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01:03 Stasik Hello, i`m writing my first extension, for a reason $conf array inside of the PHP class is empty :( what am i doing wrong
01:03 Stasik ?
01:08 Stasik Hello, i`m writing my first extension, for a reason $conf array inside of the PHP class is empty :( what am i doing wrong?
01:19 Stasik Hello, i`m writing my first extension, for a reason $conf array inside of the PHP class is empty :( what am i doing wrong?
01:50 Stasik somehow i have a feeling that t3lib_extMgm::addStaticFile is not being processed properly
06:08 nkuttler anybody in here using the ecorss or lib extensions?
06:08 nkuttler on 4.2?
08:14 nd_ nkuttler: yes, lib and div
08:19 kraftb good morning!
08:40 milpoer morning..
08:47 milpoer anyone expirenced problems with typo3-links after upgrading to latest php, mysql, apache, my links is missing, as i can see some < > is missing arround the <link></link> tags, the <!-- comments tags also miss < >
09:32 jochke Anyone who knows how to change the default storage dir for uploading images from RTE?
09:33 _pedda_ moin moin
09:34 jochke As default it is uploads/ but I like to change it to fileadmin/user_upload. I've tried to chenge the [RTE_imageStorageDir] in the install tool. But it has no effect. Anyone?
09:39 jochke Or wait... now I can see the smart thing about it is in uploads/
09:39 jochke Just forget my question. :)
09:48 milpoer anyone that can help me with my last post ?
10:10 Bluespuke hi @ all
10:12 maholtz|WORK milpoer: what was your problem?
10:12 Bluespuke is it possible to show calendar base on each page (by typoscript?)?
10:13 maholtz|WORK sure
10:13 maholtz|WORK easiest way is to put it on one page, configure it and use then RECORDS
10:14 Bluespuke ok
10:14 maholtz|WORK but you should think about caching issues
10:36 Bluespuke thx @ maholtz, seems that i got it working ;)
10:43 maholtz|WORK your welcome:)
11:00 Stasik Hello, i`m writing my first extension, for a reason $conf array inside of the PHP class is empty :( what am i doing wrong?
11:13 maholtz|WORK @Stasik: you have to setup some config stuff in typoscript:
11:13 maholtz|WORK plugin.tx_yourextension_whateveritdoes(usually_pi1).test = hello world
11:14 maholtz|WORK and do in your main function $this->conf = $conf
11:14 maholtz|WORK it will be used in pi_base too
11:14 maholtz|WORK f.e. for translation handling
11:17 Stasik maholz: i have setup.txt
11:18 Stasik maholz|WORK: i have a static file binding wich seems not to work
11:18 maholtz|WORK @Stasik: perhaps it is not included?
11:18 maholtz|WORK check in objectbrowser
11:18 maholtz|WORK what you can see there
11:18 Stasik maholz|WORK: exactly its not there
11:19 Stasik maholz|WORK: no idea why its not, i used kickstarter
11:19 Stasik maholz|WORK: http://hachmeister.org/index.php?id=137&type=98&L=0&tx_kharticlepages_pi1[print]=0 this is the tutorial i followed
11:20 maholtz|WORK @Stasik: as usuall add your typoscript to your template -> add extension templates?
11:21 Stasik maholz|WORK: manually? i actually want that setup.txt is processed
11:22 MarwolTuk moin - aem.. - good mornig everyone :-)
11:24 Stasik maholz|WORK: manually? i actually want that setup.txt is processed
11:25 maholtz|WORK @Stasik: Include static (from extensions):
11:26 maholtz|WORK btw.: typoscript is not funny, if you have typos in it...
11:28 Stasik maholz|WORK: includeStatic is there, could u rewise the content: http://hachmeister.org/index.php?id=137&type=98&L=0&tx_kharticlepages_pi1[print]=0
11:29 HardPhuck pagetype: spacer is used only as a visual spacer for the BE, right?
11:29 HardPhuck i mean visual menu separator
11:30 maholtz|WORK @HardPhuck: nope - you can configure it for frontend too - but if you dont, you would not see it
11:30 HardPhuck that's what i needed to know
11:30 maholtz|WORK :)
11:30 HardPhuck i don't need it in FE yet, but just in case :)
11:30 HardPhuck thanx
11:30 maholtz|WORK @Statsik: seems i do not understand whats your problem is - if you have included your static setup you should be able to see it in the objectbrowser
11:31 maholtz|WORK perhaps paste your setup.txt in pastebin
11:33 MarwolTuk is there a posibility to have some special typo-script code in case there are some cObjects in the right column of pages? (it shold be not parsed / active if there are no cObjects inside that column)
11:40 maholtz|WORK @MarwolTuk: yep - stdWrap.numRows
11:40 maholtz|WORK if.isTrue.numRows....
11:40 maholtz|WORK on that object
11:42 MarwolTuk thanks... somehow didn't found that myself in tsref...
11:42 maholtz|WORK np
11:43 maholtz|WORK allways search in stdWrap:)
11:45 MarwolTuk it seems to be that what is decribed by the german term "eierlegende Wollmilchsau" :-D
11:47 maholtz|WORK yep:)
11:51 blukrutt hey guys, can you tell me where to edit the fe_login form?
11:55 Stasik maholz|WORK: http://pastebin.com/d1fc512b8
11:56 maholtz|WORK and your plugin is "tx_imagegallery_pi1" ?
11:57 maholtz|WORK what do you expect to get in $conf? and whats your extension key?
11:57 Stasik its just image_gallery
11:57 Stasik maholtz|WORK: in conf i expect to read templateFile for example
11:58 maholtz|WORK t3lib_div::debug($conf) is empty? in main function?
11:58 Stasik maholtz|WORK: it has only userFunc
11:59 Stasik maholtz|WORK: constants.txt http://pastebin.com/d6908d79a
11:59 maholtz|WORK constants does not matter
11:59 maholtz|WORK paste t3lib_div::debug($conf)
12:02 Stasik maholtz|WORK: userFunc tx_imagegallery_pi1->main
12:03 s-andersen I have a problem in a 4.0.12 installation. When I logon through IE on the front end, it throws me off when I start navigating. In firefox it works great, any ideas?
12:04 maholtz|WORK @Stasik: you should be able to find that in the object browser
12:04 HardPhuck okay not a typo3 question but anyway: i need a good xml editing tool
12:04 HardPhuck which one do you recommend
12:08 Stasik maholtz|WORK: yes, ok, the userFunc is there
12:08 Stasik maholtz|WORK: but not the other functions
12:08 maholtz|WORK do you need schema/dtd checking etc? years ago i worked with xml-spy, but the most time i have not to complex xml stuff, so i am using an editor with syntax highlighting like notepad++ on win or quanta on linux
12:09 maholtz|WORK @Stasik: so you can add properties via objectbrowser do it and compare
12:10 Stasik maholtz|WORK: getting this: You cannot edit properties and values, if there's no current template.
12:11 maholtz|WORK so, add an template - but i am wondering: you told me you included static typoscript of your extension ...
12:12 Stasik maholtz|WORK: hmm, ok addingmanually does come up inside of php
12:12 Stasik maholtz|WORK: somehow i messed the setup.txt or its not imported
12:13 Stasik maholtz|WORK: got this in the ext_tables.php t3lib_extMgm::addStaticFile($_EXTKEY,'static/', 'Simple Gallery Templates');
12:15 MarwolTuk is there somwhere some documentation about typo-script code facing record-renderObj's (tt_content.*)? (tsref tells something abot it under the description of the cObject "CONTENT", but this is not really much Information...)
12:16 maholtz|WORK @MarwolTuk: perhaps http://wiki.typo3.org/De:ts45min helps? (tell me if it does)
12:17 maholtz|WORK @Stasik: check everything twice, check typos
12:18 MarwolTuk maholtz|WORK: i'll check it out ;-)
12:19 Stasik maholtz|WORK: spent an evening on it yesterday
12:19 Stasik maholtz|WORK: ext_tables is generated by kickstarter
12:21 maholtz|WORK @Stasik: and you included that template in your main template?
12:21 maholtz|WORK or in your extension template - where you change the values?
12:21 maholtz|WORK did you compare what object browser does and what do you have in your setup.txt?
12:23 Stasik maholtz|WORK: no i havent included the template
12:24 Stasik maholtz|WORK: how do i do it? i thought addStaticFile will do da job?
12:33 Stasik maholtz|WORK: how do i do it? i thought addStaticFile will do da job?
12:33 s-andersen Hmm, strange, fe-login working fine with IE in 4.0.1 but not in 4.0.12. With firefox it works in both versions
12:36 Stasik maholtz|WORK: object browser does not have the objects at all
12:42 s-andersen Stasik: What is your problem?
12:44 Stasik s-andersen: made a ext with kickstarter, the static TS info which is in setup.txt is not in the object browser...
12:44 s-andersen Paste your setup.txt to a pastebin and give me the url
12:50 Stasik s-andersen: http://pastebin.com/d1fc512b8
12:51 s-andersen And you are looking for the contents inside of "plugin" in the object browser?
12:51 Stasik do
12:51 Stasik its not there
12:52 Stasik s-andersen: got this in the ext_tables.php t3lib_extMgm::addStaticFile($_EXTKEY,'static/', 'Simple Gallery Templates');
12:52 s-andersen Stasik: That's not enough
12:52 Stasik s-andersen: gotta go, write here plz will be back in 80 mins
12:52 Stasik s-andersen: what else do i have to do?
12:52 Stasik s-andersen: gotta go badly, write here plz, 80 mins
12:52 dec__ i have a serious weird bug ... i run an own blug extension on www.jesperpaardekooper.com as you can see.. i use 1 rte field to build up the Teaser, and 1 to build up the full article, as you can see when you click on 'read full article >>'... RTE passing for the teaser field works fine, but the full article doesn't. <links> don't get converted back etc... anyone got any idea?
12:53 s-andersen Stasik: That line of code will only make the static file available to the template records. You need to to inside a template record and add the static file
12:53 dec__ im absolutely clueless :/
12:54 s-andersen Stasik: This shows you how to do it: http://webempoweredchurch.com/no_cache/support/howtos/flash_player/?src=uploads%2Ftx_wecknowledgebase%2Fadd-static-template.swf
12:54 s-andersen Stasik: And written in text here: http://webempoweredchurch.com/no_cache/support/classes/wec_104_administration/?tx_wecknowledgebase_pi1%5Btt_news%5D=250
12:56 s-andersen dec__: What's the teaser and what's the bodytext, to me they seem to be the same?
12:57 dec__ on teh first article yeah
12:57 s-andersen So you simply have 2 field with the same content in the first article?
12:57 dec__ i just used 2 seperate fields instead of selecing an X amount of chars from the bodyfield to create an article
12:57 dec__ cause sometimes i may want the teaser different than the header of the article
12:58 dec__ but yeah, the first article has exactly the same content yes
12:58 dec__ and 1 parses fine, the other one doesnt
12:59 s-andersen And your code for parsing them are the same?
12:59 dec__ i don't use any code really
12:59 dec__ i set up the form with the kickstarter, that's all i did, used to work fine, but i think it's been broke since i've updated my typo3 installation
13:00 dec__ i haven't change any code whatsoever regarding the backend form or handling
13:01 Rickard I have a folder in fileadmin called _temp_. It contains a bunch of old files (2007 and earlier). Is this directory no longer used by typo3? In that case, can I safely delete the directory?
13:05 s-andersen dec__: you are using TIMTAB?
13:05 dec__ no
13:05 dec__ i made the extension myself
13:06 dec__ https://svn.typo3.org/TYPO3v4/Extensions/blogs/trunk/
13:06 s-andersen If you made the extension yourself, how do you output the teaser and the bodytext then?
13:06 dec__ erhm,
13:06 dec__ just a $result = selectGetRows(); $teaser = $result['bodytext']
13:07 dec__ err $teaser = $result['teaser'], ofcourse
13:08 s-andersen That's weird, could you copy the contents of the field "teaser" for the first article and throw it into pastebin?
13:08 dec__ the html source yea? or how its saved in the db?
13:09 dec__ http://pastebin.com/m48cd3d50 <--- html source
13:09 s-andersen dec__: No, the actual contents in the database
13:09 dec__ k
13:10 s-andersen The value you could read in phpmyadmin
13:10 dec__ http://pastebin.com/m4642c400
13:10 dec__ first lines are teaser
13:10 dec__ second ones are bodytext
13:10 dec__ notice how the <p> tag is gone as well
13:10 s-andersen Well dec__ is you teaser field RTE?
13:10 dec__ yes
13:11 s-andersen That doesn't make that much sense, but the bodytext outputting like it does make a lot of sence
13:11 s-andersen sense
13:11 dec__ the 2 are of the same type as far as i know
13:11 dec__ ill double check through the kickstarter
13:12 s-andersen dec__: Replace nl2br(htmlspecialchars($comment['bodytext'])) with $this->pi_RTEcssText($comment['bodytext'])
13:12 dec__ yup theyre exactly the same - ok ill try that
13:13 s-andersen You see, the teaser field from database behaves like it hasn't been put through the parseFunc before it hit the database. Unlike the bodytext, which looks exactly like a field that has been prepared for display through parseFunc
13:14 dec__ thats the comment section though
13:14 s-andersen oh
13:15 dec__ '###BODYTEXT###' => $result[0]['bodytext']
13:15 dec__ should i put it there yea?
13:15 s-andersen Then do this also: replace $result[0]['bodytext'] with $this->pi_RTEcssText($result[0]['bodytext'])
13:16 dec__ oh wow
13:16 dec__ you're my hero, i been messing with that for so long
13:16 dec__ no idea why i don't need to do that for the teaser field though, that's odd
13:17 dec__ actually its probably the teaser field thats bugged :x
13:17 s-andersen dec__: That would be my conclusion too
13:18 dec__ pretty weird :/
13:18 dec__ but cheers for that, never knew of pi_RTEcssText
13:19 s-andersen You do now. What it does is simply using the default parseFunc to parse the content. If you want to use a custom parseFunc there are a bit more steps, I think they are in the htmlArea manual
13:19 dec__ yeah i knew rte is supposed to save <a> stuff like <link>, but i always figured the parsing was done automatically
13:20 s-andersen I'll leave now, got some stuff to read :) See you
13:20 dec__ cyas :)
13:35 MarwolTuk maholtz|WORK: http://wiki.typo3.org/De:ts45min seeems _very_ usefull to me... it gives just that overview aubut typoscript that isn't given by the modern template bilding tutorial or the tsref (tsref is also very usefull, but ist focuses only documentation)
13:36 MarwolTuk thank you for that thing :-)
13:38 maholtz|WORK nice to hear that - thanks:)
13:42 Rickard Is fileadmin/_temp_ no longer used by Typo3?
13:49 milpoer hi, i have some problems with my typo3 installation before: 4.2 the problem apears after upgrading my php to latest stable, the < > are missing in some of the code, so : !--TYPO3SEARCH_begin-- is echo'ed in the frontend.. i know the best solutions is to upgrade, but right now i don' have that much time, so i qucik workaround will be greath..
13:56 nkuttler milpoer: wouldn't that be your template that inserts the tags?
13:57 milpoer nkuttler: yes, but the templates contains < and > so the rendingen exclude them some how.
13:58 maholtz|WORK @milpoer: perhaps you have some tidy or "clean code" extension in use?
14:00 milpoer maholtz|WORK: perhaps.. it happend at all my installations that runs lower thatn 4.2 at once after upgrade the php.
14:05 milpoer maholtz|WORK: you can see here: http://www.dedi.org.eg/ how the menu in right side is completely redered wrong where the link elements are.. it is like showing the source...
14:07 maholtz|WORK looks like all "<" and ">" are stripped off
14:07 milpoer yes..
14:08 milpoer but why i don't know.. im quite confused.. never seen it before.
14:08 maholtz|WORK and the content is not parsed because you get "link" instead "a"
14:08 milpoer yes
14:08 maholtz|WORK backend works?
14:08 milpoer yes
14:09 maholtz|WORK so, it is not an php issue, but an typo3 extension issue
14:09 milpoer no prob. discover yet:)
14:09 maholtz|WORK check all extension you loaded
14:09 milpoer ok.. but all my sites do have a lot of different plugins, so i must be one that they have en common.
14:11 maholtz|WORK sourcecode optimization ...
14:11 maholtz|WORK something like that
14:11 milpoer you mean that could be that plugin?
14:11 Guschtel hi i have a problem in typo3 that when i click to add content in the "border" column, after saving the entry it is saved as a part of the main column - does so know what could be the reason?
14:13 maholtz|WORK @Guschtel: your an admin?
14:13 Guschtel yes
14:14 maholtz|WORK if you edit that element, you can select the column .. does that work?
14:15 Guschtel yes
14:15 Guschtel thats the workaround i'm using
14:20 maholtz|WORK check
14:20 maholtz|WORK $TCA["tt_content"]["columns"]["colPos"]["config"]["items"]
14:20 maholtz|WORK if the values are like in the database
14:20 maholtz|WORK perhaps play around with values in database
14:23 milpoer maholtz|WORK: can i be sure that its a front end plugin?? Just to know were to start opdate..
14:26 maholtz|WORK @milpoer: nope, could be every plugin-type - because ist just free to select what you want
14:27 milpoer ok.. just thought.. thx
14:33 milpoer maholtz|WORK: now all plugins are updated, and cached cleared.. no difference.
14:34 wangyuan270 ##java
14:35 maholtz|WORK @milpoer: perhaps you can remove some?
14:36 milpoer maholtz|WORK: not so good, cause they are all in use.. but it could be nessesary to test..
14:37 maholtz|WORK no extension which makes code optimization?
14:38 Guschtel ok, another question: whats wrong with this typo3conf? http://rafb.net/p/pbDR6271.html it simply doesn't parse the template when i put the if construct in there...
14:39 maholtz|WORK @Guschtel: perhaps that helps you to understand how typoscript works: http://wiki.typo3.org/Ts45min
14:41 Guschtel maholtz|WORK, well the thing is it works when i put it inside an extension template...
14:42 milpoer maholtz|WORK: not that i know.. i got following ext: rtehtmlarea, version, cag_linkchecker, phpmyadmin, error_404_handling, css_styled_content, realurl, google_sitemap, indexed_search, cron_printlink, lib, static_info_tables, div, templavoila, t3skin.
14:42 maholtz|WORK check cag_linkchecker
14:43 milpoer its up to date, but with try to disable, but its only used at one website.. but will try
14:45 milpoer maholtz|WORK: no difference..:(
14:45 milpoer i think i will have to update all source.. hopes that works.
14:49 milpoer maholtz|WORK: I can see that the string "<!--TYPO3SEARCH_begin--> comes from templavoila plugin, and thats plugin is used at all my pages, so that could be it.. but that is difficult to disable :) And its allready updated.
14:59 Guschtel maholtz|WORK, i don't get it: http://rafb.net/p/f0EKLx45.html could you have a look at that?
14:59 Stasik maholtz|WORK: juhu it worked, everything works except templateFile is not there :(
15:02 Stasik maholtz|WORK: juhu it worked, is it reserved or smth?
15:08 Stasik maholtz|WORK: it works fine if i use templatefile but if i use templateFile its gone
15:16 Stasik maholtz|WORK: thanks alot!
15:48 ockmonix hi
15:48 Guschtel One more question regarding to setting links: if i have two domains set up in typo3 can i link from one to the other with the full domain name? Currently my typo3 generates links with the same domain / relative links
15:48 maholtz|WORK @Stasik: np - well, if templateFile does not work - there is perhaps somewhere an typoscript template like ...templateFile >
15:48 maholtz|WORK which you forgot?
15:49 ockmonix is it possible to wrap a plugin without adjusting the extension class?
15:50 maholtz|WORK @Guschtel: dont believe that : "if.isTrue.numRows < styles.content.getBorder {" works really
15:50 Guschtel maholtz|WORK, it does
15:50 maholtz|WORK i would say thats an syntax error
15:50 maholtz|WORK you get different templates?
15:50 Guschtel jup
15:51 Guschtel if i usethatin an extension template
15:51 maholtz|WORK i would expect an parsing error
15:51 Bluespuke My backend tells me that: TYPO3 Fatal Error: Extension key "sv" was NOT loaded! (t3lib_extMgm::extPath)
15:51 Bluespuke what the hell is this?
15:51 Guschtel maholtz|WORK, why?
15:52 Bluespuke and the frontend tell me that now: Error: The main frontend extension "cms" was not loaded. Enable it in the extension manager in the backend.
15:52 Guschtel basicallyy you can insert a \n in front of the {
15:52 maholtz|WORK because < styles.content.get {
15:52 Bluespuke :s
15:53 Bluespuke noone an idea?
15:53 Bluespuke sorry i start to panic a little...
15:53 Guschtel maholtz|WORK, anyway currently i'm searching for a solution to the link problem
15:53 maholtz|WORK @Bluespuke: chey localconf.php - there is an entry with loaded extensions
15:53 maholtz|WORK perhaps add it there
15:55 Bluespuke can't find anything :s
15:59 Bluespuke what the hell was that now?
15:59 Bluespuke i deleted the typo3conf/temp_CACHED* and everything runs fine again
16:00 maholtz|WORK did you install a new extension?
16:00 Bluespuke no i just changed the template for tt_news :s
16:02 Bluespuke damn this typo3 installation is very weird...
16:02 maholtz|WORK the extensions are
16:08 Guschtel ok, i've set config.typolinkCheckRootline = 1 and config.typolinkEnableLinksAcrossDomains = 1 - now the domain links are ok, but its missing the baseURL part so instead of giving http.//www.example.com/baseUrl/?id=42 it gives http.//www.example.com/?id=42
16:23 Guschtel anyone?
16:53 Bluespuke bye @ all
17:07 jochke Do anyone know how to restrict a user from deleting tt_news records? Are there any user ts for that?
17:18 blukrutt hey guys, do you know a "webmail" extension for typo3? that users are able to recerve and send via pop3/imap smtp?
17:25 dinsdale07 jochke, look in the "delete tables" table in user admin for that user. You can restrict them from modifieng and deleting tables.
17:27 eduardo I'm seeing in the backend in fileadmin the following error:
17:27 eduardo Not Acceptable
17:27 eduardo An appropriate representation of the requested resource /site/typo3/file_list.php could not be found on this server.
17:27 eduardo Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
17:28 eduardo Any ideas on how to get rid of it?
17:28 jochke dinsdale07: I have only Tables (listing) and Tables (modify) in the access list?
17:28 _pedda_ cu all
17:29 jochke dinsdale07: It actually is'nt a user I'll have that restriction, but a usergroup. :)
17:30 dinsdale07 hm I see. can you maybe set the permissions for the news folder to that usergrp. there you have an option "delete"
17:38 jochke dinsdale07: That won't work in my setup, cause I have many groups, and all new pages/folders are owned by a general group, that all groups are inherited by.
17:39 dinsdale07 ok, then I don't know really - but you can try look for the ext acl in the TER.
18:07 eduardo Does anyone know how to avoid the error "Not Acceptable An appropriate representation of the requested resource /site/typo3/file_list.php could not be found on this server."
19:58 eduardo Does anyone know how to avoid the error "Not Acceptable An appropriate representation of the requested resource /site/typo3/file_list.php could not be found on this server."
22:54 Pepelargo Hi all
22:54 Pepelargo I have a big problem. Is there anyway to delete the "Login" legend that the "login" component writes by default?? In the plugin options no way, and it is very anoying thanks
22:55 Pepelargo Also I am looking for the template where this is store under typo3conf but no success, where is all this information store??
23:03 Pepelargo any help??
23:03 Pepelargo Just want to know where is stored the html for the login element?
23:05 TaucherMK Pepelargo: Why do you want to know where it is "stored"?
23:06 Pepelargo TaucherMK, because tehre is no way to get rid of the "login" text for the fieldset legend in the login element, and I dont know how to set a template for it
23:07 Pepelargo TaucherMK, the legend is "login", and the submit button is "login" as well, very anoying
23:07 Pepelargo TaucherMK, the plugin backend section doesn't have any option to set this up
23:07 TaucherMK why is this anoying?
23:07 Pepelargo TaucherMK, just a file broser saying: "Template"
23:07 Pepelargo TaucherMK, well, the people the web site is gogin to dont like having the same text in the same place
23:08 Pepelargo TaucherMK, they dont like it from the design point of view, but this is not the point
23:08 TaucherMK i don't have a fieldset around the login form
23:08 Pepelargo TaucherMK, are you sure?
23:08 Pepelargo TaucherMK, well
23:09 Pepelargo TaucherMK, I can asure you that I didn't write anything from my side, and that the Loing form is puting <legend>Login</legend>
23:10 Pepelargo and two lines after, <input....type="submit"...value="Login"../> again
23:10 Pepelargo so you see a box called LOGIN, and then USER: PASSWORD: and another button saying "LOGIN"
23:10 Pepelargo I just want to get rid of the LEGEND value
23:11 TaucherMK *dough* i thought you mean the backend login...
23:11 Pepelargo TaucherMK, no no, the frontend one, and I am talking the "login" form element
23:11 Pepelargo TaucherMK, I said that from the backend I dont have any option to configure this
23:12 TaucherMK I'm sorry for that, you could check TS for a configuration option
23:12 Pepelargo TaucherMK, np, typo script...?.. mmm
23:13 TaucherMK Pepelargo: You can change anything in typo3 with TypoScript ;-) (nearly)
23:13 Pepelargo TaucherMK, looking at the constant editor, no "login" text option found in GLOBAL
23:14 TaucherMK Pepelargo: I would have wondered if it is in a constant...
23:14 Pepelargo sorry in CONTENT, no GLOBAL
23:15 TaucherMK i really mean TypoScript, the thing you write normally in the setup field to configure your site
23:15 Pepelargo TaucherMK, well, so if no infomration aouthere about this compnent (I am sick and tired trying to locate it), and no constant, how am I going to know what to write in TS?
23:16 TaucherMK Pepelargo: You could check the corresponding Documentations, search google for it or search the TypoScript Object Browser for it...
23:17 Pepelargo I am looking at the Objecto Browser right now, I can't locate the input form element
23:18 TaucherMK Pepelargo: I don't have a login form here, so you need to search on your own
23:19 TaucherMK Pepelargo: Try the search form for legend, login, things like that
23:19 TaucherMK or just look at the documentations
23:19 Pepelargo ok, I located it, at least I know where is its template
23:20 TaucherMK there is no template...
23:20 TaucherMK Pepelargo: You can set anything in typoscript...
23:21 TaucherMK Pepelargo: The Login form included...
23:21 Pepelargo [templateFile] = EXT:felogin/template.html # Template File
23:21 TaucherMK oh >.<
23:21 TaucherMK than it is in typo3conf/ext/tx_felogin/template.html >.<
23:22 Pepelargo yes, that one
23:22 Pepelargo I said the in build login form eelement
23:22 TaucherMK (i shouldn't explain things i actually don't see in front of me...)
23:23 Pepelargo Xd
23:23 Pepelargo Well you are right
23:23 Pepelargo I can see the template here, and the <legend> field
23:23 dinsdale07 Pepelargo, are you looking for the backend or frontend login?
23:23 Pepelargo dinsdale07, frontend login
23:23 Pepelargo the "login form" element that is in built typo3
23:24 dinsdale07 which version are you on Pepelargo
23:24 Pepelargo dinsdale07, by the way, you here too? XD
23:24 dinsdale07 always :-)
23:24 Pepelargo dinsdale07, 4.2.1
23:26 TaucherMK Pepelargo: When it's built in you find it in the global ext folder (if you are searching for the template file)
23:26 Pepelargo TaucherMK, yeah I found it, and I can see the <legend> field in the template
23:27 TaucherMK Pepelargo: Let me guess, there is just a placeholder for the translation...
23:27 Pepelargo TaucherMK, exactly,
23:27 Pepelargo Where is that text set????
23:27 TaucherMK in locallang
23:27 dinsdale07 in the locallang.
23:27 Pepelargo I cant0 find any definition of it in the Object Browser
23:27 TaucherMK but you shouldn't overwrite it there
23:27 Pepelargo But what if I didnt want legend???
23:28 TaucherMK Pepelargo: Than you copy the template (e.g. in fileadmin)
23:28 Pepelargo I just want USer:----- Password--- BUTTON[login], no legend
23:28 TaucherMK delete the legend
23:28 TaucherMK and set the ts option you searched earlier to this file
23:28 Pepelargo mmmmm, I understand now....
23:28 dinsdale07 plugin.tx_felogin_pi1._LOCAL_LANG {
23:28 dinsdale07 fr.login = allez!
23:29 TaucherMK yeah, that would be the option to overwrite if you just want to change the value ;-)
23:29 dinsdale07 if you write this in your typoscript setup (and close the bracket) you can translate it or change text.
23:29 dinsdale07 to get all values possible just read the locallang.xml in the ext folder.
23:30 Pepelargo done
23:30 Pepelargo Finally I copied the template to fileadmin, I deleted the <legend> field, and told to the plugin the alternative template
23:30 TaucherMK Pepelargo: Don't forget to clear the cache ;-)
23:31 Pepelargo wow everyday I realiza how ignorant in typo3 I AM...
23:31 TaucherMK Pepelargo: Typo3 isn't huge
23:31 TaucherMK Pepelargo: It's giant!
23:31 dinsdale07 welcome to a never ending cycle :-)
23:32 Pepelargo TaucherMK, XD the problem I see is that typo3 is just a edit box, a window for TYPOSCRIPT...
23:32 Pepelargo so the CMS is bassically that, a few pre-made elements, and the rest a window for typoscript
23:32 Pepelargo XD
23:32 TaucherMK Pepelargo: Actually i wouldn't call Typo3 a CMS, it's more a CMS Framework and thats why it is the best
23:33 Pepelargo yes, good definition
23:33 dinsdale07 I find typoscript is also a great idea which I haven't seen in another CMS.
23:34 Pepelargo dinsdale07, yeah, ... we ended in typo3 just for the security
23:35 Pepelargo but we areaally were looking for a cms
23:36 Pepelargo sincerely, we won't do anything in typo3 again...to work in this way we will stick on cakephp, php and other frameworks we have been using for years..but sometimes we jus tneed a quick CMS to do fast en easy jobs..
23:37 dinsdale07 Pepelargo, what kind of website are you doing?
23:38 Pepelargo dinsdale07, just a typical company website
23:38 Pepelargo company, contact us, products, etc..
23:39 Pepelargo but this is the first thing I do in typo3, we just wanted to try a nother CMS and go faster instead of doing everything from scratck using cakephp
23:39 Pepelargo but we didnt kknow typo3 was so huge
23:39 dinsdale07 You can't learn typo3 in just one project.
23:39 Pepelargo dinsdale07, yeah, but not the TS
23:39 Pepelargo dinsdale07, learning TS is just like learning a new script
23:39 dinsdale07 I've been learning typo3 since 2 years and it probably took me 2 or 3 websites to see the advantages of it's structure.
23:40 TaucherMK Pepelargo: When you are used to typo3 you can do anything with it in a fast way, believe me
23:40 HardPhuck agreed
23:40 dinsdale07 It's certainly complex but what I like with typo3 is that it scores well across the board compared to solutions which are good for just one thing.
23:41 TaucherMK but when you just try to learn it on your own with try and error you will throw it away...
23:41 Pepelargo TaucherMK, but for example I find faster, easier and more powerfull the way I have to control my templates in CakePHP than with Temnpla Voila, ..
23:41 TaucherMK Pepelargo: Just buy a good book and get friends with it
23:42 TaucherMK Pepelargo: I don't know CakePHP, but normally Typo3 is more flexibile first of all
23:42 HardPhuck Pepelargo: yes for you maybe, but you must remember that clients are usually not very computer savvy
23:42 dinsdale07 Pepelargo, Templavoila has it's limitations but it's very comfortable. If you want more power go with autoparser
23:42 TaucherMK Pepelargo: You don't need to change any PHP Code if you want to change some basic output
23:42 Pepelargo Well, may be I have to give more time to typo3
23:43 Pepelargo I dont know, but honestly, this first experience is being a little bit annoygin
23:43 Pepelargo (my personal opinion)
23:43 HardPhuck been there
23:43 HardPhuck we all have
23:44 HardPhuck it's up to you to cross that line into fast web production :)
23:44 Pepelargo I want to finish this project asap, and rest for a while, and then I want to start my own project slowly and without preassure to investigate more typo ans see its advantages
23:45 Pepelargo HardPhuck, I will
23:45 HardPhuck anyways, bed time 4 me ... night guys
23:45 Pepelargo night
23:48 dinsdale07 Pepelargo, did you get your felogin working?
23:49 Pepelargo dinsdale07, yeah, it is working right now
23:49 Pepelargo dinsdale07, I used another template
23:49 dinsdale07 felogin is great - only one flaw I found with it. You can't display the forgot password form and the login form on the same page.
23:49 Pepelargo dinsdale07, I am testing my web with FF and IE at the same time
23:49 Pepelargo dinsdale07, that's right

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