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02:32 mathbr Hi. Is there anyone who knows about the whereabouts of the 2nd alpha of 4.3?
02:34 mathbr Number-5: TYPO4 4.3 alpha 2?
04:51 jsfan hello everyone :)
08:14 kraftb good morning !
08:20 drindt someone can please tell me in which table are the template records be stored?
09:05 ndee good morning. Anyone had this phenomenen before: I'm using tt_news and added a news. The title is "This is the title" but when I look in the list view, there is no title.
09:06 drindt if someone is interested in "typo3 goes cloud computing" so check out this document https://visetics.com-typo3-webserver-ebs-i686.s3.amazonaws.com/README and let me know your opinon.
09:15 _pedda_ hi all
09:16 mangan hi pedda
09:31 smeringe hi all
09:35 _pedda_ hi smeringe
09:35 smeringe hi _pedda_
09:50 LionRock how I can reset variable in typoscript? In parent page I have ts for some menus but on child page I want to change ts but I think one variable inherits data from parent page. How I can reset this variable ? Is it possible ?
09:53 maholtz|WORK @LionRock: variable >
09:53 maholtz|WORK and btw: morning all:)
10:01 LionRock maholtz|WORK goshhhh I have already tried that but I have tried like variable = > :) Thanks! ;)
10:03 _pedda_ hallo maholtz|WORK
10:03 maholtz|WORK hi pedda
10:03 maholtz|WORK what is "region 1400"
10:04 maholtz|WORK how is freenode financed?
10:05 _pedda_ region 1400 ?
10:06 maholtz|WORK yep, i got an notice from freenode, that they have to reboot some servers in region "1400"
10:08 sperber maholtz|WORK: http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml
10:11 maholtz|WORK @thx
11:22 dec__ when creating a multi language site, is it possible to exclude certain pages in certain translations?
11:22 dec__ so that the page tree looks a bit different for a particular translation
11:22 sperber yes - kasper did that in one his podkasts
11:22 sperber one of his*
11:22 dec__ where can i find it?
11:23 sperber sec
11:24 sperber http://castor.t3o.punkt.de/files/podkast_julestue4-localization.m4v
11:24 dec__ cheers
11:24 sperber http://castor.t3o.punkt.de/files/podkast_julestue3-build-website.m4v and that one is for building that page
11:24 dec__ ty
11:24 dec__ m4v =?
11:25 sperber mpg4 afaik
11:25 sperber so a mplayer like vlc shouldn't have any problems with it
11:30 dec__ sweet
12:02 ndee is it possible to hide some icons in the extended view in the backend for an editor?
12:05 drindt !seen just2be
13:23 nkuttler is there no recent documentation that explains workspaces in detail for non-techies? everything i find has outdated screenshots and is too confusing imo.
13:30 nkuttler ah, i think i'll make my own. is it that uncommon that sites don't use the review process at all? most of my users are allowed to publish themselves..
13:31 maholtz|WORK you could start one in the wiki?
13:31 maholtz|WORK imho the most important thing is not to use the default "draft"
13:31 nkuttler yeah, if i make one i'll publish it
13:31 maholtz|WORK you cannot select f.e. filemounts
13:32 maholtz|WORK well, if you make on in the wiki it is published at once and others (perhaps me) could add stuff too...
13:32 nkuttler maholtz|WORK: i wouldn't bother with technical details, i'm only looking for training material
13:32 maholtz|WORK would be fine i think
13:32 nkuttler but on the wiki that could be added of course
13:34 Phlogi can I configure typo3 itself to not output any php warnings in frontend? Or is the only way to use a php.ini setting?
13:35 dec__ check install tool display errors
13:54 Sentinel39 Hello! I just got a small questions related to the "tip-a-friend" extension. How can I change the linktext? Right now it says "Click here to tip a friend about this page!" but I want to change it to something different...how do I do that? (Also, the placement of the link is a bit weird..it's in bold and has an extra blank line between itself and the preciding menu element. Can I do something so that the link gets displayed directly below the other conte
14:32 Phlogi can I configure typo3 itself to not output any php warnings in frontend? Or is the only way to use a php.ini setting?
14:32 Phlogi dec__: ah ok
14:34 Phlogi dec__: can't find anything related
14:36 sperber Phlogi: Backend -> Install -> All Configuration -> look for "display errors"
14:37 sperber (or [displayErrors] )
14:57 m0oman moo.
14:58 m0oman does anybody know if it is possible to have a multiline value with parantheses inside?
14:59 m0oman the normal way to do a multiline text would be TEXT.value (
14:59 m0oman multiple line content here
14:59 m0oman )
14:59 maholtz|WORK so, you are stefan?
14:59 m0oman yep. :p
15:00 m0oman sorry for being the impatient git i am. just trying all the resources i can find for more info on this. i wonder that it doesn't seem to be a more common problem. :o
15:02 maholtz|WORK i thought about answering - but i have only an dirty workaround: use constant sth = ) and then in setup {$sth} instead )
15:12 Rickard According to tsref, config.baseURL only "writes the <base> tag in the header of the document". Is this all its used for?
15:13 Rickard Also, is this needed for realurl to work properly?
15:17 Rickard The reason I'm asking is that I'm doing this:
15:17 Rickard page.config.disableAllHeaderCode = 1
15:17 nkuttler Rickard: i prefer absRefPrefix
15:17 Rickard So I guess it won't have any effect anyway.
15:19 Rickard So absRefPrefix would do the same, but server-side instead of in the browser (base tag)?
15:20 nkuttler Rickard: the two do completely different things, but it's done server-side, yes. it's also not supported 100%. i think there are some blog posts etc about it
15:21 Rickard Hmm, ok.
15:21 Rickard I just tried out realurl for the first time and I'm having some issues. I thought maybe baseURL was the culprit (or rather, me not using it).
15:21 Rickard I was getting strange links from realurl.
15:22 Rickard site.com/pageA/ ok, but when i visited that site, I got site.com/pageA/pageA and similar strange URLs.
15:23 Rickard Unrelated, but as I was searching for articles on how to setup realurl, I found some by Dmitry Dulepov, but the link was broken: http://dmitry-dulepov.com/article/realurl_made_easy_part_1.html
15:23 nkuttler Rickard: hm, that looks like a baseurl issue
15:24 Rickard I guess I'm not the only one with problems :D
15:24 nkuttler Rickard: the extension docs are a good start, for more complex setups there usually are some blog or forum posts
15:24 Rickard Ok, thanks. I'll do some more digging around.
15:24 nkuttler although it's not _that_ hard to understand how realurl does
15:24 nkuttler does work :)
15:25 Rickard True.
15:25 Rickard All the examples I find are littered with tt_news stuff though. And I don't use tt_news.
15:25 nkuttler basically, you need to add rules for every extension. well, for most of them
15:25 Rickard Yeah, I guess I will.
15:26 Rickard And I have maybe 15 extensions that I've written myself :)
15:26 Rickard Oh well, I guess I'll just do them one by one once I get the rest of realurl to work.
15:27 drindt i need some javascript popup in the backend whats appearing after chaning a dropdown menu where i can read something about for implementing this in my extension?
15:27 nkuttler baseurl is a quick way to make it work and if you disable the headers you can just add it to your template. personally, i don't like baseurl. breaks in my dev/production environment, stupid bots don't know it etc
15:28 Rickard I'd rather avoid it as well, but as you said, absRefPrefix isn't properly supported
15:29 nkuttler Rickard: well, i simply add an ext template that adds baseurl if an extension really needs it
15:29 Rickard Ok
15:29 Rickard Thanks. I'll see what I come up with.
15:37 Rickard Setting absRefPrefix solved the problem, it seems.
15:47 m0oman maholtz|WORK: ah, so you mean setting all the "fragments" of the code i want as constants in the constants and then assembling them in the setup?
16:21 maholtz|WORK @m0oman: would be the best way, but i meant only put ( in an constants;)
16:23 m0oman hm, ok. but of course it's getting a bit more complicated here as i'm filling parts of the multiline.value with variables set in the constants.
16:23 m0oman it's basically a tracking code that gets different ids/variables filled in via extension templates in different parts of the site.
16:54 m0oman i think i might suffer from a completely different issue actually. :o
16:58 maholtz|WORK you could use one line or put something in a wrap around
17:05 m0oman maholtz|WORK: i posted a followup on the mailinglist displaying the actual problem more indepth.
17:06 Rickard Question. If I create a frontend plugin in the kickstarter, will it by default be a USER_INT object?
17:18 w00t0r Rickard, I dont think so
17:18 Rickard Hmm, ok. Then how do I make it one?
17:28 Rickard Nevermind, I found the checkbox in kickstarter.
17:29 Rickard Only problem now is that even though my object is a USER_INT object, its output seems to be cached.
17:35 m0oman the USER-USER_INT behaviours has given me tons of headaches already. and still i haven't really found any helpful documentation on it. :-S
17:36 Rickard If I understand things correctly, USER_INT means that the output from the plugin isn't cached, but that all the other static parts of the page are. This doesn't seem to be the case in reality though :)
17:37 Rickard I'm trying to avoid no_cache which I've used in all my extensions so far.
17:42 m0oman yeah, it's far from ideal if you are running a large site.
17:48 Rickard On the other hand, we don't want ugly chashes in the URLs.
17:48 m0oman you can configure cooluri around that a bit. ;)
17:49 Rickard I've never tried cooluri. Is it good?
17:52 m0oman i switched from realurl to cooluri because realurl was giving me nightmare after nightmare. and cooluri ist really nice to set up with an xml-config file. but it's still a rather young extension, but those instances of typo3 i haven't switched away from typo3 completely i switched to cooluri.
17:52 Rickard Ok
17:52 Rickard When you've switched away from typo3, to what have you switched?
17:56 m0oman not sure if that's wanted/appropriate here as there are quite some religious-cms fights going on, but those i switched i switched to drupal.
17:56 Rickard Ok, just curious.
18:22 remi-de Hi, I'm trying to change my Template Setup. How can I insert a Carriage Return within a TEXT value?
18:25 remi-de or better a "newline" within a TEXT value?
18:26 remi-de It's a newbie question, right?
18:27 ckoehler !help
18:27 ckoehler $help
18:27 ckoehler where's the bot?
18:27 maholtz|WORK he is not available
18:27 ckoehler where is he?
18:27 maholtz|WORK @remi-de: yourvalue = TEXT
18:27 maholtz|WORK yourvalue.value (
18:27 maholtz|WORK a
18:27 maholtz|WORK b
18:27 maholtz|WORK )
18:28 remi-de maholtz|WORK: ok, I will try it
18:28 maholtz|WORK @ckoehler: afaik he is only listening, you have to ask ries if you want to maintain it
18:28 ries ckoehler: The bot is logging only..
18:28 ckoehler ah okay
18:29 ckoehler thought it'd have typo3 docs and stuff
18:29 ries We had at some point problems with the bot pointing to teh right URL's
18:29 ckoehler what bot is it?
18:29 ries the guys over TYPO3.org kept changing the URL's over and over again and often the system don't work really well because of this
18:29 ries ckoehler: the bot is based on eggdrop
18:30 ckoehler k thanks
18:31 maholtz|WORK perhaps we could register an domain typo3_static_url.org and redirect there to the right direction - they could get an simple form where they can say: no change url A to B etc;)
18:32 maholtz|WORK some years ago at the validator.w3.org there was the tipp available: cool uris doesnt change
18:33 remi-de maholtz|WORK: Hmm, I'm trying to insert the following:
18:33 remi-de maholtz|WORK: page.headerData.820 = TEXT
18:33 remi-de maholtz|WORK: page.headerData.820.value {
18:33 remi-de <script type="text/javascript">
18:33 remi-de //<![CDATA[
18:33 remi-de var djConfig = {"isDebug":"","preventBackButtonFix":false,"parseOnLoad":true};
18:33 remi-de //]]>
18:33 remi-de </script>
18:33 remi-de }
18:33 remi-de maholtz|WORK: after that the Object Browser gives the warning "Object Name String, "var" was not preceeded by any operator, =<>({ "
18:33 maholtz|WORK well, who told you to take {} ?
18:33 maholtz|WORK as you are an newbie: take care of typos
18:34 maholtz|WORK 90% of not working typoscript are typos
18:34 remi-de maholtz|WORK: ok, "(" instead of "{"
18:34 maholtz|WORK yep and not in a new line
18:34 maholtz|WORK value (
18:34 ries maholtz|WORK: Well.. in that timne we only had RealURL's.... and you can ask Dmitry, they DO CHANGE!!!!
18:34 maholtz|WORK yes, i know - randomly
18:35 maholtz|WORK i hate it
18:35 maholtz|WORK i made an meta search for my browser
18:35 maholtz|WORK with some redirects to typicall typoscript stuff
18:36 maholtz|WORK but only to wiki - because the urls there stay almost the same
18:36 maholtz|WORK but we can be happy - the want to reorganize typo3.org again
18:36 maholtz|WORK so, every link will change again
18:36 maholtz|WORK yeah
18:36 remi-de maholtz|WORK: works very well. thank you for your help!
18:36 maholtz|WORK np
18:57 Phlogi http://support.typo3.org/snippets/ omg ;)
18:58 Phlogi typo3 seems not to be aware of spam protection
18:58 maholtz|WORK great
18:59 Phlogi grr... they really should fix their site anyway ^^^^
19:01 Phlogi hmm but isn't it required to have a login for posting pastes?
19:01 Phlogi I mean for snippets
19:13 maholtz|WORK afaik not
19:13 maholtz|WORK but i do not really know, why not
19:14 maholtz|WORK have to go now, bye
19:53 drindt where in the source distribution i can find the table sql structure from tt_content? iam searching here a while but i cant really find it...
20:01 nkuttler drindt: tried a find -name *sql?
20:02 drindt nkuttler: i do so already but in the files i havent found a CREATE TABLE * tt_content;
20:05 nkuttler drindt: grep for CREATE TABLE tt_content. is your sql syntax valid?
22:13 rickard How do I setup realurl to redirect my old index.php?id=xxx URLs to the new pretty ones? I don't want multiple URLs pointing at the same content.
22:45 dinsdale07 can you use config.xhtml_cleaning and the extension sourceopt at the same time?
23:39 Denyerec Anyone here play Left for Dead?
23:39 Denyerec OT I know, but I'm lookin for a couple of bodies :)

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