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00:00 MyGoddess hu ?
00:01 cboltz I'm referring to your "you do not need to put a renderObj [...]"
00:01 cboltz maybe I misunderstood you...
00:01 MyGoddess No, just saying that if you what to render the tt_content records as they should be, you should remove the whole renderObj block.
00:02 cboltz I only need the image field
00:02 cboltz final target is writing out some javascript to control a flash
00:02 MyGoddess okay
02:52 skipjack1 hm
02:53 skipjack ;)
08:35 Bluespuke good morning and a wonderfull friday to everyone!
08:44 BejjWrk morning
08:59 sorenmalling Morning
09:01 BejjWrk what a wonderful day, 0.5mbit connection... but "nooo nothing was changed"
09:02 BejjWrk it lags when I type over ssh :(
09:03 BejjWrk its fine I guess, its just 985ms ping roundtrip
09:08 fuchur mornin guys
09:11 fuchur someone ever tried to include EXT:smarty in his own extension?
09:30 bodo_typo3 moin
09:43 PiMB Hello world!
09:44 seewer Hello earth
09:46 Bluespuke hmmm, i have a little misunderstanding with my friend calendar_base... someone knows if it is possible to create an event with a start time but no end time (open end)? atm cal sets endtime 30 mins later then starttime :s
09:51 seewer If I remember correctly (haven't seen calendar_base in a while) calendar_base uses ics style as a base storage. So you can't have entries with no end-time except all day events. just set end-time to 24:00
09:55 Bluespuke yeah, found it here: http://svn.webempoweredchurch.org/issues/29
10:12 Bluespuke another question about the cal... i have an instance of the plugin inserted via typoscript. this instance should be a teaser with the events in the next 48h. works ver well, until i go to the main plugin and change the date. I allready tested useGetDate on the teaser but everytime there's a getDate in teh url the teaser shows the events from the getDate+48h.
10:12 Bluespuke any ideas how could i stop this?
10:15 PiMB maybe reset the typoscript on the page with the main plugin?
10:43 BejjWrk I have some issues with commerce 0.11.15 and typo3 4.2.9, when saving a user record in backend, or frontend, it raises an error, tho the records are still saved. For FE it complains on typo3conf/ext/commerce/dao/class.feuser_object.php and in backend it complains on typo3conf/ext/commerce/dao/class.address_object.php
10:43 BejjWrk as far as I can see there are no changes in these files from 0.11.15 to the latest trunk version
10:45 PiMB what is the error
10:47 BejjWrk Fatal error: Cannot access empty property in /var/www/www.sitehost.se/typo3conf/ext/commerce/dao/class.feuser_object.php on line 65
10:48 BejjWrk first I thoight it was a miss between tt_address and fe_users but thsose records seems valid
10:48 BejjWrk sry for typos, lagging like mad here
10:50 PiMB :)
10:50 PiMB check the line to see what it does
10:51 BejjWrk I did, it doesnt make sense
10:51 PiMB :]
10:51 BejjWrk I think the error comes from somewhere else
10:51 PiMB possible.
10:51 BejjWrk its a foreach on an empty object set
10:52 PiMB checked the commerce forge project yet for similar bugs?
10:52 PiMB maybe upgrade commerce?
10:52 BejjWrk i've been googling all morning, its 11am now
10:52 BejjWrk tried upgrading to latest trunk but that gave other wierd issues and made typo3 entirely shaky
10:53 PiMB maybe downgrade is an option.
10:53 PiMB sorry that I can't give a out-of-the-box solution
10:54 PiMB haven't seen the problem myself, and kinda to busy to dive into it atm.
10:55 BejjWrk thanks anyway, if i find a solution, I'll make sure to mention it here so others can avoid or remedy
10:57 PiMB thanks mate!
11:01 BejjWrk hey goes around comes around :) I help others, others help me :)
11:20 Bluespuke BejjWrk: yeah man! that's the real meaning of a community for me! you're speaking right out of my heart ;)
11:34 maholtz|WORK @BejjWrk: did you check tt_address or fe_users? check database in install tool and go to extension manager and check infos of commerce
11:39 BejjWrk maholtz|WORK: 10:53 < BejjWrk> first I thoight it was a miss between tt_address and fe_users but thsose records seems valid
11:43 maholtz|WORK ah, ok:)
11:44 maholtz|WORK did you check commerce in extension manager? there are three static tables - are they ok?
11:44 BejjWrk commerce to begin with isnt ok :P i'll have a look
11:45 BejjWrk it keeps sayign "Update needed" and tables exist
11:45 BejjWrk so I hit "make updates", and it still keeps saying it needs update
11:46 BejjWrk Im gonna drown my sorrow in some food, afk
11:46 BejjWrk .
11:50 PiMB what updates does it need?
11:50 PiMB and try doing those by hand in phpmyadmin, maybe it gives an error there
11:53 maholtz|WORK usually that depens on syntax errors or on wrong keys
12:22 FloLeBlanc hi all, can somebody help me with a language problem in sr_feuser_register please. it all works but the code ###LABEL_TX_SRFEUSERREGISTERFLBEXT_REVEIVE_SMS_INFO_CHECKED### in the data preview doesn't get substituted (custom fields with my own ext)
12:24 FloLeBlanc I tried to set it in TS but to no avail (it works for the input form)
13:10 beli hi there, i am using the (cal) extension....i defined a storage sysfolder....added an +ext template...added categories, events and stuff in the sysfolder, created a plugin in a page, but no items are shown up.....any ideas?
13:10 beli the extension output in the fe is: no entries found
13:11 beli i configured the startingpoint to be the created sysfolder
13:12 PiMB included any static templates in your +ext?
13:13 beli yes
13:13 beli my main template
13:18 PiMB does cal itself has any static templates that you need to include?
13:18 beli hmm yes, i included cal_css_default and so on
13:18 beli it seems like the cal is not shown because the records are not found
13:19 PiMB I get that, but just to be sure that everything else is correct.
13:19 beli the fe output: no entries found tells me that it would show sth. if sth. would be there...
13:19 beli PiMB: sure, correct procedure
13:22 PiMB any log items or errors in php?
13:22 beli PiMB: if you have the time you can take a look yourself
13:22 beli PiMB: havent checked that, but i think its not a php problem....its a config problem
13:25 PiMB sure, got a couple of sec.
13:40 atmos4 hi
13:40 beli hi
13:40 atmos4 any idea why the sitemap content element shows up completely empty (typo3 4.3)
13:40 atmos4 tried with different starting points
13:41 beli hmm
13:41 beli lemme verify that, wait pls
13:42 beli it was ok with 4.2? you upgraded typo3?
13:42 atmos4 just inserted
13:43 atmos4 so no idea with 4.2
13:43 beli ok
13:44 atmos4 the 4.3 css_styled_content is included in the root template
13:46 beli atmos....delete your starting point
13:46 beli just give none
13:48 atmos4 doesn'T change a thing
13:49 beli hmm, sitemaps work fine for me by just adding a content element "sitemap" without any starting point folder
13:49 atmos4 maybe it doesn't like my use of shortcuts and sysfolders fro menus
13:50 beli dont think so
13:50 beli you also try to map the sitemap on an hmenu with ts
13:50 beli tt_content.menu < styles.sitemap.text
13:50 beli tt_content.menu = HMENU
13:50 beli ...
13:51 atmos4 haven't tried that yet
13:51 atmos4 but I just though about dropping in one of the typo3 extensions fopr sitemaps
13:51 atmos4 which is probably quicker than hunting for the problem
13:52 BejjWrk typo3 may be free, but we pay with pain and agony
13:52 atmos4 :-)
13:58 atmos4 hmm at least one other sitemap plugin also shows no content ...
13:59 atmos4 at least it's consistent ;-)
13:59 FloLeBlanc can anyone help me with custom checkboxes in sr_feuser_register - everything works but the confirmation page where only the marker is shown instead of "yes" or "no"
13:59 beli hmm the sitemap is nothing but an hmenu in my eyes
14:01 grunwalski hi there
14:02 beli hi
14:02 grunwalski I have one question: Is there some sort of a maximum quantity of sections within a an fce?
14:03 grunwalski I have created a section in a fce but in the page module i can just create ~15 Elements of a secion
14:03 atmos4 hmm, http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=12339
14:08 atmos4 I changed the sysfolders to normal pages
14:08 atmos4 now the sitemap renders
14:08 beli erm i use sysfolders too.....sysfolders should not be listed in a sitemap
14:09 atmos4 yes but I used sysfolders for my menus
14:09 atmos4 so they can'T be called as regular pages
14:09 atmos4 but sitemap doesn't seems to be able to handle that
14:09 beli argl :)
14:09 beli sysfolders are not ment for regular pages
14:10 atmos4 menu are not regular pages
14:10 atmos4 they are just containers for pages really
14:10 atmos4 so using sysfolder for that is not so unlogical ;-)
14:10 beli hmm no
14:10 beli menu is just some ts code
14:10 beli the folder structure that contains content are pages
14:11 beli sysfolders are ment for data storage, extension storage aso.
14:38 grunwalski Is there in templavoila some sort of maximum size for a FCE-Entity in a page?
14:41 seewer not as far as I know. Do you have a problem?
14:45 grunwalski i have a section in my fce. And if i create many many sections within a FCE-Entity on a page only the first 14 and a half section will b saved ...
14:45 Carabas Hi. I need a hint to access my typo3 installation on xubuntu karmic. I folowed this howto http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/TYPO3. (manual installation) When I try to access the installation for the first time via http://localhost/quickstart-3.8.1 I get a forbidden message. - Must be a very silly question, but I have no clue how to solve this *shrug*
14:46 seewer grunwalski: are you using apache with the suhoshin patch? Maybe that could be the source
14:47 Carabas (Of course I set the righs according to the howto.)
14:47 seewer Carabas: Both parts? for the source and the quickstart?
14:48 Carabas jep
14:49 seewer uh... ok. in that case im lost. I'm running 4.3 on xubuntu karmic here myself but I did a manual install without a package
14:50 Carabas Should this maybe be set to my username? "sudo chown -R ROOT:www-data /var/www/quickstart-<Versionsnummer> "
14:50 grunwalski sewer: yupp, the customer has installed the suhosin-patch on the server ...
14:51 seewer grunwalksi: then that may be the cause if your problem. the patch limits the amount of items that can be submitted
14:52 seewer Carabas: No, you shouldn't.
14:53 seewer grunwalski: have your customer look at his php conf. increasing suhosin.post|get|request.max_vars should solve the problem
14:53 Carabas ok
14:53 grunwalski ok i will take a look on it. thank you ver much
14:56 Carabas Maybe someone could point me to a better howto on installing typo3 on xubuntu karmic?!
14:58 Carabas My google-fu was not successfull. The best I get for Linux is what I posted above.
14:59 seewer Carabas: http://typo3.org/documentation/document-library/installation/doc_inst_upgr/current/
14:59 Carabas jipeee
14:59 Carabas thx
15:19 ndee if you create a plugin to show on every page but for each page, the configuration can be different, how would you do that? Just create a template record on each page?
15:31 grunwalski ndee: this is one way to do it. You make one template with the configuration and include for each page this template.
15:33 xaver hi
15:34 xaver i need a typoscript lik [PIDinRootLine = 8] but only if the site is 8 what i watch
15:34 PiMB que?
15:35 xaver ?
15:35 grunwalski [globalVar = TSFE:id = yourPageId]
15:35 PiMB what do you need?
15:39 xaver i need something like if($_GET['id'] == 8){ $active = 'calss="active"'; } else {$active="";} $content .= "<li $active >"';
15:39 xaver PiMB:
15:39 xaver only the user watch this site
15:42 xaver PiMB: is that possible
15:58 PiMB like grunwalski said, use ts conditions
16:48 BejjWrk now im frustrated. something is pushing out a ?> in the beginning of my html-pages
16:48 BejjWrk and I cant figure out where it comes from
17:02 atmos4 hmm, the new memcached cache backend in typo3 4.3 doesn't really give me any speedups, latency is still abound 500ms, whereas with static file caching it more like 90ms
17:05 atmos4 seems the overhead is in initializing the typo3 framework, which can be entirely skipped with static caching
17:08 seewer If you want real speed there's nothing else but static files.
17:09 atmos4 I think memcached can help more, if the db is located on a different server
17:09 atmos4 so the latency to connecting to it is larger
17:09 atmos4 because the query cache in mysql should do pretty much the same as memcached
17:10 atmos4 at least I didn't really see a big difference between fetching the page from cache in db and in memcached
17:11 seewer That depends on your hardware, config, load and how many pages you have
17:11 atmos4 yea, but query cache for db needs mem, as needs mem for memcached
17:12 atmos4 memcached probably has lesss overhead than connecting to mysql
17:12 seewer yes. On the other hand I have a db here where mysql is configured so that the whole db can be kept in memory.
17:13 seewer So there's not much you gain by using memcached if it's all on the same server
17:13 atmos4 yes
17:14 seewer And of course, if its possible have t3 generate static files. No php/database involved at all.
17:14 atmos4 I think memcached could help if it could be used without initializing the rest of the typo3 core
17:15 atmos4 genreally I agree that static caching is most effective
17:15 atmos4 and if there's enough free mem, files are cached in memory aswell by the os file cache
17:17 seewer indeed
17:19 seewer have a nice weekend all!
17:19 atmos4 you aswekk, cya
17:19 atmos4 aswell
17:24 jesse_002 hi everyone
17:24 jesse_002 got a strange issue maybe someone has run into
17:26 jesse_002 4.3 and templavoila 1.4.1: I have setup lib.nav for navigation and used the HMENU in TS setup. My result on the FE is using htmlspecialchars
17:26 jesse_002 so < becomes &lt; and " become &quot;
17:27 jesse_002 anyone run into this before or know where I should look?
18:10 FloLeBlanc can someone please tell me how to enable fe editing in 4.3?
18:10 FloLeBlanc setting the user TSConfig doesn't seem to do the trick
18:17 maholtz|WORK @FloLeBlanc: install system extension
18:26 FloLeBlanc thank you found it
19:13 phoxicle Hi
19:13 phoxicle Anyone here using Fluid with v4.3, or know of a better place to go for questions about it?
19:56 bati_ hello
20:03 phil1 hi bati_
21:19 atmos4 hi
21:20 atmos4 any notable alternatives to index_search I should be looking at to implement search functionality?
21:50 bodo_typo3 atmos4: mnogosearch or solr
21:51 atmos4 I just read some stuff on mnogosearch, it seems to be powerful
21:51 atmos4 solr is the stuff ingo renner is working on, right?
21:51 bodo_typo3 2x yes
21:52 bodo_typo3 but it's not an easy way for every server/hosting
21:52 bodo_typo3 you have to compile and stuff
21:52 atmos4 well it's a root server
21:52 atmos4 that won't be a problem
21:52 atmos4 what I read about on twitter is that solr is a sort of categoprizing search
21:53 atmos4 were you have lots of results and you can add attributes to further shrink them
21:53 bodo_typo3 yeah but keep in mind the mangement, updates, ...
21:53 atmos4 yea
21:53 bodo_typo3 I have personally no experience with solr
21:54 atmos4 I also only have around 100 pages or so to index
21:54 bodo_typo3 mnogo is good old, solid & proven
21:54 bodo_typo3 with lots of articles, tutorials
21:55 bodo_typo3 have you got speed problems or missing features?
21:55 bodo_typo3 ah, 100 pages
21:55 bodo_typo3 must be the features ;-)
21:56 atmos4 well I used indexed_search in the past and the setup was a pain and search results not really good
21:56 atmos4 on other pages I have used custom ajax search, which makes sense on sites where you have lots of recors of same type
21:57 atmos4 so you have more of a table search and no crawler based search
21:57 bodo_typo3 but crawling is much easier to setup
21:58 bodo_typo3 don't know your budget but for 100 pages
21:58 bodo_typo3 sound a bit overkill
21:58 atmos4 in this case I'll go with relatively simple solution
21:59 atmos4 it's just I didn't really like indexed_Search, when I worked with it, so I was looking for alternatives
21:59 bodo_typo3 ... that's in my eyes indexed_search
22:00 atmos4 well I guess indexed_search it'll be in this case, but I'll keep mnoGoSearch in my head for future projects
22:02 bodo_typo3 sound's reasonable
22:03 bodo_typo3 in my case mnogo for sites < 2000 pages with the need to sort and weight
22:04 atmos4 yea weighting is aways an issue with search
22:06 atmos4 recently I changed the tt_products search algorithm to use mysql fulltext search, instead of a LIKE based one
22:06 atmos4 it improved search result weigfhting, but still not perfect
22:06 atmos4 because inr eality search words in title need wo be weighted much higher than in description, which isn't covered by the mysql search
22:07 atmos4 the mysql fulltext search however does ignore useless words and takes into account the number of times a search term is found

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