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07:36 chriz___ question: if a typo3 installation uses an link to for example index.1.html and this is handled not as a physical file called "index.1.html" could anyone point me in the right direction to where to look for where it handles this request?
07:51 nd__ chriz___: It's internally rewritten to index.php and handled there...
07:58 chriz___ nd__: hehe I was guessing that great info, do you know where it is rewritten cause I get an 404 not found on one of these for some reason
08:01 chriz___ nd__: the url is the same but different filename search.1.html instead of index.1.html or is search.1.html rewritten to some other php file aka search.php ?
08:02 nd__ No. Normally all internal uris end up in index.php
08:02 chriz___ nd__: Ok i will do some debugging
08:02 chriz___ nd__: thanks!
08:25 chriz___ nd__: the rewrite alias name was found in table pages column alias :) cheers!
08:43 foool morning
08:50 nd__ chriz___: hooray
08:55 dokma mornin
08:57 foool hi
08:57 foool any ext builders here
08:59 dokma yup
09:11 maholtz|WORK mornint
09:11 maholtz|WORK grmbl - morning
10:09 kaktuspalme hi all
10:14 HardPhuck hey every1
10:22 elbart hiho HardPhuck :)
10:33 HardPhuck :)
10:42 dokma anyone had trouble getting lumogooglemaps to look the same in FF and IE in 4.2.1 ?
10:42 dokma works good in 4.1.7
10:47 kaktuspalme Templating is so much work :(
10:48 sxsde hey guys, i have a problem with the gmenu, it dosent acept ATagTitle on my live system but on the staging system its work, anyone a idea?
10:48 sxsde (argh its a tmenu not a gmenu)
10:53 kaktuspalme how many subpart Arrays can i gibe substituteMarkerArray?
11:12 HardPhuck where can i force all BE users to have some language
11:13 sxsde set a default language?
11:19 MyGoddess HardPhuck, sets the default language of your installation. and then the language of the existing users. The news users will have the installation default language.
11:21 MyGoddess Does anyone have a idea why on a page I got the language keys in the good language and on another I got them in the default language ? The typoscript for language is exactly the same on both pages.
11:31 nd__ Anyone knows another extension than itxg_staticexport to export a static version of my typo3 site?
11:33 maholtz|WORK wget?
11:34 nkuttler untouch: rtfm, http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/10/2/
11:34 maholtz|WORK or do you want to increase speed by file-caching?
11:34 nd__ ah, well, not that but I agree
11:34 nkuttler untouch: and prease ask your questions here :)
11:35 nd__ Nay, I want to replace the t3 with static html because the site is outdated, can still be online but dead.
11:35 maholtz|WORK @nd__ than wget would be perfect - or i am wrong?
11:35 nd__ maholtz|WORK: No, I agree... I will work with that.
11:35 nd__ Just didn't think of it.
11:36 maholtz|WORK ah, ok:)
11:58 No5251 hi
11:58 No5251 does somebody know the error "Failed opening required '../../../../typo3/init.php' " in backend modules?
12:01 nkuttler file permissions? just a guess. check the server logs
12:13 maholtz|WORK installed extension as system, global or local? perhaps change that...
12:17 No5251 nkuttler: permissions are correct, other extensions work and there are no entries in the error log
12:18 No5251 installed as local extension
12:22 nkuttler No5251: no error in the logs?
12:23 No5251 no. thats one of my problems ...
12:23 No5251 every other error will be logged
12:24 No5251 could it be a symlink problem?
12:25 beli hi, howto do a redirect like foo.domain.de -> foo.domain.de/somepageid... i heared it is possible, but cant find the page to edit it
12:26 No5251 it was a f* symlink problem
12:35 maholtz|WORK @beli: domain records
12:35 beli yeah, but where? i have list--->rootdir....and theres nothing about domain records
12:36 maholtz|WORK list modul
12:36 maholtz|WORK create new record
12:37 lilalinux Hey guys, I need to write a plugin that lists all (direct) subpages of the current page with a short preview of their contents, i.e. the number of elements of a given type. Do you have a starter for me?
12:37 maholtz|WORK you could do it via typoscript
12:37 beli maholtz|WORK: thanks...
12:38 maholtz|WORK combine HMENU
12:38 maholtz|WORK with CONTENT
12:38 lilalinux thx
12:38 maholtz|WORK there is a menu content element too - which does some of that you want
12:39 lilalinux gr8
12:39 animan hi. is there a way to limit rss feeds generated by tt_news? i don't want to show a whole news in a feed but a short glimpse
12:40 maholtz|WORK @animan: yep, via typoscript crop
12:44 animan are there some exaples somewhere?
12:45 maholtz|WORK you could write an - search at snippets or wiki
12:52 dokma guys what are the largest TYPO3 sites around?
12:57 Nekdy does anyone know how to add a custom label (### mylabel ###) which extensions use in templates?
12:59 maholtz|WORK @dokma: there was a few years ago an article about an germen tv-magazin, but cant remember which was the name of
12:59 smeringe Nekdy: a bit to generall question, but depends on how the extension is built. If it just matches db fields, then just use them in the template, otherwise you'd need to hack/patch/extend the extension code
12:59 dokma maholtz|WORK: I heard Audi used it somewhere
12:59 dokma but can't find where
13:00 dokma Nekdy: try a bit more specific question
13:00 dokma which ext
13:00 dokma what are you trying to do
13:00 Nekdy plugin.tx_sremailsubscribe_pi1._LOCAL_LANG.en.MyLabel = lalalala
13:01 Nekdy and i added ###LABEL_V_MYLABEL### to template
13:01 Nekdy sry
13:01 Nekdy plugin.tx_sremailsubscribe_pi1._LOCAL_LANG.en.v_MyLabel = lalalala
13:02 Nekdy and it just prints out ###LABEL_V_MYLABEL###
13:02 Nekdy instead of lalala
13:04 Nekdy i don't need and special functionality for the label, it's only for text
13:05 maholtz|WORK @nekdy: you cannot add an new marker if the extension does not support that
13:06 Nekdy jeps
13:06 Nekdy i found it
13:06 Nekdy it's in php file
13:06 Nekdy the list of markers
13:08 Nekdy yupi, works now
13:08 Nekdy but not very convenient, if i update the extension it'll be gone :(
13:10 Nekdy thx everyone
13:43 lilalinux If I hide a page so that it doesn't show up in the navigation, it is displayed as "PREVIEW". Why is that? I just don't want it to appear in the navigation but that doesn't mean it's content is only a preview.
13:43 ries anybody have been reading Extensions need update for 4.3! on TYPO3-dev???
13:44 maholtz|WORK @ries: if i understood correct - only if they use functions other than described in the api
13:45 ries 1)it's about backward compatible....
13:45 ries 2) About documentation
13:45 ries 3) NULL's
13:46 ries 4) and how strict or non strict TYPO3's API is
13:48 HardPhuck is it a train? is it a rocket? is it a plane? NO! It's HardPhuck! :)
13:48 ries hey
13:48 HardPhuck hey :)
13:49 nd__ maholtz|WORK: Well, didn't work that easy with wget. All GET parameters are now part of the filename, which isn't bad but not working in a browser ;)
13:52 ndee does anyone have workspaces running with tt_news?
13:52 kaktuspalme can anyone help me in templating? in a extension? i have much problems :)
13:56 nkuttler ndee: didn't you already ask that a week ago? :)
13:58 kaktuspalme can anyone explain me $this->cObj->substituteMarkerArray?
13:58 ndee nkuttler: still no solution :D
13:58 ndee I'm just wondering why that works with content elements but not with tt_news :(
14:00 kaktuspalme no one? :)
14:00 maholtz|WORK @kaktuspalme: http://typo3.org/fileadmin/typo3api-4.0.0/df/d65/classtslib__cObj.html#dfae97387c34779cbef3b0571756179c
14:03 kaktuspalme maholtz|WORK: hmm, very strange, the third parameter is strange
14:04 maholtz|WORK usually: ###|###
14:04 kaktuspalme maholtz|WORK: yeahh, but in this tutorial i've bought, it makes something totally different, just a second, i make a paste
14:04 maholtz|WORK array: array('field1' => 'value1', 'field2' => 'value2')
14:04 animan damn, still doesn't find a solution to limit the rss feed.. there is a way to crop subheader, but news body still comes with full lenght :/
14:04 maholtz|WORK @animan: it is possible
14:05 maholtz|WORK there is a content_stdWrap or something like that
14:07 nkuttler ndee: i would guess tt_news isn't workspace-aware?
14:07 nkuttler ndee: workspaces wat added in 4.0 or 4.1 iirc, could be
14:07 nkuttler was
14:08 ndee I thought it was added in 4.0
14:08 nkuttler yeah, 4.0
14:08 ndee but wasn't there something like a workflow with tt_news?
14:08 kaktuspalme maholtz|WORK: http://pastebin.com/d2862a2f
14:08 ndee the problem is, just the frontend rendering doesn't work yet.
14:09 kaktuspalme maholtz|WORK: many thx
14:10 maholtz|WORK np:) - there is a difference between ... ArrayCached and pure ...Array
14:10 kaktuspalme maholtz|WORK: damn, i thought its the same, but it doesnt Cache
14:11 kaktuspalme maholtz|WORK: i've read somewhere that none caching is often faster
14:12 kaktuspalme maholtz|WORK: many thx, you saved my soul, it works with Cached
14:13 dokma guys. what's the deal with them numbers getting attached to fileds in resources list
14:13 dokma such as head.png the first time and then head_01.png the second time
14:14 HardPhuck kaktuspalme: where did you get tuttorials
14:14 dokma cause it seems to break my dynamic header code
14:14 dokma void: you know anything about that?
14:15 kaktuspalme HardPhuck: in the bookshop
14:15 kaktuspalme maholtz|WORK: can i buy you?
14:15 void dokma: about what?
14:15 HardPhuck ah :)
14:15 dokma about those numbers being added
14:15 dokma to resources file names
14:16 dokma I'm using dam if it has anything to do with it
14:21 maholtz|WORK @kaktuspalme: :) sry, not really
14:21 maholtz|WORK i am not an freelancer atm
14:22 HardPhuck i need to learn templating too
14:23 maholtz|WORK you both could write an tutorial about that... wiki.typo3.org
14:24 HardPhuck if there is time, why not, just gotta learn it first :D
14:25 kaktuspalme HardPhuck: good luck with templating ;)
14:25 maholtz|WORK write as you learn - if you write it down, you will learn it:)
14:25 maholtz|WORK i did that with typoscript:)
14:25 kaktuspalme i think its a good thing but i hate it, if the template is complex
14:25 HardPhuck you should see the sr_feuserregister template
14:26 HardPhuck maholtz i know, but i will learn on the extension i already made
14:27 kaktuspalme HardPhuck: what extensions have you made, i'm actually learning write extension, i learn it by writing one
14:29 HardPhuck i made a School courses extension where BE users fill courses (with data like title, number, description, literature, tutors, asistants) and asign categories to them (using a category tree like in tt_news), then display them in FE with some configuration in flexforms
14:29 HardPhuck no TS configuration yet and no Templates yet, because i lack the knowledge on both :D
14:32 kaktuspalme HardPhuck: ok, my problems are flexforms :), if we could merge our brain we would have it complete :)
14:33 HardPhuck i'll just go to lunch and we'll talk later (FF are not hard to be honest :))
14:34 HardPhuck oh and if you want to learn in the meantime, install extensions sb_flexword and sb_flexamples
14:34 HardPhuck very educative
14:41 kaktuspalme HardPhuck: thx, but atm i don't need flexforms
14:45 forever Are any ideas how to write selectors (for jQuery) for 2 classes? <div class="class1 class2"></div> I need to select such elements.
14:47 kaktuspalme i'm searching a typo3 function tu give out a day with a timestamp
14:49 kaktuspalme is there any typo3 extension developer channel?
14:50 forever in TypoScript or in ext?
14:50 maholtz|WORK chat? is here:) - newsgroup/maililnglist
14:53 kaktuspalme forever: extension
14:56 forever http://ru2.php.net/manual/ru/function.time.php ? :)
14:57 kaktuspalme forever: yeahh, but no mutlilanguage with the php function
14:58 kaktuspalme support
15:00 dokma void you here
15:00 void yes
15:00 dokma need you for a minute
15:00 dokma that ok
15:00 void ?
15:00 dokma you know the resources tab on the page properties
15:00 dokma where you can add files
15:00 void .
15:00 void yes..
15:01 dokma when I add the same file to more than one page
15:01 hallabalooza23 hi, we recently updated from Typo3 4.1 to 4.2 and Typo3 seems to "forget" or delete some variables in $GLOBALS["TSFE"] and even in $_SESSION each time a new page is called
15:01 dokma the second time it gets a number in filename
15:01 dokma like: head.png head_01.png etc
15:01 dokma this seems to cause my dynamic header code to fail
15:01 dokma do you know why do these numbers appear?
15:02 dokma that's in 4.2.1
15:03 void dokma: because of that is a normal behaviour without DAM.
15:03 forever dokma: maybe destination folder already have file with this name and typo3 rename it with prefix?
15:03 void dokma: if you use DAM, you need to install some extension which makes this "Files": field DAM-compatible
15:04 dokma hmmm
15:04 dokma never heard of that one
15:05 smeringe dokma: all file uploads behave like that.. if you upload files with same filenames in the same "situation" - eg like an extension or whatever..
15:05 smeringe void, doesn't it work like that with DAM as well, unless you got dam_references (or whatever the name is)?
15:05 dokma smeringe: this file is uploaded only once
15:06 dokma but added to the resources tab of two different pages
15:06 smeringe yeah.. then it's uploaded twice..
15:06 dokma I expected that to be a reference to the same file
15:06 smeringe they go into the same fysical folder
15:06 smeringe there are no references in T3 without DAM and the file references ext
15:06 dokma I am using dam
15:07 dokma so seems like I need that ext
15:07 dokma what is the name?
15:08 smeringe dokma: dam_ttcontent
15:09 smeringe you can extend more image fields if you like. that one does it for tt_content images to start with. read the doc
15:09 hallabalooza23 how can I tell Typo to NOT cache a php file included with TypoSchript?
15:09 hallabalooza23 please help
15:16 hallabalooza23 I hope somebody helps me with this: I have a PHP_SCRIPT_INT at the start of the page. It is an INT so it is processed prior to the rest, which is important since it handles DATA which needs to be present to all other objectes. Typo3 now seems to cache the content of this file, which makes it impossible to use changing data from this file (since it is cached and not processed)
15:16 hallabalooza23 what can I do? The script needs to processed first but not cached
15:19 hallabalooza23 hello?
15:27 kaktuspalme no one an idea how i can give out a date with typo3(in a extension), i can't do it with php because of the multilanguage support
15:40 nd__ kaktuspalme: What about the multilanguage support? Why not adjust the date format for every language?
16:03 nd__ Anyone knows an ext to export static html for a page?
16:09 kaktuspalme nd__: i thought the date function in php outputs only in English?
16:10 kaktuspalme ok now i love templating in typo3 :)
16:10 kaktuspalme now it works, yehaaa
16:12 HardPhuck_ i guess your progress is as expected :)
16:12 nd__ kaktuspalme: Nay, it does not... but I see you found out ;)
16:15 nkuttler hm, isn't it possible to add captions to images in a 'text' cobj?
16:16 kaktuspalme nd__: no, the part with the date is still missing :)
16:16 kaktuspalme HardPhuck_: yes
16:16 nkuttler without editing raw html that is
16:19 maholtz|WORK @kaktuspalme: afaik you should use strftime instead of date
16:20 maholtz|WORK because locale-settings ... there was something like that
16:20 maholtz|WORK beside this, you could do it via typoscript: $this->cObj->stdWrap($date,$this->conf['dateConf.']);
16:22 kaktuspalme maholtz|WORK: ok cool, setlocale(LC_TIME, $var) <-- does i have to do that, or does typo3 it for me?
16:23 GeisonQuevedo Hello
16:23 lilalinux How do I hide a page (in a menu) without rendering it as 'PREVIEW'?
16:23 GeisonQuevedo I like create a list and beside of this list(listbox) put the icon to open a new window-pop with to select the page link, file, folder ou set external link. It's possible with a textfield. Is it possible with listbox?
16:24 maholtz|WORK @kaktuspalme: typo3 does it for you
16:25 maholtz|WORK @lilalinux: explain more
16:27 maholtz|WORK @GeisonQuevedo: you write an frontend plugin?
16:27 kaktuspalme maholtz|WORK: cool, thx :)
16:28 GeisonQuevedo yes
16:28 GeisonQuevedo I want set one link to each image when I created a content of the type "Only Image"
16:28 maholtz|WORK you should make your links via typolink-function $this->cObj->typoLink or pi_base functions
16:29 maholtz|WORK so, but it is possible to do it without an extension
16:29 maholtz|WORK use image content element
16:29 wacky__ void: thanks! :) (for the disableExplosivePreview .. on friday :)
16:29 void wacky__: np =)
16:29 maholtz|WORK there is a link field you can seperate the links via space or , or so... not sure about that
16:31 GeisonQuevedo yes, I know about this, but not so simple to the customer
16:32 GeisonQuevedo its no so simple to the customer
16:33 maholtz|WORK afaik it should be possible to change the link-field to an textfield in backend via TCA-manipulation, than alter typoscript rendering of images so that the link will splitted at newline and not at space
16:34 lilalinux maholtz|WORK: If I mark a page as hidden and visit that page, it will contain a text at the top right corner: "PREVIEW"
16:35 maholtz|WORK what is the problem?
16:36 lilalinux The reason I want to hide that page is simply that it shouldn't be listed in the menu
16:36 GeisonQuevedo thanks I will take a look better this option
16:36 lilalinux but that doesn't mean it should be shown as a preview
16:39 maholtz|WORK to hide it from the menu, please use "not in menu" - if you mark a page as hidden nobody can see that page
16:42 maholtz|WORK afk
16:43 lilalinux thx
16:44 lilalinux I must have been blind O_o
16:58 kaktuspalme bye all, till later
17:16 _dougal_ hi all
17:17 _dougal_ I'm looking at the multisite extension... can this be used for managing completely different websites in the same CMS? or is it only really designed for changing languages/themes etc
17:18 HardPhuck_ there is a multisite ext? :)
17:18 nd__ I don't really get the question
17:18 nd__ if `multisite` is a special ext I have to say I never saw it and therefor cannot tell you anything about it.
17:19 _dougal_ HardPhuck_: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/irmultisite/current/
17:19 _dougal_ ok, thanks
17:19 HardPhuck_ ah that's just for coloring i think
17:20 HardPhuck_ you can have multisite without it
17:20 HardPhuck_ i have seperate websites on the same installation there is not a problem
17:20 _dougal_ HardPhuck_: oh really? thats good :D any pointers to get me started?
17:20 _dougal_ thanks
17:21 HardPhuck_ just add a domain to the page you want it to be the root of your website
17:22 HardPhuck_ then add a template to the same page
17:22 HardPhuck_ and that's pretty much it
17:22 HardPhuck_ point the webserver to the typo3 installation
17:22 _dougal_ HardPhuck_: thanks, i'll give it a shot
17:22 HardPhuck_ np
17:23 maholtz|WORK re
17:26 untouch ok i was gonna add a flash headder to my site , if the user has no flash there must me a jpg displayd
17:26 untouch thats possible in typo3?
17:26 HardPhuck_ you can do that without flash
17:26 untouch iver never added a flash movie before does it go by marker?
17:26 HardPhuck_ without typo3
17:26 untouch i know
17:26 untouch i did it with js
17:26 untouch but its not shown in my typo3 site
17:27 untouch on my html version it works tho
17:27 HardPhuck_ add a bg with css
17:27 untouch huh?
17:27 untouch is that a known problem?
17:27 untouch and thats the trick?
17:28 untouch look
17:28 untouch one sec
17:28 HardPhuck_ add a background with css then load the flash file from template or with an extension
17:29 untouch http://paste.phlogi.net/-3aa8d3e802/
17:29 untouch this is what i got in my template
17:29 untouch it works withoit typo3
17:29 untouch but wiht t3 the movie is not shown somehow
17:29 untouch i cannot follow you :(
17:30 maholtz|WORK @untouch: if it works without typo3 but not with typo3 compare html output of your typo3 with your template
17:30 maholtz|WORK perhaps there is a "fileadmin/" prefix or something like that
17:30 maholtz|WORK base url
17:31 untouch but theres no reason it shouldnt work cus theres no js allowed or anything right?
17:31 untouch i thought the autoparser ignores it
17:31 untouch ima find out if your right thx
17:49 tomyN Hi, how can I change the language from de to en, I see a bunch of lines in config.txt, but ...., thanks!
17:52 tomyN No5251: Hi,do you have a second for me?
17:53 _dougal_ just one second?
17:54 maholtz|WORK @tomyN: config.txt?
17:55 tomyN hi, yes, I see this, but do I have to change this in each line or does one for all do the trick?
17:56 untouch mahlotz
17:56 untouch i cannot find the error
17:56 untouch crayz one sec
17:56 untouch http://www.phlogi.net/t3/tspastebin/
17:56 untouch this is my template
17:57 untouch and
17:57 untouch the swf
17:57 maholtz|WORK @untouch: there must be an different in HTML / JS / CSS Source - though use diff fpr searching
17:57 tomyN two more questions: I have a search box and the button says "suchen" What will I need to change.
17:57 maholtz|WORK @untouch: you missed your personal link after pastebin i think
17:57 tomyN Finally, a Submenu, in the right column has a German header, cannot find that one either.
17:57 tomyN thanks a 1000!!
17:58 untouch fileadmin\template\main\swf
17:58 untouch heres my swf
17:58 maholtz|WORK well, should fileadmin/template/main/swf ?
17:58 untouch yea i mean
17:58 untouch i just copied it from my windows explorer
17:58 untouch into irc
17:59 untouch ops im sirry
17:59 maholtz|WORK np - but you have to check the differences between t3 output and your template
17:59 untouch http://paste.phlogi.net/-df5a3bd249/
17:59 untouch thats the point
17:59 untouch i did and i dont see any
18:00 untouch except the stuff t3 puts into the head
18:00 maholtz|WORK perhaps you have disabled flash in your browser or something like that?
18:01 untouch hehe thatll be cool but i see it on my plain htmlcss version
18:01 tomyN k, here is the site: http://www.dorsch-art.net/
18:01 untouch www.imressum.de
18:01 untouch www.impressum.de
18:02 untouch works fine
18:02 tomyN I am looking at the source code and found a submit value "suchen" I'd like to have this in english, cannot be that complicated, right?
18:03 maholtz|WORK @tomyN: should be easy - where do you inserted that search button?
18:05 tomyN I am working with a template from rasi: I can see the search button (position) in the html template
18:05 tomyN then there is a page "Search" which includes the plugin
18:06 tomyN and I have "suchen.txt"
18:06 tomyN maholtz|WORK: see www.dorsch-art.net source code, perhaps it helps you
18:15 maholtz|WORK @tomyN: wondering - i would suggest that english is default? you should have an look at macinasearchbox extension
18:15 maholtz|WORK translate it
18:16 maholtz|WORK do not know that extension, so you have to read manual and haven an look into the template
18:17 tomyN ok, thanks!
18:21 maholtz|WORK have to go now, bye
18:26 d|g hi all
18:42 davidbrunnthaler hiho, i'm currently building a new typo3 site but i have a little css problem
18:42 davidbrunnthaler http://www.dioezese-linz.at/pfarren/altenfelden/vers_3/
18:42 davidbrunnthaler why does the css file only get half interpreted?
18:48 nkuttler davidbrunnthaler: your encoding is wrong. what's --> doing in your css file?
18:49 davidbrunnthaler found the mistake - typo3 renamed my body and so only the general body tag was used
18:50 davidbrunnthaler nkuttler: you were right .. copy/paste error
18:54 ries http://www.geekologie.com/2007/10/junk_copter_is_scary_destined.php
19:09 Denyerec HardPhuck_ join the damn club :/
19:18 pmk65 hi
19:18 redvald Hi pmk
19:22 pmk65 redvald: Hejsa ;)
19:32 HardPhuck_ what kind of field do i have to create if it will link to an image
19:35 No5251 with TV "link field" ...
19:41 pmk65 HardPhuck_: or in TCA --> http://paste.phlogi.net/-efecbdd05e/
19:42 HardPhuck_ thanx
19:43 pmk65 the field is then a plain text field, but with a "globe" wizard icon to open the ling selection popup.
19:43 pmk65 you can do the same in TV, if you "translate" the TCA PHP array into XML.
19:43 HardPhuck_ i don't use TV
19:44 pmk65 TV rulez :)
19:45 HardPhuck_ never used it before lol
19:45 HardPhuck_ i can make everything with autoparser + templateselector
19:48 pmk65 true, but I like the way TV's BE looks, as you can make the BE look similar to the FE, when it comes to the layout (columns placement, colors etc.)
19:48 pmk65 but I think there's some ext that can do something similar for non-TV setups.
19:48 pmk65 Im just used to always installing TV on the sites I make.
19:50 pmk65 I always found the default TYPO3 BE layout confusing when the border column was active. due to it's placement to the right.
19:51 HardPhuck_ i'll try it sometime then
19:53 pmk65 it's a matter of taste. Some hate TV and never use it, but here in Denmark everybody uses TV so... :)
20:04 HardPhuck_ will try it some day i guess :)
20:04 HardPhuck_ most of my clients are really stupid and if TV is easier then TV it is :D
20:14 Denyerec I love TV
20:14 Denyerec And the fact you can customise the TV BE to look like the frontend if necessary == win
20:24 HardPhuck_ how much time do you need to master TV?
20:27 Denyerec about an afternoon.
20:27 Denyerec I should tele-conference you through a simple setup in no time.
20:27 Denyerec *could
20:27 Denyerec brb - feeding time
20:38 HardPhuck_ lol
21:23 nhaskins Does anyone know where to find documentation for the css_styled_content extension
21:23 nhaskins (typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/ has nothing)
21:26 pmk65 nhaskins: Check inside typo3/sysext/css_styled_content/doc/ you'll find it there.
21:26 pmk65 on your TYPO3 site.. :)
21:28 nhaskins Thank you. Google was giving me nothing
21:30 pmk65 in the Extension Manager, you can also click on the "Document" icon (if manual is present) to download the manual from your site.
22:44 ries this is the reason why .NET is bad???
22:44 ries http://www.auto.nl/brands/ModelTypes.aspx?id=19&linkId=128&modelId=118216
22:44 ries or did they just ban me :D
22:49 chefan no
22:49 chefan i get a stack trace too
22:50 chefan so it's either a .NET issue, or we get discriminated with stack traces
23:03 Denyerec they banned me too ;)

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