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00:38 greenGrass hallo
00:42 greenGrass hallo echo...
00:43 greenGrass hm thats creepy .... chat don´s works ..
00:43 greenGrass mhmh
00:43 greenGrass test
00:44 greenGrass test
00:44 greenGrass ah
00:44 greenGrass hi
03:11 ae0000 Hello - does typo3 keep tt_content revisions?
03:11 ae0000 ie. if someone edits a page, is the old version saved?
05:18 ries ae0000: Yes this is happening
05:18 ries They are not revisions though...
05:18 ries it's mor eliek a log that can be reverted
05:47 ae0000 so the log contains the previous info?
06:02 ries ae0000: yes sir
06:02 ries and in the BE you can even see teh changes and go back
06:03 ae0000 ah ok
06:03 ae0000 i just had a look in the log table and it didn't seem to have all the data... but i will investigate further - thanks
06:41 ries ae0000: it contains a diff
06:42 ae0000 ries: Thanks - I'll look closer :)
06:42 ries ae0000: but.. the BE of typo3 allows you to manipulate with it...
06:43 ae0000 ah ok..
06:44 ae0000 the BE said something along the lines of "you cannot see the data change for this undo" for a log entry that was two versions old. But if its a diff that makes perfect sense now.
06:49 ries ae0000: I don't know the exact rules behind the diffs myself... best to ask that on typo3-dev or typo3-english
06:50 ae0000 ries: yeah.
08:15 ham_ hi,everybody
08:15 ham_ i face a problem
08:16 ham_ my boss ask me to use phpgacl in typo3 to control the access
08:16 ham_ but none of extensions refers to phpgacl
08:56 ham_ my boss ask me to use phpgacl in typo3 to control the access
09:15 beli moin
09:31 sebar Hi I have made a dummy site with the TemplaVoila configuration wizard. How can I customize the default template in order to setup new maping regions, change the exisiting ones,etc...?
10:07 maholtz|WORK morning
10:08 maholtz|WORK if i use TemplaVoila and the <beLayout> Tag, i can only define where elements are shown where i can insert records, but not sinlge text fields f.e. is there a way to define <beLayout> for single text fields too?
10:11 jbaptiste_j greetings
11:13 HardPhuck hey
11:14 HardPhuck can typo3 mailform use smtp instead of sendmail
11:19 jbaptiste_j HardPhuck
11:19 jbaptiste_j I had this problem
11:19 jbaptiste_j we soved it using nullmailer
11:19 jbaptiste_j a tool that takes the PHP mail() function and directs it to whatever you want (smtp in our case)
11:22 HardPhuck is it configurable? i host like 50 sites, and i want that function only for one
11:26 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: there is an extension pear-sendmail (sth like that) which is a alternative solution. It uses smtp connection by xclassing the htmlmail. it does not replace direct mail() calls
11:31 HardPhuck pear sendmail as in pear extension not typo3 ext?
11:34 HardPhuck my biggest concern is that other websites' mail won't work
11:37 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: i am using that pear sendmail solution (that extension)
11:37 maholtz|WORK it works f.e. with powermail
11:39 HardPhuck aha i was hoping i'll avoid installing more extensions for typo3
11:43 funkytown Why is this Typoscript "not working", meaning, "myFunction" is not executed -lib.breadcrumb = USER \n lib.breadcrumb.userFunc = userBreadcrumb->myFunction? I included the lib, the TSobject and everything else.
11:44 maholtz|WORK includeLibs.something = fileadmin/userBreadcrumb.php ?
11:45 maholtz|WORK perhaps post the code via pastebin
11:45 maholtz|WORK try to debug: make an echo in your php file so you can see, if it gets included
11:58 Provito what's the verdict on lib/div here
11:58 Provito I've been using it for some new extensions and I like it, although follow the code not the docs
11:58 Provito the iterator functionality take a little to get used to as I was finding that the printAs methods were not available in the objects
11:59 Provito also with mysql 5.1 I'm using the extractpath functionality to get some great results with FCE elements
12:05 funkytown_ maholtz|WORK, The file gets included. When I die/echo something outside the class {} I see the output. But inside the called function it outputs basically nothing.
12:07 maholtz|WORK so, for testing use USER_INT instead USER and paste your code in pastebin (see topic)
12:07 maholtz|WORK btw: bbl
12:07 sebar Hi everybody
12:08 sebar How can I change the page order?
12:08 funkytown_ maholtz|WORK, There is no code inside the function yet. besides some echo/die stuff to see if it works. USER_INT isn't working for me, too.
12:09 MarkusH sebar: you want to output page.20 before page.10 ?
12:10 sebar I have a menu coming from Typoscript and I want to order this menu. At this time the menu is generated from the order in the BE
12:12 sebar In the best case. There is a way to order the elements in the "document-tree" by drag&drop. So the redactors can do it to
12:12 maholtz|WORK @funkytown_ show us your typoscript code
12:13 MarkusH sebar: generate an own menu for each item and put them all together in an COA
12:13 MarkusH temp.menu = COA
12:13 MarkusH temp.menu.10 = HMENU ....
12:14 funkytown_ maholtz|WORK, got is. TS was fine. Didn't know both the class and function name have to start with "user_". Thanks anyway :)
12:14 sebar thanks
12:17 menak hi
12:18 MarkusH menak: hi
12:26 HardPhuck maholtz|WORK: it turns out that mailform can use smtp on it's own
12:37 menak hi
13:33 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: really? how?
13:33 HardPhuck actually i was wrong :)
13:34 maholtz|WORK would have been nice:(
13:34 maholtz|WORK someone knows what "ICE-Standard" is?
13:35 HardPhuck yea it would have been nice...
13:35 HardPhuck tried your pear extension
13:35 HardPhuck not working...
13:35 HardPhuck doesn't support ssl
13:35 maholtz|WORK ah, ok
13:35 HardPhuck or custom ports
13:36 maholtz|WORK but imho you should be able to alter the code?
13:36 HardPhuck so i could send to google's smtp
13:37 HardPhuck working on that one :)
13:46 HardPhuck need a way to test extension if it works
14:03 sebar Hi everybody. I am trying to make two menus with typoscript. I've tried the following script to make the first menu element who should take the elements from "Navigation TL": http://pastebin.com/d3f1bc1a0
14:04 sebar Any ideas what i'm doing wrong?
14:11 MarkusH yes
14:11 MarkusH you don't want the special = directory directive
14:12 sebar okay, what should I use instead?
14:13 MarkusH sebar: http://howflow.com/pastes/1557
14:15 zed_devil hi guys, i have a problem with direct mail categorys. i creat a default language cat and its shown on german frontend, if i creat a localisation it's not shown in the english frontend. But if i creat a cat as english without localisation it's shown. someone knows the prob ?
14:52 sebar Aloha. I have another problem. I'm using TemplaVoila. In the BE under view the pages are displayed as wanted but when I show them in the FE the templaVoila template is not displayed and I have no error messages?!
14:54 sebar Okay, i have found the problem
14:54 sebar There is a error with navigation typoscript
15:26 HardPhuck this bloody sendmail is driving me nuts
15:52 Florian_ hello guys, iam new here
15:52 Florian_ i try to learn a little bit about typo3
15:53 Florian_ i have to load the dummy stbale version and the other thing and upload it on my server and then install right?
15:54 Florian_ are any templates available.. there are so many sites on google but the most ones cost..
15:55 derchill1r hi
15:55 Florian_ hi derchiller
15:56 derchiller i could need some help. i've tried to make a sub-menu with typoscript and it wo, but i want the menue also shown, when i click on an entry in that sub menu. the sub menue contains the sub pages from the main pages. typoscript follows
15:56 derchiller *works
15:57 Florian_ i cant help because iam really new in typo3 just downloaded and want to install it this evening for testing
15:58 derchiller http://pastebin.com/d5bc657c
15:58 Florian_ do you know some free templates?
15:58 derchiller there are not many of them
15:58 Florian_ http://kim-foods.de/ <-- this looks pretty nice
15:58 maholtz|WORK @Florian: f.e. http://templavoila.busynoggin.com/
15:58 derchiller and three ways to build own
15:59 Florian_ is it possible to get one like this or is it hard to build own one which looks like this?
15:59 Florian_ thx for the links
15:59 derchiller templavoila is one
15:59 maholtz|WORK that is not only a template but a whole installation
15:59 maholtz|WORK for testing and trying it is good, but it is not the typicall TYPO3 View
15:59 maholtz|WORK for learning it is not the best thing (IMHO)
16:01 Florian_ maholt you mean that templavoila?
16:01 Florian_ is different like typ3 ?
16:01 Florian_ other code or what especially
16:02 Florian_ i have to create a new website for my fathers company i did one last year with other CMS product called DATA Becker WebToDate
16:02 maholtz|WORK well, it is an TYPO3 extension which creates a different view in the backend
16:02 derchiller typo3 is an extension to build templates, but i may be useful for more (never used)
16:02 Florian_ but this was really shit and the page is shit too ^^
16:02 Florian_ mhh what do you think how i have to start with then?
16:03 Florian_ with that templavoila or the dummy version under downlaod section packages?
16:03 maholtz|WORK well, do you want to learn TYPO3 or do you want have ASAP a running version?
16:03 tf hi@all
16:03 maholtz|WORK if you want ASAP a running version i would suggest the busynoggin thing
16:04 tf is there an imagemagick static version for imagemagick > 6 ?
16:04 tf i only find 4.2.9
16:05 Florian_ i want to build a website so fast i can do, because i travel to australie on oktober and the page should be finish till my leaving, because i cant to so much website work in australie
16:05 Florian_ -e +a
16:05 HardPhuck anyone knows where pear stores it's logs
16:05 HardPhuck can't find it anywhere
16:07 derchiller Florian_: typo3 may not be the fastest way to build your page
16:07 maholtz|WORK @Florian_ and as you says you should build up your fathers website, i suggest there arent special things at. It is probably only content and some forms? so i would suggest the templavoila thing for you. To get it run quickly. And subscribe to the security bulletins: http://typo3.org/teams/security/
16:10 HardPhuck Use busynoggin for faste deployment
16:10 HardPhuck works out of the box
16:10 Florian_ busynoggin mhh thats the templovila right?
16:19 MarkusH hi@all
16:19 MarkusH back again
16:22 derchiller i could need some help. i've tried to make a sub-menu with typoscript and it worked, but i want the menue also shown, when i click on an entry in that sub menu. the sub menue contains the sub pages from the main pages. typoscript follows
16:22 derchiller http://pastebin.com/d5bc657c
16:38 MarkusH derchiller: http://howflow.com/pastes/1557
16:38 MarkusH maybe that's what you want
16:39 derchiller an answer is more than i expected to this moment
16:39 derchiller :)
16:39 MarkusH ;-)
16:44 derchiller does 'temp' work for me?
16:49 derchiller strange results, does not work for me
16:50 derchiller to understand me right: what i've made worked! click on top navi -> second navi displays the sub pages of the clicked page. all i want is that the next click on the submenu does not couse the submenue changes
16:50 derchiller -e
16:51 MarkusH yes, that's ok
16:51 MarkusH temp.vmenu should work for you
16:51 MarkusH you have to set the rootlevel-flag for the template
16:51 derchiller i'm sure it is set
16:53 derchiller am i right and your code has to be between my "page.10.subparts.SECOND_NAV { " and "}"?
16:53 MarkusH pase you whole ts
16:54 derchiller old, changed?
16:57 derchiller http://pastebin.com/d286e0ccd
16:58 derchiller the old
16:58 derchiller working
17:02 MarkusH http://pastebin.ca/1541640
17:02 MarkusH but you have to erase the lines 21-24,
17:06 MarkusH derchiller: you read my link?
17:06 derchiller done. and pls excuse me, but links wont work, so i am unable to test further. and where is the replace of NAV_FIRST and NAV_SECOND ?
17:07 derchiller dont get it
17:07 derchiller with lines erased and cache erased
17:07 MarkusH oh, yea, there is only one menu now
17:08 derchiller i see both, but no link is clickable
17:08 MarkusH like http://www.markusholtermann.eu/typo3
17:08 derchiller oO
17:09 derchiller still dont get it
17:09 MarkusH which browser do you use
17:09 derchiller firefox
17:09 derchiller your site is working, mine does not work
17:11 derchiller any further ideas?
17:11 MarkusH no, sry
17:11 MarkusH do you have a public link
17:12 derchiller of the site i am working on?
17:14 MarkusH yes
17:14 MarkusH or paste the html-output
17:14 derchiller what do u prefer?
17:15 derchiller http://kochstudio.chillnet.org
17:16 derchiller http://pastebin.com/d20d1e567
17:16 MarkusH first is good
17:16 derchiller same problems with the links?
17:16 MarkusH seems so
17:19 MarkusH which subpart did you replace with temp.vmenu
17:19 derchiller hoeh. i replaced the whole typoscript record with your paste
17:19 MarkusH ok
17:20 MarkusH but you have to change the file fileadmin/kochstudio/kochstudio.html too
17:20 derchiller u mean the marks?
17:20 MarkusH right
17:21 derchiller why cannot i use the marks i set before and change the typoscript?
17:21 MarkusH you can do that
17:21 derchiller what do i have to replace?
17:21 MarkusH besides that: the targer-attribute in html want's to get "_blank" not "__blank" only one underliner
17:22 MarkusH line 40 i think
17:22 MarkusH page.10.subparts.NAV < temp.vmenu
17:22 derchiller i know.. but my problem is another ;)
17:22 MarkusH replace NAV with you specific marker
17:22 derchiller thats the line i found and changed to NAV_FIRST
17:22 MarkusH k
17:22 derchiller but non line for NAV_SECOND
17:22 derchiller *no
17:23 MarkusH right
17:23 MarkusH its the same
17:24 derchiller not in my template html file
17:24 MarkusH but the links are clickable
17:25 derchiller lost my format for the first nav and the content does not appear
17:26 MarkusH derchiller: ok, let's start again
17:26 MarkusH or better, from scatch
17:27 derchiller correction: the content appears, but the second level of my pages are in the first navigation bar
17:27 derchiller (where i dont have content0
17:28 derchiller this seems not leading me to the result i hoped for :/
17:29 MarkusH http://howflow.com/pastes/1562
17:31 derchiller no. i restore the original typoscript and try to tell u again what i want to achieve
17:56 derchiller need help *cry*
20:45 HardPhuck damn my images in fe are only 6px wide
20:45 HardPhuck although i set them to 300px
21:32 ries HardPhuck: that's odd.. I never had such a problem
21:36 Provito HardPhuck, presumably it's not a css issue?
22:06 HardPhuck anyone has realurl configured for tt_news so it displays article date in url
22:06 HardPhuck blog like behaviour
22:29 rbachmann hi, I'm looking for someone who got the extension swiki successfully running. I'm struggling with a strange fe view ?
22:59 fuchur hi there
23:04 fuchur HardPhuck go and get some sleep ^^
23:06 HardPhuck lol
23:06 HardPhuck not yet :)
23:07 fuchur hrhr
23:13 HardPhuck i just succeeded at something i have never done before
23:13 HardPhuck i'm proud as hell :)
23:16 fuchur nice
23:16 fuchur i bought TYPO3 Extension Development from Dmitry and as soon as I finish readin I'll be proud as well
23:16 fuchur ^^
23:17 voidus HardPhuck: and what is that thing?
23:17 HardPhuck serving webpages from memcache with nginx
23:17 fuchur o_O
23:17 void with that evo_ extension?
23:17 HardPhuck yep
23:17 fuchur ok
23:17 fuchur think the phrase is not the same in english
23:17 fuchur :-D
23:18 HardPhuck i have two webservers, nginx and apache2
23:18 void fuchur: what that means?)
23:18 void HardPhuck: why do you need apache?
23:18 HardPhuck apache2 serves php pages and stores them to memcached
23:19 HardPhuck because nginx only uses cgi
23:19 fuchur void "I just understand trainstation" means that you don't understand anything :D
23:19 HardPhuck which is slow
23:19 fuchur "ich versteh nur bahnhof" it's in german
23:19 HardPhuck nginx is like a proxy, if content is found in memcache then serve it, if not, ask apache
23:20 void yes, i know, i read the docs.. or some review of that ext
23:20 HardPhuck great stuff,.. lower memory consumption and faster delivery
23:20 HardPhuck priceless for high traffic sites
23:20 fuchur do I need this?
23:20 fuchur think my blog had 3 readers yesterday
23:20 fuchur ^^
23:21 fuchur thinkin about intelligent caching mechanisms
23:21 HardPhuck haha
23:21 void )))
23:21 void fuchur: is that blog based on typo3?)
23:21 fuchur no
23:21 fuchur wordpress
23:22 fuchur ppl keep tellin me as an fulltime T3 worker I have to set up my blog on T3
23:22 fuchur for what to prove? that I'm able to run a T3 based page? :D
23:23 HardPhuck typo3 is bad for blogs anyway
23:23 HardPhuck no good blogging extension
23:23 void yes
23:24 fuchur yeah why not choose a system that's made for bloggin :)
23:24 fuchur I'll stop bloggin anyway
23:24 HardPhuck the best thing for a blog like behaviour is tt_news plus comments
23:24 fuchur stopped twitter already ... time consuming and not effective :)
23:25 fuchur but i think most customers are generated by mouth2mouth propaganda anyway
23:26 HardPhuck lol yea i make websites for about 6 years now and i still don't have my own
23:26 void fuchur: on russian it's called "sarafan radio" =)
23:26 fuchur HardPhuck do you need one?
23:26 fuchur I could sell
23:27 fuchur hrhr
23:27 fuchur I do this for a livin
23:27 fuchur :-p
23:27 HardPhuck haha, only if you have a really good designer
23:28 fuchur mh ... why don't you think I am a good designer :-D it is just because I'm a coder, isn't it?
23:28 fuchur :-p
23:28 HardPhuck yes.
23:28 HardPhuck :)
23:28 fuchur like my blog *g* standard-design, click, click, finished
23:28 fuchur :-D
23:29 fuchur no I don't have one ... as a coder I know too much coders and too few designers
23:29 fuchur mh http://www.zweikreis.de is a friend of mine
23:29 fuchur he does fantastic things with flash n stuff
23:30 HardPhuck okay i'll rephrase myself, i need a really good web 2.0 designer
23:30 HardPhuck :)
23:31 fuchur hr hr
23:31 fuchur web4.0 is the future
23:31 fuchur web4.0 will be easy, effective, text-based only :D
23:31 fuchur back to the roots
23:31 fuchur (i pray)
23:32 void telnet$ GET web40://google.com/
23:33 fuchur mh ... think usin lynx will be allowed :)
23:33 fuchur don't want to loose comfort
23:33 fuchur ^^
23:33 void lynx..
23:33 HardPhuck haha
23:33 fuchur tried to access backend today
23:34 fuchur "seems your browser is not supported"
23:34 fuchur :-(
23:34 HardPhuck with what
23:35 void you know that Linux will rule the world when commands lynx, cat and mount will do something ever related to cat, lynx and mount
23:35 pmk65 HardPhuck> You could use something like ;) -> http://www.artisteer.com/?p=home
23:35 HardPhuck linux is crap
23:35 fuchur HardPhuck lynx :D
23:36 void fuchur: http://freecr.ru/
23:36 fuchur it took me about six hours to get arch linux up and running all hardware and stuff
23:36 fuchur ^^
23:36 fuchur just to see it sucks
23:36 fuchur took me another hour to set up windows xp and get all the hardware running :P
23:36 fuchur sad but true
23:36 HardPhuck pmk65: well not really, i'm kinda 'design for a target users' kinda developer
23:37 HardPhuck so every design should be specific
23:37 HardPhuck and unique
23:37 HardPhuck guys help me out here, why would an image be displayed only 6px wide in the FE, i've set it to 200px in the be
23:38 void HardPhuck: have a link?
23:38 pmk65 the above procram can be done to design templates from scratch too.
23:38 HardPhuck http://www.salesrus.biz/management/
23:38 HardPhuck at the bottom
23:39 pmk65 you must have some TS that overrides the 200px setting.
23:40 fuchur is this your project phuck?
23:40 HardPhuck it is, but only the typo3 part
23:41 HardPhuck template was given to my by the client, all the content as well
23:44 fuchur *win
23:51 HardPhuck pmk65: the problem is that i need to find that TS:)
23:51 HardPhuck because i'm using the busynoggin site here
23:51 HardPhuck i'll try :)
23:53 HardPhuck ah found it
23:54 HardPhuck that was fast :)
23:56 JuanJOBC Hi all
23:57 fuchur hi
23:57 JuanJOBC I need to create new pages programatically from a remote php site. I have checked the typo3 DB structure, but I can't find something llegible to do so directly. What things should I add into the DB to create a page? thanks
23:58 JuanJOBC In other words, what tables should I care about in order to insert directly a page with one HTML field
23:58 JuanJOBC thanks
23:59 JuanJOBC ok,
23:59 JuanJOBC seems to be hard question
23:59 JuanJOBC let's try this one
23:59 JuanJOBC I want to upload several plain html files into a teypo3 web folder structure, this is easy

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