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00:00 cricket__ anyone here?
00:02 timdeluxe yeah
00:02 timdeluxe but no idea how to help you
00:02 timdeluxe clear caches
00:02 timdeluxe and perhaps typo3temp
00:03 cricket__ Yes to both
00:03 cricket__ shall I clear typo3temp completely? Just removed pics
00:03 timdeluxe wait
00:04 cricket__ Sorry didn't want to be rude. Just wasn't sure if my were working propperly
00:04 cricket__ ...client
00:05 timdeluxe you could try to delete all, it doesnt hurt. but do it by install tool
00:06 timdeluxe but i wonder why you see them in BE
00:06 cricket__ ll try that right now. Thanks
00:07 timdeluxe you mean when you are logged in into the BE you could see the pictures in the frontend pages? you dont mean any filebrowser or anything else?
00:11 cricket__ No Just in Filebrowser. And I deleted everything in typo3temp in install-tool and cleared all caches. Didn't change.
00:11 timdeluxe hmhmhm
00:12 timdeluxe imageprocessing really works you said?
00:14 _pedda_ check another browser if image fe rendering fails
00:14 _pedda_ does the problem still occure ?
00:17 cricket__ Reading: All passed except PDF and AI (jpg, gif and png are fine); Writing: Gif works, Png not (Might that be a problem?); Resize: All but PNG works (Probably related to writing) Guess I just found a problem there
00:34 cricket__ to pedda. Tried on Internetexplorer. Same problem. I'm playing around with localconf.php now.
01:11 cricket__ hmm. didn't change. The only problem Can't write or resize png-Files
01:11 cricket__ Is that necessary?
01:11 timdeluxe no, its not a must
01:12 cricket__ Besides that all is fine
01:12 cricket__ And it's a jpg btw
01:13 cricket__ and of course still no images in FE :-(
01:13 timdeluxe strange
01:13 cricket__ Is it possible that's a problem with webhost?
01:16 timdeluxe mostly FE image rendering problems have to do with imagemagick probs, writing permissions or old data
01:16 timdeluxe imagemagick you already have checked
01:16 timdeluxe old data is deleted when clearing caches and cleaning typo3temp
01:17 timdeluxe writing permissions you can check with installtool
01:17 timdeluxe so it can only be some strange TS misconfiguration or another murphy error
01:19 cricket__ Well TS is pretty basic. And I use the default static Template...
01:20 cricket__ 10.marks.MAINCONTENT = COA
01:20 cricket__ 10.marks.MAINCONTENT.10 = CONTENT
01:20 cricket__ 10.marks.MAINCONTENT.10{
01:20 cricket__ table = tt_content
01:20 cricket__ select.orderBy = sorting
01:20 cricket__ select.where = colPos = 0
01:21 cricket__ }
01:21 timdeluxe then it is more murphy. did you move the installation to another host, are you just setting up a new one? til when did it work?
01:21 timdeluxe oh, oldskool templating
01:22 cricket__ never. I do the website for someone who already had that provider.
01:22 cricket__ The Install of Typo3 is from the host (system configurator install typo3) Permissions already set correctly.
01:23 timdeluxe hmhm
01:24 cricket__ When I include a picture with TS it's fine
01:25 cricket__ I guess I'll just flush the whole install and download from the website
01:25 timdeluxe yeah, sorry, my experience stops here
01:27 cricket__ Thanks for taking the time anyway. That cost me 4hrs :-(
01:28 timdeluxe yeah, all FE image rendering problems i had in the past had to do with these three
01:32 pascal Hey guys. Is there any reason why a GIFBUILDER mask with backColor = #ffffff produces not #ffffff but #fafdfc as a background? Also backColor = #000000 is brighter than #000000 when the image was rendered.
01:47 timdeluxe pascal: dont know, but perhaps this helps? http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/GIFBUILDER#TYPO3_.3E.3D_4.0.0
01:52 pascal timdeluxe: perfect, it seems as if it was a GDlib issue. thanks a lot
01:52 timdeluxe no problem
04:28 yakoi hi hi
04:48 yakoi what if I have multiple site hosted on same T3 instance, each having their own domains and I want to have site B listing tt_news related to site A where the generated link uses domaine of site A ... problem is that links are relative and no way to my knowledge to specify some kind of baseurl for a tt_news plugin. Anyone with any clue ?
04:48 pascal Just another short question: How can I assign the value of field:description outside of PAGE to a fontColor object? 10.fontColor = field:description does not work as this is outside of PAGE
04:50 yakoi try page:description, no ?
04:55 pascal no luck :-/
04:56 pascal Ah, my fault... just forgot the .data
04:56 pascal fine, thank you
08:45 bluespuke morning
09:24 LionRock morning
09:25 maholtz|WORK morning
09:41 sorenmalling morning
10:43 beli moin
10:44 bayer i made plugin of the type "Just include library - In this case your library is just included when pages are rendered." how can i instantiate that class (the plugin) within another plugin? is it possible at all?
10:45 maholtz|WORK it is possible
10:46 beli i am trying to configure the htmlarena rte to give me new color and block options....i added this to the pageTS (http://rafb.net/p/6KcJzT41.html)...its from the ext documentation....cleared cache....but no change...what am i missing?
10:46 maholtz|WORK @bayer: t3lib_div::makeinstance
10:48 bayer maholtz|WORK, this seems not to work
10:48 bayer i don't need to include the class file, do i?
10:48 maholtz|WORK imho you have too...
10:49 pmk65 bayer: Your lib is only included in TS, for PHP use, you need to do as maholtz suggested.
10:51 bayer and how do i get the path for the plugin to include?
10:52 pmk65 EXT:yourpluginkey/yourfile.php
10:53 pmk65 if you need the full path, you can use t3lib_div::getFileAbsFileName('EXT:yourextkey/yourfile')
10:55 beli hmmmm, i want to do a css-box around selected text. so i thought of tagging it with some class in the id and using css to do that. but how does it work?
11:07 pmk65 beli: If you are using HTMLArea, then you need to define the class in the TSConfig + you need to make the setup so that classes are allowed on the tags your are changing.
11:09 beli pmk65: i tried many tutorials so far...none worked...they did stuff in the user/groupTS....and in the pageConfig...they included a separate css file and stuff...but none worked
11:10 pmk65 HTMLArea is a pain in to configure.. That's why I use TinyMCE RTE on my sites. It's much easier to configure..
11:11 beli hmm is it possible to do what i need with TinyMCE?
11:12 pmk65 yes..
11:12 beli ok, then i will give it a try...thanks
11:13 pmk65 beli: To help setting up TinyMCE, I wrote a small config utility.. -> http://www.delusionworld.com/files/tinymce_rte-config-utility/
11:14 beli pmk65: there's tinymce 2.0.0 in the misc section and tinymce_rte 0.3.3 in the backend section....which one to choose?
11:14 pmk65 I think it's the "Styles" or "Format" dropdown you need to configure, in order to get your own boxes around the selected content.
11:15 pmk65 the config utility will create most of the config options you need for the various buttons/plugins.
11:15 pmk65 tinymce_rte
11:16 beli bah...thats nice stuff! create work!
11:17 gerards hi, does typo3 have a js escape function?
11:18 gerards written in php. does typo3 have a js escape function?
11:19 maholtz|WORK @gerards: what is a "js escape function"?
11:19 fred^ beli: you also might want to look into tinymce templates
11:20 beli ok fred^
11:20 gerards i meant in php can you do this
11:20 gerards echo 'alert( " ' . a_php_function( $somevariable) .' ");'
11:21 beli another thing thats confusing me all the time: userTS, pageTS, TSconfig, typoscript,........
11:21 gerards :) heeheeee hope that makes sense.
11:21 beli letme try to explain them and you can correct me...
11:21 beli userTS: TS for a special user.....or groupTS for a special group....
11:21 beli pageTS: TS for a page and subpages
11:22 beli typoscript: template ts
11:22 beli TSconfig: .....?
11:22 gerards maholtz|WORK: nvm. i have a nice web article that talks about it. if you want you can msg me and I can let you read it.
11:27 fred^ beli: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/core-documentation/doc_core_ts/4.2.0/view/
11:27 fred^ :)
11:27 fred^ i suggest you read up on that if you are confused
12:03 timdeluxe jahia?
12:21 pulponair hi there
12:22 pulponair who is the responsible contact to assign projects/svn access on forge.typo3.org?
12:22 just2b everybody can create a project
12:22 just2b or what do you mean?
12:22 pulponair background: I am unable to access my projects at the svn since it has been moved away from sourceforge
12:22 just2b are you logged in @ forge?
12:23 pulponair just2b: I got that extension "nh_tvdragndrop" there is a corresponding project at forge but it does not belongs to my but to nobody :)
12:23 just2b ask in typo3.teams.typo3org
12:24 pulponair just2b: mailinglist?
12:24 just2b yeaj
12:25 just2b wanna know how many i got?
12:26 pulponair just2b: no thanks ;)
12:26 just2b design, dev, english, german, tu.at, 5-general, hci, community, typo3.org, news, dam, t3board, core, irre, rte, jobs, sponsoring
12:26 just2b too late :D
12:26 just2b and newsreader is got for such things
12:26 pulponair just2b: flex, freebsd, typo3, core, dev, etc, ger,irre, tv,hamburg
12:29 beli fluxbox, netbsd, slackware, bugtraq & co
12:46 randomresult hi folks
12:46 beli hi
12:48 just2b no i am hungry ^^
12:48 randomresult well... this can be changed by eating something
12:49 just2b yeah i will do that ASAP ;)
13:11 ndee I have the site domain.com and I created a speaking url path for a subpage (domain.com/de/testdealer/). When I go to this subpage, the links in the menu point to domain.com/de/menu1 instead of domain.com/de/testdealer/menu1 . Anyone knows what that could be?
13:16 timdeluxe realurl? automatic configuration / own configuration? how did you create that speaking url?
13:17 ndee timdeluxe: I have an own configuration. I just filled out the speaking url field in the page properties.
13:19 timdeluxe i am not that familiar with that field, but i think it just creates a redirect
13:19 ndee timdeluxe: http://pastie.org/455673 <-- that is my configuration
13:20 timdeluxe okay
13:20 timdeluxe the part after "de" is the pagepath
13:21 timdeluxe so it just mirrors the pagetree
13:21 ndee timdeluxe: yes.
13:21 ndee ah, you mean in my example?
13:21 timdeluxe yes
13:21 ndee yes, it should mirror the pagetree
13:21 timdeluxe and testdealer just seems to be a redirect
13:22 ndee ah oops, I think I have to remove that testdealer thing from my config
13:22 ndee that was from earlier testing, I removed it now
13:22 timdeluxe perhaps, but i think that doesn't fully solve your problem
13:22 ndee timdeluxe: nope, it doesn't
13:23 timdeluxe just to understand: testdealer is a subpage with own subpages?
13:23 timdeluxe and "menu1" is one of testdealer's subpages?
13:23 ndee timdeluxe: exactly, domain.com is a company which has many dealerships. So each dealership should get it's own subpage.
13:25 ndee the menu links look like: <a href="de/subpage">Subpage</a> which leads to problems I think.
13:26 timdeluxe hm can you give me a realurl (perhaps in a query) just for better understanding?
14:54 sorenmalling I need some help with adding a mask to a image added in a "Image field" created with templavoila, but i can't seem to understand the TSref->imgResoruce part regarding masking, can someone help me? My TypoScript is readable here: http://www.phlogi.net/fresh/t3/tspastebin/showPost/-a60dc368cf/
15:06 maholtz|WORK @sorenmalling: not sure with that, but: 10.file.m.mask = path/to/file.gif
15:07 randomresult anyone knows an extension which makes the table handling easier than the default tables?
15:10 pmk65 sorenmalling: Your mask is not part of the GIFBUILDER object, so you should use "m.mask" and "m.bgImg", not "mask"
15:10 pmk65 randomresult: RTE. :)
15:12 sorenmalling Stupid me, moved the mask part in to the GIFBUILDER object, and then discovered that theres was a typo in the path to the mask file :P
15:14 randomresult pmk65 : rte is not very... lets say ... dunno... not nice
15:15 pmk65 randomresult: The table editor of TinyMCE is pretty good.
15:15 randomresult i found th_exttable
15:15 randomresult seems to be good
15:15 randomresult ill test it now
15:24 censor_ hello!
15:25 censor_ anybody can help me with a special imagemagick problem?
15:25 censor_ image processing tests work, but image processing in the frontend/backend doesn't!!
15:25 censor_ would appreciate an answer... thanks
15:27 just2b dont ask to ask..
15:33 censor_ what can i do if imagemagick image processing tests work, but image processing itself doesnt
15:33 just2b censor_ where does it fail in the FE / BE ?
15:45 censor_ just2b images just are not being resized
15:45 censor_ just2b_ they are displayed, but always in original sizes
15:46 censor_ just2b_ installed the complete package from t3net including YAML
15:55 just2b but resizing works in install tool?
15:59 censor_ yeah
15:59 censor_ but it has a white background instead of a transparent one though
16:00 bluespuke someone has better knowledge of mh_branchenbuch?
16:02 bluespuke i would like to deactivate the link for the category if the category has no entrys :s
16:18 pmk65 censor_: Switch to GraphicMagick if possible. GM is much easier to get working with TYPO3.
16:35 censor_ pmk65_: thanks!!
17:13 tomsdale_ ah blast - I'm always getting logged out of the BE when I click on a sysfolder in the list view. Anyone knows why?
17:14 maholtz did you made an TYPO3 upgrade?
17:14 maholtz perhaps clear browser cache
17:15 tomsdale_ this one is a fresh 4.2.6 installation. It's happening intermittandly. Probably becaue I still have cookies from other webs. But why just the list module.
18:53 tomsdale_ I have problems configuring the xml rss feed for tt_news. It's just empty although I followed the manual. Anyone has some tips?
19:00 louS hi at all
19:00 louS does anyone have probs to include ipayment into tt_products? No prob :D I figured out after some weeks :D Just msg me
19:03 tomsdale_ is ipayment usable louS? It plugs into payment_lib right?
19:03 louS ya
19:03 louS theres a extension, but thats soo impossible to include
19:04 louS i figured out a way how to include it, without "external" payment page
19:04 louS i mean, even the author of the ipayment couldnt help....
19:04 louS of the ipayment extension
19:05 tomsdale_ I've been thinking about using it with the seminars extension to allow online payment for seminars.
19:05 tomsdale_ but it's not well documented and looks a bit abandoned.
19:05 louS the ipayment ext. or seminar?
19:06 tomsdale_ the payment lib
19:06 tomsdale_ which I understand ipayment plugs into.
19:06 louS ah ;D
19:06 louS dont use the ipayment ext. :)
19:07 tomsdale_ I think ipayment is german only anyway.;
19:07 tomsdale_ I've been planning on using paypal.
19:07 louS ya but the negative side on paypal is, the user needs an paypal account
19:08 louS with ipayment, he just need a cc or bankaccount is also possible and int. users can also pay
19:08 tomsdale_ apparently there is also a paypal gateway service but you have to pay a monthly fee.
19:08 louS if im not mistaken you have to pay ipayment monthly too
19:08 louS and also per transaction
19:09 tomsdale_ hm, doesn't sound too bad actually. But I'm in Canada, not too sure about conversion rates.
19:09 tomsdale_ http://www.ipaymentinc.com/ that's them right?
19:09 louS wait i will take a look on the ipayment faq :D
19:09 louS nope
19:10 louS ipayment.de
19:10 tomsdale_ ok
19:10 louS monthly 30 euro :D
19:12 tomsdale_ yep - and all in German :-) paypal is also CAD 30 a month which is a little cheaper.
19:13 louS ye for you (english) paypal would be the better way
19:13 tomsdale_ I do read german but I woudl have a hard time explaining the client why we are using a German provider...
19:13 tomsdale_ so did you work with payment_lib directly when integrating your ipayment solution?
19:13 louS ah so its not directly for you?
19:14 louS yep i did
19:14 tomsdale_ No, I have nothing worth selling online :-)
19:14 louS haha :D
19:14 tomsdale_ did you get by ok - As I said I had the impression it's a bit abandoned
19:15 tomsdale_ I'm already in contact with Oliver Klee who wrote Seminars who is thinking about integrating the payment_lib into his extension.
19:15 louS honestly, it was hard
19:15 tomsdale_ and documentation is sparse from what I saw.
19:16 louS i bought just the book of tt_products just for this ipayment extension
19:16 louS but it doesnt help a bit
19:16 louS so i did it on my own way
19:16 tomsdale_ Yes - I wanted to buy that too. But I think we have to tackle paymentlib from two sides
19:17 louS in the book you can read how to include ipayment on an external form, but that was not how i wanted it :D
19:17 tomsdale_ integrate in the booking system of seminars and into the paypal gateway. For the paypal gateway I think there is already an extension.
19:17 louS ye there is
19:17 tomsdale_ Nop, I also want it nicely integrated in my website.
19:17 louS ya, now it is nicely integrated :D
19:17 tomsdale_ do you have an example already online?
19:18 louS sure
19:18 louS one sec
19:18 louS you can read german?
19:18 tomsdale_ yes, I'm originally german
19:22 tomsdale_ I visited the t3con09 in dallas and heard a lot about extbase Domain Driven Design and v. 5. I think a payment gateway would be perfect for this type of application
19:22 louS tomsdale_ you read my query?
19:27 [Norrin] Hi.
19:31 [Norrin] I'm looking for a way to integrate/publish our documentation files written in docbook format in the intranet using typo3. Any experience to get me on the right track?
19:34 [Norrin] Is it possible at all?
19:38 [Norrin] Hmmm, seems that nobody can help?
19:39 void [Norrin]: hm.. flow3 documentation is written in docbook format
19:39 [Norrin] I've heard of it.
19:40 void so, they probably have an extension or something to render a docbook into html
19:40 [Norrin] Who could I talk to?
19:41 void i'd seach in flow3 svn repo
19:42 [Norrin] Isn't the documentation for typo3 extensions done in docbook too?
19:42 void no, it is done in openoffice (version 1) format, .sxw
19:43 void http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/ter_doc_docbook/current/
19:43 void this extension converts from sxw to docbook...
19:44 void I think you may look at https://svn.typo3.org/FLOW3/Packages/DocBookXSLNS/trunk/Resources/XSL/
19:44 void seems like a collection of XSL stylesheets for processing docbook
19:45 [Norrin] I get an security error opening that url
19:46 void yeah, that is because of self-signatured certificate
19:47 [Norrin] looks like the docbook xsl stylesheets to me
19:50 void [Norrin]: yeah. maybe you can write a simple extension which uses this stylesheets to convert your docbooks documents into html?
19:52 [Norrin] void: That would be the way I would do it, if only I would have the knowledge ... :o/
21:12 TaucherMK [Norrin]: That depends on your needs, if you just want to publish the files in their native format just use an extension which handles a "download area"
21:15 [Norrin] TaucherMK: I would like Typo3 to display the documentation in html, processed from the given docbook files.
21:15 TaucherMK i think there are binaries out there which can process the docbook files into html
21:17 [Norrin] I was just googling a php based toolchain to process docbook files into html, but I'm missing the bit how I could integrate it into typo3
21:19 TaucherMK extensions
21:20 TaucherMK there are extensions which take pdfs and docs and create content elements from it
21:22 [Norrin] So I should look for an extension that pulls the processed html files to create content elements from it? Did I understand you right?
21:23 [Norrin] Any ideas for that?
21:24 [Norrin] I was reading on the internet of an extension called ter_doc_html, but I couldn't find it in the TER.
21:27 TaucherMK [Norrin]: The idea is an extension which asks for a docbook file and creates a new content element from this
21:31 [Norrin] TaucherMK: That would mean, that the extension actually triggers the toolchain to process the xml files writing the output/new content elements to the database, right?
21:33 TaucherMK some kind of this way
21:35 [Norrin] Ok, as far as I know there is no extension, that fullfills this task. That's the reason why I came here. I was hoping, that somebody here knows an extension.
21:36 [Norrin] ... or has experience with solving this problem. ;o)
21:37 TaucherMK there was an extension which did this with pdfs, docs and so on (with much features around, like a ftp server), you can try to find this extension and the author, ask him to add the docbook format and (when it isn't in TER), if you can use his extension
21:44 [Norrin] hmm, I'll try searching for it. Thanks a lot for your patience and trying to help me find a solution.

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