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00:07 wacky_ Is there an easy way to allow adding <object> and <iframe> inside normal Text frames ?
00:07 wacky_ I've tried a bunch of allowTags combinations .. but most of the time it doesn't work..
02:11 tomyN anyone home?
02:15 tomyN I installed Templa Voila and do not understand how to insert a new content element on a page
08:14 nd__ gmorning...
08:16 gerards hi all
09:48 loswillios morning
09:48 loswillios I have a weird html imaging problem
09:49 loswillios this one looks good: http://testbed.wi3-104.wiso.uni-erlangen.de/typo3temp/test.html whereas this one looks bad: http://testbed.wi3-104.wiso.uni-erlangen.de/
09:49 loswillios and it's the same code :/
09:51 loswillios I really don't know why there's a linebreak after each image
09:51 loswillios (or before)
10:23 maholtz|WORK @losillios: use diff to check the differences
10:23 maholtz|WORK ups @loswillios: i meant:)
10:27 loswillios maholtz|WORK: I copy and pasted it from the rendered source
10:27 loswillios it's really weird
10:27 maholtz|WORK so, check javascript, css
10:28 maholtz|WORK you could validate css and html for both sites... perhaps you see then an difference?
10:28 maholtz|WORK some import statements which are relative ?
10:29 loswillios right
10:31 loswillios This document was successfully checked as XHTML 1.0 Strict!
10:32 loswillios this sucks
10:39 maholtz|WORK @loswillios: float and display:inline is not an good combination afaik
10:39 maholtz|WORK and did you check your css?
10:40 loswillios I'm looking into it
10:51 foool anyone out there help me with menu probs?
10:55 maholtz|WORK read topic:)
10:59 ndee does anyone have a frontend-login-howto for the new sysext felogin?
11:38 nd__ HardPhuck: any clues?
12:14 pulponair is there a way to join more than one table using typoscript select
12:15 maholtz|WORK yep
12:16 pulponair maholtz|WORK: how?
12:18 maholtz|WORK select.join = yourtable
12:18 pulponair maholtz|WORK: more than one ;) got it meanwhile
12:19 maholtz|WORK perhaps you could put a snippet on snippets.typo3.org? :)
12:21 pulponair maholtz|WORK: join = tt_news_cat_mm ON (tt_news.uid=tt_news_cat_mm.uid_local) JOIN tt_news_cat ON (tt_news_cat.uid=tt_news_cat_mm.uid_foreign)
12:21 pulponair just put another join behidn
12:44 PatrickH hi
12:44 PatrickH how can i add a property to the <head> tag, using TS?
12:45 PatrickH i want to set <head profile="">http://www.example.org/profile">
12:50 maholtz|WORK you should look in tsref objects PAGE or CONFIG
12:52 PatrickH okay, got it page.config.headTag
12:54 PatrickH hmm, everytime i clear the cache there appears ÿa strange char inside <body>. looks like a y with a ' on it. After reloading it disappears.
12:54 Jahithber when typo5 will come ?? in few years or maybe faster??
12:56 loswillios maholtz|WORK: I ended up removing the icons
12:56 loswillios thanks for your suggestions though
12:58 PatrickH page.config.headTag=<head profile="">http://www.w3.org/2006/03/hcard"> doesn't work
13:00 PatrickH and this ÿ is still there, tried to save the template with without BOM no change
13:12 maholtz|WORK @Jahithber: afaik plan is end of next Year with first RC, FLOW3 should be there in a few months then
13:13 maholtz|WORK @PatrickH: afaik it should be page.headTag ?
13:14 maholtz|WORK @loswillios: np
13:23 PatrickH @maholtz: you're right!
13:24 PatrickH now i have to get rid of this strange char before doctype ÿ
13:25 maholtz|WORK ah it is the first character? perhaps it comes of an extension
13:26 maholtz|WORK if there is an extension included, which does not start with <?php but with BOM or newline, it could lead to such errors
13:28 PatrickH hmm i use short <? instead of <?php
13:29 PatrickH i changed that, but still the same
13:29 maholtz|WORK you should save that files without BOM
13:30 Ruudi greetings
13:31 PatrickH yap. i changed <? to <?php and saved new without BOM. works now
13:31 PatrickH big thx
13:31 maholtz|WORK :)
13:32 Ruudi anyone has experience with the Translit.txt file? I want to chaneg my äöü in URL addresses to aou not ae oe ue, but not able to do it changing the values in Translit.txt anywhere else I should look?
13:32 nd__ Any more ideas about why forms using pi_getPageLink carry the correct link (index.php?id=4) but submitting them forwards be to my index.php losing the id=4 in between..?
13:33 kelola hi, I want a set of content records to have the hidden property. Is there an easy way to do that? If not, what is the difficult method? :P
13:34 maholtz|WORK @kelola: not sure if i understand you right - if you use kickstarter to create your table structure there should be an option for that (or it is autmatically included)
13:35 maholtz|WORK @nd__: check .htaccess / rewriteRule etc
13:35 nd__ maholtz|WORK: Did and disabled them... nice try though :)
13:35 maholtz|WORK realurl?
13:36 nd__ no
13:36 kelola mmm I really don't know how kickstarter works... but should I use Extend existing tables?
13:36 nd__ maholtz|WORK: Nothing to rewrite on the systems I test on atm
13:36 kelola the thing is that I want the icon show in the backend, like in news records for example
13:38 pulponair nd_: did you set the form method?
13:38 nd__ kelola: I'd say that's a tca thing.. but that's all can say
13:38 nd__ pulponair: Yes... it's get
13:38 maholtz|WORK @nd__: perhaps there is an hidden input field "id" in your form?
13:38 pulponair nd__: try post just for testing purpose
13:39 nd__ maholtz|WORK: There's not. If I add that though it works fine...
13:39 nd__ pulponair: Ofcourse I can and will try this in a few minutes, but what should change?
13:39 kelola thank you nd__ I'll search in there :)
13:39 pulponair nd__:just try
13:43 nd__ WTF?!
13:43 nd__ pulponair: Ok, that works. Can you give me an explanation?
13:44 pulponair nd__: i dont know for sure but i experienced a similar behavior it seems as if some browsers dont like get parameter in action on a get form ...
13:44 pulponair nd__: guess the best way is to used get + hiddenfield or post
13:45 nd__ thanks
13:46 nd__ And I have another problem
13:47 nd__ Clicking on my ext in the ext manager I always get ALTER changes (but there's nothing to alter). Why could that be?
13:47 maholtz|WORK @pulponair: thanks too:)
13:48 pulponair nd__: you could try to urlencode the index.php?id=x and revert to get ...
13:48 pulponair nd__: just for testing purpose
13:48 nd__ hmm
13:48 nd__ I will try this one too... nice
13:48 pulponair nd__: would look like: index.php%3Fid%3Dxx
13:48 pulponair replace xx by your id
13:49 nd__ but I get the index.php?id=4 from pi_getPageLink etc... so this would be a weird solution for longtime
13:49 pulponair nd__: run urlencode on the whole string
13:49 pulponair nd__: should be encoded anyway using xhtml
13:49 nd__ Yes -- as said I will try
13:56 nd__ Well, this is different :)
13:56 nd__ The requested URL /typo3/eins/index.php?id=4 was not found on this server.
13:57 nd__ so I will run with post for now... though I find it odd (and I'd prefer get for nice urls)
13:59 nd__ Do you guys have an solution for the other problem too?
14:00 HardPhuck hey, nd i see you found the problem
14:01 nd__ I found the problem, but pulponair gets all credits for finding the solution :)
14:02 HardPhuck :)
14:08 kelola I've modified the calendar extension looking to news files. I've changed tca.php and ext_tables.php. I've added a field to the database too
14:08 kelola but I cannot see the hidden icon
14:08 kelola any idea?
14:08 kelola probably I've made wrong modifications
14:08 kelola but... maybe there's something I'm missing
14:29 nd__ kelola: Sorry, no idea
14:39 kelola don't worry nd__
14:39 kelola i've achieved the functionality
14:39 kelola but... I still don't know how to show it in list view
14:41 nd__ Afaik it's not
14:43 maholtz|WORK @ries2: nope, ruby
14:43 nd__ Well, no I have then same problem as before with post... at least on one form
14:44 nd__ s/no/now/
14:44 maholtz|WORK @ries2: http://www.redmine.org/
14:49 maholtz|WORK @ries2: because of the tool "redmine" - it was quicker to use it, instead programm it in php
15:33 nd__ pulponair: Enjoy
15:33 pulponair nd__:yeah i wll
15:58 mistermethod hi, is there a way to make a condition for just one Content element?
16:00 mistermethod i tried [uid=24] and [globalVars = TSFE:uid = 24]
16:00 mistermethod both don't work
16:00 maholtz|WORK @mistermethod: that is not possible - conditions are global
16:00 maholtz|WORK you should use if for that
16:00 maholtz|WORK look in tsref for that
16:01 maholtz|WORK if statements in typoscript are not similar to if statements in php
16:01 mistermethod oh ok ill try, thanks
16:16 mistermethod i'm still stuck, this is what i'm trying: the dataWrap of a CE should be changed if the UID of the CE is 24
16:16 mistermethod tt_content.stdWrap {
16:16 mistermethod dataWrap.override = |
16:16 mistermethod dataWrap.override.if.isTrue.uid = 24
16:16 mistermethod }
16:16 mistermethod doesnt do the trick
16:18 maholtz|WORK nope, because if gives you only true or false
16:18 maholtz|WORK which means render: yes/no
16:18 maholtz|WORK wait, i think i am false
16:18 mistermethod ok the way i understand it is that if my IF is true then the dataWrap.override will work?
16:19 maholtz|WORK if.equals.field = uid
16:19 maholtz|WORK if.value = 24
16:19 maholtz|WORK test that:)
16:19 mistermethod phew
16:19 mistermethod :D
16:19 mistermethod thanks
16:22 mistermethod i hope i'm doing this right ...
16:22 mistermethod tt_content.stdWrap {
16:22 mistermethod dataWrap.override = |
16:22 mistermethod dataWrap.override.if.equals.field = uid
16:22 mistermethod dataWrap.override.if.value = 24
16:22 mistermethod }
16:22 mistermethod doesnt work either
16:22 mistermethod i think its time for a book on TS :D
16:23 maholtz|WORK well, dataWrap.xyz does not work:(
16:23 maholtz|WORK i oversee that
16:24 mistermethod too bad ... my idea is so simple and i've been trying for hours now :D
16:24 maholtz|WORK but you do not need dataWrap, you could use insertData = 1
16:24 maholtz|WORK use outerWrap instead of dataWrap and then insertData = 1
16:25 maholtz|WORK or explain what you want to do:)
16:27 mistermethod well what i'm trying to do is i have a CE which i am using several times on one page (via Insert Records). but as typo3 wraps each CE with a <a id="xx"> the page doesnt validat because the same id is used over and over. so i'm trying to remove the datawrap for this single CE
16:27 mistermethod i dont need it to have an <a id>
16:31 maholtz|WORK hm.. instead of dataWrap you could use prepend = TEXT and use there dataWrap and if
16:32 maholtz|WORK or as i said, outerWrap.dataWrap ... + outerWrap.if....
16:35 mistermethod i have to admit i dont get the syntx, do you have a good lnik that could show me the correct syntax for an if condition
16:36 maholtz|WORK perhaps: http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Ts45min
16:38 mistermethod The maybe most difficult TYPO3-function is the "if"-function because every programmer who is familiar with it instinctively misuses it. ... that describes it pretty well :D
16:40 maholtz|WORK it is there in german and dutch too
16:41 tomyN hi, I am looking for a Templa Voila Tutorial. Not the manual that comes with the installation package. E.g. how to add content elements, thanks
16:49 mistermethod if im getting it right this should work now but still doesnt:
16:49 mistermethod i'm setting datawrap = | IF the field uid equals 24. am i not?
16:49 mistermethod tt_content.stdWrap.outerWrap {
16:49 mistermethod dataWrap = |
16:49 mistermethod if.equals.field = uid
16:49 mistermethod if.value = 24
16:49 mistermethod }
16:50 maholtz|WORK well, did you unset the originial dataWrap?
16:50 maholtz|WORK tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap >
16:52 mistermethod why would I? i want the data wrap to be working for all other CE so if i unset it its lost for all?
16:56 mistermethod they way i understand ist as soon as i user the > i'm deleting the contents of whatever im unsetting ... so i wouldnt do that but my code should only overwrite the dataWrap when the "if" becomes true
16:59 maholtz|WORK but you cannot "overwrite" that dataWrap
16:59 maholtz|WORK tt_content.stdWrap.outerWrap.dataWrap = your new datawrap | is here
17:00 maholtz|WORK and then you can use if on outerWrap to disable outerwrap - and with that the dataWrap inside
17:01 mistermethod but isnt that line the same as tt_content.stdWrap.outerWrap { datawrap = | } ?
17:01 maholtz|WORK test this:
17:01 maholtz|WORK tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap = |my first datawrap
17:01 maholtz|WORK tt_content.stdWrap.stdWrap.dataWrap = |my second datawrap
17:01 mistermethod ok
17:01 maholtz|WORK there you have 2 dataWraps!
17:01 maholtz|WORK nope, it is not the same
17:03 mistermethod oh boy
17:03 mistermethod :D
17:06 mistermethod next attempt: i delete all datawraps IF uid = 24? right? but this causes ALL datawraps to be deleted not only the one on my uid 24
17:06 mistermethod tt_content.stdWrap {
17:06 mistermethod dataWrap >
17:06 mistermethod if.isTrue.field = uid
17:06 mistermethod if.value = 24
17:06 mistermethod }
17:07 maholtz|WORK @mistermethod: you forgot the outerWrap.dataWrap and the ifs should be on outerWrap instead stdWrap too:)
17:08 mistermethod i'm completely confused ...
17:10 bzera I'm attempting an install of Typo3 version 4.2.2. I unzipped it all successfully to my webserver, edited the permissions and the symlinks correctly. When I go to my dummy site, though, nothing happens. No errors or warnings displayed to the screen OR to my apache log files.
17:10 bzera Has anyone encountered this installation issue?
17:12 mistermethod ok my last try to understand this for today:
17:12 mistermethod if i enter
17:12 mistermethod tt_content.stdWrap.outerWrap {
17:12 mistermethod dataWrap = abc |
17:12 mistermethod }
17:12 mistermethod that wraps all my CEs with ABC
17:13 mistermethod so all i should have to do to wrap only ONE CE is adding a IF clause to the whole process
17:13 mistermethod this IF clause would be
17:13 mistermethod if.equals.field = uid
17:13 mistermethod if.value = 24
17:14 mistermethod thats how it makes sense in my head :D
17:14 mistermethod but obviously not to typo3
17:20 maholtz|WORK @mistermthod: i would think you are right, perhaps you have an typo? the if is int the outerWrap { if ... } right?
17:24 mistermethod yeah i was wrong there, sorry. that actually works. but is doesnt replace the dataWrap instead it ADDs to it, so my new dataWrap with that method is "abc <a id="24>" ... i feel like i'm close to the solution but i'm still stuck. what do i have to do to OVERWRITE the dataWrap instead of adding to it. to overwrite iot for ALL CEs i simply write tt_content.stdWrap.dataWrap > but how can i...
17:24 mistermethod ...include that into my piece of script here ...
17:27 maholtz|WORK 1.) in your dataWrap is someting like <a id="c{field:uid}"... put it in your new dataWrap and unset the default dataWrap
17:27 maholtz|WORK 2.) then add if.negate = 1
17:27 maholtz|WORK so you get the dataWrap only, if the ce is not 24:)
17:27 maholtz|WORK your very close
17:28 wacky_ I'm having weird behavior: in a normal Text/Image content element, when I check the "Image width" and set a width.. when I click save.. it's just discarded..
17:28 wacky_ it's never saved, when I reopen the Text/Image element, the box is unchecked, and the width isn't there anymore
17:29 mistermethod @wacky_ how wide is the width you want to set?
17:29 mistermethod typo3 has a standart wirdth of 600px
17:29 mistermethod if you want wider images you have to change the constants
17:30 wacky_ I want to shorten them..
17:30 wacky_ I want to set to 400
17:30 wacky_ isn't that what's the "set max width" supposed to set ?
17:31 mistermethod ok wait maholtz, let me get this: i have to unset the default datawrap, there is no way around ... but that always happens for ALL CE's, i dont see how i can include it into my if clause
17:31 wacky_ mistermethod: do you know where is that default width set ?
17:31 mistermethod @wacky_ yes thats right, than my solution doesnt help you any further
17:32 mistermethod you can set the max width for ALL images in the template -> constants editor
17:32 wacky_ yeah.. I'll start with that.. it's not going to hurt.. probably going to help..
17:33 mistermethod @wacky_ well it is a workaorund but doesnt get you rid of your problem in general :) ... if you ever want to user smaller / wider images yoll have the problem again
17:34 maholtz|WORK @wacky: can you set width to 100 ?
17:34 wacky_ mistermethod: yeah, true but that tweak solves most of the problem :) I mean, anyone adding an image won't even have to use the set width thing..
17:34 wacky_ it's going to be neat by default :)
17:34 wacky_ maholtz|WORK: let me try
17:34 mistermethod :D
17:35 wacky_ maholtz|WORK: it just doesn't save anything
17:35 wacky_ (and btw, it doesn't check the box automatically either.. just thought it should work that way because most other widgets of the style behave that way)
17:36 maholtz|WORK ok, just check other field types and other content elements for that
17:36 maholtz|WORK you can save text fields?
17:36 wacky_ it says the height, and everything else..
17:37 maholtz|WORK @wacky_: perhaps some javascript errors arround? which browser which T3 Version do you use?
17:37 maholtz|WORK only width does not work?
17:37 wacky_ just not the width (or the width in the options palette)
17:37 wacky_ both widths don't work
17:37 wacky_ Typo3 4.2.2, Firefox 3.0
17:37 wacky_ I'll try with Konqueror
17:38 mistermethod maholtz i'm close to giving up ... cant you give me the final hint? pleeeease :)
17:40 mistermethod oh you already did
17:40 mistermethod damn i'm blind
17:40 mistermethod i think i got it
17:40 mistermethod let me try
17:41 nd__ pulponair: Still have a clue why one form now works and another one now fails?
17:43 mistermethod oh wow i got it. incredible ... thanks a lot maholz
17:43 mistermethod finally
17:45 jangla anyone got any experience running nc_staticfilecache and realURL side by side? seems whenever I set a site to no_cache = 0, all pages but the home page can't be found anymore.
17:45 maholtz|WORK @mistermethod: would be happy if you put it into snippets.typo3.org *g*
17:45 mistermethod :P
17:45 mistermethod will do
17:46 mistermethod thanks for not just telling me but helping me get there ... i think that added a lot to my understanding of how TS works
17:46 mistermethod time-consuming process though ^^
17:47 NublaII I have a problem on my pages: when a content element gets rendered, the header is wrapped with something like '<h4 id="l33445566">'
17:47 NublaII the first character on the id is not a number, it's a letter 'L'... and I don't know where it comes from...
17:48 NublaII plus I can't link to that content element... where can I look for the code that generates that?
17:48 NublaII looks like a stray 'l' somewhere but I can't just grep for that...
17:49 mistermethod it might not be a very "clean" solution if you don't find it nublaII just overwrite the dataWrap?
17:49 NublaII should be on the dataWrap then... tnx for the pointer...
17:50 maholtz|WORK @mistermethod: your welcome - yep, understanding typoscript is time-consuming:(
17:56 maholtz|WORK have to leave now - bye
17:56 pulponair hmmm are there any known bugs regarding realurl/typo 4.2.2/tt_news ?
17:56 mistermethod i would add it to the snippets but the page wont accept my captcha
17:56 mistermethod bye maholtz
17:56 pulponair my realurl config stops work (no nice news links)
17:57 maholtz|WORK @mistermethod: if you have an login at typo3.org you can use that
17:57 maholtz|WORK bye
18:08 jangla anyone got any experience running nc_staticfilecache and realURL side by side?
18:40 NublaII Mmm... can't figure it out... what exactly adds the anchor to an header <Hx> tag?
18:40 NublaII lib.stdheader.stdWrap.dataWrap ?
18:47 foool Hi I have 2 menus one above the other
18:47 foool lib.nav.30 < lib.nav.20
18:47 foool lib.nav.30.wrap = <div id="nav_main2">|</div>
18:47 foool This works okay in Explorer but not in Firefox. I also want to change the entrylevel of one of them, can anyone put me right?
19:39 kruim444 Hello!
19:41 kruim444 I'm trying to get the extension "qforms" working but when I trie to use the wizard it says: TYPO3 Fatal Error: Extension key "xajax" was NOT loaded! (t3lib_extMgm::extPath)... I'm a newbie in typo3 and don't have a clue what it means... first I thought maybe another extension to install but I can't find anything....
19:44 kruim444 is it maybe not compatible to the version 4 of Typo3 or not reviewed?
19:45 nd__ kruim444: I'd say it's using xajax... so you have to install that
19:46 kruim444 but I cound't find something like that with the ext Manager, but I'll have a look again
19:47 kruim444 ok, via Ext Manager I found nothing, at the online repository I found it. I'll have a look at it and try to install. Thanks!
19:49 nd__ In ext mgm settings, check the thing about insecure exts...
19:51 kruim444 checked it and I should show everything
19:54 wacky_ I'm trying to enable the use of <object> and <embed> tags in the standard Text/Image tt_content elements
19:55 wacky_ is that possible ?! I've fixed the htmlRTE, it now accepts the tags, (it doesn't show them, but that's alright).. but when they're rendered on the front-end, they're htmlentities() escaped
19:55 wacky_ how do we disable that ?!
19:55 Ruudi anyone knows is it possible to make css filelinks load icons only on demand, it makes like 50 requests couse every doc icon is listed in filelinks css
19:58 bzera I've followed the install directions for Typo3, ensuring permissions are set and that the symlinks are correct. When I visit the root of the site, though, I get nothing. No error messages are published to the screen and nothing makes it to the apache error log. Changing the error reporting in the index.php file to E_ALL outputs one error: Notice: Undefined index: ORIG_SCRIPT_FILENAME in /var/www/typo3_src-4.2.2/index.php on line 49
19:58 bzera Has anyone experienced this installation problem?
21:47 jangla can anyone help me with an issue I'm having with nc_staticfilecache and realURL?
23:35 hi-ho Hi, I need a clear and simple tutorial for the news extension
23:45 HardPhuck isn't the documentation simple enough?

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