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07:34 uraan Hi every one
07:35 uraan I am using the user track api and it is working very well except one functionality when i want to get the active users then it give me not records even i suddenly login and logout by using one id at the front end
07:36 uraan Can anybody tell me how to use its active user function?
08:05 divzilla good morning..
08:05 divzilla http://myskiathos.net/rs/img/T3_Content_Element_Problem.gif
08:06 divzilla what's the easiest way to do that in typo3
08:06 divzilla I could solve 90% of my wite with standard elements but not this...
08:06 divzilla if possible no news etc. extensions
08:08 divzilla wite=site
08:12 MarkusH good morning
08:13 divzilla hi
08:13 divzilla MarkusH: http://myskiathos.net/rs/img/T3_Content_Element_Problem.gif
08:13 divzilla any idea how to do that in typo3 (easy way)
08:13 divzilla no templavoila or extensions
08:14 MarkusH maybe, but i started using typo3 two weeks ago ;-)
08:15 MarkusH instead of {{....}} use ###MARKER_NEWS### or ###MARKER_HEADER###
08:15 divzilla and it is possible for many items/block
08:16 divzilla ?
08:16 divzilla or only once per page
08:16 MarkusH oh, don't know
08:16 MarkusH sorry
08:17 divzilla hmm.. ok, because I know the marker stuff, but not how to make a repeatable list
08:17 MarkusH http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/tutorials/doc_tut_templselect/0.1.0/view/
08:17 divzilla I read all that stuff
08:17 MarkusH try the tt_news plugin and modify the template-file ;-)
08:18 divzilla argh.. that all overkill
08:18 divzilla it's so simple wat I want
08:19 divzilla typo3 has 30MB already on disk...
08:19 divzilla can't be so difficult with the standard install
08:20 divzilla or maybe in PHP?
08:20 MarkusH that should be possible
08:22 MarkusH by reaseon that typoscript is neither a scripting-language nor an programming-language but only a configuration-interpretation you cannot run loops, i think
08:23 divzilla no... writing the menu was weird enough
08:23 divzilla please no more
08:35 divzilla if I don't find anything soon... I will have to try a DOM/javascript hack meanwhile heh. I want to release today.. :)
08:36 MarkusH divzilla: good luck
08:36 divzilla heh.. thanks
08:37 MarkusH divzilla: let me see if you find a solution, please ;-)
08:37 divzilla now the solution is: HTML Element
08:37 divzilla works for me, but not for my client
08:46 ndee hey there, what do you guys use if you need to create a PDF from a normal website?
08:51 divzilla like printing a website?
08:55 MarkusH ndee: which operation system?
08:55 ndee MarkusH: we're using Linux.
08:55 MarkusH k, gnome or kde
08:56 ndee ah sorry, I meant: I have a webpage in TYPO3 or some data in general and I want to create a PDF on the fly with PHP.
08:57 MarkusH oh
08:57 Bluespuke hello frien,ds
08:57 MarkusH there is a pdf-lib integrated in php
08:57 MarkusH http://php.net/manual/en/book.pdf.php
08:59 divzilla in PHP I use http://www.fpdf.org/
09:02 ndee divzilla: is it complicated to use? is it stable?
09:02 divzilla easy, no problems so far, quite fast
09:03 ndee ok, I will look into that. Thanks!
09:10 pmk65 good morning.
09:10 Bluespuke hi pmk65
09:15 MarkusH hi
09:16 sorenmalling Good morning
09:31 MyKill good morning
10:11 maholtz|WORK morning
10:17 holdesign hello... seems that someone hacked my site.. TYPO3 4.1.6 .. after the </body> tag I have some links in a display:none div... ! Don't know where this is coming from :-(
10:27 zilenCe hey guys. I'm using tt_news on a page but when I enable the template for it the menu disappears in the subpages - can anyone please help? The only settings are pid_list, singlePid and backPid
10:27 maholtz|WORK @holddesign: http://typo3.org/teams/security/security-bulletins/typo3-sa-2009-002/
10:28 maholtz|WORK @holddesign: can it be, that your install tool was not disabled?
10:29 holdesign @maholtz: Install Tool was disabled :-(
10:31 FloLeBlanc hi all, fyi: security warnings in: commerce, t3m, air_lexicon, ast_addresszipsearch, car, event_registr, SBbanner, t3m_affiliate, vjchat
10:31 maholtz|WORK @holdesign: you should talk to your hoster, especially if you are on an shared hosting, perhaps someone hacks something different, check your logfiles
10:33 FloLeBlanc hi maholtz
10:33 maholtz|WORK hi FloLeBlanc:)
10:37 holdesign @maholtz: thanks for the hint.. I'll trey
12:08 uraan Can anybody tell me why this error "no news_id given " occur when i use single view in the tt_news extension and what is its solution?
12:09 uraan Anybody knows????
12:09 MarkusH you have to select a newsid via typoscript or url
12:11 MarkusH http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/extension-manuals/tt_news/2.5.2/view/1/7/#id3857717
12:12 uraan MarkusH: I did not give it i am only select the starting point in the news content
12:12 MarkusH and look for Display Settings for  SINGLE,LIST and LATEST
12:13 MarkusH your ts > http://howflow.com/p
12:13 uraan MarkusH:In List and Latest its work well
12:21 MarkusH have you paste it
12:27 uraan MarkusH: page > http://howflow.com/p
12:27 uraan I have paste it like it
12:27 uraan where page is the object of the Page
12:28 MarkusH the link?
12:31 uraan http://localhost/training/index.php?id=19&no_cache=1&news_id=1
12:32 uraan MarkusH if i add the news_id in the link by myself then is it worked or not
12:33 uraan Okey MarkusH can u refer me any tutorial in which singleveiw is described with an example
12:46 maholtz|WORK @uraan: why dont you read the tt_news manual? isnt there enough explained?
12:47 uraan Thanx i am reading it now
12:49 MarkusH where are the differences between "normal" templates and "extension templates" ?
12:50 MarkusH and is the a possibility to change a normal templ. to an ext. templ or vice versa
12:51 maholtz|WORK you have typoscript or html templates
12:52 MarkusH typoscript
12:52 MarkusH in the BE
12:52 MarkusH template
12:52 maholtz|WORK extension templates are templates which only extending the website
12:53 maholtz|WORK the "normal" template is the main-template with "rootlevel" and "clear constants or setup" set
12:53 MarkusH ok, that has nothing to do with extensions oder plugins i install
12:53 MarkusH ok
12:53 maholtz|WORK well. an extension comes with one or more typoscript templates
12:54 maholtz|WORK such an template you can select and insert it into your main or an extension template
12:54 MarkusH but is there a way change a normal templ. to an ext. templ or vice versa
12:54 maholtz|WORK do you know the modul "template" - there is a template analyzer and an object browser
12:54 MarkusH yea
12:55 maholtz|WORK well, _imho_ there is no difference between "normal templ" and an "ext templ" beside the rootlevel-checkbox
12:55 MarkusH ok
12:56 MarkusH thank you
12:56 maholtz|WORK well, to be clear: technical there is no difference
12:56 maholtz|WORK np
12:58 Danwe hi
12:58 MarkusH hi
12:59 Danwe I have a question about workspaces. Whats the difference between "release" and "publish" ??
12:59 Danwe I "released" almost everytrhing from my draft workspace and now it's gone...
12:59 Danwe I can only restory it with the "versioning" feature but only for each single page
13:03 hal2050 hello irc
13:03 MarkusH hello hal2050
13:03 MarkusH Danwe: /me would like to help you, but i don't know
13:04 hal2050 hi MarkusH
13:04 Danwe thank you Markus :)
13:04 Danwe I already asked in a forum but it seems like there also knows noone about it.
13:09 hal2050 i'm a templavoila beginner. i just mapped two divs as a test, implemented a suckerfish menu and everything seems to run fine. but how could i append further mappings to an existing tempavoila template now? if i'm looking into the 'general storage' folder i'm able to enter the 'update mapping' mode. but there is no possibility to add further fields. do i have to start from the beginning again? can't imagine that...
13:10 hal2050 i guess there has to be an option i possibly overlooked!?
13:19 Golgata hi. im using a21glossary, and the rte-links in definitions are still <link uid> instead of <a href="etc"> in the page output, so they dont work... anyone got an idea?
13:19 sorenmalling hal2050: Click "Update DS/TO" after you clicked "Update Mapping" and you'll be able to add more mapping
13:20 pmk65 Golgata: parse the RTE output throught lib.parseFunc_RTE, then the links will be correct.
13:21 hal2050 sorenmalling: would i find it in the information or mapping tab?
13:21 Golgata thanks... how will i do this? ;)
13:21 hal2050 only the information tab 'shows modify ds/to'
13:22 sorenmalling hal2050: the information tab
13:22 hal2050 ah fine, thx a lot sorenmalling :)
13:22 Golgata pmk65: do i have to change sth in the extensions .php-files?
13:22 sorenmalling np :)
13:23 hal2050 typo3 is becoming my friend, slowly but steady ^^
13:24 maholtz|WORK @Danwe: where did you find "release"?
13:24 maholtz|WORK which TYPO3 version do you use?
13:26 pmk65 Golgata> depend on the ext setup. If there's a TS setup, you can usually do it from TS
13:26 pmk65 find the Ts part that outputs the RTE data, and add an extra line with parseFunc < lib.parseFunc_RTE
13:28 Golgata pmk65: think i found it. i'll try... thx so far ;)
13:29 fuchur guten morgen
13:29 fuchur args
13:29 fuchur good mornin
13:30 Golgata pmk65: works :) awesome!
13:32 MyKill .
13:49 Bluespuke someone is going to the typo3camp in munich?
13:51 fuchur when?
13:58 Solembum and once more i'm connected twice :(
14:12 sorenmalling fuchur: http://www.typo3camp-munich.de/
14:12 sorenmalling I'm not going just wanted to share the link :)
14:12 fuchur mh, munich is about 1k km away :)
14:13 sorenmalling Hmm, isn't it ironac that the site not build in TYPO3?
14:13 sorenmalling ironac = ironic :)
14:14 fuchur i don't think so
14:14 fuchur ;)
14:14 fuchur you don't have to build everything in T3
14:15 fuchur my daily job is T3 but my page is built on wordpress :)
14:15 maholtz|WORK its about religion, so you have to;)
14:15 fuchur am I cheating?
14:15 fuchur i don't think so :D
14:15 fuchur for blogs wordpress just is the better software ... just copy, click n blog ^^
14:15 maholtz|WORK someone here is going to munich?
14:16 fuchur i'm thinking about ...
14:18 fuchur have to see if someone else from s.-h. is goin
14:18 fuchur don't want to go the 2.000 km alone :)
14:20 fuchur don't want to go alone anyways :D
14:30 maholtz|WORK @fuchur: where is "s.-h."?
14:30 fuchur schleswig holstein
14:31 maholtz|WORK ah, ok, 1000 per way...
14:31 fuchur jep
14:31 fuchur i missed hamburg :-(
14:31 MarkusH fuchur: why?
14:31 fuchur don't know ... just didn't happen
14:31 fuchur :-D
14:32 fuchur got a son end of march and was too busy
14:34 pmk65 Which TYPO3 Glossary ext is the best? Any suggestions?
14:37 MarkusH is there a possibility tu resubstitude markers
14:39 MarkusH e.g. "This is a ###MARK1###" and substitute ###MARK1### with "###STATE### text" and then ###STATE### with something?
14:43 Golgata pmk65: atm i am working with a21glossary, its quite nice. but sg_glossary is nice, too... depends on what you need exactly. i yet worked with both of them...
14:45 pmk65 Golgata: thanks. I'll try those 2.
15:14 cdngfrog maholtz|WORK: I'm going to munich... in fact, I am already there!
15:15 maholtz|WORK ok, i would do so too if it would be nearby
15:16 fuchur maholtz|WORK: where are you from?
15:17 cdngfrog heh, I work with one of the organizers
15:18 elmargol Hi I'm wondering if there is a way to make backups of my template scripts?
15:19 elmargol or do I have to backup the database for this?
15:20 maholtz|WORK @fuchur: münster
15:20 maholtz|WORK (westfalen)
15:20 maholtz|WORK ca 700 km
15:21 fuchur ah i see
15:21 fuchur wondering when the next camp nearby happens
15:21 fuchur or if i have to go to munich :)
15:33 sebar Hi everybody
15:35 sebar Can someone please indicate me if it is posible in Typo3 to have urls like this: http://www.example.com/en/theFolder/thePage.html? The "en" stands for the language that has to be used.
15:37 sebar so if I want to switch language to french for example the URL will look like this: http://www.example.com/fr/theFolder/thePage.html
15:38 pmk65 sebar: Install and configure RealURL or CoolUri. Then you'll get url's like that.
15:39 sebar thanks
15:46 sebar I have another question if I use RealURL do I need tu duplicate each page for each language or can I configure the same page in all the needed languages?
15:47 sebar I've found a tutorial on how to setup multilingual sites http://typo3.org/1220.0.html
15:47 sebar I would like to use the second method
15:49 JohPie with RealURL you can use the second method
15:51 sebar yes, very fine. Thanks a lot
16:18 FloLeBlanc does anyone by chance know a way to check well formedness of xml documents with php4?
16:19 hal2050_ is there a way to show only a certain part of the site in the menu? e.g. in the menu i'd like to see site 'contact' and its subsites only.
16:20 MarkusH http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/references/doc_core_tsref/4.1.0/view/8/11/
16:22 fuchur when developing extensions do you use SVN?
16:22 hal2050_ thanks MarkusH, this should help
16:22 MarkusH hal2050_: think so ;-)
16:23 hal2050_ :)
16:23 pmk65 FloLeBlanc: run it through the PHP4 DOM XML object. all malformed XML will be discarded.
16:24 pmk65 http://us2.php.net/manual/en/book.dom.php
16:26 pmk65 An example of parsing data using the DOMDocument object of PHP, can be found in my HTMLCrop extension. http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/pmkhtmlcrop/current/
16:29 MarkusH can somebody explain why plugin.tt_news.templateFile = fileadmin/template/default/tt_news_list.html in a setup-field of a template does not load the template-file
16:29 MarkusH the file exists
16:30 FloLeBlanc thank you very much pmk65
16:30 MarkusH when changing these settings in the plugin-configuration in the pagecontent there is no output.
16:40 elmargol is there a way to have slightbox for my template images? or do I have to manually code this?
16:41 elmargol I'm using the css_styled_contend extension
16:56 pmk65 elmargol: There's no Slightbox ext, but there's a ton of other lightbox clones on TER.
17:03 Bluespuke bye
17:03 Bluespuke c u tomorrow
17:17 fndr hello. Im trying to follow the futuristic template building tutorial, but Im stuck at installing the extension doc_tut_ftb1
17:17 fndr because it seems as if it does not exist?
17:19 fndr it contains examples used in the tutorial
17:19 fndr would you suggest me to read some other tutorial on making templates?
18:04 ManDay Hi guys
18:04 ManDay Content element "Text and picture", in "Media" I got two fields for pictures, why two?
18:24 elmargol Can I display 2 page ids at once?
18:24 elmargol I'd like to have 1 page as my header... can I do this?
18:28 ManDay Content element "Text and picture", in "Media" I got two fields for pictures, why two?
18:29 hal2050_ i created a menu that shows a certain part of the site tree including certain subsites. how could i append a css class the first level? here is what i have been doing so far: http://pastebin.com/d63576a4c
18:31 hal2050_ so basically i'd like to end with '<li><h3 class="blah"></h3></li> for the first level
18:32 hal2050_ atm the first level is wrapped into a <li>
18:38 elmargol if I have page = PAGE and page.10 = foobar what does 10 stand for?
18:41 ManDay for an element called 10
18:41 ManDay which is displayed on your page
18:44 elmargol I'm wondering if http://wiki.typo3.org/index.php/TypoScript_Header_Image (first example) is the right way to ad the same image to every page?
19:16 fuchur just2b: you are an extension developer aren't you ... do you know where german developers meet? mailinglist, newsgroup, forum?
19:16 fuchur everywhere i looked there was only very little activity
19:16 just2b all of that
19:16 just2b the most typo3 users are german speaking
19:16 just2b quantity speaking ;)
19:17 just2b and of course we meet in person too
19:17 fuchur mh, are there special events for developers or are the common events (t3:con, barcamp) good choices?
19:18 fuchur i visited the local usergroup twice but there are not much devs either
19:18 fuchur missed T3:DD :(
19:18 just2b developers best choise is t3dd and for socialising > t3board
19:18 fuchur even it was just km from me away ... so stupid
19:18 just2b never been to a barcamp but are good too .. t3con is too much business for me
19:19 just2b there are also many groups all over the country, just search for the next Usergroup
19:19 fuchur mh ... business would not be that bad for I make my living with extension developement :D
19:19 fuchur mh, as mentioned in my local UG there are not that much developers :)
19:20 just2b ah too bad .. so you need to travel a bit ;)
19:20 fuchur mh :-) if you've never been to a barcamp are you goin to visit T3camp Munich?
19:20 just2b yeah i guess so
19:21 just2b not too far
19:21 just2b when is it again?
19:21 fuchur yeah remembered you live somewhere over there :D
19:21 fuchur 08 - 10 oct i think
19:21 just2b yeah i could make that
19:21 fuchur I'm thinkin about ... it's a thousand kilometeres :(
19:21 just2b its more than thousand to hamburg for me
19:21 fuchur so would be alot of time and effort to go there ...
19:21 just2b train in night = no problem
19:22 fuchur but I missed hamburg and don't know when the next is gonna happen
19:22 just2b always around same time
19:22 just2b hamburg munich are just 800km ;)
19:23 fuchur yep there are even cheap tickets left for over-night ... travelling the nights to friday and monday is just 65,- each
19:23 fuchur yeah it's 200 me hamburg :)
19:23 just2b ah ok ^^
19:23 fuchur livin in the very very north
19:24 just2b but if it is not just for fun, company can still pay for it , even your own, so less taxes ..
19:24 fuchur yeah but even if tax reduced the company has to pay :)
19:25 just2b right but it is very cool, especially getting and feeling the spirit
19:25 fuchur mh ... saw it's not that much ... 150 for travelling, 100 for accomodation, 30 for camp and food
19:25 just2b best is still t3board ;)
19:25 fuchur and another 100 for pocketmoney ...
19:25 fuchur yeah ... i will avoid t3board :D
19:25 fuchur I'm ashamed everyone will see I can neither code nor board
19:25 fuchur *hrhr*
19:25 just2b not a problem there
19:26 just2b as long as you are able to drink beer ^^
19:26 fuchur mh ... I will stick to Pernod
19:26 fuchur I'm not that much of a drinker
19:26 fuchur people love that ... because I'm allways the last person able to drive :D
19:27 just2b ok switch to "as long as you are able to have fun and are interersted in TYPO§
19:27 just2b 3
19:27 fuchur next year I will definetly visit T3DD
19:28 fuchur this was too bad ... on UG meeting they all talked about and there were no tickets left ... i recognized too late
19:28 just2b yeah but 1 week before usually you get some again
19:29 fuchur hrhr
19:32 ManDay Content element "Text and picture", in "Media" I got two fields for pictures, why two?
19:32 just2b got DAM installed?
19:32 fuchur ok I have to go to the china buffette :) probably see you in Munich :)
19:32 just2b moizeit ;)
19:33 fuchur gudden hunger?
19:33 just2b ;)
19:33 fuchur i don't understand bavarian :D good this is english ...
19:33 just2b not a german guy ^^
19:33 just2b austria please ^^
19:33 fuchur bavarians are not german either :p
19:34 just2b ^^
19:40 Golgata hi. im using a21glossary and am not able to find a way to link to glossary entries in the description of an other glossary item... i know how this link has to look (index.php?id=lex&tx_a21glossary[uid]=21&tx_a21glossary[back]=6&cHash=9f07950067 - like that), but i cant generate such a link...
20:51 hal2050_ hm i just don't get it up&running. so is it generally possible to generate the following html markup with ts? -> http://pastebin.com/d1855d326
20:51 hal2050_ what i've done so far: http://pastebin.com/d63576a4c
20:52 Golgata why NO.doNotLinkIt = 1 ?
20:52 hal2050_ this gives me exactly the above markup, but not the <h3> tag. the problem is that i don't get it how to append the <h3> tag within the <li> tag
20:52 just2b put the 1st ul wrap to the HMENU and include the title already there
20:52 Golgata oh, ok
20:53 hal2050_ Golgata: well i just don't want the first level to be linked
20:54 hal2050_ i'm gonna try what you've just told me just2b
20:54 just2b yes ;)
20:54 just2b or use a spacer page and activiate it with SPC = 1
20:55 hal2050_ hm a spacer page? some kind of dummy?
20:55 just2b yes
20:55 hal2050_ ok
20:55 hal2050_ brb, telephone ringing
20:56 just2b would be better if you are multiingual and if this happens more often
21:00 Denyerec hey just2b
21:01 Denyerec Not seen you in here for a while.
21:01 hal2050_ re
21:02 hal2050_ just2b: you mean your solution wouldn't let me run into any trouble if the site is a multilingual one?
21:02 just2b spacer pages > no problem
21:03 just2b cause you dont need to change thins in ts every time and are able to set the title as a normal page
21:18 hal2050_ just2b: ok, i put the first <ul> to the HMENU section, no problem so far. but what do i have to do to append <h3> to the first level? i guess i'm fiddling around too long already. maybe i should take a break :D
21:22 just2b search for the spacer page .. that would also be fine to keep ul in the tmenu
21:25 fuchur just2b: any extension you allways missed, allways wanted to build but somehow didn't?
21:25 fuchur :-)
21:25 fuchur I want to contribute something but somehow don't know how
21:30 just2b yeah i am missing some features to workspaces ;)
21:31 just2b but if you want to contribute, just look at wouldbenice.org and you will find plenty to do
21:31 fuchur :p
21:32 just2b i am serious
21:32 fuchur nice url
21:32 just2b choose the project you like most and if you dont have a specific one, just use the TYPO3 core and fix bugs
21:32 fuchur i'm too stupid to find bugs to work on :( if i filter bugs for "unsolved" most of the times it already has a patch or "step by step" in the bug itself
21:33 ManDay Anyone, why do I have two multiselect fields for a picture in the content element "Text and picture"?
21:33 just2b ManDay > got dam installed?
21:33 ManDay yes
21:34 just2b so go to EM > dam > choose not to show original field
21:34 ManDay thanks mate
21:34 ManDay what would happen if I chose pictures in both of the fields?
21:34 just2b fuchur > just go the view issues and choose all the ones with no patch to it
21:34 just2b or go to the core list and test patches by giving a +1 on testing
21:34 just2b only the one of dam will be shown
21:35 ManDay just2b, where exactly would I find this option in the EM?
21:35 just2b klick on the dam ext'S title
21:36 just2b manday or just write better manuals if you are mssing something
21:36 ManDay just2b, well, of course I clicked the ext's title already
21:36 just2b ups fuchur
21:36 ManDay but there is no such option
21:37 just2b ah sorry dam_ttcontent
21:37 ManDay such an extension i dont have
21:37 fuchur just2b: i thought only core devs are allowed to give +1
21:37 ManDay @ just2b
21:38 ManDay sorry
21:38 ManDay i do
21:38 ManDay thanks pal
21:39 ManDay worked just fine
21:39 just2b fuchur no that is wrong, anyone can test but it still needs 2 core devs
21:39 just2b +1
21:39 fuchur ah ok
21:39 just2b manday hehe ;)
21:40 fuchur ok, i would love to get involved in developing/testing
21:40 just2b yeah so just subscribte to the core list, fetch the current trunk version and the rfc which lack some attention
21:41 ManDay rfc of what?
21:41 fuchur rfc?
21:41 just2b ready for comments
21:42 just2b all the messages in core lists are about patches which should go in the next versions
21:42 just2b so you send a RFC with your proposal
21:42 just2b and others need to vote
21:43 fuchur are you core dev?
21:43 just2b no
21:43 just2b but sending patches ;)
21:44 fuchur why not? :)
21:44 just2b no need to
21:46 fuchur mh
22:16 fuchur just2b: ok no doubt the first things i will send to the core list will be blamed :D
22:17 fuchur some things have to go to bugtracker, some to dev list some to HCI list
22:17 fuchur i think i have to start reading all this stuff again :D
22:20 fuchur just2b: a patch does not need +2 from core devs anymore :) +1 core dev and +1 normal is enough
22:38 hal2050_ yeah, i got it just2b, see http://pastebin.com/d1263855e
22:39 just2b fuchur mea culpa
22:41 fuchur :-) workflow discription reads as they are more lookin for testers then for patchers :)
22:41 hal2050_ unbelieveable how much time one can spend on some 'problems '
22:42 fuchur this is exactly what my customers say from time to time :D
22:42 hal2050_ ^^
22:42 hal2050_ patience is the key :D
22:43 just2b knowledge is the key
22:44 hal2050 of course...but as a beginner i'm glad to be patient ;)
22:45 fuchur just2b: any good literature for extension dev?
22:45 fuchur i read "TYPO3 4.0 Handbuch für Entwickler"
22:45 fuchur but it's not that good
22:46 fuchur too much setup and config and only basics of developing
22:46 hal2050 just2b: what do you think of the way i solved the little puzzle?
22:46 just2b dmitris book
22:46 just2b hal2050 i would have used spacer pages or the h3 inside the ul wrap
22:47 hal2050 ok, but aside from that?
22:48 just2b complete 1st level is not linked, so i dont understand the sense of that ..
22:49 fuchur just2b: some kind of a keyword or a title? :D
22:51 just2b dmitry
22:51 just2b dimitri sry
22:52 just2b http://www.amazon.de/Typo3-Extension-Development-Dmitry-Dulepov/dp/1847192122
22:52 hal2050 that's some kind of special usercase on this site, as the first level sites do not contain any important information for the visitor if he would use the quicknavigation at the bottom. so this menu represents some kind of ''sitemap' at the bottom
22:53 fuchur thanks
22:53 fuchur it's in english
22:53 fuchur :-p
22:53 fuchur i can not read ...
22:54 just2b what you need?
22:56 fuchur no it's ok ... i'll read dimitries book
22:56 fuchur there are several german ones but I don't want to get disappointed again :)
22:58 just2b i think there is a translated version too
22:59 just2b but it is not difficult to read
22:59 fuchur mh, i think this one: http://www.amazon.de/TYPO3-Extensions-entwickeln-Entwicklerleitfaden-Extensions-TYPO3-API/dp/3827328071
23:03 fuchur i will get it and chech this out :D
23:04 just2b good ;)

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