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13:55 m4rtijn crisb2010 - u could use the jquery no-conflict setting
13:55 m4rtijn crisb2010 - but I dont think there will be problems
13:55 m4rtijn jQuery.noConflict()
13:55 crisb2010 found it, thanks
13:56 m4rtijn maybe you could solve the random stuff as well in jquery
13:56 pmk65 Has anyone here used any of the Google Maps extensions for TYPO3? Which one is best?
13:57 m4rtijn there are google maps extensions? :p
13:59 pmk65 There's 4-5 different ones, but only one with manual.
14:01 m4rtijn what would you like to do with it?
14:01 pmk65 Georg made one of them, so I guess I'll try that one first. As his ext always work. :)
14:01 pmk65 I need to be able to place my own "pins" on the map, from locations in the DB.
14:02 m4rtijn kk, could you let me know if it worked.. I have a project in the near future with that requirement as well
14:05 nd__ pmk65: thanks
14:06 pmk65 m4rtijn: Sure. Im going to try the ones at TER, and see if any of them can be used out of the box, or if I need to write my own.
14:07 m4rtijn pmk65 - if you're going to write your own, maybe we could collaborate somehow
14:07 pmk65 good idea
14:07 m4rtijn like.. I could write/translate your docs :)
14:07 m4rtijn or do the graphics
14:40 nd__ pmk65: I tried the rggooglemaps or similar about six months ago... well, so so... but you cannot draw a route between the points (that's what I needed)
14:40 pmk65 nd__: Is it possible to place your own pins on the map?
14:41 nd__ Yes. But they had to be added as content elements in the container if I remember correcly (and I'm not sure about the latter)...
14:49 pmk65 nd__: I can see that. That's ok, as I could easily make an extension that creates the correct records. My problem right now, is that I get no map displayed in the FE, but it works fine in BE.
14:51 nd__ pmk65: Sorry, as soon as I found out there's no way to create routes between points I uninstalled it
14:51 nd__ pmk65: So just in case you build such an extension think about this functionality ;)
15:01 pmk65 nd__: That feature could be cool, if combined with this: http://www.phatfusion.net/googleDrive/
15:17 nd__ pmk65: harhar... gta1 style
16:12 m4rtijn re
16:12 m4rtijn I hate customers
16:12 m4rtijn :)
16:13 Stoffel <aol>ME TOO!11</aol>
16:13 m4rtijn :)
16:15 m4rtijn hmm... what is the /uploads/pics folder for?
16:15 m4rtijn or when is it used?
16:29 Denyerec I always disliked the /uploads/ folder
16:29 Denyerec it's not part of fileadmin
16:29 Denyerec so I think primarily it's for system level uploads, like icons from TV and such extensions
16:30 Denyerec but if the user is stupid enough to hit the "upload" button instead of the little folder icon, then thei rfiles endup there and they cant get to them from the filelist module anymore
16:31 chefan cms= content mismanagement system?
16:32 m4rtijn I always explicitly tell my customers to use the "file" module to upload - apparantly they dont listen
16:36 Marit hi i have the following problem when trying to open the install/index.php in firefox: "In the source distribution of TYPO3, the install script is disabled by a die() function call." and the solution should be to out-comment the die function inside the typo3/install/index.php. but i cant find this line and i am 100% sure that i opened the right index.php! i try to install typo3 4.2.1
16:37 m4rtijn marit - you need to create a file ENABLE_INSTALL_TOOL
16:38 m4rtijn in /typo3conf
16:39 Marit ah! thx, i have searched for it, but thought its just a variable
16:41 dinsdale07 :Marit it's weired that you get the message though - you have some other sources still linked? The message shouldn't mention the die() call anymore in T3 > 4.1
16:42 Marit no i have used the package "Source with Dummy site ZIP" 4.2.1 but on the webspace havent been typo3 before
16:42 Marit but it is also strange that i get the message though i out commented everything inside the install/index.php
16:43 dinsdale07 :Marit usually on that version you don't have to outcomment anything. It should actually tell you to touch that ENABLE file by default.
16:43 dinsdale07 http://typo3.org/typo3/install/index.php
16:45 Marit hm i didnt get that message and i have created the enable file now but i didnt change anything
16:46 m4rtijn Marit - r u updating a system or complete clean install?
16:46 Marit clean install
16:47 Marit i think i will delete the files and install the source and dummy packagaes apartly
16:47 dinsdale07 If it works it seems to be ok, maybe change back what you have changed in the index.php file.
16:47 Marit ok
16:47 Marit i will try it
16:47 m4rtijn Marit - if u have root access i'd recommend using symlinks
16:47 loswillios hi
16:48 loswillios has anyone had success with typo3-4.2.1 and debian stable (4.0)? Instead of the 1-2-3-installer showing up I just get a blank page
16:49 loswillios apache reports 200 - Ok, even with debug level: debug
16:49 dinsdale07 :loswillios - sure you set the symlink correct for index.php? check the content lenght in the http header
16:50 loswillios the symlink is correct. how would I check the http header?
16:51 dinsdale07 I had a blank page before and that was the problem for me. You can check the http header in firefox with the Extension Live http headers
16:51 Denyerec m4rtijn are you there?
16:52 Denyerec pulponair maybe?
16:52 Denyerec Need a bit of direction with a TV problem
16:52 m4rtijn im here
16:52 Denyerec I have already solved it, but the result is trapped on a VPN I can't get to.
16:52 Denyerec I have two fields, one for text, one is a link.
16:52 m4rtijn and im a TV - decliner
16:53 m4rtijn :)
16:53 Denyerec I want to append the link field to the end of the text field.
16:53 Denyerec The link field is NOT mapped
16:53 Denyerec cos in the HTML I'm mapping, the text container contains the link, therefore when I map the textfield, the link HTML vanishes and cannot be mapped to.
16:54 Denyerec I could modify the HTML I suppose
16:54 loswillios dinsdale07: indeed, content length is 0
16:54 loswillios dinsdale07: how did you solve it?
16:54 Denyerec but I wondered if there was a way to solve it by meddling with the XML
16:55 dinsdale07 :loswillios - I don't remember :-) I think it was the symlink not correct. Maybe also follow symlinks not allowed in your apache?
16:55 loswillios heh. /me chekcs
16:58 Denyerec make sense m4rtijn ?
16:58 loswillios dinsdale07: hm, looks good to me: http://pastebin.com/m343d1c6d
16:59 loswillios the site is not in /var/www but /var/www/foo/, but that shouldn't matter right
17:01 dinsdale07 :Denyerec - by using TS in the templavoila xml templates DS you can change a lot of things, also a wrap or TEXT should be possible. Unfortunately I still haven't found a documentation on this :-(
17:01 Denyerec The annoying thing is I know I've already done it once.
17:01 Denyerec But that website is currently on an intranet that the VPN is down for
17:01 m4rtijn Denyerec - i never used TV before :(
17:01 Denyerec so I can't just nick the code :(
17:02 Denyerec dinsdale - Yeah, I reckon I need to fiddle with the .wrap of the mapped field, and throw on to it the link field.
17:02 dinsdale07 :loswillios - looks ok to me too. maybe temporarily just replace the index.php with a file with some html inside to see whether the symlink ends up at the right address ... ?
17:02 loswillios good idea
17:03 loswillios dinsdale07: phpinfo() works
17:04 loswillios weird stuff
17:05 dinsdale07 u sure u have the original index.php? are you accessing index.php or /typo3/install/index.php?
17:06 loswillios oh god
17:07 loswillios thanks dinsdale07. I could have sweared that it worked on my previous installations
17:08 dinsdale07 :loswillios :-) too many index.php out there.
17:08 Denyerec chefan you there?
17:08 Denyerec Awillys perhaps ?
17:10 m4rtijn hehe
17:10 m4rtijn what makes a picture of jesus better then the real jesus
17:12 dinsdale07 :Denyerec, not the anser to your question but you could try to replace the stdWrap in the example with your wrap ??
17:12 dinsdale07 http://paste.phlogi.net/enable_br/
17:12 Denyerec trying :/
17:12 Denyerec Just trying to rememeber how.
17:13 dinsdale07 Aj - it ate all my xml .... ???
17:14 dinsdale07 http://paste.phlogi.net/enable_br-1/ a little better ...
17:14 Marit hi its me again, i have deleted typo3 from the server, but the message "In the source distribution of TYPO3, the install script is disabled by a die() function call." still existed, after uploading the packages Source und Dummy 4.2.1 and clearing the cache of firefox the message didnt get away. so the problem still exists.
17:14 loswillios dinsdale07: hm, but shouldn't the 123-installer be in the index.php? When I connect to /typo3/install/index.php I don't get the 123 installer
17:15 loswillios ah, now it works
17:15 loswillios heh
17:15 chefan yes
17:16 chefan Denyerec?
17:16 m4rtijn Marit - I never seen that message .. what php version do you have?
17:17 Denyerec hey chefan - you much good with TV?
17:17 chefan not at all. my wife spends more time watching tv
17:17 Denyerec Doh :(
17:18 m4rtijn hehehe
17:18 chefan lol
17:18 Denyerec this is SO frustrating... I did this just 4 weeks ago.
17:18 Denyerec And I haven't the faintest clue how :(
17:18 chefan no, seriously, i am backendish ;)
17:18 m4rtijn so anyway
17:18 chefan i even stay away from typoscript as much as i can
17:18 m4rtijn what makes a picture of jesus better then the real jesus
17:19 m4rtijn :)
17:19 Denyerec !pastie
17:19 chefan lack of smell of blood?
17:19 m4rtijn you only need one nail to hang it
17:19 Denyerec oooooh
17:19 chefan lol
17:19 chefan people were burnt in history for comments like that :D
17:20 Denyerec No kiddin!
17:20 Denyerec Ahh, the long last art of Lion Wrestling
17:21 Denyerec dinsdale07 - http://paste.mootools.net/d10caaca
17:21 Denyerec line 21
17:21 Marit i have php5
17:21 Marit m4rtijn
17:23 nkuttler Marit: sounds like you need to remove a die() call. i vaguely remember having done that.
17:23 dinsdale07 :Denyerec - does that work?
17:23 Denyerec nope
17:23 Denyerec it eats the mapped field
17:24 Denyerec and doesn't wrap anything onto it either
17:24 Denyerec of course
17:24 Denyerec it bloody helps if you put field_ in front of the fieldnames
17:24 Denyerec DOH
17:25 Denyerec now I just need to figure out how to make the /path/to/linked/file.jpg into a popup window link in TS
17:25 Denyerec any offers on that one ?
17:27 m4rtijn yeah
17:28 m4rtijn imageLinkWrap
17:28 m4rtijn = 1
17:28 Marit ah i maybe know why i have the problem. a friend tried to install typo3 on the server some days ago, maybe he did something wrong
17:28 Denyerec it's a text field right now m4rtijn
17:28 m4rtijn http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/Ts45min#imageLinkWrap
17:28 Denyerec and I just want it to say "click here" or somethin
17:29 m4rtijn Marit - for security reason he might have inserted the die() function
17:31 Marit yes, i will contact him tomorrw and thanks for your help! cu
17:31 Denyerec Hmm
17:31 Denyerec that seems to want an IMGRESOURCE object
17:31 Denyerec I simply have the URL.
17:31 dinsdale07 http://paste.phlogi.net/javascript/ :Denyerec this opens a new window via popup if it helps.
17:32 dinsdale07 it's in use here: (bottom) http://www.classicyachtevents.com/index.php?id=75
17:33 Denyerec mm
17:33 Denyerec problem is, I'm inserting the link via {field:field_link}
17:33 Denyerec so it's not parsing the typolink
17:33 Denyerec time for a COA I think
17:33 m4rtijn yeah.. sounds like COA
17:33 m4rtijn :)
17:36 Denyerec Hmm
17:36 Denyerec dinsdale07 - Pastie coming in!
17:36 Denyerec http://paste.phlogi.net/-4068c95b1f/
17:36 dinsdale07 can't you just read in the typolink parameter from your field instead of the current which I have?
17:37 Denyerec Could do...
17:37 Denyerec - field_fieldname
17:37 Denyerec or {field:field_link}
17:38 dinsdale07 does the above work?
17:38 m4rtijn did u guys know that it will be possible to register your own .tld soon ?
17:39 m4rtijn if you have like.. at least 1 million euros to spare that is.. afaik
17:39 Denyerec dinsdale07 - no
17:39 dinsdale07 Sounds like good news - should break down on the .com registering abuse
17:39 Denyerec http://paste.phlogi.net/-6ea3c88030/
17:39 dinsdale07 ok, then not that good :-(
17:40 m4rtijn imagine you own the .porn tld
17:40 m4rtijn you'll be rich
17:41 m4rtijn in like.. 10 seconds
17:41 dinsdale07 :Denyerec - shouldn't there be a current somewhere ?
17:41 Denyerec I don't know :(
17:41 dinsdale07 wasn't there a story with the domain porn.com or something ...
17:41 m4rtijn .. thats different
17:42 m4rtijn you could own porn.porn :)
17:42 dinsdale07 like it was registered by someone who explicitly didn't want to put porn on there..
17:42 Denyerec parameter.field....
17:42 m4rtijn hehe
17:43 Denyerec dinsdale07
17:43 Denyerec now it's echoing out the HTML as specialchars
17:43 Denyerec this is exactly the issue I had 4 weeks ago.
17:43 Denyerec the good news is the HTML it's echoing is correct :)
17:43 Denyerec I just need to get the specialChars off :
17:43 Denyerec :
17:43 dinsdale07 hehe :-) - quickfix, spit it out as text in a div and build your own link using JQuery :-)
17:43 Denyerec hah, no chance:)
17:44 Denyerec I know there was a fix
17:44 Denyerec Bloody VPN!!
17:44 Denyerec if the VPN was up I'd have the answer already
17:45 dinsdale07 there is a TS function I think, htmlspecialchars = 0 ??
17:46 dinsdale07 But started yesterday with jQuery - so far I'm realy impressed how quick and dirty you can do stuff - If you have JS enabled :-)
17:47 Denyerec haha yeah
17:47 Denyerec well, I know I used htmlspecialchars before somewhere
17:47 Denyerec the question is, WHERE
17:47 Denyerec *sigh
17:47 Denyerec I hate my memory.
17:48 Denyerec I just wish it WORKED
17:48 m4rtijn dinsdale07 - jquery rocks
17:48 Denyerec once in a while, I wish I could rememeber things :(
17:48 m4rtijn dinsdale07 - but I actually started with jquery because flash and google dont work together
17:48 dinsdale07 :m4rtijn apparently they do now - or are starting.
17:49 m4rtijn yes - they will soon index flash content
17:49 m4rtijn google and yahoo are working on it
17:49 m4rtijn so.. im not sure ..
17:49 dinsdale07 however flash is proprietry so better to avoid in my opinion
17:49 m4rtijn but - stuff like the datepicker in jquery
17:49 m4rtijn still I always have to assume not everyone has javascript enabled
17:50 dinsdale07 Since it took them years to get flash 7 on Linux or the 64 bit Version I stay away as much as I can.
17:50 m4rtijn which makes stuff like a datepicker absolete
17:51 dinsdale07 neither can you assume everyone has flash enabled. I have by default my flashblocker active
17:51 m4rtijn yeah.. true
17:51 m4rtijn are there statistics on that?
17:51 m4rtijn how many % users have js enabled
17:52 dinsdale07 and html v.5 will have embedded vids - I think that's where a lot of the flash usage now might become obsolete.
17:52 m4rtijn yay w3c
17:52 dinsdale07 yes there are, If I remember correctly 5% ... ??? anyone?
17:52 m4rtijn lol
17:52 Denyerec err
17:52 m4rtijn yeah
17:52 Denyerec HTML5 isn't due to be ratified until 2021
17:52 Denyerec NO JOKE either :/
17:52 Denyerec So I wouldn't get too worked up
17:52 m4rtijn 95% javascript enabled
17:53 m4rtijn in 2000 it was 80%
17:53 dinsdale07 OMG - I mean half of the current project group will be retired or dead by then...
17:54 m4rtijn hehe
17:54 m4rtijn cu tomorow
17:54 dinsdale07 Maybe they should give the the specification to Microsoft/ECMA to push it fast track through ISO :-)
17:55 Denyerec WArhjrgjdgahjfa
17:55 dinsdale07 cu m4rtijn
17:55 Denyerec I KNOW I've fixed this before.
17:55 Denyerec Bloody VPN going down, GAH
17:57 Denyerec any other offers dins ?
18:00 Denyerec ck- - you any good with TV ?
18:07 pmk65 nd__: I have sent you an email with my hookbased extension.
18:08 dinsdale07 Denyerec - I sat on that bit what I send you also half a day or so. We could really do with some more TV documentation or some tuts.
18:08 dinsdale07 On the other hand - have you tried ICE from JoH?
18:10 Denyerec .... no?
18:10 Denyerec never heard of i.
18:10 Denyerec it
18:10 dinsdale07 might be interesting since it seems to overlap with what TV does for CE.
18:10 Denyerec pmk65 - you got an idea why my typolink is rendering as htmlspecialchars and not as HTML ?
18:11 dinsdale07 It's still beta and in development but I tried it the other day and you can map you own datastructure in an html template.
18:11 pmk65 Denyerec: where?
18:11 Denyerec http://paste.phlogi.net/-0f707a163d/
18:11 dinsdale07 ok, gotta go shopping - Denyerec - if you are interested search for ICE in the TER.
18:12 pmk65 Denyerec: In the Flexform DS, set the value of <HSC> to 0
18:12 Denyerec AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
18:12 Denyerec PMK I LOVE YOU
18:12 Denyerec My firstborn is yours
18:12 pmk65 In TS, HCS = htmlSpecialChars
18:13 pmk65 I don't know how many times I have had the exact same problem.. :)
18:13 Denyerec Right
18:13 Denyerec now to fix the typolink params
18:13 Denyerec http://www.ashbyacupuncture.co.uk/customer-feedback.html
18:13 Denyerec deadlink
18:16 dinsdale07 :pmk65 is there any documentation on this, the <HSC> bit? I've been looking for a document who explains the xml structure of templavoila for quite a while
18:18 Denyerec hey dins
18:18 Denyerec the link is ALMOST working
18:18 Denyerec I'm getting a realURL
18:18 Denyerec error
18:20 Denyerec http://paste.phlogi.net/-682e8bddb9/
18:20 Denyerec http://www.ashbyacupuncture.co.uk/customer-feedback.html
18:31 pmk65 dinsdale07: only this one: -> http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/templavoila/1.3.7/view/1/5/
18:33 pmk65 but it's not totally up-to-date, as it doesn't describe how you can control the BE layout of your TV columns etc.
18:34 pmk65 But the BElayout setup is based on this ext: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/me_templavoilalayout/0.1.5/view/1/2/
18:34 pmk65 So the same DS setup now works directly in TV.
18:46 Denyerec waaa
18:46 Denyerec I can't figure this bleedin link out
18:46 Denyerec and the only example I have found so far is for an image link
19:01 pmk65 Denyerec: paste your code.
19:03 Denyerec Ok one sec
19:03 Denyerec http://paste.phlogi.net/-c6ed3b44d9/
19:04 Denyerec output: http://www.ashbyacupuncture.co.uk/customer-feedback.html
19:07 Denyerec as you can see the ReadMore link generates a realURL error
19:09 pmk65 why do you wrap the link with |,1 ?
19:09 theconic hi all, can someone tell me how to completely and correctly remove an extension out of typo3?
19:09 Denyerec pmk - in honest I'm not sure
19:09 Denyerec I was copying from another example on making a popup link
19:09 Denyerec if I remove that, I don't think it acts as a popup
19:09 Denyerec let me test
19:09 pmk65 theconic: first uninstall ext, then delete it usin extension manager
19:09 theconic i just imported too much of them, and i want to tidy up my extension manager
19:10 theconic am i stupid? there is a delete function??
19:11 Denyerec pmk65 - yes as I thought, without the |,1 it is just a normal link, no popup
19:11 Denyerec but actually
19:11 Denyerec I think that i might just create pages with the images in as content elements
19:11 Denyerec and link to the pages.
19:12 pmk65 Link from your page -> http://www.ashbyacupuncture.co.uk/fileadmin/user_upload/nurse.JPG,0
19:12 Denyerec Yeah :/
19:12 pmk65 If I remove the ,0 at the end, the link shows correctly.
19:12 Denyerec but for some reason, if I remove the |,1 or |,0 the link doesn't fire a popup at all.
19:12 Denyerec (even though right now it's firing a popup incorrectly, at least a popup appears!)
19:13 theconic found it, thanks... oh looks much better now ;)
19:15 pmk65 Denyerec: Try removing the 2 typolink lines, and replace it with this: -> 10.2.typolink.parameter.dataWrap = {field:field_feedbacklink} 123x456
19:15 pmk65 (Not tested)
19:16 kaktuspalme hi all
19:16 Denyerec Bravo!
19:16 Denyerec I should have spotted that :/
19:16 Denyerec one was overriding the other.
19:16 kaktuspalme now typo3 makes fun
19:16 Denyerec Now to get the image size from the image file, so the window can be the right size...
19:16 Denyerec Oh I LOVE puzzles...
19:16 Denyerec Thanks again pmk.
19:21 pmk65 Denyerec: The width/height you can get if you have performed some image operation on the image itself. (Just loading it into an IMG_RESOURCE will do)
19:22 pmk65 http://www.typo3wizard.com/en/content-comments.html?no_cache=1&tx_rfcontentcomments_pi1%5Bcontentuid%5D=454
19:59 nd_ pmk65: Thank you, received the mail. Will look at it tomorrow though (home!=work for workplace) ;)
19:59 pmk65 ok
21:22 ppk_ anyone there who may answer a general question regarding Type3 ?
21:27 Denyerec I can try
21:28 ppk_ Is it possible with typo3 to create a site on a local server, generate html sources and ftp them on a webserver that has no database on it ?
21:37 theconic i have a problem
21:38 theconic i have a frontend user called USER
21:38 theconic then a usergroup called SUBGROUP
21:38 theconic and a usergroup called MAINGROUP
21:38 theconic SUBGROUP is a subgroup of MAINGROUP
21:39 theconic and USER is member of SUBGROUP, but not of MAINGROUP
21:40 theconic now i make a text and set access to MAINGROUP
21:40 theconic but USER can't see it
21:40 theconic why?
21:41 theconic doesn't Maingroup inherit everything to subgroup and then to user?
22:14 pulponair hi there
22:23 Denyerec ppk_
22:23 Denyerec Yes.
22:23 Denyerec Very possible.
22:24 Denyerec you might even be able, if you were especially cunning, to buffer the output of typo3 and automate the whole process.
22:24 Denyerec Though you'd need someone better than me to tell you if that was 100% possible.
22:26 theconic i found the prob:
22:26 theconic u don't have to tell the maingroup which subgroups it has
22:27 pulponair Denyerec: hi dude
22:28 theconic but you have to tell the subgroup which maingroups it has, even if the label of the field is "subgroups", it should say "maingroups"
22:28 Denyerec Hey pulp
22:30 pulponair Denyerec: hey, how are you doing
22:36 nhaskins Hi
22:36 nhaskins I'm trying to create an extension template to insert a menu in the left column of my site (created using TempVoila)
22:36 nhaskins How can I determine the div to place something in using Typoscript
22:36 pulponair nhaskins: what do you mean by determine?
22:36 nhaskins choose
22:37 pulponair nhaskins: if there is a page template just look at its DS and override the tspath (if there is one)
22:38 nhaskins pulponair: I have a main menu already, and I want to create a sub menu on certain pages only
22:39 pulponair nhaskins: i you just want to insert a ts snippet into a "content column" you should use something like this :http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/tscobj/current/
22:39 pulponair nhaskins: or use a different page template for that page
22:40 nhaskins thanks, looks promising. I'll try the extension
22:40 pulponair nhaskins: you are welcome
22:44 nhaskins BTW, how can I read a "documentation" module
22:46 nhaskins nevermind, found it
22:49 milpoer hello
22:49 milpoer anyone with expirence with tt_news rss and xml-rpc pings ?
23:14 ppk_ Denyerec
23:15 ppk_ Anyone particular I can harras with my question :)

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