3rd party ext tables, or parse the pages through php
20:13 evermin ;)
20:13 HardPhuck how can i add some padding to the flexform at the plugin configuration those fields are too close to each other
20:13 just2b so make your simple join and you are happy
20:13 evermin it really depends on the use case whats more practicable
20:13 just2b HardPhuck change the css of typo3
20:13 johnfulton_ what's 3rd party ext tables and how would i know them by looking at the database tables?
20:14 evermin open your phpmyadmin, check for tx_something tables
20:14 HardPhuck i thought it can be done with some configuration of flexforms :/
20:14 johnfulton_ gotcha thanks
20:15 just2b HardPhuck you can write userfuncs to style certain elements but this is not very handy
20:15 HardPhuck yeah and too much work for 5px :D
20:16 just2b write a patch ;)
20:16 HardPhuck lol well i'm just finishing my first extension for typo3 so i'm no expert :)
20:16 just2b ;)
20:16 lilalinux When I use TemplateVoila with TSOP, how do I configure the plugin? My setup contains: tv.sammlung < plugin.tx_savlibraryexample2_pi1, but this is a reference to the pluging itself, not a configured instance. How do I e.g. select a form (it's a SAV plugin)
20:17 evermin your first ext, and already using flexforms, impressive
20:17 evermin my first one was like a living static bug
20:17 MyGoddess ^^
20:17 just2b i wrote yesterday my last ext ;)
20:18 HardPhuck not only flexforms, mm relations also, and something im most proud of, categories with treeview
20:18 just2b ^^
20:18 evermin =)
20:18 HardPhuck just2b really, no more extensions from you? :D
20:18 evermin sweet
20:18 evermin im still missing the pong extension for the backend...
20:18 just2b not the last in my life, just the last one i did ;)
20:18 just2b pong? g
20:18 HardPhuck yeah just kidding ;)
20:18 MyGoddess ^^
20:19 lilalinux When I try the above typoscript object path I only get: "Edit and save the plugin configuration to take the flexform parameters into consideration"
20:19 HardPhuck just2b can i ask you something in priv
20:19 HardPhuck not a technical q
20:19 evermin he wants to know f/m*g*
20:19 HardPhuck lol
20:19 lilalinux evermin: ASL :-)
20:19 just2b male and got a gf ;)
20:19 MyGoddess lilalinux, it seems the plugin could only be used through really adding it to tt_content.
20:19 HardPhuck so do i, so not that kind of question :)
20:19 just2b HardPhuck but yeah, just ask
20:20 just2b sure you can send me money! ;)
20:20 lilalinux MyGoddess: no workaround?
20:20 lilalinux can't I reference an existing instance?
20:21 lilalinux or configure the plugin manually?
20:21 MyGoddess lilalinux, take a look at the extensions' code if it supports typoscript options or... maybe creating a content, reference it from typoscript using the CONTENT cobject and linking the renderObject to tt_content node.
20:22 evermin lilalinux, 30,male,austria
20:22 lilalinux moo
20:23 evermin my irc'ish is a bit rusty
20:23 lilalinux MyGoddess: thx
20:26 johnfulton_ i'm selecting PID and Title from page and I was expecting to see a unique PID per Title..I don't, how is PID used?
20:27 johnfulton_ looks like a position in nav hierarchy?
20:27 evermin use the id rather than the pid
20:27 MyGoddess pid isn't page id, it's parent id. However, it is still a page id ;)
20:27 evermin yeah john
20:27 evermin was it id, or uid, geez, im rusty
20:28 johnfulton_ looks like uid is what i want thanks.
20:35 johnfulton_ ok... having trouble I'm looking for what the "key" is between page and tt_content table
20:35 just2b tt_content.pid = pages.uid
20:35 johnfulton_ how does a record in tt_content know that it should display for a certain "page"
20:36 johnfulton_ ah... great..
20:36 johnfulton_ thanks.
20:36 just2b np
20:38 lilalinux MyGoddess: Any idea, how to find out if the extension supports typoscript options?
20:39 just2b check the code
20:39 just2b or the manual
20:39 evermin lilalinux, pi1/class...... check for $this->conf
20:39 lilalinux thx
20:39 evermin or cm/class or whatever...
20:39 lilalinux pi1
20:40 foool just2be I put imagegallery in typo3 4.21 but images don't show is this a common prob, any ideas?
20:40 evermin pi1 it is in 99% of the cases, cm is for click menu....
20:40 evermin or mod for backend
20:40 evermin what does pi actually stand for btw?
20:40 foool just2b i mean
20:40 foool typing is grrr!!
20:40 just2b foool yeah great.. which ext... foool...
20:41 foool imagegallery
20:41 just2b evermin how many exts use TS in be?
20:41 just2b dont know it
20:41 just2b why are you asking me?
20:41 evermin i havent found one yet, just;)
20:41 evermin but that doesnt say a thing
20:41 evermin with over 2000 of em
20:41 just2b ts is for fe ;)
20:41 evermin i hardly used 500 of em so far
20:41 evermin i bet theres a hook for ts in be
20:41 evermin somehow
20:41 foool sgsmoothgallery
20:41 evermin everythings possible;)
20:41 just2b dont know sgsmoothgallery either
20:42 foool okay
20:42 evermin check ext name in typo3conf/ext foool
20:42 evermin can identify the bugger by that;)
20:43 foool SmoothGallery for TYPO3 rgsmoothgallery 1.5.0 how's that?
20:43 evermin ok
20:43 evermin yah
20:43 just2b that is mine
20:43 evermin =)
20:43 evermin theres daddy
20:44 HardPhuck what does $this->internal mean
20:44 just2b no just the dev.. dont care that much ;)
20:44 foool i need a drink
20:44 just2b HardPhuck depends on your code
20:44 HardPhuck $this->internal['currentRow']['uid']
20:44 evermin $this->internal means a setting which comes from core and you can change it this way
20:45 HardPhuck aha
20:45 evermin $this->internal['currentRow']['uid'] <--- your extensions table, current row, the uid of that
20:45 evermin is inside that one
20:45 foool jiust2b did everything in the manual but images don't show - just the scrolling bar
20:46 evermin foool, you got images in the folder?
20:46 foool yes
20:46 HardPhuck yeah that i know just wanted to check where 'internal' comes from
20:46 just2b can be still anything... other js framework, are the paths in src-tag ...
20:46 foool permissions are okay
20:46 evermin foool, permissions on the imags?
20:46 evermin foool, included the static template thingy?
20:46 foool yep
20:47 evermin foool, checked that all typoscript or flexforms settings are right for ya?
20:47 evermin foool, tried to disable other static templates or ext's?
20:47 foool I thought slimbox was a prob so I took it out
20:47 foool i think so
20:47 evermin are you using static file cache, did you clear caches, did you compare db...
20:48 just2b lol @ evermin
20:49 foool yes did all that
20:49 just2b just page the url
20:49 foool the path is okay and if I do a direct path http:// the images show
20:49 just2b guessing is boring
20:50 evermin foool, may we, or the father of the ext might have a look?
20:50 foool just a sec yes
20:51 foool got a warning to stop using the script in explorer
20:51 foool http://hockeyheritagenorth.ca/cms/index.php?id=489
20:51 evermin lol
20:51 foool not funny :)
20:51 evermin ok, try to use a real browser, like ff3, and check the gallery again;)
20:51 foool i have
20:52 evermin not to get into religious ones, but explorer, geez
20:52 just2b ah this is a bug i could never reproduce
20:52 just2b play with the settings and it will dissapear at some times
20:53 evermin i can see a pic there
20:53 evermin if i switch on js, it disappears
20:53 evermin my guess, you have a js conflict
20:53 evermin try to disable all other js on the page
20:53 evermin ;)
20:54 lilalinux MyGoddess: $this->conf is set. When configuring the plugin via pagecontent the form field's name is "data[tt_content][252][pi_flexform][data][sDEF][lDEF][formId][vDEF]". Do you know that part of that could be the key to use in my TSOP? e.g. plugin.tx_savlibraryexample2_pi1.whatkeyhere?
20:54 evermin you got the indexed search autocomplete somewhere on page? that was conflicting for me with rgsmoothgallery
20:54 MyGoddess it has no direct relations.
20:54 just2b lilalinux use internal functions to get the data out of the flexforms
20:55 MyGoddess just2b, that's not the question.
20:55 evermin your two buggers @ foool : <script type="text/javascript" src="typo3temp/javascript_a708894199.js"></script>
20:55 evermin <script type="text/javascript" src="typo3conf/ext/t3mootools/res/mootoolsv1.11.js"></script>
20:55 evermin disable em
20:55 lilalinux just2b: I'm trying to configure it
20:55 just2b $flexform = $this->pi_getFFvalue($this->cObj->data['pi_flexform'], $key, $sheet);
20:56 foool oh! how?
20:56 just2b evermin this is correct
20:56 foool evermin it is beyond me
20:56 evermin try disable t3mootools ext
20:56 evermin then:
20:57 evermin config.removeDefaultJS = 1
20:57 evermin or was it page.config.removeDefaultJS = 1
20:57 evermin in your ts setup
20:57 just2b wtf why disabling mootools
20:57 evermin then clear cache, and you should be doing
20:57 evermin for testing, just2b
20:57 evermin could be the bugger
20:57 evermin in his case...
20:58 foool it was mootools
20:58 evermin =)
20:58 evermin have to find a way to disable mootools on page with gallery
20:58 evermin i bet theres a nice typoscript way, something with tsfe id or pidinrootline
20:59 evermin and yes, its a workaround, but do you want to debug js?
20:59 evermin i mean, want
20:59 just2b lol, smoothgallery NEEDS mootools
21:00 evermin it prolly comes with its own, right?
21:00 foool it is working now fine without it
21:00 just2b lol ;)
21:00 evermin as i thought, smoothgallery has its own mootools version included
21:00 just2b normally mootools is fine ;)
21:00 just2b but mea culpa
21:01 evermin thats so zen, hehehe
21:01 foool thanks evermin
21:01 evermin np
21:04 evermin just asking the ppls in charge, maybe....
21:04 evermin do you have something like a revamp of indexed search in the plans?
21:04 evermin just curious
21:05 just2b asking me?
21:05 just2b there will be updates to indexed_Search with imo 4.3 or so
21:05 evermin dunno, everyone involved into the t3 core thingy
21:05 evermin ahh, oki
21:05 evermin =)
21:05 just2b here are no core people :D
21:05 HardPhuck at which point should i $this->pi_initPIflexForm();
21:05 HardPhuck in an extension
21:05 evermin i guess they do what we all should on a friday eve, go out n have some life;)
21:06 just2b HardPhuck before checking flexfroms
21:06 just2b i got my life before, now i write some manuals which are never read by anyone
21:06 evermin lol
21:06 evermin word on that
21:06 HardPhuck so in the method that checks the flexform values
21:06 just2b if you are calling the methode more than 1x, somewhere before ;)
21:06 evermin i remember having one or two bug entries on things explained in manuals myself *ashamed*
21:07 HardPhuck is flexform loaded in the tables.php?
21:07 just2b ext_tables.php
21:07 HardPhuck $TCA['tt_content']['types']['list']['subtypes_addlist'][$_EXTKEY.'_pi1']='pi_flexform';
21:07 HardPhuck like this
21:07 just2b yes
21:08 HardPhuck which means all classes already have access and i dont need to define it in each
21:08 HardPhuck am i right
21:08 just2b ?
21:08 just2b what do you want to access where?
21:08 just2b this just tells typo that you are using flexforms
21:08 HardPhuck ah okay, so i still need to put $this->pi_initPIflexForm(); into my methods
21:10 just2b sure
21:18 HardPhuck crap i just cant access the ff values, that's strange
21:18 just2b then you are doing something wrong.. set the sheet too?
21:18 just2b case sensitive btw
21:19 just2b i just did this http://forge.typo3.org/issues/show/1647 if something interesteds
21:19 HardPhuck ah lol $this->cObj->data['pi_flexform'], instead i made $this->flexform
21:19 MyGoddess hehe
21:20 HardPhuck well, learning bit by bit
21:22 MyGoddess You are not yet using html templates and markers.
21:22 HardPhuck you are right
21:23 HardPhuck well i don't need them for this extension as i will use it on sites that i'm the admin of
21:25 HardPhuck or maybe i will use them, just to learn, i guess weekend is great for learning :)
21:26 MyGoddess ^^
21:27 MyGoddess Well, it can be usefull if the extension is placed at multiple location and have to display differently ;)
21:27 MyGoddess Or just to be able to publish it :)
21:28 just2b templates are always useful, even if you do the ext just once
21:28 just2b everything else is a mess
21:28 MyGoddess you're right
21:28 HardPhuck well i decided i will publish this ext on TER so i will make templates and some TS
21:36 evermin there should be a "with templates" option in kickstarter
21:36 evermin )
21:36 HardPhuck lol
21:36 evermin its funny, looking at 3rd party ext, everyone does the template thingy different
21:36 just2b and every ext should have rewrite rules for realurl
21:37 evermin dunno how important realurl really is nowadays
21:37 evermin i use it on a few projects, but merely cause customer wanted it
21:37 just2b urls get shorter, better readable and seo better
21:37 just2b can create rss urls which are better
21:37 evermin yah, but some of the pages i dunno if anyone would google some of the content up
21:38 just2b you can put keywords in the url and i see it works quite well
21:38 just2b and i really need it always ;)
21:38 evermin ahh, oki
21:38 evermin i have it with my private page, so dont get me wrong...
21:38 just2b i also can remember www.rgooglemap.com/dev/wall-of-fame.html far better ;)
21:39 just2b or any other page ;)
21:39 evermin im usually bad at remembering, i love the thing though if you have /en/ in browser, and can just do /de/
21:40 evermin but then again, when did i have the last time a customer where i really wanted to read the content
21:40 evermin ok, im going off the road, hehehe
21:40 johnfulton_ is there a field in the Pages table that tells you whether the page is "live" or not?
21:40 just2b checkbox > hidden?
21:40 evermin hidden/deleted
21:40 evermin those both
21:40 johnfulton_ thakns
21:41 just2b deletet is kind of too late isn't it
21:41 MyGoddess johnfulton_, in which workspace it is ?
21:41 evermin lol, deleted safed me alot of time with some things
21:41 evermin when customer, once again, had too big permissions, and deleted trees
21:42 johnfulton_ I'm looking to pull only the current "live" page records from the pages table.
21:44 MyGoddess t3ver_wsid
21:46 MyGoddess t3ver_oid = 0
21:46 evermin sweet, nother thing learned=)
21:57 johnfulton_ what is t3ver_oid used for?
22:01 MyGoddess It means, typo3 versioning original id.
22:02 johnfulton_ and t3ver_oid = 0 means that the record is "live"
22:04 MyGoddess It not directly means that, to my pov, but its alike. If you really wants to check the workspace, use the other one I mentionned.
22:05 HardPhuck never used workspaces before, where are they usable?
22:06 johnfulton niether pages nor tt_content have a field named t3ver_wsid
22:06 MyGoddess there is a drop down telling about the current workspace in the backend interface.
22:06 johnfulton i just have the database.
22:07 MyGoddess I just checked on tt_content...
22:08 johnfulton maybe i have an older version. i've got t3ver_oid
22:08 johnfulton t3ver_id
22:08 johnfulton t3ver_label
22:09 MyGoddess strange.
22:09 MyGoddess can you pust the table structure you have ?
22:09 johnfulton sure
22:10 MyGoddess *paste
22:12 MyGoddess XD
22:15 MyGoddess no johnfulton
22:15 MyGoddess website in the topic for pasting
22:16 johnfulton sorry, complete newb... you talking about a typo 3 support forum?
22:16 MyGoddess no
22:17 MyGoddess in the channel topic, the paste site
22:20 MyGoddess johnfulton, this one : http://paste.phlogi.net/
22:21 johnfulton thanks. http://paste.phlogi.net/tt_content/
22:24 MyGoddess which typo3 version ?
22:28 johnfulton lemme try to see in the database..
22:28 MyGoddess You do not have access to the web site ?
22:28 MyGoddess it is written in the default redered pages.
22:28 johnfulton nope.. i know.
22:29 johnfulton ok.
22:29 MyGoddess You do not have the files to ?
22:29 johnfulton don't see a version but "copyright 1998-2005"
22:31 MyGoddess outch
22:31 johnfulton basically the page table has to have a key that the tt_content table uses to display the correct content. Hidden and Deleted and CTYPE = text all reduce the amount of records pulled for a tt_content PID, but I can't see anything that tells me "this is the one being displayed as the live page"
22:31 MyGoddess maybe a pre typo3 4 :)
22:32 MyGoddess johnfulton, you just have to think the other way : this is not the one displayed live.
22:34 johnfulton but tt_content is full of records with the same PID, only 1 must be displayed as the page's content on the live site.
22:35 MyGoddess Hum, the pid of a draft is -1.
22:35 MyGoddess johnfulton, you're false
22:36 johnfulton :)
22:36 MyGoddess On a page, there are multiple content rendered.
22:36 MyGoddess the sorting columns tell about the order.
22:37 johnfulton so all the records returned for a single PID witht hidden AND deleted = 0 are displayed on the live page.
22:37 MyGoddess yes.
22:38 johnfulton it's not one record but many... yikes that makes my job even more difficult.
22:38 johnfulton thanks for helping me understand this...
22:39 MyGoddess np
22:51 lilalinux I created an extension with kickstarter/SAV, it already works with showAll showSingle and input. But how do I get a search result form?
22:52 wacky__ is there a way to remove the TemplaVoila preview on the front-end (that box showing in the top-left corner, that flashes when mouse-hovering) ?
23:18 void wacky__: yes
23:19 void wacky__: do you use workspaces?
23:19 wacky__ do you have any pointer to how ?
23:19 wacky__ yes :P
23:22 void page.10.disableExplosivePreview = 1
23:22 void try that
23:37 HardPhuck The file "/Users/<removed>/Sites/devel2/typo3conf/ext/schoolcourses/locallang_tca.xml" is no TYPO3 language file!
23:37 HardPhuck what does this mean?
23:38 MyGoddess HardPhuck, you have edited it using extension manager, isn't it ?
23:38 HardPhuck nope doing it by hand
23:39 MyGoddess check it is UTF8 without BOM
23:40 tomyN anyone here?
23:41 tomyN how do I best backup a Typo3 site?
23:41 HardPhuck ah lol i have foreign characters in it need to go to install tool to allow utf-8
23:42 tomyN so far I always exported td3 and downloaded the sql file, but nothing else. cool or crap?

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