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00:57 Maluka G'day all...does someone have any good experience with the extension mnogosearch as a replacement for indexed_search?
04:36 jsfan hi everyone
06:15 Guest89576 how can i make download page like extension download on typo3.org?
06:16 Guest89576 what extention do they use?
06:17 just2b this ext is also in ter, but use e.g. ab_downloads
06:19 Guest89576 sorry, what does ter mean?
06:25 jsfan TER = TYPO3 Extension Repository
06:27 Guest89576 ok thanks :) , so i can use ab_downloads to make a page like Extension Page on typo3.org
06:27 Guest89576 is it posiple?
06:27 Guest89576 is it possible ?
06:32 just2b sure you can
07:51 NMB hi i m trying to look up for a extension using the extension manager in the admin panel of typo3 4.2.2
07:51 NMB but whenever i click on the look up button then nothing happens
07:51 NMB why is that?
07:51 NMB do i need to configure anything?
08:05 void NMB: maybe you need to change the EM settings from "reviewed" to "all". or maybe you have outgoing connections disabled
08:05 NMB i have WAMP installed
08:05 NMB do i need to add any module or what??
08:06 void no, don't think so
08:06 void NMB: change the EM settings and try again
08:06 NMB where do i need to change in EM?
08:06 NMB in which file?
08:07 void not file..
08:07 void tools > E.M., and select settings in top selectorbox
08:08 jsfan NMB, do you get a message that no extensions were found?
08:08 NMB no, no message is shown
08:08 NMB just blank
08:08 jsfan the whole browser window goes blank?
08:09 nd_ The source says the id correctly. And it only happens with forms. Using normal links like with pi_linkTP it works fine... Ideas/suggestions?
08:09 jsfan NMB?
08:09 NMB yah as if nothing happens
08:10 jsfan nmb, if the whole browser window goes blank, obviously something has happened.
08:10 NMB when i click retrieve/update also nothing happens
08:10 jsfan NMB, nothing would mean you still see exactly the same.
08:12 NMB im using the lookup button to search for an extension say 'date2cal'
08:12 NMB but the search keeps on going it takes too much time
08:12 NMB and then after that page goes blank
08:12 NMB yes ur right, the page goes blank
08:13 NMB whats causing this?
08:13 nd_ My forms using pi_getPageLink() all print out index.php?id=4 fine, but submitting it, they jump to the first page in my pagetree... Anyone with a clue here?
08:14 NMB jsfan: whats causing this to go blank?
08:14 jsfan NMB, most likely you get a php error which is not displayed due to your php configuration.
08:15 jsfan nd_, maybe your html is wrong? ;)
08:15 nd_ jsfan: I'd say it's not, but let me show you
08:15 nd_ jsfan: <form action="index.php?id=4" method="GET" accept-charset="utf-8" id="addbook">
08:16 NMB i have this display_errors = On in my php.ini
08:16 NMB they are on
08:17 jsfan NMB, what about error_reporting?
08:17 jsfan nd_, looks ok. what's the url you get displayed on submit?
08:17 NMB error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE & ~E_STRICT
08:18 jsfan NMB, looks ok. what about your apache error logs?
08:19 nd_ jsfan: index.php instead of index.php?id=4
08:19 nd_ jsfan: I never noticed on my dev system, as there's only one page atm containing the plugin. But in reallife it screws up ;)
08:19 NMB what kind of error should i see for in apache logs
08:19 NMB [Tue Oct 21 10:13:18 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] client denied by server configuration: C:/Program Files/Apache Software Foundation, referer:
08:20 NMB thats the lastest log entry
08:20 NMB is that has to do something with it?
08:20 jsfan NMB, did you access the BE from the same machine?
08:20 NMB yes
08:21 NMB i mean from localhost
08:21 jsfan nd_, does the form data show up in the url?
08:21 jsfan NMB, then this might be where it all comes from. your apache config forbids seomthing you're trying to do.
08:22 jsfan NMB, this entry is from the access log, right? check the error log.
08:22 NMB no this is from error log
08:23 nd_ jsfan: Yes, shows up fine
08:23 jsfan nd_, do you maybe have an id field in your form?
08:24 nd_ jsfan: No field named id... but I'm having id="" for css
08:24 NMB 127.0.0.1 - - [21/Oct/2008:12:26:10 +0500] "GET /T3site/typo3/mod/tools/em/index.php?ter_connect=1&ter_search=date2cal HTTP/1.1" 200 -
08:24 NMB the above line is from access.log
08:24 jsfan NMB, ok, they don't correspond then. totally different times.
08:25 NMB jsfan: do i need to enter any username and password in the EM settings panel ?
08:25 jsfan NMB, i can't imagine that you get an empty reply without anything showing up in the logs, however. sure you got the right logs?
08:25 jsfan NMB, no, hat's only for uploads.
08:25 jsfan that's
08:25 NMB i have shown u all the latest log entries
08:26 NMB :(
08:26 NMB is the script timeout?
08:31 nd_ jsfan: Any more ideas? <hoping>
08:32 jsfan NMB, time out would also give you an error message
08:32 NMB http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=4557
08:32 NMB check this out as it is referring to same which i experince now
08:32 jsfan nd_, you could try writing the id into a field and posting to index.php just to see what happens...
08:32 NMB but that was in version 4.0.
08:32 NMB i m using 4.2.2
08:33 NMB i think that should be fixed by now
08:33 jsfan NMB, yeah the bug is closed
08:34 NMB should i increase php memory limit?
08:34 NMB currently its memory_limit = 128M
08:35 nd_ jsfan: the id=""? Why that? I can also leave it out...
08:36 jsfan nd_, no the id=4 you could set through a form field for testing
08:37 nd_ jsfan: But that would be weird, wouldn't it? Every tutorial on the net uses pi_getPageLink...
08:37 jsfan nd_, sure, only for testing.
08:40 nd_ Another weird thing is that having name="tx_myext[mykey]" is not valid xhtml... grmpf
08:41 nd_ No, using a hidden id field also brings me to page1 of the tree
08:45 nd_ Gna, I don't see it...
08:49 jsfan nd_, so the hidden field never shows up in your url?
08:57 nd_ jsfan: No it shows up
08:57 nd_ jsfan: But this can't be the elegant way... can it?
09:02 jsfan nd_, no, but you know now that the id does not get blocked out. but you say it gets ignored?
09:02 nd_ jsfan: Nah, due do the setup I can't test that right now
09:03 jsfan nd_, no more ideas without seeing it, i reckon :(
09:05 nd_ jsfan: No, it works fine. But I don't want to have a hidden field for that
09:05 nd_ jsfan: What do you have to see? I can paste it somewhere
09:05 nd_ jsfan: Are you here any longer? Because I have to drive to university in five minutes and then it might take another half an hour before I can log back in...
09:17 Guest89576 how can i make download page like extension download on typo3.org?
09:17 Guest89576 what extention do they use?
09:32 Guest89576 how can i make download page like extension download on typo3.org?
09:46 nkuttler hm, clicking the "Edit in Richt Text Editor" button opens the html editor, clicking the yellow pencil opens the RTE in 4.2.2 for me. go figure..
09:48 nkuttler ah, another known bug apparently
09:55 nd_ You're finding them by the hour nowadays, eh?
10:12 nkuttler user training going on atm..
10:13 HardPhuck good morning
10:13 nkuttler moin
10:16 SweHaagen Good Morning
10:20 SweHaagen I need a tip for a plugin.
10:21 SweHaagen I have a few fe users that should be able to change a specific content (food menu) once a week
10:25 m4rtijn moin
10:25 Guest89576 HI, Can I export all the registration user ? Please help me
10:26 m4rtijn export where?
10:26 Guest89576 I have try export to csv, but it just export username
10:26 Guest89576 export to excel file
10:26 Guest89576 or another format is also ok
10:27 HardPhuck guest have you checked in extension repository?
10:28 Guest89576 no
10:28 Guest89576 are there extension to do that?
10:28 SweHaagen Guest: Check this out s12_exportuser
10:29 SweHaagen I haven't tried it
10:30 HardPhuck guest always check the repository if you need some functionality
10:31 HardPhuck there is a great probability that someone wrote something similar to what you need
10:31 Guest89576 ok, i will try it
10:31 Guest89576 thank you so much
10:31 HardPhuck np
10:32 Guest89576 ah, can i import user from toolpark cms?
10:32 HardPhuck depends, how users are exported from there
10:33 HardPhuck if they are in CSV then it can be done
10:33 Guest89576 it can export to xml file
10:34 Guest89576 and how can i import?
10:35 SweHaagen JitterBit
10:36 m4rtijn .. just export from the DB
10:36 m4rtijn with phpmyadmin
10:51 rca hi
10:52 rca is there a way to allow users to link to pages in a part of the tree that's not in their db mount?
10:54 nkuttler rca: i doubt that. maybe if you have the page's id
10:55 nkuttler rca: why not give them ro access? that should make it possible
10:55 rca nkuttler: ah, thanks :) we have a problematic tree with several hundred pages but editors should only edit their own branches each
10:55 rca well, with ro access they see a massive tree and are confused
10:56 nkuttler i see :)
10:56 rca if the tree would only appear in the link popup window, it would work :)
10:56 nkuttler well, they don't have to open the mount in the tree view..
10:57 rca do you mean they don't have to expand/collapse that part of the tree? or that they wouldn't see it there at all?
10:57 nkuttler expand/collapse
10:57 rca ah, right :)
10:57 rca well, they'd all go mad
10:57 rca i think it's about 60 toplevel elements
11:09 nd_ Any more ideas about why forms using pi_getPageLink carry the correct link (index.php?id=4) but submitting them forwards be to my index.php losing the id=4 in between
11:57 Guest89576 can the modern download extension work with FE registration extension?
11:58 Guest89576 I want the user must register to download, can i do it?
11:58 Guest89576 please help me
11:59 m4rtijn Guest89576 - just hide the content element for non-users
11:59 Guest89576 but the user can view the details
11:59 m4rtijn then hide the paege
11:59 m4rtijn page
12:00 Guest89576 just have to login when click to download ?
12:00 m4rtijn set th usergroup in the content element ACCESS tab
12:00 m4rtijn or in the page ACCESS tab
12:01 Guest89576 you mean that the access property of content element?
12:01 Guest89576 i have try that , but it will not display the download item
12:02 Guest89576 i want to let the user see it and just have to register when they download
12:02 Guest89576 do you understand what I mean?
12:05 Guest89576 have you try modern download extension?
12:05 Guest89576 m4rtijn
12:06 m4rtijn Guest89576 - then u'd have to use .htaccess I think
12:07 untouch has anyone used gif build headlines with rgaccordion yet
12:11 untouch http://typo3.liquidc.net/Impressum/index.php?id=16
12:11 untouch i want to have rgaccorion have an own headline in its accordion
12:12 untouch not the gif buildet one from my main content
12:12 untouch anyone know that could be done
12:13 untouch http://paste.phlogi.net/-ba942f99b4/
12:13 untouch this is my ts
12:20 nkuttler untouch: btw, what ext do you use now? looks nice
12:22 untouch i use tt_news,rgaccordion and rlmpflashdetection
12:22 untouch thx
12:22 untouch looking for a gallery wich fits my purpose also
12:22 m4rtijn hmm, mootools
12:23 untouch yes
12:23 untouch mootools also
12:23 m4rtijn looks ok though. I thought mootools had more code
12:24 untouch its pretty easy to set up just dont know how to change some things yet
12:25 nkuttler mootools is pretty lightweight and fully customizable to your needs
12:26 m4rtijn i like jquery
12:26 m4rtijn never used mootools
12:27 nkuttler i tried both and liked the mootools docs better
12:28 untouch denkansatz please :D
12:28 m4rtijn ?
12:30 dokma I'm here!
12:30 untouch i want to have rgaccorion have an own headline in its accordion
12:31 untouch denkanstz nkuttler ;D
12:32 untouch hmmmmm
12:32 untouch ich komm mir grad wieder ziemlich bloed vor
12:32 untouch :)
12:32 untouch op
12:32 untouch ops
12:35 m4rtijn untouch.. first u need to make the headline as usual.. then give it a unique ID.. then u can play around with it with mootools
12:39 m4rtijn does anybody know how to get the apparently integrated newloginbox in 4.2.1 by typoscript..
12:40 m4rtijn I found out once.. but I forgot how and what it was called
12:42 nkuttler m4rtijn: doesn't it have docs? i think it works the same as the old newloginbox ext
12:43 m4rtijn nah, its not a plugin anymore..
12:43 m4rtijn so.. docs.. i dunno
12:46 nkuttler m4rtijn: it's a core ext afait, show shy extensions etc in the ext manager
12:46 m4rtijn nope
12:47 m4rtijn I tried
12:47 nkuttler hm, there's only felogin, that's the old, isn't it?
12:48 m4rtijn i dont have that either.. in extensions?
12:48 nkuttler yeah, it's a shy one
12:48 m4rtijn not by default..
12:48 nkuttler no, not enabled by default
12:48 nkuttler but it's there. in 4.2
12:48 m4rtijn not installed by default either..
12:49 m4rtijn I dont have it
12:49 nkuttler typo3_src-4.2.2/typo3/sysext/felogin/ for me
12:50 m4rtijn i dont have 4.2.2
12:50 nkuttler should be in 4.2.0
12:50 nkuttler is in 4.2.1
12:50 m4rtijn hm, yes its there..
12:51 m4rtijn though that doesnt tell me how to get it via typoscript..
12:51 nkuttler m4rtijn: there's docs in the ext manager
12:51 m4rtijn ah, ok
12:51 m4rtijn hm, I dont c it in the ext. manager
12:51 m4rtijn :)
12:52 nkuttler it's _shy_...
12:52 nkuttler typo3_src-4.2.1/typo3/sysext/felogin/doc/manual.sxw
12:53 m4rtijn i know its shy.. wait. I'll send u a screenie..
12:54 m4rtijn arr..
12:54 m4rtijn not installed.. i missed that
12:54 m4rtijn i was in "loaded"
12:59 scatter hi there... is there any possibility in typo3 to clean up unused files? meaning all files in uploads/* and fileadmin/* which are referenced or used NOWHERE in the whole installation
13:00 scatter say a function which lets one get an overview about orphaned files and lets one delete them if one wants
13:01 scatter i already searched the extensions but didn't find something that does this job... i also found the tx_lowlevel_cleaner class but i don't know what to do with that ^^
13:07 lilalinux How do I disable the xml prolog in typo3: "<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>"? I need page.config.doctype = xhtml_strict, BUT without the xml prolog
13:07 lilalinux otherwise IE6 uses the wrong box-model
13:08 scatter i guess VALID xhtml_strict needs this prolog as valid xml needs this to be there...
13:09 scatter but i know what pain it is to work around IEs flaws ;)
13:09 lilalinux scatter: no, not if you use utf8 or utf16
13:09 lilalinux but I just found the solution
13:09 scatter really? but how does the renderer know which xml version is used?
13:10 lilalinux scatter: utf8 and utf16 are defaults
13:10 scatter yeah, i know
13:10 scatter but
13:10 scatter it's not only about the charset but also about the xml version
13:11 scatter <?xml version="1.0" ...
13:11 lilalinux btw: page.config.xmlprologue = none
13:11 nd_ Any more ideas about why forms using pi_getPageLink carry the correct link (index.php?id=4) but submitting them forwards be to my index.php losing the id=4 in between
13:12 lilalinux scatter: I don't know, maybe there are defaults/fallbacks
13:16 nd_ lilalinux: You can also make a condition for iex where the xml prologue is printed after the doctype, which then works
13:18 lilalinux nd_: the doctypeswitch, good to know
13:18 lilalinux does that still validate?
13:18 nd_ [browser = msie]
13:18 nd_ page.config.doctypeSwitch = 1
13:19 nd_ [global]
13:19 nd_ Well, I assume it validates for serious browsers which care about standards, and it kind of works in iex...
13:19 lilalinux I prefer leaving it away. I don't like conditional code
13:21 nd_ ok...
13:21 isolysis anyone know where i can change the target attribute of links for the news extension? currently, the external link news items are opening in a new window but would like to keep them in same window
13:23 nd_ PAGE_TARGET = in constants
13:27 nd_ though not very elegant...
13:31 isolysis nd_: wouldn't that affect all links? i was hoping i could modify the target on the news item only
13:32 nd_ I don't have a solution then... affects all links.
13:32 nd_ As I don't want to have _blank anywhere on my site it's fine for me...
13:36 isolysis nd_: i see, thanks anyhow
13:37 maeck Hi
13:38 maeck i want to install an extension from the online repository in my 4.1.7 website
13:38 nd_ Any more ideas about why forms using pi_getPageLink carry the correct link (index.php?id=4) but submitting them forwards be to my index.php losing the id=4 in between..?
13:38 maeck but every search ends with: No matching extensions found.
13:38 maeck why?
13:41 ndee once again, the lovely workspaces: If you implement a workflow with tt_news, do you guys only preview the tt_news in the backend and not in the frontend?
13:41 NublaII the typo3 BE login page has a bunch of empty lines before the html declaration... where can that come from? firefox is fine but IE is complaining about it
13:42 NublaII change that 'the typo3 BE login page' to 'MY typo3 BE login page' ;)
13:42 isolysis maeck: i think you need to select the checkbox like 'show unreview/unsecured extensions'
13:43 maeck hi isolysis :)
13:43 isolysis hi :)
13:45 maeck hmm, there's no checkbox like this. in the extension manager i selected "import extensions" from the dropdown and in the field "List or look up extensions" i wrote i.e. shop, click on "Look up" ... and "No matching extensions found."
13:47 nd_ maeck: Get the extension list first...
13:47 maeck i get it
13:48 maeck "The extension list has not changed remotely, it has thus not been fetched."
13:48 nd_ hmm, so you have a list. So searching should work ;)
13:48 maeck but it doesn't
13:48 nd_ Also check `show ext without security review` unter settings in ext-mgm...
13:51 isolysis ^
13:51 isolysis under drop down select box there is option 'settings' then check this option: Enable extensions without review (basic security check):
13:52 maeck thanks
13:52 maeck i checked it
13:52 maeck search for calendar
13:52 maeck No matching extensions found.
13:53 maeck the same problem ... i used TER Update Check, but no extensions found to be updated, even though there are extensions that should be updated
13:54 maeck strange
13:55 maeck or should i try the "Light Extension Manager" maybe its better?
13:56 nd_ It works here. Did you configure curl? Did you insert a proxy if one is needed..?
13:57 maeck no proxy is needed
13:57 maeck sorry, whats curl?
13:57 nd_ not needed then, I guess
14:01 chefan curl is a library for http, https and ftp acces
14:04 chefan well, actually that's understatement. curl can do some more stuff
14:04 maeck ok thanks chefan
14:06 nd_ But unless you're stuck in a weird network setup it's not needed for him to check out extensions, is it?
14:08 ndee is it somehow possible to view hidden tt_news records?
14:08 chefan usually not.
14:08 maeck hmm, i don't know ... normally my linux server works fine
14:09 maeck i have direct access to the internet
14:09 chefan curls is sort of a swiss army knife for file transfers. i didn't get the context why it should be needed. or not needed for that matter :)
14:10 chefan trouble with checking out extensions from the repository?
14:11 nd_ chefan: yes
14:12 chefan you can't transfer them or you don't find them in the first place?
14:13 nd_ chefan: He does not find them (why exactly am I answering? Anyhow...)
14:15 chefan lol
14:15 chefan that might be due to typo3 settings (if for instance you consider unstable extensions)
14:16 chefan anyway, it's not worth bothering too much, it's too easy to just download and drop them manually where they belong and then import them from the local filesystem
14:17 maeck yes i do this for now. but i want to use the extenstion updater. but he don't works, too
14:21 maeck sorry, i'm absolutely new in typo3 and i'm not a native english speaker ... so some things are a bit handful
14:21 nd_ handful? ;)
14:21 maeck sorry, i mean difficult
14:42 rca i think i might have found a solution to show pages in the "insert link" dialog of the RTE even if they aren't part of a user's db mount
14:42 rca options.pageTree.altElementBrowserMountPoints <- this option seems to do the trick
14:43 rca just don't know where in the mess of configuration i'm supposed to use it :)
14:50 pmk65 rca: options. settings is for User TSConfig, so you should edit the BE user(s), and add the config option to the TSConfig field of the user record.
14:51 rca oh, good to know! wanted to find out where the options. part is for
14:51 rca thanks, i'll try that
14:53 rca ah, doesn't seem to change anything
14:53 rca with the options. or just pageTree.altElementBrowserMountPoints = 1 ?
14:58 pmk65 rca: I think its a fairly new setting, so it might not be in the TYPO3 version you are using (Unless its the newest one?)
15:06 rca i thought it was added in 4.2
15:10 rca pmk65: i thought it was added in 4.2. we have 4.2.1
15:18 rca at least Jeff Segars says it's been added in 4.2: http://jeffsegars.com/2008/08/03/easier-page-links-for-editors/
15:25 pmk65 rca: is the value "1" the id of the page you want as alternate mountpoint?
15:26 pmk65 An updated version of TSConfig with the altElementBrowserMountPoints describe, can be downloaded here -> http://forge.typo3.org/repositories/entry/typo3v4-core/Documentation/trunk/doc_core_tsconfig/doc_core_tsconfig.sxw?rev=4095
15:26 rca pmk65: yes, 1 is the id of the root. all users should have access to the whole tree in the "insert link" page tree, but not in their visible db mount
15:28 rca pmk65: oh, thanks for the docs. it says there that they _replace_ existing db mounts
15:28 rca that won't work for us then
15:28 pmk65 it wouldn't suprise me if it didn't work. ( A lot of the new 4.2 features doesn't work or gives weird results)
15:28 rca oh, good to know
15:29 pmk65 4.2.2 is the worst one. So don't update your 4.2.1 yet..
15:30 rca even better to know :)
15:33 rca oh, duh. the option _would_ make sense for us because we want to give everyone the whole tree to link to anyhow
15:34 rca i just confused myself for a second there :)
15:34 rca the tree only becomes visible in the RTE while editing links, not everywhere. so it's useful
15:47 Wol hi everyone, someone know how to check is the page have subpages in typoscript?
15:50 nkuttler Wol: to do what?
15:51 pmk65 Wol: you can use the numRows function to test for subpages to a given page id.
15:53 Wol to change the css when is have no subpages
15:53 Wol to hide the menu
15:53 Wol pmk65: do you have doc?
15:53 pmk65 Wol: Can't you do that using NO anf IFSUB menu states?
15:53 nkuttler http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/10/2/
15:54 pmk65 Wol: http://snippets.typo3.org/snippets/c/51/
15:54 Wol i cannot use NO or IFSUB because the div size change
15:55 pmk65 http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=l2H&q=typo3+numrows+subpage&btnG=S%C3%B8g&meta=
15:55 Wol hummm... ok ...
15:56 Wol well... with conditions like that http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/4/1/ it is not possible??
15:57 pmk65 only if you make your own userfunc for the comparison, as theres no conditions for testing if a page got subs.
15:57 Wol ok... :(
15:57 Wol ok i will make something...
15:57 Wol hihi!
15:57 Wol thkx :D
15:58 nkuttler hm? IFSUB can do that
15:58 Wol no because i need to change the CSS
15:58 nkuttler yeah, IFSUB can do that
15:58 Wol hummm...
15:58 Wol ?
15:58 nkuttler wrap, stdWrap, whatever, aTagParams
15:59 pmk65 You might be able to use the condition "PIDupinRootline", but it would not be dynamic, so you would have to modify the ids whenever you create new pages.
15:59 Wol but i need to add a css file in the html header
15:59 Wol menu can't do it
16:00 nkuttler you could simply include one css and use different classes, but do whatever you like :)
16:00 Wol hehe
16:01 Wol i need to do this http://www.developpementdurable.ulaval.ca/plan_du_site/ like http://www.developpementdurable.ulaval.ca/a_propos/
16:01 Wol but i'm thinking about something...
16:01 Wol :P
16:02 Wol i will change the css...
16:02 ndee how can I submit a patch in the bugs.typo3.org tracker?
17:06 fred^^ hola
17:07 twoten yee ahh!
17:07 fred^^ i was trying to come up with a new response but im just too damn sleepy
17:08 fred^^ is there a error log for types like The page is not configured! [type= 0][]
17:08 twoten it's 11:21 am here in Toronto
17:08 fred^^ 5:21 pm here
17:08 fred^^ in norway, that is
17:09 twoten you got me, I'm just a newbie, wow Norway, that's so cool
17:09 fred^^ just slept really bad last night, and today has been a bad day in terms of doing any real work
17:09 fred^^ people have been bothering me on the phone alot about this and that
17:09 twoten makes me think of fresh faced blond babes cross country skiing with big smiles and knit sweaters
17:10 fred^^ hahahahaha :D
17:10 fred^^ well, thats norway
17:10 fred^^ i have a knit sweater on me right now
17:10 fred^^ still chilly
17:11 twoten getting cold here too, but I have the flu so my fevere keeps me warm
17:12 fred^^ comforting
17:12 twoten how long have you been a typo3 user?
17:13 fred^^ im undertaking measures to not have the flu this winter
17:13 fred^^ about 3 years now
17:14 twoten this is the first time in my life I got it, really hits hard, the agony of pain!
17:14 fred^^ and i only know so much. i've improved my knowledge alot the last year, but there are still many areas where i have alot to learn.
17:15 fred^^ no wonder though, typo3 is really big and complex - but that doesnt mean it can be relatively easy to manage, atleast in some aspects
17:15 twoten about a month for me, I have a long way to go, but I need the power to create web sites
17:15 fred^^ im testing out alternative CMSes for smaller sites where typo3 doesnt fit in, even though its our main CMS
17:15 fred^^ is it for work, or what?
17:16 twoten yeah for work, my own project, dogi.ca: the database of great ideas
17:19 fred^^ you should look into web standards, just so you get the right start
17:19 twoten you mean the w3c specs? how browsers are supposed to behave?
17:19 fred^^ kind of
17:19 fred^^ its a more broader term
17:20 fred^^ i just took a quick look at the source of your page, thats all
17:20 twoten ahh, I'm just using the smf forum right now, soon I'll launch with a typo3 site
17:21 fred^^ dont use tables where tables should not be applied, separate content and presentation etc
17:21 fred^^ aha, okay
17:21 fred^^ http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/01/12/free-css-layouts-and-templates/ here is one good reference to start from
17:21 twoten ooh thanks!
17:22 fred^^ in regards to kickstarting
17:22 twoten yes ? ...
17:22 fred^^ yes, kickstarting the coding and whatnot
17:23 twoten I'm working thru the TemplaVoila tutorial right now
17:27 fred^^ TV is really nice
17:27 fred^^ its not that long ago i was using automaketemplate
17:27 twoten that seems like a really great tool too but I decided to take the plunge and go straight for TV
17:27 fred^^ i started using and learning typo3 through my boss, and hes really not a developer, so he has alot of practices thats not really that good
17:28 fred^^ and good decision that was
17:28 twoten ahh, maybe he would like perl?
17:28 fred^^ haha :D
17:28 fred^^ no, not really
17:28 fred^^ he likes to sell stuff
17:28 fred^^ and run the business
17:28 fred^^ and drink beer
17:29 fred^^ he went home to have a couple beers, im still stuck in the office atm
17:29 twoten good for him, what kind of business are you in?
17:30 fred^^ the last three years we've been doing mainly grahpic design, web design and web developement, but we're in the middle of concentrating our focus
17:31 fred^^ so, in theory, from this point on we're only doing web developement, web-tv and web-radio
17:31 twoten do you run Linux? I'm on kubuntu here
17:31 untouch 2 man business?
17:31 fred^^ got a couple servers in the office on linux, but i use windows
17:31 fred^^ 3 man
17:31 fred^^ but daily we're just 2
17:31 untouch same here
17:31 fred^^ our third guy run our server park in oslo
17:32 fred^^ and does most of the coding
17:32 fred^^ im front-end, he's more backend
17:35 twoten is typo3 fast enough for a high volume site?
17:35 fred^^ yeah, i believe so
17:35 fred^^ there are some whitepapers and what not on it
17:36 twoten good, I was a bit worried
17:36 fred^^ roskilde08 website ran on typo3
17:36 fred^^ http://www.google.no/search?q=typo3%20high%20performance
17:49 fred^^ well, good evening
17:50 fred^^ good luck, and see you some other time, twoten
17:50 fred^^ did i time out, twoten?
17:50 fred^^ [17:49] <fred^^> roskilde08 website ran on typo3
17:50 fred^^ [17:49] <fred^^> http://www.google.no/search?q=typo3%20high%20performance
17:58 twoten I just made my tea, with honey
18:02 Denyerec you suffering a cold too?
18:03 twoten the flu, first time I ever had it
18:03 Denyerec :(
18:03 Denyerec I have suffered with that only twice. Twice is enough.
18:03 Denyerec I couldn't walk for 3 days the last time I had it :S
18:04 twoten I know, now I understand why so many died in 1918, you go down and don't come back up
18:05 Denyerec Aye
18:05 Denyerec makes me laugh when people call a normal cold "flu"... they have no idea!
18:05 twoten I had no idea, it was always a mystery to me, I'm 51 and got it for the first time
18:06 Denyerec I think I'll be fine if I fit wiper-blades to my monitor
18:06 Denyerec :)
18:07 twoten that's funny
18:07 Denyerec not from where I'm sat
18:07 Denyerec ;)
18:08 twoten with this flu my nose is runny but not stuffy or sore
18:08 twoten and I cough a lot but my throat does not get sore
18:09 Denyerec Something a friend told me once, was that to get over colds and flu more quickly he would keep washing his hands and face, many times a day.
18:09 Denyerec I don't know if it really helps, but it does make you feel better :)
18:10 twoten I also watch out for things like subway hand rails, where other sick people could have left something bad
19:03 m4rtijn hey
19:08 jopk hi
19:10 jopk I need to set a frontend user online, with php in a backend module. $GLOBALS['TSFE']->fe_user is not set in backend, is there another way to set a user online?
19:16 efouarge I'm running into an issue with powermail and date2cal exactly like this mailing list post http://lists.netfielders.de/pipermail/typo3-english/2008-September/053311.html
19:16 efouarge has anyone see this behavior before are and can give me a direction in correcting it?
19:26 nd_ Any more ideas about why forms using pi_getPageLink carry the correct link (index.php?id=4) but submitting them forwards be to my index.php losing the id=4 in between
21:09 nd__ Any more ideas about why forms using pi_getPageLink carry the correct link (index.php?id=4) but submitting them forwards be to my index.php losing the id=4 in between..?
22:58 HardPhuck not a very chatty evening :)
23:01 nd__ right... and still no solution to my problem.
23:06 HardPhuck i dont understand the question
23:06 HardPhuck submitting them forwards?
23:06 nd__ That could be one problem then
23:06 nd__ yes
23:07 nd__ I submit, page gets reloaded, but url gets rewritten to ndex.php instead of index.php?id=4 (my example)
23:07 HardPhuck use another link function then
23:07 nd__ Which one exactly? Every example uses this one... can't be that bad.
23:08 nd__ And the html outputted displays the link just fine... still there's kind of a rewrite happening...
23:08 HardPhuck so when you post the form you also get redirected to index.php?
23:09 nd__ yes indeed
23:13 nd__ Just as if the id is eaten away... if instead I use a hidden id field, it works... but that's no solution.
23:15 HardPhuck hmm just to be sure, try http://typo3.org/fileadmin/typo3api-4.0.0/df/d32/classtslib__pibase.html
23:15 HardPhuck other linking functions
23:15 nd__ Using pi_getPageLink already...
23:15 nd__ And, as said, in the output html the link is action="index.php?id=4" -- perfectly fine.
23:16 nd__ So the function does what it should do. That's why I don't see the problem..
23:17 HardPhuck that's really strange :/
23:21 nd__ That's what I think too...
23:21 HardPhuck do you have it online or on local machine?
23:21 nd__ local
23:22 HardPhuck sorry, i'm out of ideas
23:22 nd__ I can paste things...
23:22 nd__ if you tell me what
23:22 HardPhuck the source that generates the code, i guess
23:23 nd__ sure, lemme see
23:25 nd__ Gna, can't reach phpfi
23:28 nd__ Wasn't there somethiong else?
23:30 HardPhuck paste.phlogi.net
23:31 nd__ http://www.phlogi.net/t3/tspastebin/
23:31 nd__ Gna...
23:31 nd__ http://paste.phlogi.net/-5401b4bab4/
23:31 nd__ damn usability
23:33 nd__ Imagegine a content=' before that paste
23:36 HardPhuck k
23:38 nd__ hell, gotta go... if you find anything, I'll be back tomorrow
23:38 nd__ but even the validator sees no problem in my action statement
23:38 nd__ so the chances are narrow ;)
23:38 HardPhuck will check it out a bit

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