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00:00 HardPhuck_ its nothing like icelandic, but yes very difficult and similar to nothing at all
00:00 Denyerec I only mean that Icelandic is also supposed to be ridiculously difficult.
00:00 HardPhuck_ the hardest language i have ever heard
00:00 HardPhuck_ oh :)
00:00 Denyerec not that hungarian and icelandic are similar
00:01 Denyerec they are both from Outer Space
00:01 HardPhuck_ true
00:01 HardPhuck_ my GF's mother is hungarian
00:01 HardPhuck_ she curses in hungarian so noone knows what is she saying lol
00:10 tomyN hi, I cannot log on to the backend: Login-error or session timed-out
00:11 tomyN none my passwords work with no browser, what's going on here?
00:14 tomyN dan`afk: hi
00:14 dan`afk hio
00:16 tomyN I cannot log on to my backend, it gives me a time out error all in a sudden
00:16 tomyN just reset my browser and still ?
00:16 tomyN I have a little anxiety attack
00:17 tomyN no user logged on it says, well of course not if it won't let me
00:51 tomyN_ anyone here?
00:53 Denyerec sadly yes.
00:53 tomyN_ hey
00:53 tomyN_ so pissed
00:53 tomyN_ I get a Login error or session timed out
00:54 tomyN_ cannot log on at all to the backend and have no idea why
00:54 tomyN_ It worked this morning
00:57 tomyN_ fixed it, wuaaahh, I am becoming an expert
01:00 Denyerec what was it tomy?
01:15 HardPhuck going to bed
01:15 HardPhuck good night
02:19 twoten I am a human being!
02:21 twoten take that you robot tomato!
02:29 twoten there's no one here is there?
05:20 tokam read
07:38 nd_ just2b: Aloha. We just tweaked your smoothimage ext for a page the other day... what would be really appreciated IMHO is if you simplify it to use just one cssfile...
07:44 just2b nd_ is it so hard to modify 2 css files?
07:44 just2b one is lightbox, one is the gallery... 2 different things
08:09 nd_ just2b: No, it's not that hard, but it's yet two more http requests ;)
08:09 nd_ just2b: I just wanted to tell you our (means my collegue and mine) opinion... feel free to ignore it.
08:09 just2b it is one more request
08:09 just2b ;)
08:10 just2b and you can just set the path to empty and include the styles in your css file
08:10 just2b or put it in one file... it is just up to you
08:39 nkuttler meh, does one http request really matter when you're viewing an image gallery?
08:48 just2b nkuttler hehe epscielly if it so full and slow of js ;)
08:50 nkuttler just2b: in theory i'm all for optimizing. but customers always want the 150/260k header graphic instead of the optimized one :/
08:50 nkuttler "there's an artifact in the top right corner!"
08:51 nkuttler and once you're there...
08:59 just2b nkuttler yeah of course you are right.. and there is also this nice cssjsmerging ext which does all css in 1 file .. so no need to change the ext
09:06 nkuttler css and js get cached by the browser anyway..
09:10 just2b yes but most time the visitiros nees to load it once.. anyway more important are expire headers, gzip. but of course IMHO
09:14 maholtz|WORK moin moin
09:50 HP_sleep ah the new billings is out
09:54 HardPhuck hey m4rt
09:57 m4rtijn hi all
10:00 beli hi all
10:01 beli i am trying to load an external javascript....the javascript file is defined in the head section, i used this to do that:
10:01 beli page.headerData {
10:01 beli 10 = TEXT
10:01 beli 10.value = <script type="text/javascript" src="fileadmin/clocks/quadrat.js"></script> }
10:01 beli now i need an function quadrat() to be executed onload...so i tried do modify body tag
10:02 beli but in the source there's i cannot find the modified tag afterwards...
10:02 beli any ideas?
10:03 just2b why not just call the quadrat in the js
10:17 teppi|work window.onload = quadrat(); should be ok as well
10:35 beli teppi|work: where to put window.onload
10:38 teppi|work somewhere in the content you can output this: <script type="text/javascript">
10:38 teppi|work window.onload = ..... ;</script>
10:39 teppi|work beli, but please note that window.onload will unset any other eventhandler which was set before .. eg in body onload= ..
10:40 beli hmm ok, then i cannot use it...i use layers menu...
10:40 teppi|work :-/
10:40 beli the prob is that i want a clock to be displayed and refreshed every second....
10:40 beli so it really counts up
10:41 webworker does anybuddy know if the extjs table library is a problem in the matter of open source software which is used in companies?
10:41 beli webworker: is there no license related with it?
10:44 teppi|work beli maybe you have a look at the periodical executer from the prototype js framework .. http://roberthanson.blogspot.com/2005/11/prototypejs-periodicalexecuter.html
10:44 teppi|work we used that for a similliar task
10:45 pontecorvo Hello all. How can I specify parameters for flash applet inserted as Pagecontent->Multimedia. Can't find ant information :(
10:45 pontecorvo *any
10:46 beli teppi|work: i have a script but it doesnt really work.... --> http://rafb.net/p/x6fUGb15.html
10:46 beli teppi|work: but thanks i will check this out
10:48 m4rtijn beli - just make a marker in your template i.e. ###JAVA### then use marks.JAVA = TEXT marks.JAVA.value = window.onload = ..... ;</script>
10:49 beli m4rtijn: but i use layer menus....and they are managed by javascript...so the eventhandlers wont work as teppi|work told me
10:49 webworker beli: there is but it has some exceptions which don't work with open source addaption in business use, as I see it... But I saw that the library was used in some extensions.... so I'm interessted in how
10:50 beli webworker: oh hmm...think its best to mail the author then
10:50 teppi|work pontecorvo, afaik you can simply write them into the parameters field ..
10:50 webworker beli: I'll do that
10:51 teppi|work pontecorvo, in each line something like this: width=xxx
10:51 teppi|work and so on
10:51 teppi|work :-(
10:51 beli m4rtijn: but i just give it a try thanks :)
10:51 teppi|work wasted time
10:52 beli hmm
10:58 m4rtijn does anybody know the TSconfig for hiding the RIGHT, BORDER and LEFT thingies?
10:58 m4rtijn so the customer only sees NORMAL
10:58 beli mod.SHARED.colPos_list=0
10:59 beli normal, left, right, border.....0,1,2,3
10:59 m4rtijn thanks
11:01 m4rtijn can I set that for some usergroup?
11:01 m4rtijn I still want to see it as admin..
11:02 m4rtijn and.. does that work for sub-pages as well? Or so I have to enter that in every page?
11:02 m4rtijn ah, yes, works for subpages
11:02 beli add it to your root template
11:03 beli then it works for all pages
11:03 m4rtijn nice..
11:03 m4rtijn and can I limit it to one usergroup?
11:06 beli possible i guess, but i think you need to overwrite TCA then....using php.....no other idea
11:16 beli is it possible to define default owner/group for pages/content?
11:42 Denyerec Is anyone here really hot on the coding guidelines?
11:43 idevelop hi guys
11:43 idevelop in my storage folder i have a list, and when i edit it, i get a textbox and each line is a list element
11:43 idevelop but the rest of the list, <ul> and <li>s are generated by typo3
11:43 idevelop how can i set a special css class for each <li> ?
11:44 beli why not put the textbox into a <div></div>
11:45 beli like a class:
11:45 idevelop nono
11:45 beli <div id="textblock"><li>.....</div>
11:45 idevelop i was saying that, in the backend, the way you input the list is through a text box
11:45 beli so you can format the <li> tags for the texblock class
11:45 beli ah ok
11:45 idevelop and each line is a list element
11:46 idevelop i don't enter any <ul><li> code so i don't have control over the classes
11:47 nkuttler idevelop: do you load mootools anyway? probably much easier to do it in js?
11:49 idevelop nkuttler yeah, you're right, that's how i filled in a default value (from GET params) in a contact form
11:49 idevelop after an hour of trying through typoscript i said fuckit
11:50 nkuttler :D
11:51 beli :) i also have javascript probs...
11:52 m4rtijn idevelop - you could just use the css..
11:53 m4rtijn idevelop - if theres any parent html element which is different - use that
11:54 m4rtijn like .csc-text-with-image .content ul li ul li { mystuff }
11:55 idevelop m4rtijn yeah, that worked until now
11:55 idevelop but i need a "sortable" mootools effect
11:55 m4rtijn aah
11:55 idevelop and the way the sortable is implemented, no css for me :)
11:56 idevelop it creates a div directly in <body>, absolutely positioned
12:05 Denyerec anyone here really familiar with the extension coding guidelines?
12:06 Ruudi hello
12:06 beli hello Ruudi
12:06 Ruudi hi beli
12:08 Ruudi i have got a php function in ce_gallery script witch I want to control via typoscript, image size width and height but not sure how to write it down in TS
12:08 Ruudi http://paste.phlogi.net/-fd4ca105b0/ -- that's the function
12:14 m4rtijn hmm, is there a optionsplit for alternating?
12:15 m4rtijn odd, even or smth
12:16 m4rtijn ah, got it
12:16 yotse hello I getting an Catchable fatal error: Argument 2,when I´m using special symbol or letters with accent
12:17 yotse I´m using typo3 4.2.1
12:17 yotse does anyone had the same problem?
12:17 beli might be a bug...non escaped chars.......
12:18 yotse I tried to write the letters with html code like &oacute; and it is accepted but just for the first time
12:20 yotse when I´m trying to write more text it recognize the html caracter ¨ &oacute;¨ as not accepted,but there are already saved,so it does let me add more items
12:22 yotse the complete error message is this:
12:22 yotse Catchable fatal error: Argument 2 passed to t3lib_div::array_merge_recursive_overrule() must be an array, string given, called in /Users/<removed>/public_html/t3lib/class.t3lib_tcemain.php on line 1766 and defined in /Users/<removed>/public_html/t3lib/class.t3lib_div.php on line 1764
12:32 nkuttler beli: um, replace the mark with <div id="foo"></div> and inject?
12:41 beli nkuttler: how? i have now <div id="foo">###FOO###</div> and i use the FILE object to load the file.js now....the marker is gone, but no results
12:43 nkuttler beli: oh, i'd use some javascript framework (mootools!) to put content in there... what kind of results are you taking about
12:44 beli i want to do worldclocks....seconds counting up.....i dont know mootools and i am not deep into javascript :(
12:44 beli is there any documentation about howto use it with typo3?
12:45 beli i just have a ready script that worked on an old, non typo3 site
12:48 nkuttler beli: well, can you paste the script somewhere?
12:48 beli sure
12:48 beli http://rafb.net/p/x6fUGb15.html
12:50 beli and it has been called onload with datumdate();uhr1();uhr2();....;datumausgabe();
12:50 beli and just worked :)
12:51 nkuttler beli: 155 document.getElementById("dat").innerHTML=ausgabe;
12:52 nkuttler beli: search for similar lines and put divs with id="dat" etc in your template
12:53 beli nkuttler: thanks
12:55 beli i am helping in the unix/linux sector in common....just a typo3 new :)
12:56 nkuttler nah, just kidding. i like to help. but i like gifts too :)
12:56 beli who not? ;)
13:03 m4rtijn i hate gifts
13:03 m4rtijn but I hate everything anyway.. so thats normal
13:03 m4rtijn ;)
13:08 SimonSimCity Do anyone know a function in the Typo3-API where I can check if a site is translated? --> Plugin ...
13:12 pipo hi people
13:13 pipo i wanted to make a question, but I want an answer only if anyone knows without lose time in me
13:13 pipo I'm want to find where the srfeuser_register does the insert
13:13 pipo I've serached in all the module with grep
13:13 pipo and theres only 3 inserts
13:14 pipo but none of them is in the table fe_users
13:14 pipo i'm new in typo3 and maybe there's another way to insert records... don't know
13:22 guid1 hi, i have some trouble installing mm_forumin typo3 4.2: i need a loginbox, ext "newloginbox" is obsolete, but integrated loginbox doesn't log me in.. any hints or tips? thy a lot!!!
13:23 m4rtijn could you explain what u mean by "does not log me in"
13:24 guid1 i have set the page to use the sysfolder of mm_forum, where one user is created - when i try to login with this users data, all i get is the loginbox again - also mm_forum doesn't regard me as logged in
13:25 guid1 so it seems to NOT change my status to "logged in"
13:27 guid1 i worked with newloginbox under typo3 4.1.x without any problems - but couldn't solve it with the integrated loginbox of typo3 4.2
13:28 guid1 do i need any typoscript for setting up the integrated loginbox of typo3 4.2 maybe??
13:33 Jan__ Anyone know why Typo can't find IM (Win2008+IIS7) but a manual php-test can find IM and works great? / And how to solve this Problem?
13:33 guid1 can the "page type" for a page with a loginbox be standard or is it backend-user-area?
13:33 SimonSimCity Is in the Typo3-API a function wich can tell me if a site is translated ?
13:34 SimonSimCity --> I need it because the weeaar_googlesitemap shows all pages in all languages...
13:34 m4rtijn guid1 its standard
13:34 guid1 thx
13:34 SimonSimCity as well Sites which are not translated in the current language ...
13:35 guid1 <SimonSimCity>: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/gl_transstat/current/
13:36 beli nkuttler: i defined the div classes as you said in my template....and i have load the script in <script>...</script> tags...i call the functions directly at the end of the script-file ...
13:36 beli datumdate(); uhr1(); uhr2(); uhr3(); uhr4(); datumausgabe();
13:36 beli but theres not output :(
13:38 m4rtijn guid1 - u need to give the loginbox the sysfolder where u store the users
13:38 pipo pipo
13:38 m4rtijn I thought..
13:38 m4rtijn pipo!!
13:46 guid1 m4rtijn: i have a sysfolder for all mm_forum users - and this is the folder which the loginbox uses in the page properties. still no login-procedure
13:49 m4rtijn guid1 im testing it also atm. its very weird shit
13:50 m4rtijn haha, I got it
13:50 guid1 ???
13:51 m4rtijn heheh
13:51 m4rtijn guess
13:51 m4rtijn :)
13:51 m4rtijn no, just joking..
13:51 guid1 i did for hours ... ^^
13:51 m4rtijn soooo.. how much do u wna pay for THE answer
13:51 m4rtijn hehe
13:52 guid1 say something :)
13:52 m4rtijn guid1 - u have to set the - PID of user archive
13:52 guid1 but WHERE ???
13:52 m4rtijn template - root document - constant editor - content - bottom left
13:52 m4rtijn or TS - styles.content.loginform.pid
13:53 guid1 omg
13:53 guid1 is this documented anywhere???
13:53 guid1 YES
13:53 guid1 m4rtijn got my vote
13:53 m4rtijn i dunno
13:53 m4rtijn docs on 4.2 are rare I think
13:54 m4rtijn but.. we're (DOCTeam - typo3) are working on it :)
13:54 guid1 yes ... got some great books, but none for 4.2
13:55 m4rtijn you can also edit the text the loginbox is displaying..
13:55 m4rtijn which is also hidden
13:56 guid1 hey m4rtijn, thank you a thousand times!
13:56 m4rtijn yw dude
13:56 guid1 i found this nowhere
13:56 nkuttler beli: :/ try firebug
13:57 m4rtijn sometimes typo3 is a bit complicated ... you need some brainquirck to find stuff ;)
14:05 idevelop guys, tt_news has pagination, right?
14:05 idevelop :|
14:05 idevelop ...right?
14:08 m4rtijn what do you mean?
14:08 m4rtijn it divides the news over several pages
14:08 nkuttler idevelop: for a single news item?
14:08 m4rtijn if its > x
14:08 m4rtijn x = number of news records
14:08 m4rtijn limit bla
14:20 SimonSimCity Do anyone know a function in the Typo3-API where I can check if a site is translated?
14:59 m4rtijn SimonSimCity - i dont think that available
14:59 m4rtijn SimonSimCity - if u want to do it you could do some mysql query..
15:00 SimonSimCity what mysql-querys do you think of ?
15:00 SimonSimCity I have the id of my page and the lang-id I'll check ...
15:00 SimonSimCity could you give me a example of a query ?
15:13 m4rtijn SimonSimCity - atm. I cant - but check the difference in the DB between a page without and a page with translation..
15:13 m4rtijn there must be some field which has some relation to the translation
15:14 SimonSimCity ok ... I'll try it and give you an response ...
15:14 m4rtijn or u have to get the uid of all translations and do a logical compare with all uid's
15:19 swemark can somehow change the way the title is rendered?
15:20 lipmoe hi
15:21 lipmoe is it somehow possible to get the specific site title of a page in small letters?
15:21 lipmoe http://pastie.org/283553
15:22 nkuttler hrm, can i make a workspace preview link that doesn't start at / ?
15:24 nkuttler lipmoe: try something like stdWrap.case = lower
15:24 lipmoe ok thx
15:27 m4rtijn swemark - yes
15:27 lipmoe nkuttler: thx it works
15:28 swemark m4rtijn, any tips? except for nopagetitle?
15:29 m4rtijn mf_pagetitle
15:29 m4rtijn extension
15:34 swemark m4rtijn, can i somehow get typoscript to extract the data SYS->[sitename] from localconf.php?
15:36 m4rtijn I bet u can :)
15:36 m4rtijn did u check the object browser?
15:42 teppi|work i have a problem with realurl, if i configure the L param as prevar a slash too much is added too the URL .. it looks like this: http://berliner-philharmoniker.t3dev.form4.de/en//home/
15:42 teppi|work this is my config: http://nopaste.php-quake.net/53126
15:43 teppi|work somebody an idea? :-)
15:44 m4rtijn I have an idea
15:45 m4rtijn sprayonaise
15:46 yotse Is posible to use realurl when the website has a permanent redirection 301?
15:49 teppi|work m4rtijn, o[oO]o
15:50 m4rtijn is that Wall-E ?
15:51 teppi|work yep!
15:51 anton hi, in TS for a file object, can i ask if it ist NULL ?
15:55 swemark m4rtijn, i cant find anything consernind TSFE in the object browser
15:56 m4rtijn anton - maybe via if.isTrue or if.isFalse
15:56 anton hmm
15:57 m4rtijn swemark - page.sitetitle?
16:04 Denyerec :/
16:07 yotse Hello I´m trying hard during 3 days to install realurl in a website which has redirection 301,Should I give up or is posssible?Thanks :)
16:08 anton m4rtijn: is ther a way to hold TSFE:lastImage|0 in a variable like TEST = TSFE:... ?
16:11 martijn grmbl
16:12 m4rtijn now to my most important issue of today...
16:12 m4rtijn pfew..
16:13 fred^^ NO.wrapItemAndSub = <li class="first">|</li>||*||*|<li class="last">|</li>| <- where can I look up the syntax for TS?
16:13 Denyerec dyin here :/
16:13 Denyerec notb been this ill in a long itme
16:13 fred^^ Im wondering where to put my class definition for first, last and the rest of the items
16:14 fred^^ start doing yoga, Denyerec
16:14 Denyerec that'd be an option if I could stand
16:14 fred^^ ouch :D
16:14 Denyerec (And afford the classes...)
16:14 fred^^ i started a course and have been 3 times so far
16:14 fred^^ its really, really great
16:15 Denyerec what style?
16:15 fred^^ and suprisingly so - i was a big sceptic
16:15 fred^^ im not sure what style it is
16:15 Denyerec My GF does Bikram, but it's way too expensive for me.
16:15 fred^^ whats the cost?
16:15 fred^^ im paying 1500 NOK, which is 253$
16:15 fred^^ that includes a mat
16:15 Denyerec maybe $18 per session
16:16 fred^^ 11 sessions i think
16:17 m4rtijn hehe .. yoga
16:27 m4rtijn faen
16:31 Denyerec ?
16:32 m4rtijn faen is norwegian for - fun
16:41 nd_ Anyone getting trim() expects parameter 1 to be string, array given in... with php5.3alpha too?
16:55 Parks Hello All,
16:55 m4rtijn hi
16:56 Parks Looking for some help in understanding how well Typo3 is designed to work in a 2 tiered environment with load balanced web servers
16:56 Parks ...anyone able to halp please?
16:56 Parks *help
16:57 nkuttler crap, my ip got banned from slashdot. sigh. second biggest german provider :/
16:57 nkuttler what am i going to do now :)
16:58 m4rtijn find porn somehwere else?
16:58 nkuttler i'm already bored
16:59 nkuttler Parks: hm, what problems do you expect? the only one i can think of is that you can't distribute session data across servers... no idea if typo3 does that
17:00 nkuttler Parks: i'd check typo3.com. they are improving caching for 4.3 as well afaik
17:01 Parks session data is not a problem as I will use cookie injection at the load balancing level
17:01 nkuttler well, i certainly don't know enough about such things... looked if typo3.com has some info about that?
17:03 Parks nps, TYPO3 site isnt that useful on this
17:04 Parks thanks and bye
17:04 nkuttler ah, think-open.at again :)
17:07 nkuttler btw, what's the best documentation for typo3 editors?
17:08 m4rtijn the help docs in the backend
17:08 nkuttler hrm
17:08 nkuttler there are help docs :)
17:09 nkuttler oh, indeed "typo3 help"
17:10 nkuttler oooh, manual...
17:10 nkuttler anybody read TYPO3-Handbuch für Redakteure by O'Reilly?
17:12 m4rtijn hmm, I dont think u'll find editors in here
17:12 nkuttler yeah :/ but you have to teach your editors somehow
17:13 nkuttler or sell more consulting...
17:13 m4rtijn I've written my own doc..
17:13 m4rtijn and let my intern make a video - doc
17:13 nkuttler yeah, we did that for 4.1 too
17:14 nkuttler tiresome
17:14 m4rtijn yep - interns
17:14 m4rtijn the slaves of today
17:14 nkuttler ah, i don't have any yet..
17:14 m4rtijn get some.. they're fun to have
17:14 nkuttler hehe
17:14 nkuttler too bad i don't drink coffee
17:14 m4rtijn .. i didnt get them to do that though
17:14 m4rtijn .. i tried
17:15 nkuttler really?
17:15 nkuttler shocking..
17:15 m4rtijn .. yeah, sometimes they do have some self-respect
17:15 m4rtijn but they did the dishes
17:15 m4rtijn muhaha
17:15 m4rtijn I have a nice blond the next 4 weeks
17:15 m4rtijn hehe
17:15 nkuttler that never hurts
17:16 m4rtijn she just finished a 7 page editor doc
17:16 m4rtijn i have to go over and pet her a bit
17:18 nkuttler i should go to a libarary and check out the books
17:18 daKmoR whats the best extension to handle e-mail subscriptions for direct mail?
17:18 daKmoR it should allow direct unsubscribe with one link within the sent e-mail....
17:23 nkuttler hm, the backend handbook looks good, but the css is terrible
17:31 Denyerec Anyone want to buy me these? http://www.warehouseexpress.com/search/?q=150%202.8&cat03=3078
17:31 Denyerec Go on.
17:31 Denyerec You know you want to.
17:32 flipmoe hi
17:32 m4rtijn hehe Denyerec
17:32 flipmoe how is it possible to use the page title in the rootline as the source for an image element?
17:32 flipmoe http://pastie.org/283653
17:32 Denyerec Cmon m4rtijn ;)
17:32 Denyerec You could get just one of them...
17:33 Denyerec ...and I'm sure someone else would donate the other
17:33 Denyerec :)
17:33 nkuttler hm, do they fit on my powershot a 60?
17:34 m4rtijn flipmoe - field : title I think
17:34 Denyerec Will it influence your decision if I say yes, nkuttler ? :)
17:34 flipmoe ok i'll try it
17:34 flipmoe ah sorry
17:35 nkuttler Denyerec: :/
17:35 Denyerec photography is too damn expensive.
17:36 Denyerec either that or I'm too damn poor.
17:36 Denyerec could be a combination of the two ;)
18:00 m4rtijn have a nice weekend all
18:01 m4rtijn .. (tomorow is holliday in germany)
18:01 m4rtijn yay
18:06 NublaII I just updated my install to 4.2.1 and I'm getting a weird error with quixplorer
18:07 NublaII something about not being able to modify the headers
18:08 NublaII http://phpfi.com/359653
18:13 NublaII weird... there's a rogue 'a name' before the html declaration...
18:13 NublaII http://phpfi.com/359654
18:25 nkuttler oh, no, i forgot to do my shopping
21:29 MyGoddess hello

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