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01:36 dokma hey dudes. long time no see
01:37 dokma got an issue with administration log. namely it's totally empty. I didn't know it could be disabled. or could it?
01:38 ckoehler if so it's probably an option in the install tool
07:27 RAAT Hi everyone
07:29 Research I am trying to add date of birth before 1970 but admin panel is not allowing m to add date before 1970
07:47 Nicolas_from_Col Hello everyone
07:47 chefan Research: obviously not
07:48 Research its not possible
07:48 Research ?
07:48 chefan since when were people allowed to be born before unixtime?
07:50 chefan the timestamp used there will be a uinix timestamp. dates before 1970 would be negative
07:52 Research Any solution?
07:53 Research I have change the conditions of jsfunc.evalfield.js that file but
07:54 Research nothing happended
07:55 nd_ Using templavoila, I added a flexible content element. When I add one of those to the page, I get the whole page (including navigation) put into the content-area, including the FCE. Where's the error?
07:55 chefan Research: where exactly did you try to enter a birthdate before 1970?
07:55 Research At BE
07:58 chefan backend, ok. i cannot recall birthdates with backend user data, are we talking about an extension here?
08:08 nd_ No ideas, guys?
08:20 nd_ Well, working this morning... weird stuff
08:58 zeb2K9 hi all
08:58 zeb2K9 there is a french irc chat to support Typo3 ?
09:06 Nicolas_from_Col somebody speak spanish?
09:06 Philiptypo3dk Mornings.. howto create a 'shortcut' to mainpage in a menu?
09:07 Philiptypo3dk i've seen it in other backends, but i cant see any option "create shortcut" or something like that..
09:12 Nicolas_from_Col Create new page -> type: shortcut ,
09:46 beli hi, someone here using tt_products? what about its performance?
09:46 Philiptypo3dk doesnt work nicolas
09:48 _pedda_ hi all
09:51 ppe hello, I'm learning typo3 from a book. when the author is clicking in to the »typoscrpit object browser« so he is seeing the setup-root tree. I have also a template for my side, but I'm seeing only that: http://netzor.de/Bildschirmfoto.png
09:51 ppe I've got version 4.2.6
09:56 ppe ok, I've found it.
09:57 milpoer hi.. i have a problem with my image upload through RTE editor, i'm missing the fileupload option.. see screenshot.. it works in 4.1.10 but not in my 4.2.6.. http://typo3dev.pohldata.dk/fileadmin/screenshots/missing_fileupload.png
10:02 beli milpoer: with 4.2.x you click on a folder you want the file to be uploaded to, there is an icon with a green arrow pointing upwards for file uploads
10:03 beli milpoer: you are in the filelist module, right?
10:03 milpoer no...
10:03 beli page?
10:03 beli tell me
10:03 milpoer when editing a normal text element, and want to insert an image from the RTE, then i can click the insert/modify image,
10:04 milpoer and when choosing drag'n'drop i miss the upload possibility.
10:04 milpoer i have it in my 4.1.10 but not in 4.2.6
10:06 beli ? the image shows a folder tree...and the upload form.....these are not shown when editing a content element.....i cant remember it ever has been there
10:06 milpoer http://typo3dev.pohldata.dk/fileadmin/screenshots/missing_fileupload.png see my screenshot its from 4.1.10 so it has been.
10:07 beli milpoer: maybe...you want to do the following: edit "text w/ image"
10:07 beli then go to the media tab
10:07 beli and in the image section there is a folder icon...click on it
10:07 milpoer no, because then the images cannot be set within the text.
10:08 beli milpoer: ok, you want to add images from the rte
10:08 beli you need to enable it in the rte config
10:08 beli goto extension list
10:08 milpoer yes.. but i have that already.. do you have teamviewer ? then i can show you.
10:09 beli milpoer: yes
10:09 beli private message me
10:44 m4rtijn morning all
11:14 randomresult moin
11:14 zeb2K9 how to optimize my Typo3 database ? my DB size is 939Mo
11:15 mikhas_ hello folks.
11:15 mikhas_ zeb2k9: using indexed_search perhaps?
11:15 mikhas_ sorry, rephrasing... are you using indexed search perhaps?
11:16 zeb2K9 yes
11:19 mikhas_ zeb2k9: that one can expand quite a lot. try to install phpmyadmin and locate what tables that take up the most size, and try to find the extension relate to this, that's my tip.
11:19 zeb2K9 I have some big tables cache_hash(29MB),cache_pages(433MB),Cache_pagesection(12MB),index_fulltext(104MB),index_rel(185MB),index_stat_search(73MB) and other index tables with approximatevely 20MB
11:20 mikhas_ Typo3 4.2 - in the preview-mode (when logged in as a BE-user) I see the templavoila elements that I've hidden. How do I disable this?
11:21 zeb2K9 I'm on 4.0.2 can I clear FE Cache ? without losses data ?
11:22 mikhas_ zeb2K9: the cache-ones are related to frontend-cache, no loss of real data when emptying it, you just lose the cached-versions of it. index_.. -ones are related to indexed_search.
11:23 zeb2K9 I'm trying on dev website and I have minimize size of cache tables my full db reduce to 464MB, good ;-)
11:24 zeb2K9 what can I do with index_tables ?
11:33 HardPhuck guys, can i execute 'SET NAMES utf8' only in my plugin?
11:38 DaRocknessMonsta has anyone used the roundet corners extension on typo version 4.2.6 lately OR used it with GM
11:39 HardPhuck yes
11:39 HardPhuck works with no problems
11:39 m4rtijn HardPhuck: you can have tables which are UTF-8 even if the db isn't
11:39 DaRocknessMonsta strange
11:39 DaRocknessMonsta hardphuck : GM?
11:39 m4rtijn but I think u have to specify it with each query
11:39 HardPhuck DaRocknessMonsta: yes
11:40 HardPhuck m4rtijn: well there is an option setDBinit
11:40 DaRocknessMonsta i had the extension running on my test servers 4.2.3 / IM and when i t3d exported it live onto 4.2.6 / GM it doesnt work anymore
11:40 HardPhuck BUT i only want it in my plugin (long story:)
11:40 HardPhuck DaRocknessMonsta: check your GM path in install tool
11:40 DaRocknessMonsta GM works tho..
11:41 HardPhuck m4rtijn: that came because the database is faulty from the beginning but it's too big to be repaired now
11:42 HardPhuck so i only altered fe_users tables to UTF8 and reimported feusers from LDAP sesrvers
11:42 DaRocknessMonsta hardphuck but if the gm path would be wrong there would be no images displayd in backend either
11:42 DaRocknessMonsta but it seems to work i get no errors on imagecheck either
11:43 HardPhuck well there are several settings in install tool that need to be check
11:43 HardPhuck also click on imagemanipulation and see if there are any errors
11:44 zeb2K9 is it possible to reduce size of index_tables ? without losses db on the website.
11:44 DaRocknessMonsta where is that imagemanipulation found
11:44 HardPhuck install tool
11:45 DaRocknessMonsta yea i know but where ;>
11:46 HardPhuck 4: Image Processing
11:47 DaRocknessMonsta dont got that option there
11:49 HardPhuck click install tool on the left
11:58 DaRocknessMonsta i know what install tool is bro ;> i just compared all configurations of my test server where it works with my live server where it causes problems
11:58 DaRocknessMonsta theres no difference except the IM version
11:58 DaRocknessMonsta this is super strange
11:59 DaRocknessMonsta oh and the typo versino differs also as i already mentioned
11:59 DaRocknessMonsta version even
12:14 HardPhuck well, did you fint image processing in install tool_
12:18 DaRocknessMonsta no
12:18 DaRocknessMonsta ive send ya an pm
12:18 DaRocknessMonsta i found image processing of course
12:18 DaRocknessMonsta i know that one but
12:18 DaRocknessMonsta i cant find imagemanipulation
12:23 DaRocknessMonsta just did a DB dump to see if something in the t3d import failed
12:24 DaRocknessMonsta but still this ext doesnt work on my live server
12:24 DaRocknessMonsta but its configured the same
12:24 theconic is there someone who has compatibility with PDF under windows? (typo3 image reading)
12:24 theconic or at least knows well how to work that?
12:49 mikhas_ Typo3 4.2 - in the preview-mode (when logged in as a BE-user) I see the templavoila elements that I've hidden. How do I disable this?
12:56 zeb2K9 is it possible to reduce size of index_tables, without losses db on the website?
13:00 pmk65 mikhas_: Select the "Advanced" Tab on the page, you can then select if you want hidden elements visible or not.
13:05 pmk65 zeb2K9: None of my TYPO3 instalations has a "index_tables" table, so I don't think it's related to TYPO3 (Unless it comes from some extension)
13:09 zeb2K9 it's an extension
13:09 oversize hello, i want to delete a page which has subpages, but can not because of subpages. can i force a delete? as i know , what deleting subpages would mean? thx :)
13:10 zeb2K9 it's Indexed Search Engine 2.9.2(it's system extension of Typo3 4.0.2
13:11 sorenmalling oversize: Check the setting "Recursive delete" in "User settings"
13:11 zeb2K9 I need to upgrade this typo3 version, but if can reduce db size, I can win lot of time
13:13 oversize sorenmalling: great, thanks :D
13:35 LionRock hi
13:36 LionRock Im using plugin.tt_news.pageBrowser.maxPages = 10 so the page limit is limited to 10. But when user comes to page 10 there is no next pages displayed? Any tip ?
13:43 fred^ ugh, the cal ext. documentation is not good enough
13:43 fred^ :
13:43 fred^ :(
14:01 randomresult hi there
14:01 randomresult anyone around
14:01 randomresult ?
14:02 randomresult im having trouble with an external url in a navigation ... i want it ot open in a _blank page... but i dont get it to work
14:02 randomresult any ideas?
14:08 randomresult hmmm... there used to be a field where i could select the target... but this is not there anymore
14:09 LionRock randomresult: select page type as "link to extenral page"
14:09 randomresult we did this
14:09 randomresult but this page is not shown in a new window
14:09 LionRock Then there in pagetitle section you have targer option
14:09 randomresult (_blank)
14:10 randomresult :)
14:10 randomresult *blind*
14:10 LionRock :)
14:10 LionRock works ?
14:11 randomresult jupp
14:11 LionRock great
14:11 randomresult we have the german translation.
14:11 randomresult it used to be a dropdown
14:23 LionRock Im using plugin.tt_news.pageBrowser.maxPages = 10 so the page limit is limited to 10. But when user comes to page 10 there is no next pages displayed? Any tip ?
14:24 randomresult well... max pages means ... max pages
14:24 randomresult :)
14:26 randomresult what about showRange?
14:27 nd_ Anyone has a clue why my flexible ce in templavoila outputs a imagefield with fixed w/h as such: original: http://imagebin.org/46317 ce: http://imagebin.org/46316 ?
14:28 LionRock randomresult, yes maxPages means maxPAges, but when you click next page there should be one more new added and one old removed so there is always 10 pages. I have tried with showRange but no luck.
14:28 randomresult nd there is an default value for that entered (200)
14:28 nd_ XY = 200,150 <-- that one?
14:29 randomresult i guess yes
14:29 nd_ Apart from that, I have max and min settings for both h and w
14:29 nd_ ok
14:29 randomresult give it a try
14:29 nd_ I commented that one out, because I want to scale from width
14:29 nd_ so I change it to X = 200?
14:29 randomresult could u paste the xml?
14:29 randomresult then i can have a look
14:30 randomresult but yes change X
14:30 nd_ Sure, gimme a sec
14:31 nd_ http://pastebin.com/m451a4510
14:33 randomresult hmmm is this the xml made by TV?
14:33 nd_ not the whole xml but only the image part
14:33 nd_ you want it all?
14:33 randomresult no
14:33 randomresult thats fine
14:33 randomresult gimme a sec
14:33 nd_ sure
14:34 randomresult i have this
14:34 randomresult http://pastebin.com/m75df944
14:35 randomresult i dont know what u want to do... what ur aim ist
14:35 nd_ and it sclaes images if they're bigger than 275px?
14:35 randomresult yupp
14:35 nd_ My aim is: Whatever the input size, if it's bigger than x, scale it to w=x and h=proportional
14:36 randomresult then simply use my ts
14:36 randomresult this was made by TV
14:36 randomresult i only changed the width
14:36 nd_ (mine was done by tv too)
14:36 nd_ When I empty all cache, the images should get regenrated, shouldn't they?
14:37 randomresult yes
14:37 randomresult i think so
14:37 nd_ well, than it's not helping
14:37 randomresult hmmm what kind of type do u have?
14:37 randomresult i simply use image
14:38 randomresult not images fixed
14:39 nd_ changed that too, still same result
14:39 nd_ all image tests in installl tool look fine though
14:40 randomresult make a new element and give it a try
14:40 randomresult i mean a new contentelement
14:44 nd_ new element, same image, same result
14:44 randomresult hmmm
14:44 nd_ real big image in a new element -> no result (at least no image)
14:44 randomresult is it reachable for me?
14:44 randomresult the frontend?
14:44 nd_ http://neu.arbeiter-wohnbau.de/aktuelle-bauvorhaben/kandel/
14:46 randomresult it is always the same pic?
14:46 nd_ `at the moement, for testing, it is
14:46 randomresult ok
14:46 nd_ in real life (site's obviously not finished) they will differ
14:47 randomresult hmmm
14:47 randomresult well...
14:47 randomresult u use my ts right?
14:47 randomresult i could rebuild it in my web if u like to
14:48 randomresult or i can do it in ur web
14:48 nd_ I think so
14:48 nd_ lemme paste again
14:48 randomresult ok
14:48 fred^ have any of you worked with cal?
14:48 nd_ http://pastebin.com/m36fba34a
14:49 fred^ im trying to remove some parts from the template, but my problem is that there are loads of templates and the TS example setup is 3200 lines long
14:49 randomresult :)
14:49 randomresult well
14:49 fred^ and worse, the docs doesnt tell what is up with the usage of non-standard markers
14:49 randomresult replace the whole ts for the element
14:50 fred^ replace the whole TS? if i am understanding you correctly, that is not a problem - the problem is figuring out what bell i should ring to get it to work
14:50 randomresult fred: this was for nd_
14:50 fred^ aha :)
14:51 nd_ ah, I red it for fred :)
14:51 nd_ randomresult: What do you mean by the element?
14:51 randomresult nd_ replace the whole ts
14:51 randomresult wait
14:53 nd_ ah, ok
14:53 nd_ lemme try
14:53 randomresult http://pastebin.com/m157ea9b4
14:54 nd_ woohoo
14:54 nd_ working
14:54 randomresult :)
14:54 nd_ thanks alot
14:54 randomresult no prob
15:08 _pedda_ can anoyone of you remember the guy experimenting with cloud computing + typo3 here in the chan ?
15:08 randomresult _pedda_ no
15:09 nd_ me neither
15:09 _pedda_ hmm
15:09 randomresult why?
15:09 _pedda_ maholtz talked to him.. but maholtz is off...
15:10 _pedda_ i can't find the proper irc log
15:10 _pedda_ there was a link with additional information
15:10 _pedda_ i'm digging it out for someone else
15:10 _pedda_ ;)
15:13 unbob1 Hi gang! I was wondering how to allow more file types for the page media field. Any ideas?
15:13 _pedda_ installtool afaik
15:13 randomresult i think u can set this using the installtool
15:13 _pedda_ 1st ;)
15:13 randomresult damn... im on the phone!
15:13 _pedda_ jieppie
15:13 unbob1 hehe, ok
15:13 unbob1 thanks!
15:13 _pedda_ np
15:14 _pedda_ you're wlecome
15:14 randomresult btw: best film ever : over the hedge - better in english than in german
15:15 _pedda_ HACH ! 09:06 drindt if someone is interested in "typo3 goes cloud computing" so check out this document https://visetics.com-typo3-webserver-ebs-i686.s3.amazonaws.com/README and let me know your opinon.
15:15 nd_ randomresult: As for every non-german movie
15:15 _pedda_ hmpf
15:15 _pedda_ broken link
15:16 drindt _pedda_: greetings ;)
15:16 _pedda_ aah
15:16 drindt you need the new specs?
15:16 _pedda_ i was just wondering why your nick is highlighted in my paste
15:17 randomresult what means cloud computing?
15:17 _pedda_ i know someone in the inofficial german typo3 irc chan who starts to play around with typo3 and amazon ec2
15:17 drindt _pedda_: the url has moved https://visetics-32-eu-west-1.s3.amazonaws.com/README
15:17 drindt next days we release new 64 bit centos 5.3 images
15:17 _pedda_ i was digging for your link from http://www.rvantwisk.nl/index.php?id=113&tx_rvteggdroplog_pi1[year]=2009&tx_rvteggdroplog_pi1[month]=2&tx_rvteggdroplog_pi1[day]=24&cHash=0a729ae5f9
15:18 _pedda_ -from +on
15:18 drindt _pedda_: ah ok so i think you are interested about using it
15:18 _pedda_ not really i was just trying to diugg for your link to help someone else :)
15:18 _pedda_ i don't have enough knoledge to participate in this project
15:19 _pedda_ *knowledge
15:19 nd_ Is there a way to change the way a flexible ce is displayed in the tv-page module? As none of my elements have titles, it's a pain in the ass to edit them, because you don't see the content of it. Same in list-view.
15:20 randomresult thats why u need to add titles
15:20 nd_ but titles are outputted as hx-tags, aren't they?
15:20 nd_ Ah, that's header
15:20 nd_ dang
15:20 _pedda_ but thx for the new link anyway @ drindt
15:20 pmk65 set headerloayout to hidden
15:20 _pedda_ :)
15:21 randomresult nd: i dont think the header is displayed at all
15:21 drindt _pedda_: no problem, i would like write more docu but i have no time currently
15:21 nd_ pmk65: But then, it's for all elements? Because sometimes I need the headers for output... just not for this special fce
15:21 drindt probably this will be a good thing for the typo3 community
15:22 nd_ randomresult: You're right... well, even better. Thanks
15:22 pmk65 there's usually a header for every CE.
15:23 nd_ pmk65: It is. I meant I don't want an output for my fce, but I need it for other ces... but it's solved I guess....
15:23 unbob1 Maybe I'm retarded, but I don't see where in the install tool I can change file types for the page media field. I see that I can change filetypes that will be perceived as images, but I don't really want my filetype seen as image everywhere in typo. Is there another way to do it?
15:36 randomresult unbob1 i would give it a try in that way
15:40 unbob1 yeah, I tried it, and it works, but now that filetype can be uploaded everywhere that images can be uploaded
15:44 unbob1 so, any way to set allowed file types for the page media field specifically? tsconfig maybe
15:49 _pedda_ hmmm
15:49 _pedda_ i thing this should be configurable via pagets as well
15:49 _pedda_ let me take a look into my little ref.
15:50 unbob1 ty
15:54 _pedda_ hmm got it
15:54 _pedda_ you can preset the allowed filetypes modifying the tca table
15:55 _pedda_ check admin tools -> configuration -> $TCA (tables.php) and for example: tt_content -> columns -> image -> config -> allowed
15:55 _pedda_ $TCA['tt_content']['columns']['image']['config']['allowed'] = 'gif,jpg,jpeg,tif,bmp,pcx,tga,png,pdf,ai';
15:55 _pedda_ is mine
15:55 randomresult but this is global isnt it?
15:56 _pedda_ you can paste this line with additional suffixes into your localconf.php
15:56 randomresult pedda: is this global?
15:56 randomresult or can u set it for a single page?
15:56 unbob1 yeah, that is for all images, isn't it?
15:57 _pedda_ it is global then
15:58 _pedda_ this is only for the image field in backend of tt_content table
15:59 _pedda_ if you have an extension which uses the image field of tt_content, this extension is affected as well
16:00 unbob1 yeah, thats the same as setting it in install tool then :)
16:02 fred^ i can not get cal to listen to the locale setting of typo3 - everything in typo3 is correctly translated, except for cal. for example, dates is in 12 hour format, with am/pm
16:04 _pedda_ hmm i think i didn't get you then unbob1
16:07 unbob1 I'm looking for a way to change allowed file types for the page -> resources -> files (media field) specifically. Preferrably in the page-tsconfig
16:08 unbob1 sorry if I didn't make myself clear
16:10 _pedda_ and which additional filetype do you need f. e. ?
16:10 unbob1 swf
16:10 unbob1 and maybe xml
16:14 _pedda_ an why is adding these suffixes in installtool not that good idea in your project
16:14 _pedda_ ?
16:16 unbob1 because they are not images, and I don't want editors to have the possibility to upload them in image content elements? :)
16:17 _pedda_ hmm
16:20 pulponair hi there
16:24 unbob1 hey
16:40 unbob1 _pedda_: I solved my problem, in extTables.php I changed the value for $TCA['pages']['columns']['media']['config']['allowed']
16:40 unbob1 thanks for the help though!
16:40 _pedda_ ?!
16:40 _pedda_ lol
16:40 _pedda_ this is exactly the same what i told you to do a few minutes ago
16:41 _pedda_ ups sorry
16:41 _pedda_ i'm wrong
16:41 _pedda_ $TCA['tt_content']['columns']['image']['config']['allowed'] = 'gif,jpg,jpeg,tif,bmp,pcx,tga,png,pdf,ai';
16:41 cl lol
16:41 _pedda_ affects tt_content
16:41 unbob1 yeah, it's really the same solution, but not exactly :p
16:42 _pedda_ but move this line from extTables.php to localconf
16:42 unbob1 because?
16:43 _pedda_ i'm not quite sure if extTables is overwritten during an update
16:43 _pedda_ and the backend advises this as well
16:43 _pedda_ if you go to : admin tools -> configuration -> $TCA (tables.php) -> pages -> columns -> image -> config -> allowed
16:44 _pedda_ erm
16:44 randomresult _pedda_ i think localconf is the right place for this i guess
16:44 _pedda_ admin tools -> configuration -> $TCA (tables.php) -> pages -> columns -> media -> config -> allowed
16:45 _pedda_ if you click on allowed there is some tiny advice beyond the inputfield telling you to put a modified version of this line into localconf if you need to
16:46 unbob1 hmm, the extTables.php file is for overriding TCA, or at least so it says
16:46 unbob1 besides, it doesn't work in localconf.php :p
16:46 _pedda_ ok
16:46 _pedda_ :)
16:46 _pedda_ it works so what..
16:46 _pedda_ ^^
16:47 randomresult just remeber it when u update the web to a newer t3version
16:47 _pedda_ to check if it still works :)
16:48 unbob1 it would be better to put it in an extension, but I won't bother with that now :)
16:49 _pedda_ this means no bothering
16:49 _pedda_ just install kickstarter
16:49 _pedda_ create an "empty extension"
16:49 _pedda_ and put that line into the extTables.php of that extension
16:50 unbob1 four whole lines of bothering!? No thanks! :p
16:53 unbob1 anyway, work over
16:53 unbob1 must go home
16:53 unbob1 must
16:53 unbob1 goodbye
17:03 giso79 cu
17:14 HardPhuc hmmm i found a good markdown editor once, cant remember its name
17:29 nick108 does anybody know if it's possible to change the edit icon used for frontend editing through TypoScript?
17:30 nick108 looking at the docs of the admPanel property it seems not possible
17:34 nick108 but overwriting the icon in the typo3 folder is problematic, because after upgrading, the icon will be gone :-(
17:43 zdavis Good morning!
20:29 kraftb hello !
21:07 kraftb hey ...
21:07 kraftb anybody using "<INCLUDE" syntax in TypoScript
21:07 just2b yes
21:07 kraftb including "external" typoScript files
21:07 kraftb hey georg ...
21:07 kraftb do you know the problem, of not reacting on changes, ... so you'll have to clear the cache when changing those files ?
21:08 just2b no because i eliminat that
21:08 just2b admPanel.override.tsdebug.forceTemplateParsing = 1
21:08 just2b user tsconfig
21:10 kraftb ah ... ok.
21:10 kraftb but only while developing ?
21:10 kraftb i mean I just try to create a patch to avoid this problem ....
21:10 just2b would be cool
21:11 kraftb or rather: I created one ... I already created a patch some while ago. but it used md5 to build a fingerprint of the whole parsed typoScipt
21:11 kraftb which could probably consume a lot of cpu power.
21:11 kraftb and right now i am creating a patch which just checks the files mtimes
21:15 kraftb http://bugs.typo3.org/file_download.php?file_id=7246&type=bug
21:15 kraftb works for me ...
21:15 kraftb http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=6395
21:17 Provito kraftb, I have all my tscript in svn using INCLUDE
21:17 Provito version control and tscript would be a nice internal feature
21:58 kraftb there is a svn-extension in TER
21:58 kraftb it allows you to do an "svn update" in configured directories with a simple click
21:59 kraftb provito --> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/fdfx_svn/current/
22:48 pit moin!
22:48 pit (german? english?)
22:49 der_soenke pit: english, if possible
22:49 just2b english
22:51 pit i try to convince my collegues to leave our cms (java bases, multisite) and to think about using something else, maybe typo3.
22:51 pit between 75 and 100 sites, one system.
22:51 pit closed source.
22:51 pit we don't develope.
22:52 pit externel developers (very slow, very difficult communication, very expesive)
22:52 just2b it depends what you need.. i mean you wanna switch to php world with no reason?
22:53 pit when we started we planned to do site independend publishing.
22:53 pit sharing media objects and so on.
22:54 pit creating new documents in repository, publishing to different sites
22:56 just2b and there is still the quesiton what you need.. do you really the features of typo3
22:58 pit ok, i should collect our needs before asking with no special focus ...
22:58 pit we need role based workflows
22:58 just2b yeah i guess so... TYPO3 is great for many things and crap for many others.. ;)
22:59 pit we need a good editor (copy and paste from - sorry - ms word)
23:00 just2b no prob
23:00 pit most important: we need to find a good developer to realize migration ...
23:00 pit but first i need to find really good arguments to convince our company to leave our system.
23:01 just2b hehe, open source wins :D
23:02 pit just2b: you know & i know, but they don't have a clue ...
23:02 just2b yeah we know
23:03 pit you first got to take sure that there is a friendly atmosphere before you try to tell s.b. about things which are absolute new to them ...
23:03 pit otherwise they might be afraid ... :-(
23:03 pit god, my english ...
23:05 pit just2b: talking about my collegues, not about you ;-)
23:05 just2b hehe np
23:08 pit just2b: where in the www would you go to find good typo3 developers?
23:09 just2b 1st depends what you need.. i guess best for you would be an agency ?
23:09 just2b or just one dev, freelancer or so.. but does he need to be at your place, i guess so
23:10 pit should be, yeah.
23:10 just2b so i dont know where oyu are ^^
23:11 pit berlin, germany
23:12 just2b i know a good company in Werther ;)
23:12 just2b still 300km
23:13 just2b but i am not from DE; so no detailed knowledge, i know of course more than 1 company, but this is a good one ;)
23:16 pit could you give me some details about this company?
23:17 just2b > pm

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